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Those bible projections are from Lucifer........NOT God!

 
ObeWayneKenobe (OP)

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i am intrigued with truly ancient plants still growing on earth today. ferns, cycads, ginkos. my affinity with plants is far more spiritual than many might understand.....
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That is simply GREAT david.........I am so pleased to hear that you are a "plant whisperer"!(my perception)

Plants affect me in the same way: I find them so amazing!!!

Nothing like a walk in a botanical garden! :)


Except panning gold on the green river, of course.....lol ;)

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I think in the spirit world, time does not exist as it does here and now.
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Actually, when you think about it: Once you get off of a planet, then you have no more "daytime and nighttime sequencing"(since the Sun doesn't rise of set, any longer).

However, even in the "Spirit world" there is "Sequence of events! :)
 Quoting: ObeWayneKenobe


Sequence of events yes, but "Time" is of less importance in the spirit realm wouldn't you say?
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all universes have an agreed upon time that the hierarchy uses. this time is metric in nature but is not determined by rotation.
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I think in the spirit world, time does not exist as it does here and now.
 Quoting: Evan03

Actually, when you think about it: Once you get off of a planet, then you have no more "daytime and nighttime sequencing"(since the Sun doesn't rise of set, any longer).

However, even in the "Spirit world" there is "Sequence of events! :)
 Quoting: ObeWayneKenobe


Sequence of events yes, but "Time" is of less importance in the spirit realm wouldn't you say?
 Quoting: Evan03


all universes have an agreed upon time that the hierarchy uses. this time is metric in nature but is not determined by rotation.
 Quoting: Nobody in Particular


NIP,according to you, how is the best way to learn our lifes purpose?

I believe we all have a reason for being here, I want to know mine.

thx
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Many names hath God given him, names of mystery, secret and terrible.

God called him Satan the Adversary, because matter opposeth spirit, and time accuseth even the saints of the Lord.

And the Destroyer, for his arm breaketh and grindeth to pieces; wherefore the fear and the dread of him are upon all flesh.

And the Avenger, for he is the anger of God; his breath shall burn up all the souls of the wicked.

And the Sifter, for he straineth all things through his sieve, dividing the husk from the grain; discovering the thoughts of the heart; proving and purifying the spirit of man.

And the Deceiver, for he maketh the false appear true, and concealeth the real under the mask of illusion.

And the Tempter, for he setteth snares before the feet of the elect: he beguileth with vain shows, and seduceth with enchantments.

Blessed are they who withstand his subtlety: they shall be called the Sons of God, and shall enter in at the beautiful gates. For Satan is the doorkeeper of the temple of the King: he standeth in Solomon's porch; he holdeth the keys of the sanctuary; That no man may enter therein save the Anointed, having the arcanum of Hermes.

For Satan is the Spirit of the Fear of the Lord, which is the beginning of wisdom. He is the devourer of the unwise and the evil: they shall all be meat and drink to him. Whatsoever he devoureth, that shall never more return into being.

Fear him, for after he hath killed, he hath power to cast into hell. But he is the servant of the Sons of God, and of the children of light. They shall go before him, and he shall follow the steps of the wise.

Stand in awe of him and sin not: speak his name with trembling; and beseech God daily to deliver thee.

For Satan is the magistrate of the justice of God: he beareth the balance and the sword, to execute judgment and vengeance upon all who come short of the commandments of God; to weigh their works, to measure their desire, and to number their days, for to him are committed weight and measure and number. And all things must pass under the rod and through the balance, and be fathomed by the sounding-lead.

Therefore Satan is the minister of God, Lord of the seven mansions of Hades, the angel of the manifest worlds.

And God hath put a girdle about his loins, and the name of the girdle is Death. Threefold are its coils, for threefold is the power of Death, dissolving the body, the ghost, and the soul. And that girdle is black within, but where Phoibos strikes it is silver.

None of the Gods is girt save Satan, for upon him only is the shame of generation. He hath lost his virginal estate: uncovering heavenly secrets, he hath entered into bondage.

He encompasseth with bonds and limits all things which are made: he putteth chains round about the worlds, and determineth their orbits. By him are creation and appearance; by him birth and transformation; the day of begetting and the night of death.

