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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1345673 Australia 08/23/2011 07:58 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: The Australian government has just instituted a requirement for all parents to bring their child into a GP for a health assessment Seriously though, you would have to be a total dumb ass to not have your kids vaccinated. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1516431 Not doing research and still choosing not to vaccinate is irresponsible. I vaccinate partially on the fact that I don't want my kid getting something life threatening because some other parent doesn't want to give a kid a shot. So when your kid turns into a vegetable just like those ones with the swine flu and Health Minister says a few adverse cases from not undergoing enough testing you'll be cool with that. How about now you have a kid that's a vegetable and you have to give up your job to be a full-time carer and receive next to nothing from the Government in income support? |
mysterynomore (OP) User ID: 1516363 Australia 08/23/2011 08:01 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: The Australian government has just instituted a requirement for all parents to bring their child into a GP for a health assessment makes me wonder if we are even run by Australians anymore.. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1345673 Just remember Labor ain't just Julia, shes the puppet... its the shadow caucus made up of members of the backbench that run the show in the ALP. RALLY WITH THE OTHERS FOR A DOUBLE DISSOLUTION ELECTION NOW! But you don't get it, vote out Juliar the Communist? And get who? Tony the Neocon? He will take off the carbon tax and install microchips in all peoples heads! I get it, they both actually look the same.... reptilian or robot... I have known it's all a sham from when we had to vote and went down to the polling both and voted with the supplied PENCIL! You sign checks etc. all the time in pen otherwise its not legally binding. Who's to say they didn't rub our votes in pencil out and change them? It's all one big sham..You go and get your name crossed of at the polling boths and abstain from voting anyone in, and what happens...The ruling goverment gets that vote, regardless of not voting for a particular party. Each side plays the other...It's the name of the game. So these laws there bringing in will be brought in regardless of who is in goverment. The only way to stop this is for the people to rise up and say enough is enough. Because were divided, it's easy for these goverments to implement there laws. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1485869 Australia 08/23/2011 08:03 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: The Australian government has just instituted a requirement for all parents to bring their child into a GP for a health assessment There is no way I would ever fill out that form. Quoting: Zero Point I will never vaccinate my children. Over my dead body will they inject them with that crap. I'm not eligible for benefits anyway, but I would forgo it first. People who need it to eat because they pay so much tax do not have a choice though do they? And these are not entirely poor people either I think the cut off for that payment is like 98 grand. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1485869 Australia 08/23/2011 08:06 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: The Australian government has just instituted a requirement for all parents to bring their child into a GP for a health assessment Seriously though, you would have to be a total dumb ass to not have your kids vaccinated. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1516431 I had mine vaccinated because I didn't KNOW back then. If I knew what I know now then I would not have done it. My son got sick at 2 and had constant problems and it started after the vaccinations. Hes ok now at 11 but I think it somehow changed him forever. |
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miserkocho User ID: 1376127 Australia 08/23/2011 08:15 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: The Australian government has just instituted a requirement for all parents to bring their child into a GP for a health assessment Seriously though, you would have to be a total dumb ass to not have your kids vaccinated. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1516431 Not doing research and still choosing not to vaccinate is irresponsible. I vaccinate partially on the fact that I don't want my kid getting something life threatening because some other parent doesn't want to give a kid a shot. my sister hasn't.my niece is 7,traveled all over the world.goes to thailand 3 mths of the year.my sisters kid her choice....and she's a teacher. how can u tackle health while ignoring diet.sickness helps to build a healthy immune system,sterility is not healthy. searching for intelligent life in all its forms without judgement. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1516431 Australia 08/23/2011 08:16 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: The Australian government has just instituted a requirement for all parents to bring their child into a GP for a health assessment Seriously though, you would have to be a total dumb ass to not have your kids vaccinated. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1516431 Not doing research and still choosing not to vaccinate is irresponsible. I vaccinate partially on the fact that I don't want my kid getting something life threatening because some other parent doesn't want to give a kid a shot. So when your kid turns into a vegetable just like those ones with the swine flu and Health Minister says a few adverse cases from not undergoing enough testing you'll be cool with that. How about now you have a kid that's a vegetable and you have to give up your job to be a full-time carer and receive next to nothing from the Government in income support? Life is all about %'s however small. Better that than being responsible for a dead kid when I could have prevented it. |
