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I am a member of an Elite Family who you despise...ask me a question

 
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We have become vain in our imaginations, our hearts darkening our minds. Yes, we have bathed in the lusts of our own hearts and changed the truth from Jesus into a lie; worshipping and serving the creature (soul) more than the creator (the Father).

Come now and learn about the Other Earth, about our Father who awaits for the return home of the prodigal son. If you do not fast from the world, you will not find the (Father's) kingdom. When the Father is in the Son, and the Son is in the Father, this is the "Kingdom of Heaven".

Give a command to yourself; begin to know yourself and to speak from the mind which is the Father's creation.

Now it is fitting that your mind re-aligns itself and becomes again as it formerly was. The mind will move of its own accord as it receives the divine nature from the Father for its conversion, restoring it to its original consciousness. This is the resurrection from the dead. This is the ransom from captivity. This is the upward journey, the return to heaven. This is the Way, the ascent to the Father.

It is therefore fitting to pray to the Father and to call upon him with all our mind; not externally with the lips but with the mind which is inward, which is drawn up from the depths of hell, sighing, repenting for the life it has been living, confessing its sins, perceiving the empty deception it has been living. weeping over how it is in darkness, mourning for its self that the Father might have pity on it, hating itself for what it has become. For as Jesus says in Matthew 5:4, "Blessed are they that mourn: for they shall be comforted." . . . and in Matthew 5:6, "Blessed are they which do hunger and thirst after righteousness: for they shall be filled."

Then Jesus says in Luke 14:26, "If any man come to me, and hate not his father, and mother, and wife, and children, and brethren, and sisters, yea, and his own life (soul), he cannot be my disciple." For the beginning of salvation is repentance, as we read in Acts 13:24, "Before Christ`s appearance came John, preaching the baptism of repentance"; whereas repentance takes place in distress and grief. But the Father is good and loves his creation, and he hears the mind that calls upon him and sends it the light (knowledge) of salvation.

What exists in the MIND of the Father is knowledge, which is revealed so that forgetfulness can be destroyed and we can remember Him. Since forgetfulness exists because we did not remember the Father, if we then come to remember the Father, from that moment on forgetfulness will cease to exist.

Since the perfection of each one of us lays in connecting with the Father, it is necessary for each one of us to ascend to him. And so, if one has this knowledge, he gets what belongs to him by drawing it to himself. For he who is ignorant, is deficient, and it is a great deficiency since he lacks that which will make him complete. Since the perfection of each one of us is in connecting to the Father, it is therefore necessary for each one of us to ascend to him and for each one of us to get the knowledge which is ours.

Yes when we know the Father, incompleteness from that moment on ceases to exist. Just as our ignorance disappears when we gain knowledge, and darkness disappears when light appears, so is incompleteness eliminated by completeness.

You who have ears to hear, and eyes to see, read what Jesus says in John 6:45, "Every man that hath heard, and hath learned of the Father, cometh unto me." And reading John 14:3, "And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come again, and receive you unto myself; that where I am, there ye may be also."

Herein the mystery of God the Father has been revealed. Few there be who find the way to Other Earth. The Father is the Way. To the rest of the people, as Jesus plainly states in John 4:22, "Ye worship ye know not what." Only those who are ready can come to the Father. The rest continue on in their journey towards their time of redemption.

To those who are ready to receive the knowledge and make the mind-Father connection, this knowledge is worth more than land, more than all earthly treasures, more than bread, more than power, more than all the kingdoms of this world and the glory of such ownership, more than anything the soul can offer.

Reading Jesus' words in John 3:13, "And no man hath ascended up to heaven, but he that came down from heaven." and reading John 3:31, "He that cometh from above is above all: he that is of the earth is earthly, and speaketh of the earth."

And reading John 8:47, "He that is of God hearth God's word: ye therefore hear them not, because ye are not of God, but of your father the devil." That is why reading you see not, and listening you hear not, neither can you understand: least at any time you perceive and turn from your father the devil (the soul)."

Jesus came to guide us in understanding; to show us the evil things of this world and how to get to the Other Earth. Reading Luke 11:13, "If ye then, BEING EVIL, know how to give good gifts unto your children; how much more shall your heavenly Father give the Holy Spirit to them that ask him?" Turn from this earthly death and reconnect with the Father who is waiting to bring you back home to the Other Earth.

We must seek out the knowledge of Other Earth from our Father. If we do not, then the promise of Jesus cannot be fulfilled, "Seek and ye shall find". Ask your Father and you shall receive - THAT - is the promise.

Herein are the words of God the Father fulfilled. The soul is good and evil. It uses the duality of good & evil to achieve its goals. Not knowing of the possible connection with the Father, everyone is born and learns the soul is good for food, that its whisperings are pleasant, that it is designed to make one wise to the things of this world.

The soul's burning desire is the flaming sword which turns every which way, leading away our thinking, to keep us from turning upwards to the Father, the Tree of Life. Reading Hebrews 4:12, "For the word of God (the Father) is quick, and powerful, and sharper than any two-edged sword, piercing even to the dividing asunder of soul and spirit and of the joints and marrow, and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart. Submit yourselves therefore to God (the Father). Resist the devil (soul), and he will flee from you." - James 4:7

Yes it is the soul-mind connection that gives the soul its energy. Break the connection and you stop the flow of energy causing the soul to lose control (but not without a fight). That is why conversion is a slow process of breaking the connection for longer and longer periods of time until finally you have enough power to sever it once and for all - and the soul loses control.

Re-connecting with the Father separates the mind from the soul, and the power of the soul becomes naught, and the soul connection endures but for a little while until it is brought unto desolation. For how can you stop the soul-mind connection unless you forge that more righteous, more powerful connection with the Father?

We are raised up from the dead, the soul, by the knowledge of the Father, to walk in the newness of a new life: we are born again of a new connection.

Rise up to your Father's house. Do not let that evil soul drag you back down to fulfill its desires. Turn to your Father for Guidance, not the devil below.

Do not concern yourself with your past evil: let the phrase, "go and sin no more" echo in your mind. Turn to the Father for help. He knows everything you have gone through, and are about to go through. He is a loving Father who waits for you to turn to him for his assistance. Yes turn to the righteous path and your Father will pull back the curtain and let you see those things of soul which soul does not want you to see.

To be soul-minded is death, but to be Father-minded is Life and Peace. The soul-mind connection is from below and in juxoposition to the Father-mind connection which is from above. The soul-mind connection is of this world and does the things of this world; the Father-mind connection is from above and does the things of Other Earth.

There are only two possible choices we can make: to continue on living with the soul of good and evil and eating of its fruit, or make the mind-Father connection and eat from his Knowledge of Life. No one can maintain both connections at the same time; soul-mind and mind-Father. We can only make one connection or the other. Reading Matthew 6:24, "No man can serve two masters: for either he will hate the one, and love the other; or else he will hold to the one, and despise the other. Ye cannot serve God and mammon."

Reading Hebrews 10:34, "Ye have in heaven a better and an enduring substance (the Father)."

One connection, the soul-mind connection, is a life of bondage and death; the other connection, the mind-Father connection, is an adoption into the Freedom of Life Eternal. We have been placed here to become free independent right thinking individuals. This world is the schoolroom; the soul our taskmaster. If you are ready to graduate, turn to the Father. If you are not ready, you are not ready. It doesn't get any simpler than that!

The Father continuously searches the heart to which its creation, the mind, has become attached. The Father knows when the mind is ready to separate and reconnect with its' creator.

Is this your lifetime of the quickening; the lifetime of your awakening; the return home of the prodigal son? Begin to break the soul-mind connection by forging the mind-Father connection and discover the truth for yourself.

Reading Galatians 1:4, "Who gave himself for our sins, that he might deliver us from this present evil world, according to the will of God and our Father." For as Jesus says in John 7:7 "The world cannot hate you; but me it hateth, because I testify of it, that the works thereof are evil." Reading John 15, versus 18,25 and 19: "If the world hate you, ye know that it hated me before it hated you. They hated me without a cause. If ye were of the world, the world would love its own: but because ye are not of the world, therefore the world hates you."

In the end it's all about breaking the connection between soul & mind and making the connection between mind & Father, such that when the body dies and releases us the Father draws us back home to Other Earth.

We are raised up from the dead, the soul, only by the knowledge of the Father. To walk in the newness of a new life we must become born again by this new connection. We all will remain sinners unless we forge this new birth, the mind-Father connection. For we are born of this earth with the soul-mind connection, but to reach the Other Earth we must be born again of the mind-Father connection. Turn from this earthly death and reconnect with the Father who is waiting to bring you back home to the Other Earth.

If Jesus and the Father are ONE,
then isn't it logical that
the FATHER is the Savior?

Just as we have all shared in the same death of the soul-mind connection, eventually we shall all share in the same resurrection from the soul consciousness to the Christ consciousness of the Father: and the soul shall have no more dominion over us.

Reading Jesus' words in John 16:28, "I came forth from the Father, and I am come into the world: AGAIN, I leave the world, and go to the Father." (AGAIN - what might this word imply?)

If we become born again, it is the Father's mind that will re-connect to our mind.

