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Those bible projections are from Lucifer........NOT God!

 
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I recall when I was coming out of a man-made cultish organization and pondering on asking Jesus for help with it. I prayed and begged and pleaded Jesus to help me understand this so I could follow him and do what he wanted me to do. I took my car to the most wonderful look-out point on top of a hill, overlooking a valley with a river winding below between the hills. I prayed more fervently and suddenly I felt a presence outside my car. It was blasting wind, but I got out of the car. An entire ‘situation’ where I experienced a communication with a man named Jesus happened. He stood beside me and said, Don’t follow me….follow your own path, not mine. You were always supposed to follow your own path.
 Quoting: gypsy heart

Thank you for sharing that experience with me 'gypsy'.......it brought tears to my eyes!

Oh how I wish ALL could have such an experience as THAT.....and yet, I somehow KNOW, that when the time is right: THEY WILL! :)

For everything has its OWN "sequence of events".......and each must cross their own bridge as it unfolds! :)

Thanks again.....you really touched my heart this day!

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So according to you obe, when I die, will Ireincarnate? There is no "Heaven"?

I would prefer not to come back to earth, or the physical realm for that matter!
 Quoting: Evan03

The original definition of "heaven" was "sky"......so yes there is a heaven......but not necessarily like most Christians would think of it!

....And who says you need to die anyways Evan? You???

"The Sins of our Fathers seem to still be upon the heads of their children"........for did our Fathers not teach us to die? :(
 Quoting: ObeWayneKenobe


Then I will just have to create heaven for myself for when I die. I really don't want to reincarnate. I want to rest as just my soul.
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And you, oh wicked, true concubines of satan, even you wicked vipers who do shake your fists at Heaven and spit at The King, The Holy One... Come and hiss at My chosen, the redeemed from among men, the first fruits to My glory in Christ, and you shall be brought down to hell!... Which is death and the grave. For from the dust had I formed you, you broken vessels of great dishonor, and to the dust shall you return!
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Woe to any who mix poison with the Word, for it is holy as I am holy! These shall suffer in the heat of the Lord’s wrath!

Woe to the serpent, the dragon, who does continually entice those who are void of the Spirit, with cleverly crafted tales...lies within lies, sold to the ignorant as truth. For even satan will paint himself as an evil, detestable creature, so none will recognize him when he comes to lead many away from the Truth, which is absolute. Neither is there any shadow of turning, whatsoever, in My Word, nor can even one tittle be broken.

And so satan goes out to corrupt the hearts of many in preparation for the harvest, the gathering up of those who live in the Son of Salvation, so when the wide sweeping blow is carried out, he may stop many from believing the truth of who I am, lest the whole of creation turn back to the Lord their God. For there shall be many taken in that day, lowly of the lowly who stand upright before God, and every single child of innocence shall be gone from the earth. And the fathers and mothers shall mourn, and great shall be the wailing of them. For one shall be taken and the other left. Thus is the inheritance of the hard-hearted in that day. The earth shall be left in darkness, its light taken!
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So according to you obe, when I die, will Ireincarnate? There is no "Heaven"?

I would prefer not to come back to earth, or the physical realm for that matter!
 Quoting: Evan03

The original definition of "heaven" was "sky"......so yes there is a heaven......but not necessarily like most Christians would think of it!

....And who says you need to die anyways Evan? You???

"The Sins of our Fathers seem to still be upon the heads of their children"........for did our Fathers not teach us to die? :(
 Quoting: ObeWayneKenobe


Then I will just have to create heaven for myself for when I die. I really don't want to reincarnate. I want to rest as just my soul.
 Quoting: Evan03

Then good luck with that my friend......:)

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And you, oh wicked, true concubines of satan, even you wicked vipers who do shake your fists at Heaven and spit at The King, The Holy One... Come and hiss at My chosen, the redeemed from among men, the first fruits to My glory in Christ, and you shall be brought down to hell!... Which is death and the grave. For from the dust had I formed you, you broken vessels of great dishonor, and to the dust shall you return!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 4528267

Nonsense.....you were NEVER dust! You are NOT that body, that you think you are!!!
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Woe to any who mix poison with the Word, for it is holy as I am holy! These shall suffer in the heat of the Lord’s wrath!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 4528267

I have news for you my friend: Our Lord DOESN'T have "wrath"!

