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Mid Atlantic Ridge - Expanding Earth - Thoughts and Theories

 
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Perhaps this happened when the continent split apart and "slid".


I wonder if my body will be found thousands of years from now, with half an onion ring in my mouth, buried beneath unspeakable depths of earth eq
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Even worse....if it happens during oral sex...

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Yeh, OP, and I believe that there is a shitload of water inside the Earth's mantle too. It's said that steam emissions from inside earth caused the formation of seas and oceans, so if the earth is still a ball of molten fire inside, then it makes sense that there is lots of water down there too.

I think that the fragile Atlantic ridge split apart during the Atlantean era because an incredible amount of steam inside the mantle caused so much pressure, that the ridge was forced open. Not only did all of this steam envelope the Earth, but quadrillion gallons of boiling water burst forth and flooded the earth -- killing all of the Atlanteans.

I can't recall exactly what ancient texts mentioned this, but they mentioned a time when the seas boiled and everything died. I believe that the boiling seas where the result of convection from inside the earth -- when the ridge split apart and Atlantis was destroyed.

In fact, these articles may be of interest to you:

Huge 'Ocean' Discovered Inside Earth

[link to www.livescience.com]

Inner Earth May Hold More Water Than the Seas

[link to news.nationalgeographic.com]
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Yeh, OP, and I believe that there is a shitload of water inside the Earth's mantle too. It's said that steam emissions from inside earth caused the formation of seas and oceans, so if the earth is still a ball of molten fire inside, then it makes sense that there is lots of water down there too.

I think that the fragile Atlantic ridge split apart during the Atlantean era because an incredible amount of steam inside the mantle caused so much pressure, that the ridge was forced open. Not only did all of this steam envelope the Earth, but quadrillion gallons of boiling water burst forth and flooded the earth -- killing all of the Atlanteans.

I can't recall exactly what ancient texts mentioned this, but they mentioned a time when the seas boiled and everything died. I believe that the boiling seas where the result of convection from inside the earth -- when the ridge split apart and Atlantis was destroyed.

In fact, these articles may be of interest to you:

Huge 'Ocean' Discovered Inside Earth

[link to www.livescience.com]

Inner Earth May Hold More Water Than the Seas

[link to news.nationalgeographic.com]
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P.S. This steam from inside earth formed the so called 'water canopy' which ancient texts document, and this water canopy fell as rain for months - possibly even years. This may have been the event which spawned the 40 days and 40 nights of rain myth.
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I thought I read somewhere that the Earth is expanding at the mid-oceanic ridges. That's where the youngest crust is.

The usual argument is 'how does the Earth grow?' Maybe the Earth receives energy and converts it to mass. Just because we don't understand the process...

Dinosaurs where too big for present gravity. Smaller Earth, less gravity. Everything grows big.

Makes sense. Everything grows.
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Agreed. rockon
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[link to www.bbc.co.uk]

are the red areas the new large land masses, and the blue areas the new oceans?
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re atlantis

maybe it wasn't blown apart, maybe it was

but the land masses and borders we are used to seeing are only a fleeting glance at planet earth

borders are bullshit lines drawn by rulers for rulers.

land masses on the other hand are land that are above sea level, i know i'm stating the obvious but we get so used to how our maps and atlas globes look and its hard to see it as being different.

sea levels have changed considerably over time

doggerland is a good example and there are many other past land bridges that are now submerged

its really interesting to look at a model of the earth without water

p.s. also believe that it is expanding and/or even contracting but the whole current teaching of plate techtonics is simply adhered to by science to placate the religious churches



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I have been a long believer in the "Expanding Earth" theory.

Somehow tectonic plates moving just doesn't sound right.

ALL the continents were connected at one time.

Hell even when my daughter was 6 she said that the earth looks like it "grew" and that is why everything fits together so well.
 Quoting: Hitndahedfred

It looke to me like you are implying earth was once completely covered by solid ground.

Seems impossible to me.
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When one looks at this picture...

[link to www.cliffshade.com]

It's not hard to see that the shape of the ridge matches the outline of the continents on either side.

Could this be proof of the Expanding Earth theory?

It's as simple as looking at a detailed map...

[link to maps.google.com]

The question is, where is it going to crack next?

We know that one of the most active earthquake regions is the entire Ring of Fire.