mysterynomore (OP) User ID: 1516363 Australia 08/23/2011 08:16 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: The Australian government has just instituted a requirement for all parents to bring their child into a GP for a health assessment BTW, Never, Never, Never take the microchip. Die first, In Jesus Name. Quoting: FierySky It is coming. Pfft they can microchip my arse. Not for religious reason- but because they are mother fuckers. I'm telling you know that your already microchiped. If your had any vaccinations or shots from the doctors which most have, then the nano tech chip is already inside you. As it is with the majority, if not all of the populance. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1226071 Australia 08/23/2011 08:16 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: The Australian government has just instituted a requirement for all parents to bring their child into a GP for a health assessment Seriously though, you would have to be a total dumb ass to not have your kids vaccinated. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1516431 Not doing research and still choosing not to vaccinate is irresponsible. I vaccinate partially on the fact that I don't want my kid getting something life threatening because some other parent doesn't want to give a kid a shot. And these diseases would be what exactly? Polio?, extremely rare,Diphtheria?...Hasn't been around for 100 years, and tell me what the fuck a 3 month old baby needs a shot for Hep, A/B you do know how this virus is transmitted don't you?.... I have 3 kids 8, 6, 3, all boys . First two are immunized, my youngest is a virgin and has been the healthiest out of all 3 of them. I think it is the right of the parent to choose and that right should be respected on both sides. |
mysterynomore (OP) User ID: 1516363 Australia 08/23/2011 08:23 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: The Australian government has just instituted a requirement for all parents to bring their child into a GP for a health assessment Seriously though, you would have to be a total dumb ass to not have your kids vaccinated. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1516431 Not doing research and still choosing not to vaccinate is irresponsible. I vaccinate partially on the fact that I don't want my kid getting something life threatening because some other parent doesn't want to give a kid a shot. And these diseases would be what exactly? Polio?, extremely rare,Diphtheria?...Hasn't been around for 100 years, and tell me what the fuck a 3 month old baby needs a shot for Hep, A/B you do know how this virus is transmitted don't you?.... I have 3 kids 8, 6, 3, all boys . First two are immunized, my youngest is a virgin and has been the healthiest out of all 3 of them. I think it is the right of the parent to choose and that right should be respected on both sides. I agree totally but we might not have that right for much longer. The shots basically retard the immune system. Being developing kids, who knows what damage is inflicted in there body's. |
Swan Song User ID: 1419054 Australia 08/23/2011 08:25 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: The Australian government has just instituted a requirement for all parents to bring their child into a GP for a health assessment I agree that there is something sinister about this health assesment. Now the government will be collecting even more information on our children, and just what are they going to do with this information ? Remember that you always do have a choice, and they can't force you to take your children along for the assesment. Also if you receive family tax benefit or other child care benefits, they cannot take this away if you choose to not vaccinate your child, they will however make you fill out their conscientious objection letter. But of course they won't advertise that you actually have a choice in the matter because they want you to just go along with it without question. To the world I am just a number, but the Lamb of God He knows me by my name. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1409343 Australia 08/23/2011 08:26 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: The Australian government has just instituted a requirement for all parents to bring their child into a GP for a health assessment I go to regular constitutional law research group meetings and the constitution in Australia is apparently one of the best in the world. (Although the vast majority of people including lawyers are ignorant of it and there is much corruption in the system.) The highest law in Australia rests with the people, and the government are (supposed to be) there to obey us and are public servants. For something to become 'Law' it has to pass a referendum. These 'new laws' are not laws but rather 'statutes' - which is an agreement between two parties. You must educate yourselves and not agree to that which you don't. I imagine these health assessments would be used to trick parents into thinking vaccination is compulsory or get doctors to bully you (also notice they want you to sign that you consent to this in the form.) Doctors cannot force anything. I would be really interested to know if you can still get your family payments without vaccinating. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1516458 Australia 08/23/2011 08:32 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: The Australian government has just instituted a requirement for all parents to bring their child into a GP for a health assessment I HAD to get my 4 year old vaccinated by a nurse (because child care centres won't accept children who aren't up to date with their vaccinations) and I got a lecture from her about what to feed my kid and how to raise him according to the QLD government. Yes, the government are telling us how to raise our children now... |