You are being "hoodwinked"! :(

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So according to you obe, when I die, will Ireincarnate? There is no "Heaven"?

I would prefer not to come back to earth, or the physical realm for that matter!
 Quoting: Evan03

The original definition of "heaven" was "sky"......so yes there is a heaven......but not necessarily like most Christians would think of it!

....And who says you need to die anyways Evan? You???

"The Sins of our Fathers seem to still be upon the heads of their children"........for did our Fathers not teach us to die? :(
 Quoting: ObeWayneKenobe


Then I will just have to create heaven for myself for when I die. I really don't want to reincarnate. I want to rest as just my soul.
 Quoting: Evan03


the soul does not rest on the eternal journey. I don't think you are one of the fallen angel/galactic thugs incarcerated here and are the ones most truly facing judgement, and I sense you will return to the morontial worlds from whence you came, when you pass from your body. There you are given a new body not requiring a toilet and you continue your journey upwards. We have an excess of reincarnation on this planet because it is a prison ward. This time is not just judgement for the fallen ones, but also the sorting because only some folks can continue here after the stasis. many are simply going back to where they came from, and most have moved up a step or two in the ladder of these worlds they will return too. Everyone lives ON worlds dear one, heaven is simply HIGHER worlds. all spirit beings live on worlds too. between lives on worlds like earth, you live in the astral realms around earth, but still attached to it. your soul is always busy there too
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Ok, another question for you Obe, or NIP whoever wants to answer.

When we die, you say we continue our journey and spiritual growth right? Well, what about our families, and children. Do we keep in contact with them in other worlds?
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Ok, another question for you Obe, or NIP whoever wants to answer.

When we die, you say we continue our journey and spiritual growth right? Well, what about our families, and children. Do we keep in contact with them in other worlds?
 Quoting: Evan03

Evan, the first thing you must come to understand; is that in God's Kingdom there is no "Time"(or Space)......so basically, you are NEVER really separated from your loved ones!

Now the "Illusions of Separation" is a characteristic of where we are now! So to answer your question: Yes, we will always be in communication with the other Energy forms that we have come to love and cherish(and in the split-second of a thought, as well)!........:)

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Ok, another question for you Obe, or NIP whoever wants to answer.

When we die, you say we continue our journey and spiritual growth right? Well, what about our families, and children. Do we keep in contact with them in other worlds?
 Quoting: Evan03

Evan, the first thing you must come to understand; is that in God's Kingdom there is no "Time"(or Space)......so basically, you are NEVER really separated from your loved ones!

Now the "Illusions of Separation" is a characteristic of where we are now! So to answer your question: Yes, we will always be in communication with the other Energy forms that we have come to love and cherish(and in the split-second of a thought, as well)!........:)
 Quoting: ObeWayneKenobe


Good! As long as I will be able to be with/communicate with my kids, I willbe happy no matter where I go!
Life is tough, but its tougher when you're stupid. -john wayne

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And you, oh wicked, true concubines of satan, even you wicked vipers who do shake your fists at Heaven and spit at The King, The Holy One... Come and hiss at My chosen, the redeemed from among men, the first fruits to My glory in Christ, and you shall be brought down to hell!... Which is death and the grave. For from the dust had I formed you, you broken vessels of great dishonor, and to the dust shall you return!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 4528267


Woe to any who mix poison with the Word, for it is holy as I am holy! These shall suffer in the heat of the Lord’s wrath!

Woe to the serpent, the dragon, who does continually entice those who are void of the Spirit, with cleverly crafted tales...lies within lies, sold to the ignorant as truth. For even satan will paint himself as an evil, detestable creature, so none will recognize him when he comes to lead many away from the Truth, which is absolute. Neither is there any shadow of turning, whatsoever, in My Word, nor can even one tittle be broken.