The glory of Satan is the shadow of the Lord: the throne of Satan is the footstool of Adonai. Twain are the armies of God: in heaven the hosts of Michael; in the abyss the legions of Satan. These are the unmanifest and the manifest; the free and the bound; the virginal and the fallen. And both are the ministers of the Father, fulfilling the word divine.
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you 3 are all the same people

I Am on to you!....
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Your powers of discernment astonish me!!! LOL
 Quoting: ObeWayneKenobe


obe, nip, evan same person
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really now? where is your power of discernment. and we live in vary different places too. so how would that be managed?
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B.S.

I See you guys in action

Dont you understand what this means??

Some know what is truly going on here
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Your powers of discernment astonish me!!! LOL
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obe, nip, evan same person
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 4528267

really now? where is your power of discernment. and we live in vary different places too. so how would that be managed?
 Quoting: Nobody in Particular

NiP, I had to ban that person......as their attacks became too personal, without providing any real substance for discussion, to their posts! :(

However, you could answer david's question, if you get back this way, if you don't mind:

"how old do you think earth is? i would also be interested in what evan and nip think.
thanx"
-- david
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like the nazi i knew you where

ban one and two come back

to expose the lies of your new age
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What is the "one lie" mixed in the 99% truth?
 Quoting: Evan03

That Jesus is God........and will save you from your sins! :(

Jesus was NEVER God, but He WAS "One with God".....big difference!

And He saves nobody.......he said "So as you sow, so shall you reap"!
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YOU ERROR.

1 John 1

The Incarnation of the Word of Life
1 That which was from the beginning, which we have heard, which we have seen with our eyes, which we have looked at and our hands have touched—this we proclaim concerning the Word of life. 2 The life appeared; we have seen it and testify to it, and we proclaim to you the eternal life, which was with the Father and has appeared to us. 3 We proclaim to you what we have seen and heard, so that you also may have fellowship with us. And our fellowship is with the Father and with his Son, Jesus Christ. 4 We write this to make our[a] joy complete.
Light and Darkness, Sin and Forgiveness
5 This is the message we have heard from him and declare to you: God is light; in him there is no darkness at all. 6 If we claim to have fellowship with him and yet walk in the darkness, we lie and do not live out the truth. 7 But if we walk in the light, as he is in the light, we have fellowship with one another, and the blood of Jesus, his Son, purifies us from all sin.
8 If we claim to be without sin, we deceive ourselves and the truth is not in us. 9 If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just and will forgive us our sins and purify us from all unrighteousness. 10 If we claim we have not sinned, we make him out to be a liar and his word is not in us.
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B.S.

I See you guys in action

Dont you understand what this means??

Some know what is truly going on here
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 7247775

Yes, and some(like yourself) only think they know! LOL
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like the nazi i knew you where

ban one and two come back

to expose the lies of your new age
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Expose away, your "know it all-ness"! LOL
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What is the "one lie" mixed in the 99% truth?
 Quoting: Evan03

That Jesus is God........and will save you from your sins! :(

Jesus was NEVER God, but He WAS "One with God".....big difference!

And He saves nobody.......he said "So as you sow, so shall you reap"!
 Quoting: ObeWayneKenobe



YOU ERROR.

1 John 1

The Incarnation of the Word of Life
1 That which was from the beginning, which we have heard, which we have seen with our eyes, which we have looked at and our hands have touched—this we proclaim concerning the Word of life. 2 The life appeared; we have seen it and testify to it, and we proclaim to you the eternal life, which was with the Father and has appeared to us. 3 We proclaim to you what we have seen and heard, so that you also may have fellowship with us. And our fellowship is with the Father and with his Son, Jesus Christ. 4 We write this to make our[a] joy complete.
Light and Darkness, Sin and Forgiveness
5 This is the message we have heard from him and declare to you: God is light; in him there is no darkness at all. 6 If we claim to have fellowship with him and yet walk in the darkness, we lie and do not live out the truth. 7 But if we walk in the light, as he is in the light, we have fellowship with one another, and the blood of Jesus, his Son, purifies us from all sin.
8 If we claim to be without sin, we deceive ourselves and the truth is not in us. 9 If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just and will forgive us our sins and purify us from all unrighteousness. 10 If we claim we have not sinned, we make him out to be a liar and his word is not in us.
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No, "YOU error", in buying into a book that the Pharisees concocted for you! :(
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What is the "one lie" mixed in the 99% truth?
 Quoting: Evan03

That Jesus is God........and will save you from your sins! :(

Jesus was NEVER God, but He WAS "One with God".....big difference!