mysterynomore (OP) User ID: 1516363 Australia 08/23/2011 08:35 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: The Australian government has just instituted a requirement for all parents to bring their child into a GP for a health assessment I go to regular constitutional law research group meetings and the constitution in Australia is apparently one of the best in the world. (Although the vast majority of people including lawyers are ignorant of it and there is much corruption in the system.) The highest law in Australia rests with the people, and the government are (supposed to be) there to obey us and are public servants. For something to become 'Law' it has to pass a referendum. These 'new laws' are not laws but rather 'statutes' - which is an agreement between two parties. You must educate yourselves and not agree to that which you don't. I imagine these health assessments would be used to trick parents into thinking vaccination is compulsory or get doctors to bully you (also notice they want you to sign that you consent to this in the form.) Doctors cannot force anything. I would be really interested to know if you can still get your family payments without vaccinating. Yes... Totally agree with what you say. The letters that will be set out will be taken in a way so people assume it's mandatory..The majority aren't educated enough in these fields and fall for the trap. That's the major problem |
Swan Song User ID: 1419054 Australia 08/23/2011 08:36 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: The Australian government has just instituted a requirement for all parents to bring their child into a GP for a health assessment Seriously though, you would have to be a total dumb ass to not have your kids vaccinated. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1516431 Not doing research and still choosing not to vaccinate is irresponsible. I vaccinate partially on the fact that I don't want my kid getting something life threatening because some other parent doesn't want to give a kid a shot. It is irresponsible to assume that if a child is vaccinated then they will never contract the disease they are vaccinated against and pass it on to another child. I have done my research including all the anecdotal evidence and I am very satisfied that I have made the right decision. To the world I am just a number, but the Lamb of God He knows me by my name. |
miserkocho User ID: 1376127 Australia 08/23/2011 08:36 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: The Australian government has just instituted a requirement for all parents to bring their child into a GP for a health assessment I go to regular constitutional law research group meetings and the constitution in Australia is apparently one of the best in the world. (Although the vast majority of people including lawyers are ignorant of it and there is much corruption in the system.) The highest law in Australia rests with the people, and the government are (supposed to be) there to obey us and are public servants. For something to become 'Law' it has to pass a referendum. These 'new laws' are not laws but rather 'statutes' - which is an agreement between two parties. You must educate yourselves and not agree to that which you don't. I imagine these health assessments would be used to trick parents into thinking vaccination is compulsory or get doctors to bully you (also notice they want you to sign that you consent to this in the form.) Doctors cannot force anything. I would be really interested to know if you can still get your family payments without vaccinating. hooray 4 u good sir\madam,an australian constitutionalists. i never in what state r these meetings? searching for intelligent life in all its forms without judgement. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1226071 Australia 08/23/2011 08:40 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: The Australian government has just instituted a requirement for all parents to bring their child into a GP for a health assessment I HAD to get my 4 year old vaccinated by a nurse (because child care centres won't accept children who aren't up to date with their vaccinations) and I got a lecture from her about what to feed my kid and how to raise him according to the QLD government. Yes, the government are telling us how to raise our children now... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1516458 No, that is incorrect. The center cannot turn your child away if he/she has not been vaccinated but what they can and will do is, if there is a breakout at the center of a particular disease that your child is not immunized against then you will have to remove your child from the center until it has been deemed safe for your child to return. I know this because my 3 year old is pure and attends day care 2 days a week. |
nexuseditor User ID: 1514626 Australia 08/23/2011 08:47 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: The Australian government has just instituted a requirement for all parents to bring their child into a GP for a health assessment Vaccinations are not proven to be either safe OR effective. They do not always confer 'immunity' even with boosters. The side effects can be so severe - that you are literally playing Russian Roulette with your child's life - and for what? THEY DO NOT AUTOMATICALLY GIVE IMMUNITY!!! I raised two healthy children. When faced with the vaccination choice - I looked at BOTH sides of the debate - and there was NO CHOICE - vaccination is not worth the risk. My children were exposed to all normal diseases, and have travelled in third world countries - without ever getting the usual diseases in their full manifestation. Their immune systems were simply strong enough as a result of NOT being vaccinated, that they never got sick. Those who claim to have researched both sides of the debate, and then choose to vaccinate - are complete frauds. Just looking at what is in the adjuvants of vaccines should stop any sane person in their tracks. The adjuvants in the normal vaccines usually include aluminium hydroxide, formaldehyde or mercury compounds. These are what is injected into new-born babies in order to MAYBE give them immunity to some disease. You sheeple can take the risk all you want, but be warned - if your baby dies from the side-effects of the vaccines - you, and/or your partner will face charges for shaking your baby to death. They can make it retrospective - ie you don't even have to been present at the time of death. There are hundreds of people in jail, convicted of shaking their child to death - and many of them are innocent. This is because the symptoms of vaccine-death are similar to those of shaken-baby deaths, ie swelling of the brain. Those actually physically shaken all have bruising where held by the shaker. But even if they don't have bruising, you will go to jail. That is what is happening every week in the USA and in Australia and in the UK. Last Edited by I LOVE PENIS on 08/23/2011 08:47 AM |
