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Why is the bible so confusing. Shouldn't it be simple to understand so all people can follow?

 
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Why is the bible so confusing. Shouldn't it be simple to understand so all people can follow?
Seems to me the bible is an distraction by itself. Just like the politicians today. They tell you things that sound complex so that you can't fully understand it. That's why you rely on your leader because you think they are smarter than you.

The same is with the bible. It makes your life looks complicated so you will feel small. And you listen to the religion leaders because you think by doing so you will make your god happy.

Sound like the same? It is to me.
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It should indeed.
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There's nothing to follow, it is a book of ancient mythology and nothing more.
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Re: Why is the bible so confusing. Shouldn't it be simple to understand so all people can follow?
Seems to me the bible is an distraction by itself. Just like the politicians today. They tell you things that sound complex so that you can't fully understand it. That's why you rely on your leader because you think they are smarter than you.

The same is with the bible. It makes your life looks complicated so you will feel small. And you listen to the religion leaders because you think by doing so you will make your god happy.

Sound like the same? It is to me.
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You are so correct.The bible should be easy to read and it is, really. The problem is in all of the different versions and different ways of expressing what is in the bible.

Which is the right bible? Which one is the Word of God? Would God make his Word difficult to understand? No he wouldn't and is why the Authorized King James Version in English of course, was used to teach English across the world as well as to teach scriptures.

The English written in the KJV bible is filth grade level English. It has thees and thous and hath and words like those because many of the world's languages use specific words for second, third person and plural.

When those words are used then it becomes clear when a person is being referred to or many people and exactly who is being addressed or being talked about.

The bible uses bible English and once one gets the sense of the few words that are different then it becomes super simple to understand.

There is one snag, as it were in that if one looks at the bible with a wrong attitude or without faith then the truth will be hidden. If you read the bible with an open heart and faith then the bible will become clear as a bell through the Holy Spirit. When you read the bible it ill be as if a veil was lifting and all is crystal clear.

You don't need anyone explaining the bible or interpreting it. The Holy Spirit will do that.

You can download the Pure Word of God here for free. [link to www.bibleprotector.com]
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Re: Why is the bible so confusing. Shouldn't it be simple to understand so all people can follow?
Imagine that you own an `85 Honda Accord, but that your only reference materials are written for a `53 Packard Constellation.

SOME of it would be reasonably 'applicable' to your situations, but much of it would be so far from what you could see actually going on (under the hood, say) that it could only BE confusing...
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Why is the bible so confusing. Shouldn't it be simple to understand so all people can follow?

Who do you think "wrote" the Bible and how do you think the "churches' have been making a living off the people for so long ... Same story with the politicians and lawyers regarding "laws" and "regulations".


There's nothing to follow, it is a book of ancient mythology and nothing more.
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Re: Why is the bible so confusing. Shouldn't it be simple to understand so all people can follow?
It's only confusing to the lost, consider yourself lost.

It's highly structured, you'd be shown if you were not lost.

It's along these lines:
Luke 8:10 And he said, Unto you it is given to know the mysteries of the kingdom of God: but to others in parables; that seeing they might not see, and hearing they might not understand.

To you it's a big parable, it's all confusing and stuff because it's not been given you to understand, probably because you're very horrible people, that's usually the case.
If you surrender you will get know all the stuff, it's awesome.

Luke 11:9 And I say unto you, Ask, and it shall be given you; seek, and ye shall find; knock, and it shall be opened unto you.

But looking at the attitude of the thread you morans will never be shown. You morans already decided your path, don't forget to bring the 5 million sun block cream you'll need it.

It's a closed book for some, just like parts was closed to Daniel (but Daniel was not lost like you people)

Daniel 12:9 And he said, Go thy way, Daniel: for the words are closed up and sealed till the time of the end.


And to those that want to understand:
[link to biblebelievers.com]
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You will have no understanding unless you have Faith in Him.
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Re: Why is the bible so confusing. Shouldn't it be simple to understand so all people can follow?
You will have no understanding unless you have Faith in Him.
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That's one of the secrets.
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Faith is for those who fail at logic.
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Re: Why is the bible so confusing. Shouldn't it be simple to understand so all people can follow?
OP have you read in order how it is supposed to be read?
ISAIAH 28:10
Genesis 1:1 - Revelation 22:21
Then you will see the fashion of the pattern.
How would you read any great book, start to finish.
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Re: Why is the bible so confusing. Shouldn't it be simple to understand so all people can follow?
You will have no understanding unless you have Faith in Him.
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That's one of the secrets.
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Faith is for those who fail at logic.
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"Faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen.
Through it the elder obtained a good report."
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It's pretty straightforward to me, though Revelation is obviously confusing in it's coded language.
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Re: Why is the bible so confusing. Shouldn't it be simple to understand so all people can follow?
go check out jonathankleck on you tube. he helps alot in this matter. makes the bible make sence. WE HAVE BEEN LIED TO BY MAINSTREAM CHURCHES
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Re: Why is the bible so confusing. Shouldn't it be simple to understand so all people can follow?
It's pretty straightforward to me, though Revelation is obviously confusing in it's coded language.
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That Revelation part will be clear enough when we see some of those events take place. Wait...
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Re: Why is the bible so confusing. Shouldn't it be simple to understand so all people can follow?
Seems to me the bible is an distraction by itself. Just like the politicians today. They tell you things that sound complex so that you can't fully understand it. That's why you rely on your leader because you think they are smarter than you.