And He saves nobody.......he said "So as you sow, so shall you reap"!
 Quoting: ObeWayneKenobe


Jesus: "I and the Father are one." ( John 10:30
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What is the "one lie" mixed in the 99% truth?
 Quoting: Evan03

That Jesus is God........and will save you from your sins! :(

Jesus was NEVER God, but He WAS "One with God".....big difference!

And He saves nobody.......he said "So as you sow, so shall you reap"!
 Quoting: ObeWayneKenobe



YOU ERROR.

1 John 1

The Incarnation of the Word of Life
1 That which was from the beginning, which we have heard, which we have seen with our eyes, which we have looked at and our hands have touched—this we proclaim concerning the Word of life. 2 The life appeared; we have seen it and testify to it, and we proclaim to you the eternal life, which was with the Father and has appeared to us. 3 We proclaim to you what we have seen and heard, so that you also may have fellowship with us. And our fellowship is with the Father and with his Son, Jesus Christ. 4 We write this to make our[a] joy complete.
Light and Darkness, Sin and Forgiveness
5 This is the message we have heard from him and declare to you: God is light; in him there is no darkness at all. 6 If we claim to have fellowship with him and yet walk in the darkness, we lie and do not live out the truth. 7 But if we walk in the light, as he is in the light, we have fellowship with one another, and the blood of Jesus, his Son, purifies us from all sin.
8 If we claim to be without sin, we deceive ourselves and the truth is not in us. 9 If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just and will forgive us our sins and purify us from all unrighteousness. 10 If we claim we have not sinned, we make him out to be a liar and his word is not in us.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 967845

No, "YOU error", in buying into a book that the Pharisees concocted for you! :(
 Quoting: ObeWayneKenobe


The original Bible in Hebrew and Greek is the true word of God. The pharisees were responsible for the translations and they mis translated the true word of God on purpose and this purpose was to mislead.

If you want the truth, use Strong's concordance and read the Bible.
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The pharisees by the way did not belief Jesus was God either.
The pharisees killed Jesus.
They are the seed of satan and yet here you are doing their work, which means that you are satanseed as well.

By your fruits will you be known.
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"I and the Father are one." ( John 10:30). "I am the way, and the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me. If you know me, you will know ...
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OP you do not know.
You pretend that you do.
You are Nakash.
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I'm betting THIS Thread will really turns my Karma stick Red!?! :(

But I had to do it..........for we can overturn Lucifer's script!!!
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Obe...Lucifer would LOVE for you to believe the bible is a lie...but don't let him fool you.
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What is the "one lie" mixed in the 99% truth?
 Quoting: Evan03

That Jesus is God........and will save you from your sins! :(

Jesus was NEVER God, but He WAS "One with God".....big difference!

And He saves nobody.......he said "So as you sow, so shall you reap"!
 Quoting: ObeWayneKenobe


Jesus: "I and the Father are one." ( John 10:30
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One in purpose.......NOT "one and the same person"!
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Obe...Lucifer would LOVE for you to believe the bible is a lie...but don't let him fool you.
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If you are so sure that I am being deceived by Lucifer, then answer me this question:

How is it, that the bible is the #1 most printed book on the face of this planet.........when everyone knows that all the Major Publishing Houses are owned & run by the Adversary? lol

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What is the "one lie" mixed in the 99% truth?
 Quoting: Evan03

That Jesus is God........and will save you from your sins! :(

Jesus was NEVER God, but He WAS "One with God".....big difference!

