There are certain people who claim they are saints or masters that have the ability to travel to other dimensions via meditation. The ultimate destination is the realm of pure spirit where there is no matter. The idea being the more matter there is the more hellish the dimension is. These people have no superpowers except for being able to travel dimensions while living in the human body. Also known as dieing while living. They also say that the figures of religion like Jesus were the teachers of this type of meditation that have reached the realm of pure spirit and allowing other to do the same. What is your take on this?