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| Hitndahedfred User ID: 826012 08/20/2011 01:52 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I have been a long believer in the "Expanding Earth" theory. Somehow tectonic plates moving just doesn't sound right. ALL the continents were connected at one time. Hell even when my daughter was 6 she said that the earth looks like it "grew" and that is why everything fits together so well. Nice observation MO Oh yea ,,, 5 stars too Last Edited by Hitndahedfred on 08/20/2011 02:18 PM Each time a person stands for an ideal, or acts to improve the lot of others, or strikes out against injustice, he or she sends forth a tiny ripple of hope. And crossing each other from a million different centers of energy and daring, those ripples build a current that can sweep down the mightiest walls of oppression and resistance. Few are willing to embrace the disapproval of their fellows, the censure of their colleagues, the wrath of their society. Moral courage is a rarer commodity than bravery in battle or great intelligence. Yet it is the one essential vital quality for those who seek to change a world that yields most painfully to change. [Robert F. Kennedy] [link to www.stricklychopped.com] [link to www.ghi-engrs.com] |
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Mister Obvious (OP)Forum Administrator 08/20/2011 02:07 PM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Nice observation MO Quoting: HitndahedfredThank you very much. This thread from yesterday: Thread: Russian Reindeer Herder Discovers Baby Mammoth in Arctic Re-piqued my interest in this topic, and I then made this thread: Thread: What caused the flash-freeze of Mammoths in the Arctic? In which someone posted an exceedingly interesting link, that I feel goes along with this expanding earth theory, and perhaps how the tropical vegetation ended up "falling" so far from where it seemingly originated: Though the ground is frozen for 1,900 feet down from the surface at Prudhoe Bay, everywhere the oil companies drilled around this area they discovered an ancient tropical forest. It was in frozen state, not in petrified state. It is between 1,100 and 1,700 feet down. There are palm trees, pine trees, and tropical foliage in great profusion. In fact, they found them lapped all over each other, just as though they had fallen in that position. Quoting: [link to www.creationscience.com] How were trees buried under a thousand feet of hard, frozen ground? We are faced with the same series of questions we first saw with the frozen mammoths. Again, it seems there was a sudden and dramatic freezing accompanied by rapid burial in muck, now frozen solid. Perhaps this happened when the continent split apart and "slid". But what I'm very interested in is the next location where this is gearing up to happen. I do believe it involves the Ring of Fire. My question to all the minds out there is... Will it be splitting, sinking, or rising? If you look at this part of the continental shelves... [link to maps.google.com] The outline is severe. The depth is very pronounced. I believe that the underwater continents north of this pronounced area... will be the ones to rise. This encompasses north Russia, utmost North America, and the area surrounding Greenland... you can see the color differentiation on the map in the areas I'm talking about. [link to maps.google.com] Last Edited by Mister Obvious on 08/20/2011 02:10 PM |
Mister Obvious (OP)Forum Administrator 08/20/2011 02:08 PM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | So you are of the mind that the circumference of the earth is increasing? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1510376Or are you just seeing the continual cycles while the size stays the same? I believe that the circumferential growth is inconsequential compared to the vast changes in continental positioning that comes of these 'climaxes'. |
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| Hitndahedfred User ID: 826012 08/20/2011 02:23 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Ok ,,, Now my turn ,,, Does the subduction of the moving plates return back to the core to be remelted? Then re expelled as new landmass? OR Does the planet just continue to keep "growing" until a point is reached where there cannot be any more mass formed and we end up like Mars? This is what I kinda think is going on. Opinion? Each time a person stands for an ideal, or acts to improve the lot of others, or strikes out against injustice, he or she sends forth a tiny ripple of hope. And crossing each other from a million different centers of energy and daring, those ripples build a current that can sweep down the mightiest walls of oppression and resistance. Few are willing to embrace the disapproval of their fellows, the censure of their colleagues, the wrath of their society. Moral courage is a rarer commodity than bravery in battle or great intelligence. Yet it is the one essential vital quality for those who seek to change a world that yields most painfully to change. [Robert F. Kennedy] [link to www.stricklychopped.com] [link to www.ghi-engrs.com] |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1489656 08/20/2011 02:24 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I to am a believer in the expanding earth theory, the continents just seems to knit together to neatly for there to be another explanation. Quoting: MuckRakerNice post MO, thanks. yeah I agree. Once I learned about the expanding earth theory it explained a lot in my mind And yes nice thread MO, you're such an intelligent lady. |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1501171 08/20/2011 03:05 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I have been a long believer in the "Expanding Earth" theory. Quoting: HitndahedfredSomehow tectonic plates moving just doesn't sound right. ALL the continents were connected at one time. Hell even when my daughter was 6 she said that the earth looks like it "grew" and that is why everything fits together so well. Nice observation MO Oh yea ,,, 5 stars too ![]() |