And so satan goes out to corrupt the hearts of many in preparation for the harvest, the gathering up of those who live in the Son of Salvation, so when the wide sweeping blow is carried out, he may stop many from believing the truth of who I am, lest the whole of creation turn back to the Lord their God. For there shall be many taken in that day, lowly of the lowly who stand upright before God, and every single child of innocence shall be gone from the earth. And the fathers and mothers shall mourn, and great shall be the wailing of them. For one shall be taken and the other left. Thus is the inheritance of the hard-hearted in that day. The earth shall be left in darkness, its light taken!
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anybody else here remember, when you were a kid,sitting in a church pew with your best friend and both of you started chuckling uncontrollably?
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And you, oh wicked, true concubines of satan, even you wicked vipers who do shake your fists at Heaven and spit at The King, The Holy One... Come and hiss at My chosen, the redeemed from among men, the first fruits to My glory in Christ, and you shall be brought down to hell!... Which is death and the grave. For from the dust had I formed you, you broken vessels of great dishonor, and to the dust shall you return!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 4528267


Woe to any who mix poison with the Word, for it is holy as I am holy! These shall suffer in the heat of the Lord’s wrath!

Woe to the serpent, the dragon, who does continually entice those who are void of the Spirit, with cleverly crafted tales...lies within lies, sold to the ignorant as truth. For even satan will paint himself as an evil, detestable creature, so none will recognize him when he comes to lead many away from the Truth, which is absolute. Neither is there any shadow of turning, whatsoever, in My Word, nor can even one tittle be broken.

And so satan goes out to corrupt the hearts of many in preparation for the harvest, the gathering up of those who live in the Son of Salvation, so when the wide sweeping blow is carried out, he may stop many from believing the truth of who I am, lest the whole of creation turn back to the Lord their God. For there shall be many taken in that day, lowly of the lowly who stand upright before God, and every single child of innocence shall be gone from the earth. And the fathers and mothers shall mourn, and great shall be the wailing of them. For one shall be taken and the other left. Thus is the inheritance of the hard-hearted in that day. The earth shall be left in darkness, its light taken!
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anybody else here remember, when you were a kid,sitting in a church pew with your best friend and both of you started chuckling uncontrollably?
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lol......well said david! lol
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Obe, the more questions I ask you, the more I come up with.

Here it goes. Is it possible to destroy your consciousness?

Can you choose to just go lights out?
Life is tough, but its tougher when you're stupid. -john wayne

Truth is the new hate speech in our age of absurdity-Ted Nougat

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Obe, the more questions I ask you, the more I come up with.

Here it goes. Is it possible to destroy your consciousness?

Can you choose to just go lights out?
 Quoting: Evan03

Commander said: "If you can think it, IT can become!"

So I suppose anything is possible.........even unthinking yourself! :(
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Obe, what movie do you think does the best job at "waking people up"

Or is the best example of people being sheep, and what the truth really is?
Life is tough, but its tougher when you're stupid. -john wayne

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I'm betting THIS Thread will really turns my Karma stick Red!?! :(

But I had to do it..........for we can overturn Lucifer's script!!!
 Quoting: ObeWayneKenobe


My goodness, I can't believe this has gone on 40+ pages!!??

And people have faith that you are more intelligent than the Bible!

How sad:(

Get a life please and stop deceiving people!
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Obe, the more questions I ask you, the more I come up with.

Here it goes. Is it possible to destroy your consciousness?

Can you choose to just go lights out?
 Quoting: Evan03

Commander said: "If you can think it, IT can become!"

So I suppose anything is possible.........even unthinking yourself! :(
 Quoting: ObeWayneKenobe




What!?

That is Blavatsky and Crowley's doctrine!

Your just recycling old pagan New Age garbage!

And you believe the Christians are the one's being deceived!?
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Woe to any who mix poison with the Word, for it is holy as I am holy! These shall suffer in the heat of the Lord’s wrath!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 4528267

I have news for you my friend: Our Lord DOESN'T have "wrath"!

You are being "hoodwinked"! :(
 Quoting: ObeWayneKenobe


You said on the first page that you have read the Bible?

How could you MISS COMPLETELY God's wrath!!??

And if you're not basing your imaginative assumptions on the Bible, then what CREDIBLE source says God has no wrath!?