In a hidden and incomprehensible wisdom the Father has kept this knowledge until the end time, until his lost sheep have become weary in searching for the truth; which no one has ever found through his own efforts.

Now, do the will of the Father, for you are from him. As Jesus says in Luke 10:22, "All things are delivered (revealed) to me of my Father: and no man knoweth who the son is, but the Father; and who the Father is, but the son, and he to whom the son will reveal him." And reading Matthew 5:16, "Let your light so shine before men, that they may see your good works, and glorify YOUR Father which is in heaven." And Matthew 5:48, "Be ye therefore Perfect, even as YOUR Father which is in heaven is Perfect."

The FATHER is the true God, our creator. We are a part of the Father. The Father is the creator of you. You must become like your Father, perfect, such that he can rejoin with you. You are like the prodigal son who left home and wasted his time in earthly living: lying, stealing, cheating, back biting, slandering, gossiping, whore mongering, murderous, etcetera. He hears every dirty little thought we think, and sees every dirty little thing we do. He has always been watching us. We are a part of him. He is our creator. We came forth as mind from MIND - created in his image.

Therefore arise and go to your Father, and say unto him, "Father, I have sinned against heaven, and before thee, and I am no more worthy to be called thy son: make me as one of thy hired servants."(Luke 15:18-19) In other words - Repent!

Now reading John 14:26 and John 15:26; know that if we realize that we are sinners, and turn to the Father for help, he shall send us the Comforter, his spirit (thoughts) of truth, and the thoughts shall teach us all things concerning right-mindedness; and we shall stop doing evil for evil.

Thoughts from the Father are the 'comforter' of the Father, that voice of the Father which told you not to do that thing. That thought which you heard, but then let the soul talk you out of listening to, and you then exclaimed in hindsight- "I should have listened to my first hunch." Look to John 14:17 and know that we must "seek" the voice of truth, that the voice which shall "comfort" us: the voice of truth that dwells within us.

However, as you seek inside yourself, you will hear many voices coming up from the soul. Therefore, take heed to Jesus' words in 1John 4:1 and 5, reading, "Beloved, believe not every voice, but try the voices whether they are of God (MIND) or of The Power of Satan (soul)." AND THIS IS how you shall know the voice of truth from the voices of Error: the voices not from MIND, they are of this World and therefore speak of things concerning this World. The voice of truth is only concerned with breaking the soul-mind connection, to help you stop sinning, and in taking you back home to Other Earth.

Take heed and beware: certain people will quote the Bible and say, "Show us a sign that we might believe." And this is the evil soul-mind connection at work, for if you give a dozen such signs it will not change the soul-mind connection; and so whatever you do, these people will not believe.

It is an evil and adulterous soul that seeks after signs, for if no signs are given, it becomes justified in its beliefs; and if signs are given, it is the work of the devil - or some other such imagination from below to again justify what the soul believes. No matter what anyone says or shows to these people, the queen of the south rises up in judgment against them and condemns them because they are not of the soul-mind connection. Yea, though your mother and your brothers and your sisters, your own flesh and blood desire you to stop this insane thinking, it is because you are no longer of their design. You need to seek out and find your new family; those who have likewise developed the mind-Father connection, they are your brothers and your sisters. Yes take heed and beware, the souls of others will recognize the mind-Father connection within you, and so, not being one of them, they will turn against you. For as you have seen in this world, the man loveth his own kind and associates with like-minded people.

Jesus hath told us that our Father seeth in Secret; so enter into thy closet and pray to your Father in Secret. But do not pray for earthly things; for your Father knoweth what earthly things you have need of before you can ask. Pray for Understanding and Wisdom. Reading Proverbs 4:7, "Wisdom is the principal thing; therefore get wisdom: and with all thy getting get understanding" ... and reading Proverbs 16:16, "How much better is it to get wisdom than gold! and to get understanding rather to be chosen than silver!"

Know now that your heavenly Father will give you the Holy Spirit, the voice of truth if you but ask (see Luke 11:13). Yes ask and you shall receive; that is the promise. But know that when given, it is not your thoughts which speak to you, but the voice of your Father which speaketh in you (Matthew 10:20). Knock and the door to the Father shall be opened unto you. Seek and ye shall find the Father within. These are the teachings given by Jesus.

Come now, inherit the Kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world. Listen to your Father's voice of truth. Love your Father. Do his Will that he gives you to do; this is the way to Other Earth (Matthew 7:21). Again I say, and remember this, "Do not be led astray by the voices of the Power of Satan; for those voices speak concerning the things of this world."

Read John 17:11 & John 17:21-23 and know that you are to join with your Father, just as Jesus joined with his Father, that you too may have the joy Jesus has. You are made perfect when you connect with your Father, and then you are no longer the servant of soul.

You are the vine and your Father is the husbandman. Be therefore perfect as your Father who art in heaven awaiting your reunion. Let your Knowledge shine forth in this world as the son in the Kingdom of your Father (Matthew 13:43). Glorify your Father which art on Other Earth by bearing much fruit.

You who have ears to hear, and eyes to see, Jesus says in John 6:45, "Every man that hath heard, and hath learned of the Father, cometh unto me." So, reading Matthew 5:16, "Let your light (knowledge) so shine before men, that they may see your good works, and glorify your Father which is in heaven. Then shall the righteous shine forth as the sun in the Kingdom of their Father. Who hath ears to hear, let him hear." - Matthew 13:43

Jesus teachings are here on this Web site. If you really want to know what he was teaching, here it is. You see he was not teaching religion, building churches, collecting a following and tithing. What he was teaching involved only you and your Father; no religious infrastructure is needed. You don't need churches, religious leaders, icons, books, rituals, or anything else once you know how to make contact with the Father who will guide you in all things righteous. So can you see why the religious leaders of his time, just like the religious leaders of today, might not like these teachings.

Now we would like to show you these passages in Matthew 22:41-46, "While the Pharisees were gathered together, Jesus asked them saying - What think ye of Christ? whose son is he? They said unto him, The son of David. And Jesus said unto them, How then does David IN SPIRIT call him Lord, saying, The Lord said unto my Lord ... if David call him Lord; how is he his son? And no Pharisee was able to answer Jesus a word, neither did any Pharisee from that day forth ask Jesus any more questions." You see, David was talking to his Father who was talking to Jesus' Father. No, Jesus' teachings plus his demonstration of the Christ power from his Father through him were true, and from that day forth they plotted to dispose of him.

The children of Satan do run this world and will do anything, I repeat - anything, to keep these teachings from spreading among the masses. Just as Jesus said in his time, reading Matthew 23:13, "But woe unto you, Scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! For ye shut up the Kingdom of heaven against men: (by keeping this knowledge of the soul and the Father from them) for ye neither go in yourselves, neither suffer them that are entering (who would enter) to go in."

You see if we want to return home, we are going to have to fight for it. But remember, we have to be as wise as those serpents, yet as harmless as doves. This is not a physical fight, for this is Satan's world and you will surely lose. This is a mental fight against all of soul's pre-programmed religious and educational beliefs, and those souls around us.

We will have to stand against our friends and family who will tell us that these teachings as stated here are wrong, pure nonsense, taken out of context. They will tell us to follow the masses that all these people can't be wrong or the church officials would have told us. This is the same "mass-conscious-knowing" like when the world was flat, the sun orbited the earth, the moon was made of cheese, and so on and so forth until EXPERIENCE proved otherwise! And that's where their teachings fall apart and Jesus' teachings show true. Religion says "believe" and have "faith." Jesus says, here is the proof of what I say, connect with the Father and EXPERIENCE the truth for yourself!

Experience will set you free from these inherited beliefs of your ancestors which only serve to keep you in Darkness and Bondage to Satan's world. After all, if you're not in Heaven - Why aren't you? Let your own "personal experiences" be your knowledge, not those fables, stories and religious doctrines and dogmas which have been handed down from generation to generation.

The guiding light, people of the earth world, the guiding knowledge of truth, our own guiding light that will guide us comes from and through the knowledge of the Father. We are the ones to come closer into the knowledge of the Father, the Knowledge of the Father that will ever guide us right as we reach for and seek him, but we cannot receive his knowledge as long as we continue to focus our efforts only on earth earthly things.

The major problem with reading to learn the truth is that we become so immersed in the literature, in the soul-knowing information, the information itself becomes an obstacle and hindrance from applying it to ourself. Soul's Illusion is in the delusion that because we have knowledge, we think we have changed. This is a GREAT lie.

Remember, books are a part of this physical world,and the reading thereof is just more earthly work; just as reading this is just more eartly work that leads nowhere. By reading, your ability to understand other concepts is limited by those concepts which are created by the imaginations of other souls; and so you perceive their thoughts, not those of your Father. And so you become lost in "the letter which killeth truth". Remember what Jesus said? "It is the spirit (the Father's comforter) which quickeneth, the flesh (soul) profiteth nothing."

No person can tell you the truth such that you can fully understand. No, you must experience the truth for yourself; otherwise how will you know if it's true? And if it's true, it must be true for everyone. And so we give you the way of proving to yourself that which we have been given. We say don't believe them and don't believe us. Connect with the Father and you will have all proof you need to know.