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| Hitndahedfred User ID: 1425564 08/20/2011 08:36 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Perhaps this happened when the continent split apart and "slid". I wonder if my body will be found thousands of years from now, with half an onion ring in my mouth, buried beneath unspeakable depths of earth ![]() ==================================================== HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA,,, I' m sure there WILL be some found in some very compromising situations. ![]() Each time a person stands for an ideal, or acts to improve the lot of others, or strikes out against injustice, he or she sends forth a tiny ripple of hope. And crossing each other from a million different centers of energy and daring, those ripples build a current that can sweep down the mightiest walls of oppression and resistance. Few are willing to embrace the disapproval of their fellows, the censure of their colleagues, the wrath of their society. Moral courage is a rarer commodity than bravery in battle or great intelligence. Yet it is the one essential vital quality for those who seek to change a world that yields most painfully to change. [Robert F. Kennedy] [link to www.stricklychopped.com] [link to www.ghi-engrs.com] |
| NotNewton User ID: 1686842 09/22/2011 01:02 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The "fit" in the Atlantic is the easy part for Earth Expansion Theory. It is the Pacific that causes the greater difficulty. There have been about 24 small earth recreations, and it is worthwhile analyzing what they do and don't agree on. I don't know anywhere this has been done and thus did so in Article 9 at [link to eearthk.com] That article shows the inconsistencies and also shows how a past "Impact" was a cause and left its clearly visible footprints (unrecognized, before). Article 2 shows how anyone can physically recreate the Atlantic fit on a moveable globe showing continental movement can be Vertical and not Horizontal. Article 8 shows that the Moon orbits far different than we all were taught, and the teaching never gets corrected. So for those who want to laugh about Flatearthers (that likely never really were significant), they can wonder why they are so ill educated about our own continually visible Moon Not Newton |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 756504 09/22/2011 01:09 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Well since solar radiation in the form of subatomic particles, hard hard gamma rays, meteor and comet debris are always hitting the Earth and the Earth's age is in the order of billions of years well yeah it has grown some I would think. Although I don't believe the expanding earth theory per se. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 17499334 10/28/2012 07:20 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | When one looks at this picture... Quoting: Mister Obvious [link to www.cliffshade.com] It's not hard to see that the shape of the ridge matches the outline of the continents on either side. Could this be proof of the Expanding Earth theory? It's as simple as looking at a detailed map... [link to maps.google.com] The question is, where is it going to crack next? We know that one of the most active earthquake regions is the entire Ring of Fire. [link to www.letow.com] While in comparison, the opposite side - the Atlantic - is relatively inactive with regards to earthquakes. Perhaps Atlantis didn't sink. Perhaps it was merely torn apart. So what will happen? Will the Ring of Fire crack and rise? Or will it be sinking, for something to emerge on the opposite side? I believe that the earth is slowly cracking and expanding over time, but there is a climax... And that climax is the point in time when landmasses are torn apart (or sink), in order for others to rise. Thoughts? Post Glacial Rebound Effect ![]() |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 26363198 10/28/2012 07:39 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I thought I read somewhere that the Earth is expanding at the mid-oceanic ridges. That's where the youngest crust is. The usual argument is 'how does the Earth grow?' Maybe the Earth receives energy and converts it to mass. Just because we don't understand the process... Dinosaurs where too big for present gravity. Smaller Earth, less gravity. Everything grows big. Makes sense. Everything grows. |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 26454072 10/28/2012 07:45 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I thought I read somewhere that the Earth is expanding at the mid-oceanic ridges. That's where the youngest crust is. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26363198 The usual argument is 'how does the Earth grow?' Maybe the Earth receives energy and converts it to mass. Just because we don't understand the process... Dinosaurs where too big for present gravity. Smaller Earth, less gravity. Everything grows big. Makes sense. Everything grows. Earth is just expanding from the mass it had at the beginning, a bigger planet means less density not necessarily more mass ! The dinosaurs were so big because there was a much higher concentration of oxygen in the atmosphere back then ! |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 26102938 10/28/2012 07:50 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | new rock is formed at the ridges then the sheet of new rock spreads out from there when it gets to the continents, it sinks down because it is heavier than continental rock when it sinks far enough, it melts and circulates back to the ridges to be spurted out and solidify into new rock again please read chapter 19 of "Earth's Dynamic Systems": [link to earthds.info] |