And He saves nobody.......he said "So as you sow, so shall you reap"!
 Quoting: ObeWayneKenobe


Jesus: "I and the Father are one." ( John 10:30
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 6985998

One in purpose.......NOT "one and the same person"!
 Quoting: ObeWayneKenobe

That is your personal opinion.
You have to look at the bible in context to everything else it states.

Jesus is God.

John 14:7-10 [7] If you really knew me, you would know my Father as well. From now on, you do know him and have seen him." [8] Philip said, "Lord, show us the Father and that will be enough for us." [9] Jesus answered: "Don't you know me, Philip, even after I have been among you such a long time? Anyone who has seen me has seen the Father. How can you say, `Show us the Father'? [10] Don't you believe that I am in the Father, and that the Father is in me? The words I say to you are not just my own. Rather, it is the Father, living in me, who is doing his work.

John 10:30 "I and the Father are one."

John 14:11 Believe me when I say that I am in the Father and the Father is in me; or at least believe on the evidence of the miracles themselves.

John 10:37-38 [37] Do not believe me unless I do what my Father does. [38] But if I do it, even though you do not believe me, believe the miracles, that you may know and understand that the Father is in me, and I in the Father."

Matthew 27:43 He trusts in God. Let God rescue him now if he wants him, for he said, 'I am the Son of God.'"

John 17:11 I will remain in the world no longer, but they are still in the world, and I am coming to you. Holy Father, protect them by the power of your name--the name you gave me--so that they may be one as we are one.


"When Jesus said 'I and the Father are one' didn't He just mean they are of one accord, they are merely like-minded?"

Considering the overall content of the Bible, this cannot be:

The Greek word he used, heis, is the word for the number one. It is a reference to the Shema, the core tenet of Judaism, "Sh'ma, Yisrael, Adonai Eloheynu Adonai echad," which, using Christian terminology is, "Hear, O Israel, Jehovah is our God. Jehovah is one."

John 10:31-33 [31] Again the jewish people picked up stones to stone him, [32] but Jesus said to them, "I have shown you many great miracles from the Father. For which of these do you stone me?" [33] "We are not stoning you for any of these," replied the jewish people, "but for blasphemy, because you, a mere man, claim to be God."

John 17:5 And now, Father, glorify me in your presence with the glory I had with you before the world began.

John 17:10 [Speaking to the Father] All I have is yours, and all you have is mine. And glory has come to me through them.
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NIP,according to you, how is the best way to learn our lifes purpose?

I believe we all have a reason for being here, I want to know mine.

thx
 Quoting: Evan03

Evan, while waiting for NiP's response, may I offer a thought on this subject?:

You may find this a bit of a surprise, but eventually you are going to find that it is YOU who tells God what your purpose is.....not the other way around!

Yes, your Heavenly Father does know what our CONTRACT with Him is(the one we made with Him before coming to this place).........and yes, He can remind us from time to time, if we stray from that agreement!

WE just need to ask Him is all.....and then be patient enough to allow for God's pure timing! :)

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That Jesus is God........and will save you from your sins! :(

Jesus was NEVER God, but He WAS "One with God".....big difference!

And He saves nobody.......he said "So as you sow, so shall you reap"!
 Quoting: ObeWayneKenobe


Jesus: "I and the Father are one." ( John 10:30
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 6985998

One in purpose.......NOT "one and the same person"!
 Quoting: ObeWayneKenobe

That is your personal opinion.
You have to look at the bible in context to everything else it states.

Jesus is God.

John 14:7-10 [7] If you really knew me, you would know my Father as well. From now on, you do know him and have seen him." [8] Philip said, "Lord, show us the Father and that will be enough for us." [9] Jesus answered: "Don't you know me, Philip, even after I have been among you such a long time? Anyone who has seen me has seen the Father. How can you say, `Show us the Father'? [10] Don't you believe that I am in the Father, and that the Father is in me? The words I say to you are not just my own. Rather, it is the Father, living in me, who is doing his work.

John 10:30 "I and the Father are one."

John 14:11 Believe me when I say that I am in the Father and the Father is in me; or at least believe on the evidence of the miracles themselves.

John 10:37-38 [37] Do not believe me unless I do what my Father does. [38] But if I do it, even though you do not believe me, believe the miracles, that you may know and understand that the Father is in me, and I in the Father."