Yes physical reading keeps us from applying and experiencing the truth. It is the Spirit (Mind) Within that quickens our discernment and understanding of the Truth. It is by making contact with the Father that brings us the proof, and the Father's knowledge can only be received by going within.

Yes, "Go Within" echoes down through the corridors of time but few there be who have found the way. We must take that first brave step and go beyond those religious boundaries; step outside the container that our souls are holding us in. Reading Psalms 46:10, "Be still and know that I am God." Yes learn the way to make contact with your Father.

To find the Truth of what we say, you must have a strong yearning to want to find the Truth. You must persistently search for the Truth. You must continually work at being able to detach yourself from your the soul-mind connection. You must be able to quiet your mind; to stop soul from dragging it off in various directions and flipping it from one thought to another. You must control your emotions, especially when you begin connecting with the Father or the emotion will break the connection. Rember, you cannot serve God and mammon at the same time.

We must get rid of those childhood ideas of God which have been instilled in us from birth by Church, State, family and friends. We must learn to look directly at life with a clear mind and not with the predilections and preconceptions of our religious soul. Let us not become "puffed-up" that we have found the Truth, and Remember,


Truth without APPLICATION is Nothing.

Seek the Father; not because He will take you back home, but because you can help many more return home. We seek no reward, for no reward shall be given. We seek the Father so that we can help our brothers and sisters who likewise walk in Darkness. We do not seek to perform miracles or phenomena or have the power to do unusual things. If we are to have these secondary gifts, for a purpose, then they will be given. Our first and foremost concern is to connect with the Father, and then to teach others How To Do the same. Everything else is secondary and of little importance. For what does it profit a sick man to be physically healed and remain a captive of his own soul? - Will he not eventually get sick again and die?

Give freely that which has been freely given to you and the connection shall grow stronger. Every effort you put forth to aid in the Great Work, aids you in strengthening your connection; for then are you doing the will of your Father.

Remember Jesus' promise, "Behold, I stand at the door and knock. If any hear me, let him open the door and I will come in." . . . and remember the words written in Hebrews 3:19, "So we see that they could not enter in BECAUSE of Unbelief."

In the beginning was the Knowledge,
and the Knowledge was with the MIND,
and the Knowledge was the MIND.

And ALL things were made by the Knowledge:
and without the Knowledge
was not anything made that was made.

Now in the Knowledge was Life eternal;
and the Life was the Knowledge of men.
The true Knowledge which teacheth every man
that cometh into the World.

And this is the condemnation;
that Knowledge is come into the world,
but men love Ignorance
rather than Knowledge.

But we are all Children of Knowledge.
So let us cast off the works of Ignorance,
and let us put on the armour of Knowledge.

Let us show forth the praises of him
who hath called us out of Ignorance
into his marvelous Knowledge.

Let us be a guide to the blind
who sit in Ignorance
and in the shadow of death:
to guide their feet
into the way of Peace.

This then is the message;
that God is MIND,
and in him is no Ignorance at all.

And as many as are ready to receive the Knowledge
to them,
the Father gives the Knowledge of
how to become
the sons of MIND.


Come inherit the Kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world.

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If you cannot see or hear these words it is because you walk after the desires of this world, after the desires of your soul. You walk after the imaginations of the god of this world. In your heart you seek riches, wealth, honor, long life, and all the desirable things of this world. Your hope is set upon this world, and your god is your soul. Your soul is corrupting you. Will you cease from loving the flesh?

If our eyes do not see and our ears do not hear, it is because our hearts cannot perceive the things that are not of this world. And so it is the heart that turns us away from such matters to pursue the things of this world. To feed it's insatiable appetite the soul walks after the eyes, after the ears, after the tastes and smells, and after the touch. The physical senses do entice the soul. The soul lusts after those things which bring pleasure to the flesh of its human design.

The heart is continually deep in thought. The soul's imagination is a well that cannot run dry. Irrigation by this world adds to it daily while we are awake, and nightly while we dream. There will be no hope so long as we walk after the vices which have been created by the imagination of our heart. The contents of our heart, patiently lie in wait for the opportune moment to pounce.

Behold: to learn about the soul, that is understanding; to depart from its evil, that is wisdom. Souls love souls, and each soul uses each other soul to help in maintaining control of our mind. This is the world of Satan, of soul; an eye for an eye, a tooth for a tooth. Vengeance is mine says the soul of man. Our enemy comes forth out of our own bowels. Reading James 4:7, "Submit yourselves therefore to God (the Father). Resist the devil (soul), and he will flee from you."

It is the soul that destroys our hopes, our dreams, and keeps us in captivity. Our soul's wickedness is great, and its iniquities infinite. For what our soul desires, that we do. Our soul walks after our eyes, unstable, with covetous practices, following in its pernicious ways, self-willed, presumptuous. The soul provides manifold temptations. The soul's survival rests in keeping us in darkness (ignorance).

And these are soul's four passions: pleasure (from pleasure much wickedness arises; empty pride and similar things.), desire (from desire comes anger, wrath, bitterness, bitter passion, unsettledness, and similar things.), grief (from grief comes envy, jealousy, distress, trouble, pain, callousness, anxiety, mourning, etc.), fear (from fear comes dread, fawning, agony, and shame.). All of these are useful things as well as evil things, but the insight into their true character is wisdom, for they belong to the soul.

We do not recognize the deceitfulness of our soul, for it casts into our mind evil thoughts as good ones, and hypocrisy in the guise of true wisdom, avidity in the guise of conservative frugality, love of glory in the guise of that which is beautiful, boastfulness and pride in the guise of great austerity, and godlessness as great godliness.

Our soul casts spurious knowledge into our mind in the guise of mysterious words. As such, who can comprehend its thoughts and devices, which are varied, since it is a Great God for those who wish to accept it as King? How can we comprehend the schemes of this one, or its mind darkening counsels? For its devices and the schemes of its wickedness are many. And think about its entrances into your mind, that is, how it can gain entrance into your mind, and in what garments it can appear to you as good. Become sober from the drunkenness, from the darkness of your soul-mind connection. It is from the overflow of the heart that evil is produced, and ignorance produces all evil. Reading John 8:32, "If you know the truth, the truth will make you free."

The soul is the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, and you are eating from that tree. Rise up and eat from the Tree of Life that you may live forever. Reading Romans 12:2, "Be not conformed to this world: but be ye transformed by the renewing of your mind." For those who are to be taught, the living that are inscribed in the book of the living, learn for themselves, receiving instruction from the Father, turning to him again.

Since the perfection of the self is in the Father, it is necessary for the self to ascend to him. Therefore, if one has knowledge, he gets what belongs to him and draws it to himself. For he who is ignorant, is deficient, and it is a great deficiency since he lacks that which will make him perfect. Since the perfection of the self is in the Father, it is necessary for you to ascend to him and for you to get the things which are yours.

What exists in the Father is knowledge, knowledge that is revealed so forgetfulness can be destroyed and we can know the Father again. Since forgetfulness existed because we did not know the Father, if we then come to know the Father, from that moment on forgetfulness will cease to exist. Through the Father we are enlightened.

Woe to you who rely on things that will not happen! Your hope is set upon this world, and your god is this life! You have become corrupted by your soul. For every soul of these ages has death assigned to it. You are always a slave to the soul, since the soul has been created to fulfill its desires. Verily, we say unto you, none of you who fear death will be saved; for the kingdom belongs to those who will put their soul-mind connection to death.

As long as we keep running about everywhere copulating with those souls we meet and defiling ourselves with their contents, we will exist suffering our just desserts. But when we perceive the straits the soul has placed us in, and weep before the Father AND Repent, then the Father will have mercy on us and he will make the connection. Thus it is by being born again from the soul-mind connection that we will be saved.

It is therefore fitting to pray to the Father and to call on him with all our mind - not externally with our lips, but inwardly with our mind. Come up from the depths of Satan, sighing, repenting for the life you have lived. Confess your sins; perceive the empty deception the soul has kept you in; weep over how you have been kept in darkness; mourn for your wrong doings that he might have pity on you; hate yourself for how you have become. For as Jesus said in Matthew 5:4 and Luke 6:12; "Blessed are those who mourn, for it is they who will be pitied; blessed, those who are hungry, for it is they who will be filled." And again reading Luke14:26, "If one does not hate his soul he cannot follow me." For the beginning of salvation is repentance. And thus it is as we read in Acts13:24, "Before Christ's appearance came John, preaching the baptism of repentance." Whereas repentance takes place in distress and grief. However, the Father is good and loves humanity, and he hears the mind that calls upon him and sends it the light (knowledge) of salvation. Just as it is written, through the spirit to the prophet, "Say to the children of my people, If your sins extend from earth to heaven, and if they become red like scarlet and blacker than sackcloth, and if you return to me with all your soul (mind) and say to me my Father, I will heed you as a holy people."


Turning back to the Father is called "repentance".


Do the will of the Father, for you are from him. However, until the death of the soul-mind connection, we must fight against its powers. It is the soul that destroys our hopes, our dreams, and holds us in captivity. If we sin it is the soul that causes us to sin. If we stop sinning, it is us who stops listening to the soul. Know this; learn of the devil deep down inside; go and sin no more. Remember Genesis 8:21, "For the imagination of man's heart (soul) is evil from his youth."