I'd be real careful, sending God's sheep down the wrong path is gonna lead to a whole mess of problems for you.
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Obe, what movie do you think does the best job at "waking people up"

Or is the best example of people being sheep, and what the truth really is?
 Quoting: Evan03

There was a wonderful little movie that Commander said Patrick Swayze received his awakening in, during the making of it; called "City of Joy"!

How about you? Any movies that really move you to think differently?

Most people are unaware that Lucifer made an agreement with God, that he would "wear a sign"(have a tell)......so many of the movies that we think of as fiction, are really offering up Truth! The tabloids are another of our Adversaries ways of fulfilling that agreement......although he makes sure that the presentations are SO ridiculous, that no one could even remotely consider them as Truth!

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And people have faith that you are more intelligent than the Bible!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1146742

Is God not MORE intelligent than the bible? Then who are you to say whether I am "One with God" or not? Shouldn't we let God make THAT Judgment???

Get a life please and stop deceiving people!
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How is it that you hope to silence me? Are you so insecure in your own beliefs that you cannot afford another his opinions???

Shame on you, telling me to get a Life..........did your God make YOUR life so much better than mine, that all you can do is brag about it?

Where is your LOVE my friend? :(

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Obe, the more questions I ask you, the more I come up with.

Here it goes. Is it possible to destroy your consciousness?

Can you choose to just go lights out?
 Quoting: Evan03

Commander said: "If you can think it, IT can become!"

So I suppose anything is possible.........even unthinking yourself! :(
 Quoting: ObeWayneKenobe

What!?

That is Blavatsky and Crowley's doctrine!

Your just recycling old pagan New Age garbage!

And you believe the Christians are the one's being deceived!?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1146742

Obviously you have NEVER "thought" anything into being.......so you WOULDN'T have any real experience to draw from on this subject!?! :(
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I recall when I was coming out of a man-made cultish organization and pondering on asking Jesus for help with it. I prayed and begged and pleaded Jesus to help me understand this so I could follow him and do what he wanted me to do. I took my car to the most wonderful look-out point on top of a hill, overlooking a valley with a river winding below between the hills. I prayed more fervently and suddenly I felt a presence outside my car. It was blasting wind, but I got out of the car. An entire ‘situation’ where I experienced a communication with a man named Jesus happened. He stood beside me and said, Don’t follow me….follow your own path, not mine. You were always supposed to follow your own path.
 Quoting: gypsy heart

Thank you for sharing that experience with me 'gypsy'.......it brought tears to my eyes!

Oh how I wish ALL could have such an experience as THAT.....and yet, I somehow KNOW, that when the time is right: THEY WILL! :)

For everything has its OWN "sequence of events".......and each must cross their own bridge as it unfolds! :)

Thanks again.....you really touched my heart this day!
 Quoting: ObeWayneKenobe


ME TOO THANKYOU. ONLY EACH one can DESIGN their path and its time to drive your own life consciously. The following is in fact a very dangerous situation, AND GYPSY do understand he really is back here.
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Obe, the more questions I ask you, the more I come up with.

Here it goes. Is it possible to destroy your consciousness?

Can you choose to just go lights out?
 Quoting: Evan03

Commander said: "If you can think it, IT can become!"

So I suppose anything is possible.........even unthinking yourself! :(
 Quoting: ObeWayneKenobe

What!?

That is Blavatsky and Crowley's doctrine!

Your just recycling old pagan New Age garbage!

And you believe the Christians are the one's being deceived!?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1146742

Obviously you have NEVER "thought" anything into being.......so you WOULDN'T have any real experience to draw from on this subject!?! :(
 Quoting: ObeWayneKenobe


Very Good reply OBE gets my laugh and tears of the day. :laughing floor:
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Woe to any who mix poison with the Word, for it is holy as I am holy! These shall suffer in the heat of the Lord’s wrath!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 4528267

I have news for you my friend: Our Lord DOESN'T have "wrath"!

You are being "hoodwinked"! :(
 Quoting: ObeWayneKenobe


You said on the first page that you have read the Bible?

How could you MISS COMPLETELY God's wrath!!??