Matthew 27:43 He trusts in God. Let God rescue him now if he wants him, for he said, 'I am the Son of God.'"

John 17:11 I will remain in the world no longer, but they are still in the world, and I am coming to you. Holy Father, protect them by the power of your name--the name you gave me--so that they may be one as we are one.


"When Jesus said 'I and the Father are one' didn't He just mean they are of one accord, they are merely like-minded?"

Considering the overall content of the Bible, this cannot be:


The Greek word he used, heis, is the word for the number one. It is a reference to the Shema, the core tenet of Judaism, "Sh'ma, Yisrael, Adonai Eloheynu Adonai echad," which, using Christian terminology is, "Hear, O Israel, Jehovah is our God. Jehovah is one."

John 10:31-33 [31] Again the jewish people picked up stones to stone him, [32] but Jesus said to them, "I have shown you many great miracles from the Father. For which of these do you stone me?" [33] "We are not stoning you for any of these," replied the jewish people, "but for blasphemy, because you, a mere man, claim to be God."

John 17:5 And now, Father, glorify me in your presence with the glory I had with you before the world began.

John 17:10 [Speaking to the Father] All I have is yours, and all you have is mine. And glory has come to me through them.
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That Jesus is God........and will save you from your sins! :(

Jesus was NEVER God, but He WAS "One with God".....big difference!

And He saves nobody.......he said "So as you sow, so shall you reap"!
 Quoting: ObeWayneKenobe


Jesus: "I and the Father are one." ( John 10:30
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 6985998

One in purpose.......NOT "one and the same person"!
 Quoting: ObeWayneKenobe

That is your personal opinion.
You have to look at the bible in context to everything else it states.

Jesus is God.

John 14:7-10 [7] If you really knew me, you would know my Father as well. From now on, you do know him and have seen him." [8] Philip said, "Lord, show us the Father and that will be enough for us." [9] Jesus answered: "Don't you know me, Philip, even after I have been among you such a long time? Anyone who has seen me has seen the Father. How can you say, `Show us the Father'? [10] Don't you believe that I am in the Father, and that the Father is in me? The words I say to you are not just my own. Rather, it is the Father, living in me, who is doing his work.

John 10:30 "I and the Father are one."

John 14:11 Believe me when I say that I am in the Father and the Father is in me; or at least believe on the evidence of the miracles themselves.

John 10:37-38 [37] Do not believe me unless I do what my Father does. [38] But if I do it, even though you do not believe me, believe the miracles, that you may know and understand that the Father is in me, and I in the Father."

Matthew 27:43 He trusts in God. Let God rescue him now if he wants him, for he said, 'I am the Son of God.'"

John 17:11 I will remain in the world no longer, but they are still in the world, and I am coming to you. Holy Father, protect them by the power of your name--the name you gave me--so that they may be one as we are one.


"When Jesus said 'I and the Father are one' didn't He just mean they are of one accord, they are merely like-minded?"

Considering the overall content of the Bible, this cannot be:

The Greek word he used, heis, is the word for the number one. It is a reference to the Shema, the core tenet of Judaism, "Sh'ma, Yisrael, Adonai Eloheynu Adonai echad," which, using Christian terminology is, "Hear, O Israel, Jehovah is our God. Jehovah is one."

John 10:31-33 [31] Again the jewish people picked up stones to stone him, [32] but Jesus said to them, "I have shown you many great miracles from the Father. For which of these do you stone me?" [33] "We are not stoning you for any of these," replied the jewish people, "but for blasphemy, because you, a mere man, claim to be God."

John 17:5 And now, Father, glorify me in your presence with the glory I had with you before the world began.

John 17:10 [Speaking to the Father] All I have is yours, and all you have is mine. And glory has come to me through them.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 6985998

Sorry, it has nothing to do with my "personal opinion".......it has everything to do with what the Master Himself taught me! :)

However, you are certainly entitled to your own "personal opinion"! hf
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i am intrigued with truly ancient plants still growing on earth today. ferns, cycads, ginkos. my affinity with plants is far more spiritual than many might understand.....
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That is simply GREAT david.........I am so pleased to hear that you are a "plant whisperer"!(my perception)

Plants affect me in the same way: I find them so amazing!!!