The Father comes to guide us in understanding. He comes to show us the things of this world and how to get to the Other Earth. Turn from this earthly death and reconnect with the Father who is waiting to bring us back home to the Other Earth.


"In patience, possess ye your souls" - Luke 21:19.


Satan hath desired to have you, that he may sift you as wheat; but have faith until thou art converted, then help others in their faith until they be converted. Reading Luke 23:34, "Father, forgive them; for they know not what they do." Yes we need compassion for those still caught in the soul-mind connection, not the evil revenge thinking of an eye for an eye which comes from the soul-mind connection; for what better are we than them if we return evil for evil?

It was Moses' evil heart that taught an eye for an eye and a tooth for a tooth - but Jesus' Father who said, "NAY; for such teachings are of this world. The Father will have mercy, not sacrifice." The Father is love (understanding), not revenge (ignorance). Turn the other cheek; do not evil for evil. Your laws are based on the Old Testament god of this world, not Jesus' New Testament from his Father on Other Earth.

To the hungry soul, every bitter thing is sweet. If thou hast thought evil, lay your hand upon your mouth. Your lips are the snare of your soul. Let not your heart trouble you, for it will try to drag you back down into its bottomless pit of sorrow and anger where all manner of "justification through rationalization" awaits to control your mind. Your heart studies destruction that it may give rise to talk of mischief. As Jesus plainly states in John 4:22, "Ye worship ye know not what."

Through faith a man breaks the lowly connection and forms the divine connection. Like attracts like. Cease from loving the things of this world. Liken yourself to a foreigner; a passers-by; a stranger on this earth.

The eyes do not see and the ears do not hear because the heart cannot perceive the things which are not of this world. And so the heart turneth you away from such matters to pursue the things of this world. The soul lusts after the things which bring pleasure to the flesh of its human design. Romans 12:2, "Be not conformed to this world: but be ye transformed by the renewing of your mind."


Now Read 1 Corinthians 2:9-16


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What does Jesus say about prayer? Jesus says in Matthew 15:7-9, You people talk about my teachings with your mouth, you do honor me with your lips, but you don't do the things I say to do: you hypocrites. In vain you worship me, teaching the commandments of men as my doctrine.

Why do we reject the teachings of Jesus for the superstitions, traditions and teachings of men? Are those old superstitious traditions bringing us happiness and peace of mind? Why do we continue to pay lip service to things we do not do ourselves? Is it we cannot understand because our hearts have hardened our minds with these traditions of men?

As Jesus says in Matthew 7:24-26, Who knows my teachings and Does Them, is a wise man. Who knows my teachings and does them not is a foolish man. If you hear these words and do them, the Father will come unto you and dwell in you and teach you all things; bringing all things to your REMEMBERANCE.

Reading Matthew 6:5-8, When you pray, show no one. Prayer is between you and your Father. DO NOT use vain repetition. DO NOT ask for earthly things; your Father knows what things you need to carry out the things he wants you to do.

Read Matthew 6:9-13. THIS IS A GUIDELINE; an example of prayer. Who turned this example into a vain repetition to be recited in public with bowed heads? Jesus always raised his head, and taught everyone likewise. Like a little child standing before his tall Father, looking upwards.

Our body should be used as a house of prayer to the Father, but we have allowed it to become a den of thieves (Mark 11:17). And reading Matthew 21:31, The body is made available to us as a house of prayer, a vehicle for communication with the Father who can help us to reach the proper understanding, making us fit to be taken to Other Earth. DO NOT continue to waste this opportunity in riotess living; conversion can only happen in an earth body, that is the purpose for its design and the reason we are here.

Reading Mark11:22 and 24, Have faith in your Father. When you pray KNOW that the things you need to do the will of your Father, have already ben given to you. Reading Matthew 21:22, That all things, whatsoever you ask for in prayer, believing, having faith in receiving, you shall receive if you 'doubt not'. However doubt a little, even as much as a tiny little mustered seed, and it will not happen. Remember: Jesus said to HAVE FAITH that the Father hears and will help - as written in John 11:41-42, "And Jesus lifted up his eyes and said, Father, I thank thee that thou hast heard me. And I know that thou hearest me always." You see, Jesus did not always hear the Father; the Father did not always audibly respond; but Jesus KNEW the Father hears EVERY PRAYER and answers accordingly. Did you ever stop to think that your Father has heard everyone of your 'earthly' prayers - but that the answer was "no". However, in John 12:28 there is a record of an auditable reply from Jesus' Father, reading, "There came a voice from heaven, saying, I have both glorified it, AND WILL GLORIFY IT AGAIN."

Jesus tells us which prayers are answered, reading Luke 11:8, Prayers of importunity: those things which you cannot handle or bare; those things which are unendurable or unreasonable for you to bare.

Get your prayers in-line with the work that needs to be done!


Remember Luke 18:13, "Father be merciful to me, a sinner." Reading Luke 15 versus 21,24 and 32: Father I have sinned against you for I was lost but now I have been found again: I was dead in this world but now you have made me alive again and so help me to make my mind straight for the Other World.

Mark 11:25, And when you pray, stand like a little child looking upwards towards the Father, forgive others of their trespasses against you. Forgive those who hate you. Forgive those who use you. Forgive those who steal from you. Forgive those who hurt you. DO NOT return evil for evil, for if you do - what better are you than they? Whatsoever another does against you, remember Jesus words in Luke 23:34, "Father, forgive them, for they know not what they do."

Be about your Father's business. Blessed are they who understand these teachings AND DO THEM.

Reading Luke 17:21 and 18:17, The kingdom of God the Father is within you. But whosoever does not become as a little child, shall not enter into that place of the Father - the holy of holies.

This is your Father. If you do not approach him as a humble little child would approach his father for help, then do you really want his help? It is your child-like faith in your Father's ability to make you whole once again that opens your understanding to these teachings of Jesus. No, not you or me, nor any other man or woman can do this, only the Father.

As Jesus says in John 4:34-35, I do the will of my Father who sent me, and to finish his work. Behold, the fields are always ready to be harvested.

Time to get to work!

I have come into this world to bear witness to the truth of this world. Everyone who is ready, hears my voice. To those who can hear I have come to baptize you with the truth; the truth which can set you free from this world. And you will come to understand my statement, "It is more blessed to give than to receive."

I have come to turn you from the power of Satan below, unto God the Father above, that ye may stop sinning and receive your inheritance on Other Earth. I come unto you, and fight against your soul with the sword of my mouth.

Reading Matthew 4 versus 4,7 and 10: We should live by the words given to us by the Father. We should not tempt the Father. We should pray only to our Father, to do the things he gives us to do.

God the Father is a Spirit (Mind): and they that worship him must worship him in spirit (mind), and in truth (John 4:24). When you have lifted up your mind from the heart, and connected with the Father above, then you shall begin to experience the truth, the truth that shall eventually set you free from that devil, that soul, Satan.

We commit sin because we are the servant of our souls and these words have no place in soul's world. We think, do, and say those things our soul shows us. We are of our father, the soul, and the lusts of our father we will do. We cannot understand these words of God the Father because he is above and we dwell below with that devil, the soul.

If you want God to be your Father you must rise up and dwell with him, resisting the temptations of the devil below. Reading John 16:33, In this world you shall always have tribulations (temptations): but be of good cheer; for as I have overcome this world, so can you. You now know where Satan's seat is, where Satan dwelleth, below. Now you must come to learn of and understand the depths of Satan if you are to overcome that great deceiver - the soul.

With all thy praying, pray for understanding. Reading Matthew 26:41, Pray that ye not enter into the temptations of the soul. Mark 14:38, Watch and pray, lest you enter into temptation. The mind may be ready, but it is weak in experience when it comes to the deceptive techniques of the soul. While we can justify our thoughts, words and deeds through rationalizations from the heart, we cannot deceive our Father who knows the contents of our heart (Luke 16:15).

Reading Luke 22:28, Jesus says to his disciples, "Ye are they which have continued with me in MY TEMPTATIONS." Thus the statement of Jesus in Matthew 19:17, "Why callest thou me good? there is none good but one, that is, God."

In John 17:9, Jesus says, I pray for those who can hear and see: I pray not for this world and the people herein, but for them which thou hast given me; for they are thine, O Father. For they are in this world of soul and need our help.

Reading John 17:8,14,15, I have given them the teachings which the Father gave me and they have understood them; and now, not being of this world, even as I am not of this world, this world hates them. I pray not that you Father should take them out of this world, for there is much work to be done, but that you Father should strengthen them against the temptations, against the evil in their hearts. Strengthen them through your truth O Father. I pray not for those who have believed in me, but also for those who believe in my teachings no matter through whom they may come into this world, that we may all be one on Other Earth, which existed before the foundation of this world. And thus the quote in John 8:58, "Before Abraham was, I am (lived on Other Earth). And reading John 17:5, "O Father, glorify thou me with thine own self, with the glory I had with thee before the world was."