The same is with the bible. It makes your life looks complicated so you will feel small. And you listen to the religion leaders because you think by doing so you will make your god happy.

Sound like the same? It is to me.
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Have you read the bible though. Not being read the bible, not being told about the bible, but actually physically sitting down and reading a whole book of the bible? It is actually quite straight forward.
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Re: Why is the bible so confusing. Shouldn't it be simple to understand so all people can follow?
The words are irrelevant in light of [link to meru.org]
The 'story' is a yoga.
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Re: Why is the bible so confusing. Shouldn't it be simple to understand so all people can follow?
The bible is written from God's point of view, not man's, the original texts were written so that the people could understand it, trouble is that it was written for people 3000 years ago.

We too, try to read the bible according to our own 'Greek' culture, but the bible is written in 'Hebrew' culture.

Greeks condemn people for not achieving set goals, ignoring what the bits they have achieved, only looking at what they have not done.

Hebrews congratulate people for what they have achieved, and help them to achieve more.

'Greek' culture looks at the abstract, 'Hebrew' culture looks at the 'concrete'.

Also, most of the translations are very limited....
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Re: Why is the bible so confusing. Shouldn't it be simple to understand so all people can follow?
Seems to me the bible is an distraction by itself. Just like the politicians today. They tell you things that sound complex so that you can't fully understand it. That's why you rely on your leader because you think they are smarter than you.

The same is with the bible. It makes your life looks complicated so you will feel small. And you listen to the religion leaders because you think by doing so you will make your god happy.

Sound like the same? It is to me.
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If you are really serious about reading the bible, you need to ask the Lord to send the holy spirit to help you. If you are saved already, then you already have the holy spirit living in you so all you have to do is ask God to give you wisdom as you are reading. Unsaved people can't just pick up the bible and start reading and understand everything they are reading.

1 Corinthians 2:14
But the natural man receiveth not the things of the spirit of God for they are foolishness unto him. Neither can he know them for they are spiritually discerned.

When I was an atheist, I decided to pick up a bible and read it and see what the "hoopla" was about. Needless to say, that lasted about 5 minutes. (Several different times)I didn't have a christian to seek advice from back then. Some people can come on here and bash christians all they want to but some people really appreciate the knowledge and wisdom that some christians have.

Once I got saved and then picked up my bible, it was a totally different story. I'm not talking "mind" saved, but to be "heart" saved. There is a difference in the two. After that, I couldn't get enough of the word. It was like milk to baby!
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Re: Why is the bible so confusing. Shouldn't it be simple to understand so all people can follow?
Jesus often spoke in parables. The prophecies use symbols that transcend time. Also some have been blinded by their own willful rejection. Once the person accepts the Holy Spirit guides for better understanding.

(According as it is written, God has given them the spirit of slumber, eyes that they should not see, and ears that they should not hear;) to this day. Romans 11:8
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Forget the bible and religion, but take these three valuable words from it:

Love thy neighbor.
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Re: Why is the bible so confusing. Shouldn't it be simple to understand so all people can follow?
I've read it, and can confidently tell you that it is no more real than the mythology of any other ancient culture.
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Re: Why is the bible so confusing. Shouldn't it be simple to understand so all people can follow?
Seems to me the bible is an distraction by itself. Just like the politicians today. They tell you things that sound complex so that you can't fully understand it. That's why you rely on your leader because you think they are smarter than you.

The same is with the bible. It makes your life looks complicated so you will feel small. And you listen to the religion leaders because you think by doing so you will make your god happy.

Sound like the same? It is to me.
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I seek refuge in Allah from the outcast Satan
In the name of Allah, the Beneficent, the Merciful
Praise be to Allah, Lord of the Worlds,
The Beneficent, the Merciful.
Owner of the Day of Judgment,
Thee (alone) we worship; Thee (alone) we ask for help.
Guide us on the straight path,
The path of those whom Thou hast favored;
Not (the path) of those who earn Thine anger nor of those who go astray.
(Qur'an 1 : 1-7)
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Re: Why is the bible so confusing. Shouldn't it be simple to understand so all people can follow?
Do you want a simple and straight forward answer that you can understand, OP? That is what you are looking for, correct? An answer that you couldn't possibly misunderstand? OK. "Ask and ye shall receive."

"He who belongs to God hears what God says. The reason you do not hear is that you do not belong to God." -John 8:47
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Do you want a simple and straight forward answer that you can understand, OP? That is what you are looking for, correct? An answer that you couldn't possibly misunderstand? OK. "Ask and ye shall receive."