Nothing like a walk in a botanical garden! :)


Except panning gold on the green river, of course.....lol ;)
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John1:1
In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

Jesus is the word.
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Jesus: "I and the Father are one." ( John 10:30
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One in purpose.......NOT "one and the same person"!
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That is your personal opinion.
You have to look at the bible in context to everything else it states.

Jesus is God.

John 14:7-10 [7] If you really knew me, you would know my Father as well. From now on, you do know him and have seen him." [8] Philip said, "Lord, show us the Father and that will be enough for us." [9] Jesus answered: "Don't you know me, Philip, even after I have been among you such a long time? Anyone who has seen me has seen the Father. How can you say, `Show us the Father'? [10] Don't you believe that I am in the Father, and that the Father is in me? The words I say to you are not just my own. Rather, it is the Father, living in me, who is doing his work.

John 10:30 "I and the Father are one."

John 14:11 Believe me when I say that I am in the Father and the Father is in me; or at least believe on the evidence of the miracles themselves.

John 10:37-38 [37] Do not believe me unless I do what my Father does. [38] But if I do it, even though you do not believe me, believe the miracles, that you may know and understand that the Father is in me, and I in the Father."

Matthew 27:43 He trusts in God. Let God rescue him now if he wants him, for he said, 'I am the Son of God.'"

John 17:11 I will remain in the world no longer, but they are still in the world, and I am coming to you. Holy Father, protect them by the power of your name--the name you gave me--so that they may be one as we are one.


"When Jesus said 'I and the Father are one' didn't He just mean they are of one accord, they are merely like-minded?"

Considering the overall content of the Bible, this cannot be:

The Greek word he used, heis, is the word for the number one. It is a reference to the Shema, the core tenet of Judaism, "Sh'ma, Yisrael, Adonai Eloheynu Adonai echad," which, using Christian terminology is, "Hear, O Israel, Jehovah is our God. Jehovah is one."

John 10:31-33 [31] Again the jewish people picked up stones to stone him, [32] but Jesus said to them, "I have shown you many great miracles from the Father. For which of these do you stone me?" [33] "We are not stoning you for any of these," replied the jewish people, "but for blasphemy, because you, a mere man, claim to be God."

John 17:5 And now, Father, glorify me in your presence with the glory I had with you before the world began.

John 17:10 [Speaking to the Father] All I have is yours, and all you have is mine. And glory has come to me through them.
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Sorry, it has nothing to do with my "personal opinion".......it has everything to do with what the Master Himself taught me! :)

However, you are certainly entitled to your own "personal opinion"! hf
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You are Nakash and will teach what your father wants you to teach, but what you say is not Biblical.
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John 1:1-5 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. He was with God in the beginning. Through him all things were made; without him nothing was made that has been made. In him was life, and that life was the light of men. The light shines in the darkness, but the darkness has not understood it.
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Isn't it obvious that you do not understand it.
You and your master are in darkness.
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The pharisees by the way did not belief Jesus was God either.
The pharisees killed Jesus.
They are the seed of satan and yet here you are doing their work, which means that you are satanseed as well.

By your fruits will you be known.
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Your logic is flawed:

A banana is yellow, a lemon is yellow, therefore a banana is a lemon! lol

Just because the Pharisees knew He wasn't God, doesn't mean I am doing the will of the Pharisees.........after all, it was your Pharisees that told you He was God(in that book of yours)!..........:(
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but what you say is not Biblical.
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Well Duh.......did you not read the Thread title?
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John 8:58
Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I am.
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Jesus is the word.
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No He's NOT!(even if you think your bible says He is)!!!
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but what you say is not Biblical.
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Well Duh.......did you not read the Thread title?
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You have failed to provide any proof except personal opinion.

You do not even know who Lucifer was?

Tip, he is not satan.
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Jesus is the word.
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No He's NOT!(even if you think your bible says He is)!!!
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Again you only provide your personal opinion and when you say that your master told you, you make what is known as "a false appeal to authority.

You do not even know your master.

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