[link to www.letow.com]

While in comparison, the opposite side - the Atlantic - is relatively inactive with regards to earthquakes.

Perhaps Atlantis didn't sink. Perhaps it was merely torn apart.

So what will happen? Will the Ring of Fire crack and rise? Or will it be sinking, for something to emerge on the opposite side?

I believe that the earth is slowly cracking and expanding over time, but there is a climax...

And that climax is the point in time when landmasses are torn apart (or sink), in order for others to rise.






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Yeh, OP, and I believe that there is a shitload of water inside the Earth's mantle too. It's said that steam emissions from inside earth caused the formation of seas and oceans, so if the earth is still a ball of molten fire inside, then it makes sense that there is lots of water down there too.

I think that the fragile Atlantic ridge split apart during the Atlantean era because an incredible amount of steam inside the mantle caused so much pressure, that the ridge was forced open. Not only did all of this steam envelope the Earth, but quadrillion gallons of boiling water burst forth and flooded the earth -- killing all of the Atlanteans.

I can't recall exactly what ancient texts mentioned this, but they mentioned a time when the seas boiled and everything died. I believe that the boiling seas where the result of convection from inside the earth -- when the ridge split apart and Atlantis was destroyed.

In fact, these articles may be of interest to you:

Huge 'Ocean' Discovered Inside Earth

[link to www.livescience.com]

Inner Earth May Hold More Water Than the Seas

[link to news.nationalgeographic.com]
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All this doesn't add much credibility to the idea that, "in the beginning" as it goes, earth consisted of "molten rock".

Where would all that water have come from ?

The most obvious explanation seems to be it was always ther but it wasn't chemically or physically distinguishable from the "molten rock" (which of course was not molten rock either).

In other words, earth didn't start out as "molten rock". It was a diffuse mass which over time solidified and separated into matter of different densities.
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According to phony Edgar Cayce, LOL.
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I have been a long believer in the "Expanding Earth" theory.

Somehow tectonic plates moving just doesn't sound right.

ALL the continents were connected at one time.

Hell even when my daughter was 6 she said that the earth looks like it "grew" and that is why everything fits together so well.
 Quoting: Hitndahedfred

It looke to me like you are implying earth was once completely covered by solid ground.

Seems impossible to me.
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The negative of space = the positive of mass and energy.

you need to understand the the NATURAL state of the Universe is expansion

that's why all other galaxies are speeding away from us, as evidenced by the red shift

that means that space is increasing, which also means mass and energy MUST also be increasing because the negative of space, and the positive of mass and energy MUST equal ZERO in the Universe, which means mass and energy, somehow, increases to keep up with the increasing space. Don't ask me how, I don't know, but that rule is paramount. The negative of space = the positive of mass and energy. The Universe is like a giant battery. that is KNOWN!

watch this vid carefully from 25:00 on. it'll open your eyes. if space increases, mass and energy MUST increase.

[link to www.youtube.com]



when a body like earth expands, maybe there are processes deep down that liberate hydrogen and oxygen deep within it to form masses of water?
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Perhaps this happened when the continent split apart and "slid".


I wonder if my body will be found thousands of years from now, with half an onion ring in my mouth, buried beneath unspeakable depths of earth eq
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Even worse....if it happens during oral sex...

ohno
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They probably have found such things and just keep it hidden from the public in the back of museums.
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When one looks at this picture...

[link to www.cliffshade.com]

It's not hard to see that the shape of the ridge matches the outline of the continents on either side.

Could this be proof of the Expanding Earth theory?

It's as simple as looking at a detailed map...

[link to maps.google.com]

The question is, where is it going to crack next?

We know that one of the most active earthquake regions is the entire Ring of Fire.

[link to www.letow.com]

While in comparison, the opposite side - the Atlantic - is relatively inactive with regards to earthquakes.

Perhaps Atlantis didn't sink. Perhaps it was merely torn apart.

So what will happen? Will the Ring of Fire crack and rise? Or will it be sinking, for something to emerge on the opposite side?

I believe that the earth is slowly cracking and expanding over time, but there is a climax...

And that climax is the point in time when landmasses are torn apart (or sink), in order for others to rise.