Swan Song User ID: 1419054 Australia 08/23/2011 08:48 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: The Australian government has just instituted a requirement for all parents to bring their child into a GP for a health assessment I HAD to get my 4 year old vaccinated by a nurse (because child care centres won't accept children who aren't up to date with their vaccinations) and I got a lecture from her about what to feed my kid and how to raise him according to the QLD government. Yes, the government are telling us how to raise our children now... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1516458 No, that is incorrect. The center cannot turn your child away if he/she has not been vaccinated but what they can and will do is, if there is a breakout at the center of a particular disease that your child is not immunized against then you will have to remove your child from the center until it has been deemed safe for your child to return. I know this because my 3 year old is pure and attends day care 2 days a week. correct ! like I always say, you always have a choice. They are discriminating against you if they turn you away for choosing not to vaccinate your child. Many people do not vaccinate due to religious beliefs. To the world I am just a number, but the Lamb of God He knows me by my name. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1516458 Australia 08/23/2011 08:55 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: The Australian government has just instituted a requirement for all parents to bring their child into a GP for a health assessment I HAD to get my 4 year old vaccinated by a nurse (because child care centres won't accept children who aren't up to date with their vaccinations) and I got a lecture from her about what to feed my kid and how to raise him according to the QLD government. Yes, the government are telling us how to raise our children now... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1516458 No, that is incorrect. The center cannot turn your child away if he/she has not been vaccinated but what they can and will do is, if there is a breakout at the center of a particular disease that your child is not immunized against then you will have to remove your child from the center until it has been deemed safe for your child to return. I know this because my 3 year old is pure and attends day care 2 days a week. Really? the centre director really wanted the vaccination book and I was under the impression that all kids had to get vaccinated first. Wow, Ok then, I had no idea... |
Swan Song User ID: 1419054 Australia 08/23/2011 09:00 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: The Australian government has just instituted a requirement for all parents to bring their child into a GP for a health assessment Vaccinations are not proven to be either safe OR effective. They do not always confer 'immunity' even with boosters. The side effects can be so severe - that you are literally playing Russian Roulette with your child's life - and for what? THEY DO NOT AUTOMATICALLY GIVE IMMUNITY!!! I raised two healthy children. When faced with the vaccination choice - I looked at BOTH sides of the debate - and there was NO CHOICE - vaccination is not worth the risk. My children were exposed to all normal diseases, and have travelled in third world countries - without ever getting the usual diseases in their full manifestation. Their immune systems were simply strong enough as a result of NOT being vaccinated, that they never got sick. Those who claim to have researched both sides of the debate, and then choose to vaccinate - are complete frauds. Just looking at what is in the adjuvants of vaccines should stop any sane person in their tracks. The adjuvants in the normal vaccines usually include aluminium hydroxide, formaldehyde or mercury compounds. These are what is injected into new-born babies in order to MAYBE give them immunity to some disease. You sheeple can take the risk all you want, but be warned - if your baby dies from the side-effects of the vaccines - you, and/or your partner will face charges for shaking your baby to death. They can make it retrospective - ie you don't even have to been present at the time of death. There are hundreds of people in jail, convicted of shaking their child to death - and many of them are innocent. This is because the symptoms of vaccine-death are similar to those of shaken-baby deaths, ie swelling of the brain. Those actually physically shaken all have bruising where held by the shaker. But even if they don't have bruising, you will go to jail. That is what is happening every week in the USA and in Australia and in the UK. I have had conversations with several parents who have said to me that they are aware there may be risks in vaccinating their child but they decided that they would still go ahead and vaccinate anyway. I think that for many parents they think it won't happen to their child and they and are so fearful and brainwashed to believe the risk of injury/death is so minimal compared to contracting the disease. To the world I am just a number, but the Lamb of God He knows me by my name. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1409343 Australia 08/23/2011 09:01 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: The Australian government has just instituted a requirement for all parents to bring their child into a GP for a health assessment I go to regular constitutional law research group meetings and the constitution in Australia is apparently one of the best in the world. (Although the vast majority of people including lawyers are ignorant of it and there is much corruption in the system.) The highest law in Australia rests with the people, and the government are (supposed to be) there to obey us and are public servants. For something to become 'Law' it has to pass a referendum. These 'new laws' are not laws but rather 'statutes' - which is an agreement between two parties. You must educate yourselves and not agree to that which you don't. I imagine these health assessments would be used to trick parents into thinking vaccination is compulsory or get doctors to bully you (also notice they want you to sign that you consent to this in the form.) Doctors cannot force anything. I would be really interested to know if you can still get your family payments without vaccinating. hooray 4 u good sir\madam,an australian constitutionalists. i never in what state r these meetings? I know there are different ones in various states. But I go to one called CLRG (Community Law Research Group) at the Ashburton Library in Victoria. Check out the website for interesting articles: www.clrg.info |
mysterynomore (OP) User ID: 1516363 Australia 08/23/2011 09:08 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: The Australian government has just instituted a requirement for all parents to bring their child into a GP for a health assessment Vaccinations are not proven to be either safe OR effective. They do not always confer 'immunity' even with boosters. The side effects can be so severe - that you are literally playing Russian Roulette with your child's life - and for what? THEY DO NOT AUTOMATICALLY GIVE IMMUNITY!!! I raised two healthy children. When faced with the vaccination choice - I looked at BOTH sides of the debate - and there was NO CHOICE - vaccination is not worth the risk. My children were exposed to all normal diseases, and have travelled in third world countries - without ever getting the usual diseases in their full manifestation. Their immune systems were simply strong enough as a result of NOT being vaccinated, that they never got sick. Those who claim to have researched both sides of the debate, and then choose to vaccinate - are complete frauds. Just looking at what is in the adjuvants of vaccines should stop any sane person in their tracks. The adjuvants in the normal vaccines usually include aluminium hydroxide, formaldehyde or mercury compounds. These are what is injected into new-born babies in order to MAYBE give them immunity to some disease. You sheeple can take the risk all you want, but be warned - if your baby dies from the side-effects of the vaccines - you, and/or your partner will face charges for shaking your baby to death. They can make it retrospective - ie you don't even have to been present at the time of death. There are hundreds of people in jail, convicted of shaking their child to death - and many of them are innocent. This is because the symptoms of vaccine-death are similar to those of shaken-baby deaths, ie swelling of the brain. Those actually physically shaken all have bruising where held by the shaker. But even if they don't have bruising, you will go to jail. That is what is happening every week in the USA and in Australia and in the UK. People are just not informed on the outcome of vaccinations. If they did there homework they would know the risks involved. Then and only then, would that decision be one that comes from being fully informed. People put to much trust in other people...We all have the capacity to learn new things. Is it laziness or down right stupity. Totally agree with duncan's view. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1483383 Malaysia 08/23/2011 09:14 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: The Australian government has just instituted a requirement for all parents to bring their child into a GP for a health assessment haha NO MORE OPTING OUT of vaccination for your child - unless you dont want their welfare money, If you take their welfare money - Molech will want his pound of flesh. What are you gonna do now? |
miserkocho User ID: 1376127 Australia 08/23/2011 09:20 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: The Australian government has just instituted a requirement for all parents to bring their child into a GP for a health assessment I go to regular constitutional law research group meetings and the constitution in Australia is apparently one of the best in the world. (Although the vast majority of people including lawyers are ignorant of it and there is much corruption in the system.) The highest law in Australia rests with the people, and the government are (supposed to be) there to obey us and are public servants. For something to become 'Law' it has to pass a referendum. These 'new laws' are not laws but rather 'statutes' - which is an agreement between two parties. You must educate yourselves and not agree to that which you don't. I imagine these health assessments would be used to trick parents into thinking vaccination is compulsory or get doctors to bully you (also notice they want you to sign that you consent to this in the form.) Doctors cannot force anything. I would be really interested to know if you can still get your family payments without vaccinating. hooray 4 u good sir\madam,an australian constitutionalists. i never in what state r these meetings? I know there are different ones in various states. But I go to one called CLRG (Community Law Research Group) at the Ashburton Library in Victoria. Check out the website for interesting articles: www.clrg.info no shit ,i live in the eastern suburbs.i'll look into it..thanks searching for intelligent life in all its forms without judgement. |
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miserkocho User ID: 1376127 Australia 08/23/2011 09:30 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: The Australian government has just instituted a requirement for all parents to bring their child into a GP for a health assessment I know there are different ones in various states. But I go to one called CLRG (Community Law Research Group) at the Ashburton Library in Victoria. Check out the website for interesting articles: www.clrg.info ha,i play cricket not even 5 minutes away. Last Edited by miserkocho on 08/23/2011 09:30 AM searching for intelligent life in all its forms without judgement. |