Jesus says in Matthew 5:4,6, The Father shall comfort you. Hunger and thirst after righteousness. Matthew 6:34, Be not thinking so much about the future, but keep focused here in the moment; for today there is much evil rising up from your heart which you must learn about and deal with if you are ever going to become Master of the temple in which you are presently dwelling.

Matthew 20:28, Give up your earthly pursuits of fame and fortune, those illusions of attaining great earthly rewards and give your life to the many who are seeking. Reading Matthew 9:38, Pray ye therefore that the Lord of the Harvest will send forth labourers into his harvest. However, the time will come, as it has before, when the people will seek to derail the truth givers - believing that they doeth God's service because they are ruled by their evil hearts, the same hearts they say are the good in them as they go persecuting the labourers.

There is nothing covered that shall not be revealed; and hid, that shall not be known. However, these things are hidden from the wise and prudent, and only revealed to whomsoever the Father sees ready. This is the way, the truth, and the life. No one cometh unto the Father but by this way shown. If you understand these teachings, happy are you who do them. Peace be unto you. Behold, thou art made whole: sin no more lest a worse thing come unto thee.

Matthew 26:38-39, The soul is always a problem in this world, as we see Jesus not wanting to suffer what he must suffer to fulfill the prophecies of the Old Testament, but in his mind knowing that it must be done. Matthew 26:42, Jesus overcomes his soul once again to say, Father, thy will, will be done. And Matthew 26:44, Again Jesus prayed to the Father to make sure that it was the Will of his Father, and not a deception of his soul. And the confirmation of his praying and understanding is evident as shown in Matthew 26 versus 53,54 and 56.

In Matthew 27:46, Jesus calls to the Father outwardly, not knowing that it is all part of the Father's plan to fulfill the prophecies of the Old Testament with the sponge, vinegar and reed. Reading Luke 23:46, "Father, unto thy hands I commit my spirit (mind)."

Remember, time and time again, Jesus says to pray to the Father lest we enter into temptation.
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Temple, house and household are all synonyms used to refer to the body in which we presently dwell. Many parables were used to hide the teachings of Jesus so people seeing could not see and hearing they could not understand. In Matthew 21: 13, Jesus quotes the Father's saying as recorded in the Old Testament, "It is written, My house shall be called the house of prayer; but ye have made it a den of thieves." And just as Jesus went into his temple and cast out "all them that sold and bought in the temple, and overthrew the tables of the moneychangers, and the seats of them that sold doves," so must we do the same in our Temples.

The body is your house, your Temple. You are the householder and it has been given to you to meet with your creator. This is your opportunity to meet with your Father. Once the body dies and releases you, the opportunity is lost and you must wait for another opportunity (incarnation). Notice we did not say re-incarnation but incarnation. For as Jesus plainly says in Revelation 2:11, "He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the assemblies; He that overcometh shall not be hurt of the second death."

Yes, inside a human body is our opportunity to meet with the creator. Inside a human body is our opportunity to break the soul-mind connection and form the mind-Father connection that will take us back home to Other Earth. While not everyone in a human body is 'ready', none-the-less they are being prepared for a future incarnation when they will meet with the Father.

With the soul-mind connection we spend most of our time 'below' involved in the memories (thoughts) of soul. Our attention is below, captured by those past memories soul wants us to think about most. One word, one sound, one smell, one taste or one touch and we are dragged downwards by the soul connection to re-experience thoughts from the past. We remember things long forgotten, and wish we could forget things just recently experienced. The soul keeps providing past memories (thoughts) to keep our mind ever occupied - turning every which way - to keep us from the Tree of Life. The soul provides all the necessary thoughts to trigger our actions and reactions; our mind jumping around like a monkey on a leash.

This is how most people spend their lives, temporarily in the now, but mostly thinking about past thoughts (experiences). On a rare occasion a person might think about the future, but usually the thinking is just a by-product of the past memories. There is very little original or creative thinking, but then again, out of all fair honesty to the people, how can they do anything different if they don't have the 'know-how', the knowledge to work with. And so, sometimes the simplest things in life seem to baffle our reasoning and confuse our understanding until we personally experience them. Then we exclaim, "How simple. Why couldn't I see that before."

"Go Within" has been the message touted down through the ages, and we thought we knew what this meant. We have been going within and seen the white light. We have been going within and heard the Sound Current. We have seen many worlds, realms and places; lucid vivid colors and wonderful things have we seen by going within. We have been going within and meeting with saints, saviours, masters, angels and loved ones . . . and yet we have been cleverly deceived as we haven't been going within - we have been going out. Many spiritual organizations teach their followers to go out (astral projection, astral travel, soul travel, out-of-body exploration, etc.) even though the message down through the ages has been to "Go Within".

The soul, the devil, that great deceiver Satan is below. God the Father, your creator, is above. Therefore you must learn how to rise up from the soul connection below (in the solar plexus), and make the mind-Father connection above - in the pineal gland (the holy of holies). That's right; you must learn to go within that least understood most speculated upon gland in the human body; centrally located under the brain. This is the place of commune with the Father, and so the need of a physical body to make contact: thus your "opportunity of a thousand lifetimes" (see diagram below).

Pineal Gland Location.

So what does 'rising up' mean? Rising up is moving our mental energy, our focus, our attention from below in the solar plexus, and refocusing our attention above inside the pineal gland underneath the brain. To do this you get seated comfortably, relax, and close your eyes gently. Then "feel" your focus below and move it up from the solar plexus to the third eye, and then move it back - under the brain and into the pineal gland where you sit in the black silence for as long as you can. (The natural tendency is a pull outwards through the third eye or back down to the solar plexus, as this is what you have been doing all your life long, and so this will have to be overcome by practice).

If you are thinking, seeing images, lights, hearing voices, etc. then you are not in the pineal gland but either still in the solar plexus or at the third eye center looking out into the contents of soul. The third eye is soul's deception of spirituality; soul's deception of other worlds, other realms, other planes of existence. The third eye is soul's deception of meeting masters, saints, saviours, angels, gods and goddesses of all kinds - even God. Soul is that great deceiver.

REMEMBER: the message wasn't to go to the third eye and out - it was to GO WITHIN. But with all the illusions of what we wanted to see, what we wanted to hear and those expectations we filled our souls with by reading all those books being provided for us by other lost souls (the blind leading the blind), by going out, why would anyone ever 'think' to go into the dark silence and sit - or want to?

When you have focused your attention correctly you will experience total blackness and total silence. There will be no images, lights, sights, sounds or thoughts of any kind. You will have entered the Nothingness, a state where soul doesn't exist, you will have entered the Holy of Holies wherein the mind-Father connection is made.

When it is over get up and send a loving thought to your Father and, doubt not that your prayer has been heard. Don't think back to your experience but go about your daily business (routine). Remember, seldom did Jesus hear anything - he just 'knew' the Father heard his prayers and would respond accordingly. Reading John 11:41-42, "Father, I thank thee that thou hast heard me. And I knew that thou hearest me always."

Then when temptation (sin/wrong thinking) comes into your mind from the soul-mind connection, rise up to the pineal gland and weather the storm with the strength of the Father. Remember what we read in Matthew 6:34, Be not thinking so much about the future or the past, but keep focused here in the moment; for today there is much evil rising up from our heart which we must learn about and deal with if we are ever going to become Master of the temple in which we are presently dwelling.

After about a month or so of making the mind-Father connection, every day, you will start to notice a transformation coming over you; a calmness and clearness you've never experienced before. Eventually you will want to separate from the soul below and join with the Father above - and then the battle of Armageddon begins. Recalling that you cannot serve two masters at the same time, God and mammon, we can only form one connection; the soul-mind connection or the mind-Father connection.

The restoration process is slow. The mind-Father connection must be made DAILY & when temptation arises, or you will back-slide into the soul-mind connection and the soul will negate any progress you have made by putting 'strange' thoughts into your mind. At every turn, the Soul is there to test our faith in the Father.

The best times to practice the mind-Father connection are;

1. When temptation (wrong thoughts) arise in our minds,
2. At bed time as we fall asleep,
3. During the night whenever we awake, or
4. Any time we have a spare moment.

Keep your attention back, centered in your head, under your brain as often as you can. Move outwards or downwards into the soul (heart) to use the Soul's power as a tool for functioning here in this physical world. (i.e. driving a car, operating equipment, any dangerous activity, etc.) Remember Jesus words in Matthew 12:35, "A good man out of the good treasure of the heart bringeth forth good things: and an evil man out of the evil treasure bringeth forth evil things." And reading Matt 13:52, "Then said he unto them, Therefore every scribe which is instructed unto the kingdom of heaven is like unto a man that is an householder, which bringeth forth out of his treasure things new and old." Take heed of Jesus words in Lk6::48-49, "He is like a man which built an house, and digged deep, and laid the foundation on a rock: and when the flood arose, the stream beat vehemently upon that house, and could not shake it: for it was founded upon a rock. But he that heareth, and doeth not, is like a man that without a foundation built an house upon the earth; against which the stream did beat vehemently, and immediately it fell; and the ruin of that house was great."