Thoughts?
 Quoting: Mister Obvious



It's plausible but does the Earth expansion make the center hollow?
Is our planet feeding off the Sun?
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what IS the 11 year solar cycle, exactly?

what DRIVES it? where does all that energy come from. do suns somehow deep within create energy from the negative energy of space all around them, which then get pumped back into space in CMEs, to hit our magnetosphere, and flow into our polar regions as huge amounts of electrical energy and ultimately deep into the planet, to transform somehow into mass?

why 11 years though?
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Bad color for reading but this is a good article wrote a while back

However, far more important than being a source of magma, minerals, H²O, other gases, and heat, the midocean ridges (LUVs) that almost completely encircle the planet beneath the oceans are a gigantic "geosuture" that allows the planet to grow and expand in the same way that human cranial sutures permit a child's skull to grow to adulthood. The midocean ridges are, in effect, the "enabling mechanism" that permits controlled expansion of the planet.

[link to www.expanding-earth.org]

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You are talking about the mid-oceanic ridges now that circle the planet but if there is indeed a sunken continent (however you might call it) then it would stand to reason there would in the middle of the Atlantic ocean be some sort of elevation. And this has been found.
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I have been a long believer in the "Expanding Earth" theory.

Somehow tectonic plates moving just doesn't sound right.

ALL the continents were connected at one time.

Hell even when my daughter was 6 she said that the earth looks like it "grew" and that is why everything fits together so well.
 Quoting: Hitndahedfred

It looke to me like you are implying earth was once completely covered by solid ground.

Seems impossible to me.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26459168


The negative of space = the positive of mass and energy.

you need to understand the the NATURAL state of the Universe is expansion

that's why all other galaxies are speeding away from us, as evidenced by the red shift

that means that space is increasing, which also means mass and energy MUST also be increasing because the negative of space, and the positive of mass and energy MUST equal ZERO in the Universe, which means mass and energy, somehow, increases to keep up with the increasing space. Don't ask me how, I don't know, but that rule is paramount. The negative of space = the positive of mass and energy. The Universe is like a giant battery. that is KNOWN!

watch this vid carefully from 25:00 on. it'll open your eyes. if space increases, mass and energy MUST increase.

[link to www.youtube.com]



when a body like earth expands, maybe there are processes deep down that liberate hydrogen and oxygen deep within it to form masses of water?
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I have been a long believer in the "Expanding Earth" theory.

Somehow tectonic plates moving just doesn't sound right.

ALL the continents were connected at one time.

Hell even when my daughter was 6 she said that the earth looks like it "grew" and that is why everything fits together so well.
 Quoting: Hitndahedfred

It looke to me like you are implying earth was once completely covered by solid ground.

Seems impossible to me.
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The negative of space = the positive of mass and energy.
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Space isn't opposed to mass and energy as negative and positive are.
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I have been a long believer in the "Expanding Earth" theory.

Somehow tectonic plates moving just doesn't sound right.

ALL the continents were connected at one time.

Hell even when my daughter was 6 she said that the earth looks like it "grew" and that is why everything fits together so well.
 Quoting: Hitndahedfred

It looke to me like you are implying earth was once completely covered by solid ground.

Seems impossible to me.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26459168


The negative of space = the positive of mass and energy.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 11094224

Space isn't opposed to mass and energy as negative and positive are.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26459168


that's not what Hawking and other eminent thinkers on this think.

watch that video. he clearly says the universe is like a GIANT battery that MUST balance out negative and positive, space being negative and mass and energy being positive.

i couldn't believe what i was hearing when i first saw it
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It looke to me like you are implying earth was once completely covered by solid ground.

Seems impossible to me.
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The negative of space = the positive of mass and energy.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 11094224

Space isn't opposed to mass and energy as negative and positive are.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26459168


that's not what Hawking and other eminent thinkers on this think.

watch that video. he clearly says the universe is like a GIANT battery that MUST balance out negative and positive, space being negative and mass and energy being positive.

i couldn't believe what i was hearing when i first saw it
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 11094224


if space is expanding, which we KNOW it is, then mass and energy MUST increase to keep the balance.
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Well, everyone on this thread keeps asking themselves, if the earth "grew", then what is the physics behind such a claim?

The answer is as simple as it is elegant...