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| Johnny Be Good User ID: 9548134 10/28/2012 07:59 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It seems perfectly obvious to me that the earth has grown from a period where the continental land masses were once the entire crust - to the point now, where new ocean floor has been extruded from the tectonic plate margins to create an earth three times the size, over the last 250 million yrs (since that is the age of the oldest seafloor). The only possible explanation for all this new seafloor that fits with conventional physics is continental drift, subduction and a constant earth diameter..................so that is what they opted for by default. Ie instead of looking at the evidence, accepting that the earth has grown and looked for some new physics - they have stuck with conventional physics and then decided what that allows to happen - problem is; they have no viable mechanism for subduction of tectonic plates. At first they stated it was ridge push, caused by magma currents pushing the plates apart - but that just doesn't fly and they have abandoned it - now they are saying that it is sinking slabs that 'pull' the rest of the plate along as it somehow sinks into a denser medium - which is equally ludicrous. Big question: - where has all the (massive amounts) of extra mass come from? Perfectly simple when you understand that the earth is a living organism, and that the job of organic life is to capture, process and transmute cosmic energies - that are condensed into the physical at the earths core, probably in periodic spasms of 'earth changes' Length of days is in her right hand; and in her left hand riches and honour. Her ways are ways of pleasantness, and all her paths are peace. |
| Goofy for God Do everything with love User ID: 16845676 10/28/2012 08:05 AM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Bad color for reading but this is a good article wrote a while back However, far more important than being a source of magma, minerals, H²O, other gases, and heat, the midocean ridges (LUVs) that almost completely encircle the planet beneath the oceans are a gigantic "geosuture" that allows the planet to grow and expand in the same way that human cranial sutures permit a child's skull to grow to adulthood. The midocean ridges are, in effect, the "enabling mechanism" that permits controlled expansion of the planet. [link to www.expanding-earth.org] Matthew 5:44 But I tell you, love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you, |
| Goofy for God Do everything with love User ID: 16845676 10/28/2012 08:10 AM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This is better, great post MO needed a break But what was the significance of the connection between earthquakes and oceanic trenches and ridges? The recognition of such a connection helped confirm the seafloor-spreading hypothesis by pin-pointing the zones where Hess had predicted oceanic crust is being generated (along the ridges) and the zones where oceanic lithosphere sinks back into the mantle (beneath the trenches). [link to pubs.usgs.gov] Matthew 5:44 But I tell you, love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you, |
| the mighty Atom User ID: 26380645 10/28/2012 08:12 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Me too! I think the Earth is kind of a living Organism who grows like every Organism, the Food is Solar Particles! Same like Humans we are not growing wild but in special Zones. There will be no "New Crack"! Problem is that every Organism is getting smaller when they get older, like old People! Last Edited by the mighty Atom on 10/28/2012 08:13 AM G.Y.!B.E. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 25613345 10/28/2012 08:29 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I guess that would depend on where Atlantis was located. I like Emmet Sweeney's theory locating it in the Azores, which fits nicely Plato's account (beyond the Pillars of Hercules, = the Straits of Gibraltar) and the Azores sits right on a major fault line. I think this fault caused the great Lisbon quake in 1755, though I'd have to check that... If you look on google earth you will also see a large circular structure on the seabed south of San Miguel, possibly an impact crater (or a huge caldera maybe?) which would possibly add credence to Otto Muck's comet/meteorite theory. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 2178540 10/28/2012 08:44 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This is better, great post MO Quoting: Goofy for God needed a break But what was the significance of the connection between earthquakes and oceanic trenches and ridges? The recognition of such a connection helped confirm the seafloor-spreading hypothesis by pin-pointing the zones where Hess had predicted oceanic crust is being generated (along the ridges) and the zones where oceanic lithosphere sinks back into the mantle (beneath the trenches). [link to pubs.usgs.gov] Amazing video of the Mid- Atlantic Ridge, [link to www.youtube.com] Irish research has led to the discovery of a volcanic landscape along the Mid- Atlantic Ridge, a vast underwater mountain range that extends almost the entire length of the ocean. The discovery team has named it Moytirra, after the great battle between the Fir Bolg and the Tuatha Dé Danann in Irish mythology. The volcanic smoking vents and three-storey "chimneys" will feature in a National Geographic television programme to be broadcast next Sunday. The underwater world also harbours unique marine life of creatures adapted to darkness and crushing water pressures, as scientists aboard the Irish research vessel Celtic Explorer revealed. "Discovering a new volcanic landscape 3km below was a thrill," said expedition leader Andy Wheeler, a geologist at University College Cork whose team used a ROV [remotely operated underwater vehicle], to explore the ocean depths. [link to www.irishexaminer.com] ![]() |
| --Voltaic-- User ID: 1405546 10/28/2012 09:03 AM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | We know that one of the most active earthquake regions is the entire Ring of Fire. Quoting: Mister Obvious [link to www.letow.com] While in comparison, the opposite side - the Atlantic - is relatively inactive with regards to earthquakes. Perhaps both the Atlantic and Pacific release equal energy in earthquakes. One frequently and mild, the other infrequent and brutal. The East Coast could get the massive earthquake leaving the west coast saying, "Huh?" At some point the Atlantic (plus the landmasses in between) would have to catch up or store the stresses from pacific shifting. Last Edited by --Voltaic-- on 10/28/2012 09:04 AM Do your absolute best and the rest is fate. |