If pulled outwards, learn to recognize the "feeling" or the movement and pull yourself back into the center of your head. Practice, Practice, Practice and you will learn how-to control the movement. The more often you practice making the mind-Father connection, every day, the more progress you make towards Other Earth.

We cannot read and know these teachings of Jesus and expect any progress: we must do them AND apply them to ourself. If we do not apply them to ourself and do these things, then Satan will cause us to fall - and great will be our fall. Reading Lk 24: 53, "And were continually in the temple, praising and blessing God." And Matt 24: 17, "Let him which is on the housetop not come down to take any thing out of his house." And Matt 24:42-43, "Watch therefore: for ye know not what hour your Lord doth come. But know this, that if the goodman of the house had known in what watch the thief would come, he would have watched, and would not have suffered his house to be broken up." And Matt 26:41, "Watch and pray, that ye enter not into temptation: the spirit indeed is willing, but the flesh is weak."

And remember Jesus' words in Matt 10:25 & 28, "The master of the house Beelzebub (Satan) - fear him which is able to destroy both soul and body in hell."

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Just because you do not 'think' these teachings are right, or you don't "feel" these teachings are correct, does not make it so: reading 2Timothy 2:15, "Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth."

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Our souls are taught and conditioned to perceive things the way the teacher wants us to see them; usually from his or her own point of view. Whether it be state, church, or family, people are continually injecting our souls with their thoughts. Authority figures speak and we follow without question. Yes we follow along like sheep in the fold until something jars our mind and we begin to question what we know. To this end I am not trying to convice you, I am trying to get you to question what you know; to work and PROVE things to yourself.

In the beginning (Genesis 1:1 to 1:5) the light was created on the first day. But wait - what is this light? We see that the sun, moon and the stars weren't created until the fourth day (Genesis 1:14). So what is this Light that was created on the first day? Knowledge?

Then we see in Genesis 1:26, a male and female man being created on the sixth day to replenish the earth (Genesis 1:28). One of the definitions for replenish is to - 'fill up again'. Were there already human forms on the earth? Might this explain how Cain finds a wife in the land of Nod? (Genesis 4:16)

And then we read in Genesis 2:1, "Thus the heavens and the earth were finished, and all the host of them." That on the seventh day God FINISHED his work and rested from his work.

There we have it, the earth and all live forms finished; reading Genesis 1:27-1:28, "God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them, and God blessed them, and God said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it: and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth."

"And God saw every thing that he had made, and, behold, it was very good" - Genesis 1:31.

So there we have it, The Creation - finished, and it was VERY GOOD. But wait, here comes another story of the creation . . . or is it another creation?

Have you ever noticed in The First Book of Moses (which has been renamed Genesis), that there are TWO accounts of creation. The first one in chapter 1 and the second one in chapter 2?

In Chapter 1 the man and woman are created in the image of God to replenish the earth, but in Chapter 2 the woman is created from the man's rib: that the man was around for some time before the woman was created as a 'help meet' for the man because, "It is not good that the man should be alone" (Genesis 2:18).

Are you beginning to see they way in which we have been taught to think about the Bible, that in reading we may not have understood what is right there in black & white in front of our very own eyes; that we have been merely following along? Let us continue to look closer at this First Book of Moses.

If one wants to argue from the theologian point of view, which most souls will, then in Chapter 1 man is created as male and female, androgynous - or - there is a creation of a male and a female to replenish the earth. If the latter is the case, the creation of two separate human beings, one male and the other female, to replenish the earth, then how in Chapter 2 could the man be alone and a woman is being created as a help meet for him?

And why has God suddenly become LORD God at this very point in this First Book of Moses?

We would like you to consider for a moment that there may be two separate creations. The first creation is Other Earth, and the second creation is this Earth. We would like you to study and learn for yourself. Could this be the recorded account of TWO CREATIONS, as given to Moses?

In Chapter 1, the first creation, Moses has recorded the creation of God. In Chapter 2, the second creation, Moses has recorded the creation of LORD God. (Take note that LORD is capitualized - maybe as to set himself above God?) Whether it is LORD, YHWH, or whatever, a title has been added to God to accentuate his importance above all others.

Reading in Genesis 2:4, "These are the generations of the heavens and of the earth when they were created, in the day that the LORD God made the earth and the heavens, and every plant of the field before it was in the earth, and every herb of the field before it grew: for the LORD God had not caused it to rain upon the earth, and there was not a man to till the ground."

So this LORD God formed man from the dust of the ground and "breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul."

If the man and woman had been created in Genesis Chapter 1 by God, reading Genesis 1:26, "And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness", then what is this soul creation of the LORD God in Chapter 2?

Remembering that swine breed swine, man begets man, and a heavenly Father brings forth a heavenly Son - Then isn't it plausable that this LORD God has created something after his own kind?

Let us take a side-bar here for a moment and read some Biblical passages to see just what kind of a 'being' this LORD God is.

A quick search of the concordance for this phrase, "jealous God", shows us that LORD God is a JEALOUS GOD! Reading Exodus 34:14, "For thou shalt worship no other god: for the LORD, whose name [is] Jealous, [is] a jealous God." Whose name is Jealous - it doesn't get any plainer than that. Read and you will see, this LORD God is a god of vengeance, anger, and all the evil of a evil heart. Truly like has created like. The creation is like its creator.

This is a warring God; a God of hatred and vengeance; a God of greed and anger. The Bible is a historical record of this warring god and his creation; as is this earth today full of war with death and destruction based on greed, hatred, vengeance and anger..... all spawned by the many religions of this LORD God. (Remember Babel when he "confound their language, that they may not understand one another" and scattered them all over the world.)

Open your Bible; use a concordance; you will find this knowledge for yourself.

This LORD God made his creation with a soul (heart), like-creating-like. Reading Genesis 6:5, "And GOD saw that the wickedness of man was great in the earth, and that every imagination of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually. 6:6 And it repented the LORD that he had made man on the earth, and it grieved him at his heart.

Now when Jesus is called Good Master in Matthew 19:16, Jesus rebukes the man and says,"Why callest thou me good? there is none good but one, that is, God." Jesus was well educated in the Jewish religion, and he never referred to LORD God (YHWH).

The good God is the God in Genesis 1:31 who finished his creation and "saw every thing that he had made was VERY GOOD."

So we ask the question again; Who is this LORD God? Why is every thought of the man's heart (soul) continually evil if everything was created VERY GOOD? And why next does this LORD God set out to destroy the whole creation? After all, it was only man that was evil, so why destroy all living things? Is this LORD God's creed, "An eye for an eye, a tooth for a tooth" - evil for evil? Does the dog bark, the cat meow, and LORD God's creation do what LORD God does? Is there an inherient design flaw in LORD God's creation? Is there an inherient design flaw in LORD God?

Now enter the Serpent. The cunning, crafty serpent. That ingenious, clever, mentally skillful, quick and resourceful serpent. That serpent which is keen in perception and possessing great power in constructing or creating new ways of accomplishing its crafty schemes. That sly serpent with its discerning insight and its technical understanding. That serpent which was created "more subtle than any other beast of the field." (Genesis 3:1) Why was this serpent created? Why was it given such great ability? Why did it approach the woman and not the man?

Why was the man and woman created not knowing good & evil? Why was the Tree of Good & Evil created if they were not to eat from that tree . . . that eating from the Tree of Knowledge would mean certain DEATH if they did eat therefrom? We read in Genesis 9:2 that the LORD God created many beautiful trees that were pleasant to look at and that were good for food. So why create this Death Tree? And what about the Tree of Life? Why didn't they just eat from this Tree and live forever?

However, they did eat from the Death Tree and just like the serpent said, "Ye shall not surely die" (Genesis 3:4) . . . AND Eve didn't die - neither did Adam. Did the Lord God lie to them? And why weren't they conscious of the Tree of Life? The LORD God had already told them they could eat of EVERY tree of the garden (which surely included the Tree of Life) - but they didn't. Why not?

Next we see that this LORD God becomes very afraid that they will eat from the Tree of Life and live forever, but only after the "eyes of them both were opened." Only AFTER they ate from the Tree of the Knowledge of Good and Evil were they capable of eating from the Tree of Life. So we see very quickly that the LORD God didn't want them to eat from the Tree of Life and live forever, and so the LORD God placed a flaming sword, which turns every way, to keep the 'way' of the Tree of Life.

This LORD God was very concerned, reading Genesis 3:22, "And the LORD God said, Behold, the man is become as one of us, to know good and evil: and now, lest he put forth his hand, and take also of the tree of life, and eat, and live for ever."

You see, this LORD God didn't want them eating from the Tree of the Knowledge of Good and Evil because he didn't want them learning of the Tree of Life. LORD God had lied to them; they didn't die: and now LORD God had to stop them from eating from the Tree of Life. (A liar from the beginning.)

You see the Tree of the Knowledge of Good and Evil was a tree of Knowledge. And without Knowledge they did not know they were naked, and without Knowledge they could not understand about the Tree of Life. But with their new ability of understanding through Knowledge, they could learn of (eat from) the Tree of Life and live for ever. But the LORD God didn't want his creation to "become like one of us."