Indeed, the answer also explains the most difficult and perplexing aspects of astrophysics and transforms string theory, dark matter, and a whole host of absurd mathematical gyrations into mush. Theories created, like plate tectonics, to try to explain the disconnect between classical physics equations, and astronomical observations.

The "big bang", really? really? You honestly believe all matter that exists now sprang from one point in space and spread out? That through the luck of the draw, antimatter was a lower percent than regular matter?

Pull the other one, please!

My equations, as simple as they are radical, explain the growing earth.
They explain astrophysics without invention of mythical "dark stuff"
My equations, which by the way are so obvious, that I am 100% sure they were discovered and explained in Nicolas Tesla's "missing and confiscated notebooks", are also so dangerous in the wrong hands, that I too agree with TBTB, that they should be classified as forbidden knowledge, and all research that may lead to their rediscovery, be forbidden and ridiculed, as well.

So, instead of telling you them, I will give you one outcome of their mathematical implications... Other posters can draw conclusions that won't get us all killed.

"The larger the gravity well, the more matter it "fixes", (makes permanent ), in our dimension. "

Matter created in this manner forms elements based upon functions of random energy concentrations and periodic table position.

One other obvious conclusion is that suns don't burn out, they either grow into a nova, or they enter a galactic eddy with reduced energy concentrations...
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Yeh, OP, and I believe that there is a shitload of water inside the Earth's mantle too. It's said that steam emissions from inside earth caused the formation of seas and oceans, so if the earth is still a ball of molten fire inside, then it makes sense that there is lots of water down there too.

I think that the fragile Atlantic ridge split apart during the Atlantean era because an incredible amount of steam inside the mantle caused so much pressure, that the ridge was forced open. Not only did all of this steam envelope the Earth, but quadrillion gallons of boiling water burst forth and flooded the earth -- killing all of the Atlanteans.

I can't recall exactly what ancient texts mentioned this, but they mentioned a time when the seas boiled and everything died. I believe that the boiling seas where the result of convection from inside the earth -- when the ridge split apart and Atlantis was destroyed.

In fact, these articles may be of interest to you:

Huge 'Ocean' Discovered Inside Earth

[link to www.livescience.com]

Inner Earth May Hold More Water Than the Seas

[link to news.nationalgeographic.com]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26461173

All this doesn't add much credibility to the idea that, "in the beginning" as it goes, earth consisted of "molten rock".

Where would all that water have come from ?

The most obvious explanation seems to be it was always ther but it wasn't chemically or physically distinguishable from the "molten rock" (which of course was not molten rock either).

In other words, earth didn't start out as "molten rock". It was a diffuse mass which over time solidified and separated into matter of different densities.
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I just know that hydrogen hails from molten rock, and when it mixes with oxygen, it forms into water molecules. And there is an abundance of an oxygen storing mineral called 'majorite' deep within the Earth's mantle. The concentration of oxygen, hydrogen and heat would cause massive amounts of water vapour to build up within enormous caverns inside the mantle. My belief is, that these vapours formed into seas and possibly oceans inside these gargantuan caverns, and because these waters were boiling, too much pressure was created and caused the mid-ocean ridges to split, thus allowing all of this steam and boiling water to escape to the surface.
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Yeh, OP, and I believe that there is a shitload of water inside the Earth's mantle too. It's said that steam emissions from inside earth caused the formation of seas and oceans, so if the earth is still a ball of molten fire inside, then it makes sense that there is lots of water down there too.

I think that the fragile Atlantic ridge split apart during the Atlantean era because an incredible amount of steam inside the mantle caused so much pressure, that the ridge was forced open. Not only did all of this steam envelope the Earth, but quadrillion gallons of boiling water burst forth and flooded the earth -- killing all of the Atlanteans.

I can't recall exactly what ancient texts mentioned this, but they mentioned a time when the seas boiled and everything died. I believe that the boiling seas where the result of convection from inside the earth -- when the ridge split apart and Atlantis was destroyed.

In fact, these articles may be of interest to you:

Huge 'Ocean' Discovered Inside Earth

[link to www.livescience.com]

Inner Earth May Hold More Water Than the Seas

[link to news.nationalgeographic.com]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26461173

All this doesn't add much credibility to the idea that, "in the beginning" as it goes, earth consisted of "molten rock".

Where would all that water have come from ?