"He who belongs to God hears what God says. The reason you do not hear is that you do not belong to God." -John 8:47
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There is no one who is not "of God," as we are all manifestations of divine consiousness. The Bible is ancient mythology, nothing more.
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Re: Why is the bible so confusing. Shouldn't it be simple to understand so all people can follow?
the Truth is simple;
all religion's beliefs (including the 'bible') are opinions, assumptions and very confusing. the writers wrote it that way.

there's no correct/right version of the 'bible' > it's not the Word of God.
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Do you want a simple and straight forward answer that you can understand, OP? That is what you are looking for, correct? An answer that you couldn't possibly misunderstand? OK. "Ask and ye shall receive."

"He who belongs to God hears what God says. The reason you do not hear is that you do not belong to God." -John 8:47
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There is no one who is not "of God," as we are all manifestations of divine consiousness. The Bible is ancient mythology, nothing more.
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DITTO !!!
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Re: Why is the bible so confusing. Shouldn't it be simple to understand so all people can follow?
It's only confusing to the lost, consider yourself lost.

It's highly structured, you'd be shown if you were not lost.

It's along these lines:
Luke 8:10 And he said, Unto you it is given to know the mysteries of the kingdom of God: but to others in parables; that seeing they might not see, and hearing they might not understand.

To you it's a big parable, it's all confusing and stuff because it's not been given you to understand, probably because you're very horrible people, that's usually the case.
If you surrender you will get know all the stuff, it's awesome.

Luke 11:9 And I say unto you, Ask, and it shall be given you; seek, and ye shall find; knock, and it shall be opened unto you.

But looking at the attitude of the thread you morans will never be shown. You morans already decided your path, don't forget to bring the 5 million sun block cream you'll need it.

It's a closed book for some, just like parts was closed to Daniel (but Daniel was not lost like you people)

Daniel 12:9 And he said, Go thy way, Daniel: for the words are closed up and sealed till the time of the end.


And to those that want to understand:
[link to biblebelievers.com]
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You will have no understanding unless you have Faith in Him.
Zilch. Nada. Zero.
That's one of the secrets.
 Quoting: Truth101 1520255


Seems to me the bible is an distraction by itself. Just like the politicians today. They tell you things that sound complex so that you can't fully understand it. That's why you rely on your leader because you think they are smarter than you.

The same is with the bible. It makes your life looks complicated so you will feel small. And you listen to the religion leaders because you think by doing so you will make your god happy.

Sound like the same? It is to me.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 937745


If you are really serious about reading the bible, you need to ask the Lord to send the holy spirit to help you. If you are saved already, then you already have the holy spirit living in you so all you have to do is ask God to give you wisdom as you are reading. Unsaved people can't just pick up the bible and start reading and understand everything they are reading.

1 Corinthians 2:14
But the natural man receiveth not the things of the spirit of God for they are foolishness unto him. Neither can he know them for they are spiritually discerned.

When I was an atheist, I decided to pick up a bible and read it and see what the "hoopla" was about. Needless to say, that lasted about 5 minutes. (Several different times)I didn't have a christian to seek advice from back then. Some people can come on here and bash christians all they want to but some people really appreciate the knowledge and wisdom that some christians have.

Once I got saved and then picked up my bible, it was a totally different story. I'm not talking "mind" saved, but to be "heart" saved. There is a difference in the two. After that, I couldn't get enough of the word. It was like milk to baby!
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These sum it up for me. Comprehending Scripture is a spiritual endeavor.
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Re: Why is the bible so confusing. Shouldn't it be simple to understand so all people can follow?
Religion and politics follow the same model, obey or face the consequences. They are the same thing, and neither has much to do with freedom but everything to do with control.
No one is perfect. A babe before walking will first stumble and fall many times but NEVER gives up until he succeeds.

Always remember, ultimately, to never follow any person's belief. Your relationship with God is between you and God.

If nothing else, remember this: religion = subservience, control and conformity, the same template as EVERY government

"Most believers would kill truth if truth threatened their religion." L. K. Washburn

"This crime called blasphemy was invented by priests for the purpose of defending doctrines not able to take care of themselves." Robert Ingersoll

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Exodus 21:20-21



20 “Anyone who beats their male or female slave with a rod must be punished if the slave dies as a direct result, 21 but they are not to be punished if the slave recovers after a day or two, since the slave is their property.






THAT IS FUCKING CONFUSING....IS THIS THE WORD OF MY GOD, HELL NO!
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It actually is simple to read and understand, for chrisitans.

They say that once they become a christian, the holy spirit enters them and translates for them and that this is how it was meant to be for them.
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Exodus 21:20-21



20 “Anyone who beats their male or female slave with a rod must be punished if the slave dies as a direct result, 21 but they are not to be punished if the slave recovers after a day or two, since the slave is their property.






THAT IS FUCKING CONFUSING....IS THIS THE WORD OF MY GOD, HELL NO!
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