And so begins the never ending story of Adam & Evil. The never ending search for the Tree of Life, the Holy Grail, the Fountain of Living Waters; the goal of attaining immortality, of not having to die the 'second death'.

The creation of man and woman went from innocent little children to sinful souls of desire - "if thou doest not well, sin lieth at the door. And unto thee shall be his desire, and thou shalt rule over him." (Genesis 4:7) And thus was created this world of Greed and Anger by LORD God, the LORD God whose name is Jealous.

Again, remembering that swine breed swine, man begets man, the deaf and blind join with their own kind, and a heavenly Father brings forth a heavenly Son: did LORD God create something of his own kind?.

Reading Genesis 6:1 "And it came to pass, when men (hominoids) began to multiply on the face of the earth, and daughters were born unto them, 6:2 That the sons of God (the Adamic race) saw the daughters of men that they were fair; and they took them wives of all which they chose. 6:3 And the LORD said, My spirit shall not always strive with man, for that he also is flesh: yet his days shall be an hundred and twenty years. 6:4 There were giants in the earth in those days; and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare children to them, the same became mighty men which were of old, men of renown."

And then reading Genesis 6:5, "And GOD saw that the wickedness of man was great in the earth, and that every imagination of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually. 6:6 And it repented the LORD that he had made man on the earth, and it grieved him at his heart. 6:7 And the LORD said, I will destroy man whom I have created from the face of the earth; both man, and beast, and the creeping thing, and the fowls of the air; for it repenteth me that I have made them. (A murderer from the beginning.) 6:8 But Noah found grace in the eyes of the LORD."

But wait a moment. We look back to Gesesis 1:31, where Moses says, "And God saw every thing he had made (including man), and, behold, It was very Good." Not just Good, but VERY Good. And now we read in Genesis 6:5 that the LORD God - "saw that the wickedness of man (his creation) was great in the earth, and that every imagination of the thoughts of his heart (soul) was only evil continually. And it repented the LORD (God) that he had made man on the earth, and it grieved him at his heart." (LORD God felt regret in his own heart (soul) which caused his mind to change and he wanted to destroy EVERYTHING, even the beasts, creeping things and fowls of the air. But why the animals? The animals did nothing wrong. Are we gaining an insight into this LORD God and his own evil heart; like-creating-like?

And so the LORD God in anger destroyes everything but Noah and the few animals taken into the Ark. and reading Genesis 8:21, "and the LORD said in his heart, I will not again curse the ground any more for man’s sake; for the imagination of man’s heart is evil from his youth" You see, the flood did not solve the design flaw, for the imagination of a man's heart is evil from his youth.

Notice that man's heart is not evil from childhood, but from his Youth - puberty; when the serpent force quickens the soul. (Quickening: make alive; to come to be enlivened; to come to live; to enter into a place of active growth and development; seeds quickening the soul.)

Then once again we see in Genesis 9:1, this LORD God is instructing Noah to "replenish the earth." For Noah was of the generation of Adam, "a just man and perfect in his generations;" meaning he and his family had not defiled themselves with the existing hominoids.

And so it goes again until we reach Genesis 11:1 to 11:9 where we see the generation of Adam reaching to be as the LORD God, and the LORD God coming down to see that, with their 'imagination' they could reach heaven, and so the LORD God says, reading Genesis 11:7, "Let US go down, and there confound their language, that they may not understand one another's speach." And thus it is that the LORD God did confound the language of ALL the earth and did scatter them abroad upon the face of ALL the earth.

So here is the LORD God again afraid of the man becoming as one of (US).

And so goes all the remaining stories of the Old Testament, the continuing battle of Adam & Evil, of the Adamic race trying to reach heaven but the LORD God keeping them earth bound where he can be their God, and they can worship Him and obey Him.

LORD God is not destroying and holding man back because of the 'evil in man's heart", for as we have seen back in Genesis 6:5, LORD God "saw that the wickedness of man was great in the earth, and that every imagination of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually." LORD God already knew that this evil heart was a part and parcel of his creation. No the Lord God destroys all through the old testament whenever man stops worshipping him. Which brings us across time through many generations to Jesus speaking in the temple on the mount of Olives with the scribes and Pharisees, who say to Jesus in John 8:33, "We be Abraham’s seed, and were never in bondage to any man . . . Abraham is our father." The Pharasies say, "We be not born of fornication (which means breeding outside the linage of Abraham); we have one Father, even God."

To which Jesus replies in John 8:42, "If God were your Father, ye would love me (understand me): for I proceedeth forth and came from God; neither came I of myself, but he sent me. Why do you not understand my speach (this is a RHETORICAL QUESTION, asked merely for effect with no answer expected) even because ye cannot hear my word."

Then Jesus plainly tells the Pharisees who they are in John 8:44, reading, "Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it." (This is LORD God: they know not what they worship.)

Yes, we have become the children of the LORD God - but we can become Born Again. Jesus and the messengers continue to come and show us the WAY. Reading Luke 9:49, "And John answered and said, Master, we saw one casting out devils in thy name; and we forbad him, because he followeth not with us. And Jesus said unto him, Forbid him not: for he that is not against us is for us."

And Jesus says, "I came down to the world of the dead from the world above. I came down to dwell with you so that you in turn might dwell with me. If you wish to come with me, come!"
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Man is blinded by the imagination of his soul.
The soul making the man to appear wise
has changed the truth of God
into a lie.

You will discover that to live from the mind, uncontrolled by the soul, is great suffering in this world. For this is the world of Soul; lust, anger, greed, attachment, ego and the evil thereof. The righteousness of the mind does suffer greatly in this world: the whole creation groans and travails in pain on this Earth.

The heart, the soul, that devil dwells inside each one of us, causing us to do evil even when we want to be good; that when we want to do good, we find evil inside as well.

Now is the time for the revelation of the mystery which has been kept secret since the world began. To make known the teachings of Jesus to all nations: thus is prophecy being fulfilled, making foolish the wisdom of this world.

This mystery has been revealed to me, to give to you, to give to others, that all might bring to light the hidden things and make manifest the evil counsels of our hearts; to bring us unto remembrance that we are mind and not the flesh and blood of this evil world and its evil god, Soul. And least I should be exalted above measure through the abundance of these revelations, there was given to me a thorn in the flesh, the messenger of Satan to buffet me, least I should be exalted above measure and lose my way.

Be a steward of the mystery of God, not that you can persuade any man, nay, for only having the experience of contact with the Father can work that miracle in man, but cast these teachings over the areas you can, sow the seeds and to whomsoever the time has come and to them shall understanding come.

No one has seen this mystery by them self. No not by our own efforts have we been able to see what our Soul has not wanted us to see; but by a messenger coming to this world and revealing that which has remained hidden, until this time of the end, have we been able to see that which has always been right there in the Bible before our very eyes. It has been revealed to me to give to you to give to others. Knowledge, understanding and wisdom, this is the true power, the real power of God.

I have come as one born out of due time to show the way to other Earth, to make known unto you the secret of the heart. Keep in memory what I show you here and do not fall back into the ways of this world.

Let us cleanse ourselves from all filthiness of the soul and become exceedingly glad in the tribulations to come. For it is the trials & tribulations which shall besiege us that will form the new man.

Every man reaps according to the contents of his heart. You sow greed, you reap the rewards of greed. You sow jealousy, you reap the rewards of jealousy. Out of the abundance of the soul the mind thinks and the mouth speaks. Out of the evil heart comes evil things. As you judge, so are you preparing your own judgment. For your very own soul shall be your judge because you have chosen it as your God.

Jesus came to show us this sinful (full of sin) evil heart, and to show us how to deliver ourselves from this evil world.

Who has bewitched you? Not I. Not your neighbour. Not your parents or your brothers and sisters - but your very own Soul. Examine yourself. Prove these things to yourself. Study and know the evil of your own heart.

Before Jesus came and brought the truth we were kept under the control of the soul, doing its bidding. It was the heart that kept the truth shut up and hidden from our mind. Until now the heart has been our Master and we its slave. But now we can be made free and whole once again through the application of this knowledge. Be of good comfort, be of one mind, become perfect and know the peace which the heart cannot give.

So long as the soul rules the house, there will be no peace.

Everyone is currently experiencing a 'degree' of psychosis because they are not of one mind but of the soul-mind creation. Psychosis being defined as: "a fundamental derangement of the mind (as in schizophrenia) characterized by defective or lost contact with reality, especially as evidenced by delusions, hallucinations, and disorganized speech and behaviour."

As a thought, Why is our mind in a constant state of flux between this world and the dream state? Just watch your mind and see how often you are lost in thought, daydreaming, and not consciously aware of your surroundings. How often do you hear things that aren't entirely correct? When people speak to you do you hear them or do they have to repeat themselves?

This is the world of GREED and ANGER. Don't take my word for it, watch the news! Greed corrupts even the best meaning of people. Wars don't happen - people make them happen for reasons of Greed. It doesn't matter whether it is for oil or religion, their evil hearts want control and will do anything to get what they want - and if they don't get what they want they are - ANGRY and return evil for evil.

Why is it seeing you cannot see? Why is it reading you cannot understand?