The most obvious explanation seems to be it was always ther but it wasn't chemically or physically distinguishable from the "molten rock" (which of course was not molten rock either).

In other words, earth didn't start out as "molten rock". It was a diffuse mass which over time solidified and separated into matter of different densities.
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Thats an easy one.


The moon was created by another small planetary body colliding with fledgling earth. This body was a gas giant, only it originally started in the kupitor belt and was comprised of mostly hydrogen and Oxygen, the elements of water!, the smaller solid core struck the earth and the gravitational pull pulled all the gaseous mass into the earth causing a massive rainfall and then major cooling.

This is another idea that has not caught on yet. And it is mine....LOL

This is were all our water came from, and you can look at the moon and thank it, there is a reason the moon is connected to the most peoples feelings to the seas. It is the reason we have them
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Yeh, OP, and I believe that there is a shitload of water inside the Earth's mantle too. It's said that steam emissions from inside earth caused the formation of seas and oceans, so if the earth is still a ball of molten fire inside, then it makes sense that there is lots of water down there too.

I think that the fragile Atlantic ridge split apart during the Atlantean era because an incredible amount of steam inside the mantle caused so much pressure, that the ridge was forced open. Not only did all of this steam envelope the Earth, but quadrillion gallons of boiling water burst forth and flooded the earth -- killing all of the Atlanteans.

I can't recall exactly what ancient texts mentioned this, but they mentioned a time when the seas boiled and everything died. I believe that the boiling seas where the result of convection from inside the earth -- when the ridge split apart and Atlantis was destroyed.

In fact, these articles may be of interest to you:

Huge 'Ocean' Discovered Inside Earth

[link to www.livescience.com]

Inner Earth May Hold More Water Than the Seas

[link to news.nationalgeographic.com]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26461173

All this doesn't add much credibility to the idea that, "in the beginning" as it goes, earth consisted of "molten rock".

Where would all that water have come from ?

The most obvious explanation seems to be it was always ther but it wasn't chemically or physically distinguishable from the "molten rock" (which of course was not molten rock either).

In other words, earth didn't start out as "molten rock". It was a diffuse mass which over time solidified and separated into matter of different densities.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26459168


Thats an easy one.


The moon was created by another small planetary body colliding with fledgling earth. This body was a gas giant, only it originally started in the kupitor belt and was comprised of mostly hydrogen and Oxygen, the elements of water!, the smaller solid core struck the earth and the gravitational pull pulled all the gaseous mass into the earth causing a massive rainfall and then major cooling.

This is another idea that has not caught on yet. And it is mine....LOL

This is were all our water came from, and you can look at the moon and thank it, there is a reason the moon is connected to the most peoples feelings to the seas. It is the reason we have them
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The core of the gas giant was what created the moon, that is the collision mentioned.
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To OP Obvious to and every one who reads and comments about expanding earth, perhaps the first thing they should understand, is that for the earth to be half it's mass during the age of the dinosaurs (50 million more or less), which the evidence DOES show quite clearly,
...then the earth only needs to expand several INCHES in circumference every year, on the average. You can do the math easily enough yourself on a calculator. It is Obvious.

This is not a great amount of change per year for even the most "rational" (entrenched?) mind to accept, in fact even with the way GPS is set up, a precise circumference measurement to mere inches, is beyond current technology to measure. (However there are other ways that Expanding Earth could be directly inferred, if the effort were made, or if the veil of secrecy were lifted.)

And yet the implications of Expanding Earth evidence are still very profound and important. Not only did the dinosaurs live in one half the gravity, but also they are NOT the source of the oil, hydrocarbons and water that well up from deep within the earth. This is because of Neutrinos are ultimately being converted to hydrogen, and these very materials ARE the expansion of the earth itself.

Stars also have more steady state hydrogen supply, and their burn process is misinterpreted by current theory, if Expanding Earth is correct.

The Expanding Earth theory has in fact been around of hundreds of years, and predates the current Continental Drift theory, but it has always been the leaders of the petroleum industry spearheading the effort to deny Expanding Earth evidence, and it is the petroleum industry that directly promotes the promulgation of the Continental Drift theory, although most graduate geology students comes to find this out these days.

And the motives there all have to do with the package of false ideas that TPTB want to program in peoples mind, like that we are running out of petroleum (we are not), and that the world has a problem with over-population (it does not).

