Those bible projections are from Lucifer........NOT God!

I am going to head to lunch in a few. I will come back to this thread when I get back.

Well of course you disagree with me, your programming doesn't allow for anything else but......:(

The Bible is God's Word (KJV). One can see that clearly in each letter of every word. In the parallelism of the sentences. In the simple words used mostly with two or less syllables that require no dictionary other than the Bible itself to explain.

There are so many reasons that show why only God Himself could possibly have been responsible for that Bible the way it is written. But this fella describes it better that I why the KJV is the word of God.

I am not programed at this issue. Have studied the Bible for decades by myself and compared to other inspired Scriptures through the world. I may be wrong, sometimes - but I have done all I could to deprogram my belief system.

This guy said he graduated from "bible college"! lol(now why do I find that so darn humorous?)

He thinks that because they used red ink in the place of black, that it must have surely been where Jesus was talking!!! Bet you all feel the same way? lol

Last Edited by ObeWayneKenobe on 08/17/2011 03:42 PM

Why bother? Why even get mad at the government for not doing anything?

If jesus don't save us, the aliens will...

That's your answer. The "savior" business REMOVES PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY.

Rather than realizing there should be human action and response, people just sit around saying, "Oh well, humans aren't going to do anything. Neither am I. I'll just wait for Jesus."

You say that, but it just isn't true! All of us are "programmed" in one way or another.........even I confess to being "programmed": I just hope it is by God is all! lol

What you just posted is just religious opinions, assumptions, lies and deceptions that are beyond your mind-set comprehension...

you are obviously unaware that you were born with Wisdom.
Wisdom from Our Creator.
Wisdom that's not in a book.
and you didn't read my post...
so you go on my: Don't interact with List.
Have a nice Life.

Last Edited by theSearchingJones on 08/17/2011 03:47 PM

Well I read it, and I it!

Armageddon is Lucifer's plan:

It was NEVER God's plan to come down here and commit "Mass Murder" by burning up half the population of the planet for being wicked!

And who among us, has NOT been wicked at one time or another in our lives? lol

Look, there are 3 stages of validation of any theory you can go through:


belief becoming

knowing becoming

being/doing.


Then ones´ belief is deprogramed and alife. Applying our beliefs is their proof they are real.

See now you are running out of witty comments and are simply blowing smoke. If you want to be taken seriously, and there is doubt you want that, then start disputing specific tenets not trying to attack the messenger.

The fella in that video gave a decent history of bibles in general and why he came to the conclusion that the KJV is the correct translation of the scriptures and is God's word.

All you come up with is stupid remarks that don't mean anything nor have any sense behind them but your own subjective beliefs.

I did read your post you dolt. A man's word is his bond! Have you ever heard that? It doesn't mean one word, it means what he says you fool. God's Word is the Bible. Is that too big for you to grasp?

God is love, what is that? Some New Age crap again? I read it and looked past that silly putty.

Say what? Since when do "beliefs" define what is real and what isn't?

I offered you 2 examples where the bible out-right lied to you........and you "agreed to disagree with me" simply because you chose to believe what you wanted to believe.......does that make YOU right? No, it simply means you have been misinformed by your research! You have drawn incorrect conclusions!!!

No, I disagreed simle because I lived my beliefs during the years and have my own practical referencies to what is and what is not possible to believe about Jesus living in this world.

If you want to believe in this fellas words(I mean after all he did graduate from Bible school), then by all means be my guest! But you are hiding behind his video, because you feel that "he says it better"! I do NOT agree!!!

BTW, I did not say that - not even mean.

LOL......No, just the simple plain Truth of it!!!

Then my apologies for misunderstanding you.....

You think I say it better then is that it? Or you think that his reasoning is off? Where do you think he goes off in his reasoning specifically?

If you don't believe that the bible is God's word just because then that's OK too. It's your right to believe what you want to but don't expect others to buy it so easily.

Edit: and that "he did go to bible college" quip is supposed to mean what? Didn't you listen to the road he travelled in his learning and that he even went back to confront that college professor. You are being very shallow here.

Last Edited by Forge on 08/17/2011 04:21 PM

Uh... that's First John 4:8!

1 John 4:8

King James Version (KJV)

8He that loveth not knoweth not God; for God is love.

So you believe that He "whips" the wicked?

Back to the basics:

If ye keep my commandments, ye shall abide in my love; even as I have kept my Father's commandments, and abide in his love. These things have I spoken unto you, that my joy might remain in you, and that your joy might be full. This is my commandment, That ye love one another, as I have loved you. John 15:10-12

Love Jesus preached was about keeping comandments.

To the German, AC:

Something that has always put me on edge about lies in the Bible is Paul. Christ had 3+ years to give us every instruction possible to be better humans, but instead of recoring everything He said, we get the same stories with sometimes contradictory information told to us, in some cases, 4 times.

Then, Paul, the adversary to the WAY, comes along, and during his campaign of eradication, he is suddenly converted; a story told to us not once, but 3 times in the same book of Acts and each time it is told, some minute detail contradicts a previous telling of the event.

From there, doctrines of women not being allowed to speak, having to have their head covered, a heirarchy of male-dominated deacons, etc. begins to emerge in his letters. It's almost like sowing dissent or disharmony from within.

If all of these things were so important that it takes up the lion's share of the New Testament, why didn't Christ bring it up?

To Obe,

Am enjoying the thread. I don't believe in re-incarnation, but I like some of your thoughts here. One question, is your belief system from self-realization by observation?

To Evan,

Nice to see you still asking questions. You and I have had a few conversations on 'christians' threads. I had the wrong impression of you initially and I apologize. I find you to be a very respectful poster. I was the one explaining to you how some of us were angry at having been lied to about the Bible, even in the Bible itself.

Sure the wicked are expelled from the presence of God. Do you think they do it willingly?

Oh my God, you are actually going to make me go back and listen to that video? LOL Can't you just shoot me in the head now or something???


Why would I want to debate the video, when he's not here to defend himself? :(

Last Edited by ObeWayneKenobe on 08/17/2011 04:39 PM

Yes, I do think THAT.......darkness ALWAYS flees from the Light! imho

... I have much more to say to you, more than you can now bear. John 16:12

BTW, if you feel Paul contradict Jesus - choose Jesus´ before Paul´s teachings.

people still sell themselves short.. If Lucifer done anything it was show another path it is anyones choice what he/she does. Lucifer is just a Light of GOD doing exactly as he was suppose to do and well the rest is your fumbled history....

Yes, much of it IS from personal experience........but I also give credit to the Phoenix Journals for inspiring me to look deeper! :)