And if you're not basing your imaginative assumptions on the Bible, then what CREDIBLE source says God has no wrath!?

I'd be real careful, sending God's sheep down the wrong path is gonna lead to a whole mess of problems for you.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1146742


YOU HAVE NO CONCEPT OF the FORCE THAT IS GOD!!!!!! Individuals have WRATH, god does not. God's "wrath" on this world dear one, will be NATURE.

HOW DARE YOU ONES OF SUCH IGNORANCE MAKE SUCH BLIND STATEMENTS. A THINKER CANNOT MAKE SUCH STATEMENTS, ONLY A THUG OR A SHEEP. Which are you? Ok, I better run along before I blow my proverbial top.
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You said on the first page that you have read the Bible?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1146742

Several times!

How could you MISS COMPLETELY God's wrath!!??
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1146742

Exactly! The bible is full of examples of "God's wrath"........to bad you buy into it! :(

And if you're not basing your imaginative assumptions on the Bible, then what CREDIBLE source says God has no wrath!?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1146742

Well I guess you had to be there, but MY God is full of nothing but LOVE.....NO Wrath! Perhaps YOUR God is vengeful......but NOT mine!

I'd be real careful, sending God's sheep down the wrong path is gonna lead to a whole mess of problems for you.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1146742

God needs no "sheep".......God does however reward intelligent thinking people who honor the Truth! So I have a very good working relationship with my God, making it so your FEAR tactics don't work with me!!!

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...

Commander said: "If you can think it, IT can become!"

So I suppose anything is possible.........even unthinking yourself! :(
 Quoting: ObeWayneKenobe

What!?

That is Blavatsky and Crowley's doctrine!

Your just recycling old pagan New Age garbage!

And you believe the Christians are the one's being deceived!?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1146742

Obviously you have NEVER "thought" anything into being.......so you WOULDN'T have any real experience to draw from on this subject!?! :(
 Quoting: ObeWayneKenobe


Very Good reply OBE gets my laugh and tears of the day. laughing floor
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Thanks for dropping by NiP! hf
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Obviously you have NEVER "thought" anything into being.......so you WOULDN'T have any real experience to draw from on this subject!?! :(
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'Thought' something into being!?

So you're smarter than every single scientist as well?

You can 'think' the cure for cancer or aids?

Or 'think' everyone has food and solve world hunger?

'Think' homes for the homeless.

'Think' protection for the abused.


Yeah, it ALL works, doesn't it.

No PROOF whatsoever. No CREDIBLE source.


ALL your theories are ripped straight from Blavatsky and Crowley who got theirs from LUCIFER as THEY admit.


You NEVER even answered a SIMPLE question - if you are NOT basing your imaginative assumptions on the Bible, then WHAT credible source do you have!?

But you won't answer that as you DON'T have a credible source.
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Obviously you have NEVER "thought" anything into being.......so you WOULDN'T have any real experience to draw from on this subject!?! :(
 Quoting: ObeWayneKenobe




'Thought' something into being!?

So you're smarter than every single scientist as well?

You can 'think' the cure for cancer or aids?

Or 'think' everyone has food and solve world hunger?

'Think' homes for the homeless.

'Think' protection for the abused.


Yeah, it ALL works, doesn't it.

No PROOF whatsoever. No CREDIBLE source.


ALL your theories are ripped straight from Blavatsky and Crowley who got theirs from LUCIFER as THEY admit.


You NEVER even answered a SIMPLE question - if you are NOT basing your imaginative assumptions on the Bible, then WHAT credible source do you have!?

But you won't answer that as you DON'T have a credible source.
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before your accuse OBE of Blanatsky/Crowley, maybe you better ask him if he read them? I have not myself. We both got some of our information from God,(aton/christ michael), jesus and others, both directly and from such as the Phoenix Journals. OBE is an excellent teacher. Until you are such yourself, how about bugging out of his thread?

OBE and I have both been in the presence of ATON though in different circumstances. OBE is also from the highest heaven Paradise, and I know this because of the nature of his Out OF Body experience he had years ago and OMG OBE< I just figured the OBE . boy, was I a little slow on that one!

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