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...

It looke to me like you are implying earth was once completely covered by solid ground.

Seems impossible to me.
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The negative of space = the positive of mass and energy.
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Space isn't opposed to mass and energy as negative and positive are.
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that's not what Hawking and other eminent thinkers on this think.

watch that video. he clearly says the universe is like a GIANT battery that MUST balance out negative and positive, space being negative and mass and energy being positive.

i couldn't believe what i was hearing when i first saw it
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I happen to disagree. I am totally of the opinion that the universe IS polarized into positive and negative as visible from the fact that EVERYTHING consists of an equal amount of opposing charges (protons/electrons) and when it doesn't, there is electrical current to reestablish the equilibrium. But I don't agree that space "opposes" energy and matter.
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Yeh, OP, and I believe that there is a shitload of water inside the Earth's mantle too. It's said that steam emissions from inside earth caused the formation of seas and oceans, so if the earth is still a ball of molten fire inside, then it makes sense that there is lots of water down there too.

I think that the fragile Atlantic ridge split apart during the Atlantean era because an incredible amount of steam inside the mantle caused so much pressure, that the ridge was forced open. Not only did all of this steam envelope the Earth, but quadrillion gallons of boiling water burst forth and flooded the earth -- killing all of the Atlanteans.

I can't recall exactly what ancient texts mentioned this, but they mentioned a time when the seas boiled and everything died. I believe that the boiling seas where the result of convection from inside the earth -- when the ridge split apart and Atlantis was destroyed.

In fact, these articles may be of interest to you:

Huge 'Ocean' Discovered Inside Earth

[link to www.livescience.com]

Inner Earth May Hold More Water Than the Seas

[link to news.nationalgeographic.com]
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All this doesn't add much credibility to the idea that, "in the beginning" as it goes, earth consisted of "molten rock".

Where would all that water have come from ?

The most obvious explanation seems to be it was always ther but it wasn't chemically or physically distinguishable from the "molten rock" (which of course was not molten rock either).

In other words, earth didn't start out as "molten rock". It was a diffuse mass which over time solidified and separated into matter of different densities.
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Thats an easy one.


The moon was created by another small planetary body colliding with fledgling earth. This body was a gas giant, only it originally started in the kupitor belt and was comprised of mostly hydrogen and Oxygen, the elements of water!, the smaller solid core struck the earth and the gravitational pull pulled all the gaseous mass into the earth causing a massive rainfall and then major cooling.

This is another idea that has not caught on yet. And it is mine....LOL

This is were all our water came from, and you can look at the moon and thank it, there is a reason the moon is connected to the most peoples feelings to the seas. It is the reason we have them
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This is total speculation.
What's more, is has been concluded recently (I read that less than 14 days ago on the internet) that the moon materiel being about the same as earth materiel, is it highly likely that the moon in fact does consist of matter originating from our earth.
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Yeh, OP, and I believe that there is a shitload of water inside the Earth's mantle too. It's said that steam emissions from inside earth caused the formation of seas and oceans, so if the earth is still a ball of molten fire inside, then it makes sense that there is lots of water down there too.

I think that the fragile Atlantic ridge split apart during the Atlantean era because an incredible amount of steam inside the mantle caused so much pressure, that the ridge was forced open. Not only did all of this steam envelope the Earth, but quadrillion gallons of boiling water burst forth and flooded the earth -- killing all of the Atlanteans.

I can't recall exactly what ancient texts mentioned this, but they mentioned a time when the seas boiled and everything died. I believe that the boiling seas where the result of convection from inside the earth -- when the ridge split apart and Atlantis was destroyed.

In fact, these articles may be of interest to you:

Huge 'Ocean' Discovered Inside Earth

[link to www.livescience.com]

Inner Earth May Hold More Water Than the Seas

[link to news.nationalgeographic.com]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26461173

All this doesn't add much credibility to the idea that, "in the beginning" as it goes, earth consisted of "molten rock".

Where would all that water have come from ?

The most obvious explanation seems to be it was always ther but it wasn't chemically or physically distinguishable from the "molten rock" (which of course was not molten rock either).

In other words, earth didn't start out as "molten rock". It was a diffuse mass which over time solidified and separated into matter of different densities.
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I just know that hydrogen hails from molten rock, and when it mixes with oxygen, it forms into water molecules. And there is an abundance of an oxygen storing mineral called 'majorite' deep within the Earth's mantle. The concentration of oxygen, hydrogen and heat would cause massive amounts of water vapour to build up within enormous caverns inside the mantle. My belief is, that these vapours formed into seas and possibly oceans inside these gargantuan caverns, and because these waters were boiling, too much pressure was created and caused the mid-ocean ridges to split, thus allowing all of this steam and boiling water to escape to the surface.
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Hydrogen hails from molten rock ?
Maybe today, all kinds of gsses escape from magma but this is today. It just doesn't prove there WAS actually molten rock "in the beginning" for gases to escape from.
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The negative of space = the positive of mass and energy.
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Space isn't opposed to mass and energy as negative and positive are.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26459168


that's not what Hawking and other eminent thinkers on this think.

watch that video. he clearly says the universe is like a GIANT battery that MUST balance out negative and positive, space being negative and mass and energy being positive.

i couldn't believe what i was hearing when i first saw it
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 11094224

I happen to disagree. I am totally of the opinion that the universe IS polarized into positive and negative as visible from the fact that EVERYTHING consists of an equal amount of opposing charges (protons/electrons) and when it doesn't, there is electrical current to reestablish the equilibrium. But I don't agree that space "opposes" energy and matter.
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that is exactly how he comes across on that video though.
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Yeh, OP, and I believe that there is a shitload of water inside the Earth's mantle too. It's said that steam emissions from inside earth caused the formation of seas and oceans, so if the earth is still a ball of molten fire inside, then it makes sense that there is lots of water down there too.

I think that the fragile Atlantic ridge split apart during the Atlantean era because an incredible amount of steam inside the mantle caused so much pressure, that the ridge was forced open. Not only did all of this steam envelope the Earth, but quadrillion gallons of boiling water burst forth and flooded the earth -- killing all of the Atlanteans.

I can't recall exactly what ancient texts mentioned this, but they mentioned a time when the seas boiled and everything died. I believe that the boiling seas where the result of convection from inside the earth -- when the ridge split apart and Atlantis was destroyed.

In fact, these articles may be of interest to you:

Huge 'Ocean' Discovered Inside Earth

[link to www.livescience.com]

Inner Earth May Hold More Water Than the Seas

[link to news.nationalgeographic.com]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26461173

All this doesn't add much credibility to the idea that, "in the beginning" as it goes, earth consisted of "molten rock".

Where would all that water have come from ?

The most obvious explanation seems to be it was always ther but it wasn't chemically or physically distinguishable from the "molten rock" (which of course was not molten rock either).

In other words, earth didn't start out as "molten rock". It was a diffuse mass which over time solidified and separated into matter of different densities.
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Thats an easy one.


The moon was created by another small planetary body colliding with fledgling earth. This body was a gas giant, only it originally started in the kupitor belt and was comprised of mostly hydrogen and Oxygen, the elements of water!, the smaller solid core struck the earth and the gravitational pull pulled all the gaseous mass into the earth causing a massive rainfall and then major cooling.

This is another idea that has not caught on yet. And it is mine....LOL

This is were all our water came from, and you can look at the moon and thank it, there is a reason the moon is connected to the most peoples feelings to the seas. It is the reason we have them
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25028055

This is total speculation.
What's more, is has been concluded recently (I read that less than 14 days ago on the internet) that the moon materiel being about the same as earth materiel, is it highly likely that the moon in fact does consist of matter originating from our earth.
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This is true.

But, what was it that collided with the earth to began with? Were did it originate from?

The most probable scenario was that the planetary body that struck the earth came from the solar system itself, it has long been speculated that the asteroid belt between mars and Jupitor could have, and should have formed a planetary body, in my theory it did.

If you look into it, you will find the each of the gas giants in the solar system is comprised of the elements that work as a gas from that distance from the sun.

Between mars and Jupiter is exaclty the position for a Hydrogen, Oxygen giant to exist. Our planet could not have collected the water it has in any way, it had to come outside source.

You will also find correlations to a massive cooling on the earths surface,and a major change in its atmosphere at the exact same time the moon was formed.

It all makes sense