The plutocracy sells us dreams that in reality are lies. And the spin-doctors massage the lies and serve them up time and time again and we buy into it as if they were brand new truths. Why? - reading Romans 16:18, "By good works and fair speeches they deceive the hearts of the simple."

We have allowed ourselves to become addicted to the ministry of the saints, no matter what the religion, the contents of our hearts blinding our minds. Remove this veil that you may see again. Reading 2Corinthians 4:4, "In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, least the light (knowledge) of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them."

Try reading 1Corinthians 13:1-13 to see how you have been deceived as to what charity is. Charity is not giving away things or oneself to the poor or the needy. Charity is being kind, even if it means suffering. Charity means we do not envy, we are not egotistic, we do not act unseemly, we do not provoke, we do not think evil or rejoice in iniquity.

Reading Ephesians 4:14, "Henceforth be no more children, tossed to and fro, and carried about with every word of doctrine, by the sleigh of men, and cunning craftiness, whereby they lie in wait to deceive." (4:17-18) "Walk not in the vanity of your mind, having your understanding darkened by the ignorance of your blind heart, whose feelings give you over to work all uncleanness with greediness."

In your hearts I am the enemy because I tell you the truth. Crucify the heart with its affections and lusts, that the Father of glory may give unto you the spirit of wisdom and revelation in the knowledge of him; the eyes of your understanding being enlightened.

By revelation he made known unto me the mystery of the Father (which in other ages was not made known unto the sons of men) to make all men see what is the fellowship of the mystery, which from the beginning of the world has been hid, until the time be made right that ALL men could learn thereof and be saved. Yes, it's been all about 'timing' - the whole creation groaning and travailing in pain until now, the End Time.

Reading 2Corinthians 4:6, "For it is God who commands the light (knowledge) to shine out of darkness and into our hearts, to give the light of knowledge of the glory of God in the face of Jesus Christ." (5:2) "For in this we groan, earnestly desiring to be clothed upon with our house which is from heaven."

Turn away from those conversations with the heart, those conversations which are corrupt according to its deceitful lusts and become renewed in the knowledge and understanding of your mind. Put on the new man of knowing and give no audience to the heart, your soul, that devil; let it corrupt and steal no more.

Now are you knowledgeable in the truth, so walk as children in the truth and be no more partakers of the heart with its unfruitful works of darkness. Be perfect, be thus minded, and if you be any other minded, the Father shall reveal this unto you.

Become rooted in the knowledge and build up in the wisdom of understanding, looking within yourself and outwards at others to confirm that what you read here is true. Accept nothing on blind faith.

Why have you allowed your hearts to deceive you through philosophy and running after the religious traditions of men, running after the doctrines and dogmas of this world?

Make yourself perfect by the circumcision made without hands (read Romans 2:28-29), by cutting off the evil heart from gaining entrance into your mind. We bring and give you this knowledge that you may war a good warfare against the soul, that devil, Satan.

We must crucify the old us that the body of sin be destroyed, and henceforth we should not serve sin (the heart). For he whose mind is disconnected from the heart, is free from sin, and the heart has no more dominion over him.

Jesus did not tell sinners they were going to hell to burn for eternity, this is just the evil hearts of men twisting the words to sow seeds of fear into their followers, to gain control over their minds through their hearts. Jesus said, "Your sins are forgiven, GO and sin no more!"

We are the servants of sin because we obey the heart. The wages of sin is death; an after-life of living in the contents of our soul; in the imaginative world of soul's dreams and nightmares . . . with all our judgments coming alive as real people, demons and creatures to hound and haunt us. This is what awaits us until another opportunity of incarnation.

Learn how to rule your own house, and then teach others. Learn how to hold this "knowing" in consciousness at all times. A little leaven leavens the whole lump. Practice makes perfect. Patiently endure; fight the good fight and receive the promise. Learn to bridle the soul; to quell the fire of the unruly tongue.

Resist the devil you double-minded, and eventually the evil soul-mind connection will die. However, do not let that devil deceive you. The soul is wiser and more cunning than you can imagine. If you are "thinking" you have overcome, driven the evil heart out, then you do greatly err. Reading Romans 12:2, "Be not conformed to this world, but be ye transformed by the renewing of your mind."

As you try to cease from the soul's activities you will suffer like Job. It will be as though you are going crazy; as though you have become a stranger in a strange land . . . and it will be a fiery trial.

This is the fight for life! The soul is not going-down without a bloody battle. You are going to fall on your face time and time again, but take these trials and tribulations of soul as an opportunity to learn of its crafty and deceitful devices, to learn of its hideous ugliness while you come unto the realization that - you don't want to be connected to this evil thing any longer.

Remember in the past when you asked this god for bread, and it gave you a stone. Remember when you asked for a fish, and it gave you a serpent. Beware of its Trojan offerings. It comes in sheep's clothing, but inward it is a ravening wolf.

The heart will be ever warring against you (the mind), trying to bring you back again under its power and subjection. With the mind we serve the law of God, but with the heart the law of sin. So walk not after the heart, but after the mind, for it is the mind which can set you free. For to be carnally minded, your mind controlled by the soul, is death, but to be spiritually minded, that is of the mind-Father connection, is life and peace. Remember that because the soul is at enmity against God, it is not subject to the law of God and never can it be.

If someone were trying to kill you, would you not fight to survive? The soul is the creator of instinct - and survival is the strongest instinct. It will do anything, I repeat, ANYTHING to survive. But don't believe me, read The Book of Job and try to break the soul-mind connection; see for yourself.

I didn't say it was going to be fast or easy. What of any real value in this world is obtainable fast and easy? So how much harder do you think this will be? Reading Hebrews 10:32, "But call into remembrance the former days, in which, after ye were illuminated, ye endured a great fight of afflictions."

You are going to suffer the trials and tribulations of soul. There is no other way. Escape the pollutions of this world through the knowledge of the way to righteousness. Overcome the wicked one and its sons of man; become one of the sons of God. Reading James 11:13, "Let NO MAN say when he is tempted, 'I am tempted of God,' for God tempts no man with evil." Every man is tempted by his own heart.

Jesus was the son of God, with God from the beginning until the TIME was right to manifest him unto this world and then raise him up to govern the new world. And for this purpose was Jesus manifested in this world; to expose the works of the devil, the soul, that evil heart, that sin which exists in all men.

Marvel not when the people of this world begin to hate you for no reason - but rejoice that you are passing from death unto life. Reading Romans 12:14, "Bless them which persecute you: bless, and curse not. (12:17) Recompense to no man evil for evil. (12:31) Be not overcome of evil, but overcome evil with good."

Think about this: " if " Jesus was the ONLY BEGOTTEN SON of God, then who begat Adam? Reading 1Corinthians 15:45, "The first man Adam was made a living soul, (15:22) as in Adam, all die; the last Adam (Jesus) was made a quickening spirit - made alive. The first man is of the Earth below; the second man is of the Father above: (15:21) for since by man came death, by man came the resurrection of the dead."

Reading Romans 8:28-29, "And we know that all things work together for the good to them that love God, to them who are called according to his purpose; for whom he did foreknow, he did also predestinate to be conformed to the image of his Son, that he might be the first born among many brethren."

And reading The Epistle of Paul the Apostle to the Colossians 1:18, "And he is the head of the body, the church: who is the beginning, the first born from the dead." Yes with Jesus, the redemption and the return home began.

Reading 1Timothy 2:3-4, "For this is good and acceptable in the sight of God our Saviour; who will have all men to be saved, and to come unto the knowledge of the truth."

Hebrews 4:12, "For the word of God is quick, and powerful, and sharper than any two-edged sword, piercing even to the dividing asunder of soul and spirit, and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart." And reading 1John 3:20, "For if our heart condemn us, God is greater than our heart, and knoweth all things."


Rise up, connect with the Father that he may teach you all things.
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Life should be a journey of purification and perfection. It's not about going somewhere, about going to some mythical heaven or hell, life is about becoming something, about being transformed, about change; reading Romans 12:2, "Be not conformed to this world: but be ye transformed by the renewing of your mind." You see, Life is not about going somewhere, it's not about renewing the soul, it's not about getting intouch with the inner child (the soul). Life is about the renewing of your mind.

Life here is an opportunity to break the soul-mind connection and form the Father-mind connection. But hey, don't take my word for it, try it! See what soul does to your mind when you try to break the connection. See how the other souls around you "sense" that you are trying to break the connection. Sounds strange doesn't it? Try it and you will see what strange really is.

Try and break the connection. Try and form the Father-mind connection; for when you try, you are going to suffer the trials and tribulations of soul. The sooner you really try to break the soul-mind connection, the sooner you will see the truth of this enemy within, "that old serpent called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world." (Revelations 16:14)

We can read Jesus' words in Revelations 3:5, "He that overcometh, the same shall be clothed in white raiment, and I will not blot his name out of the book of life." And reading Revelations 2:7, "To him that overcometh will I give to eat of the Tree of Life." And Jesus goes on to talk extensively about "he that overcometh" in Revelations 2:17, 2:26, 3:12, 3:21, and in 21:7 he says, "He that overcometh shall inherit all things." Now remembering that an inheritance involves a death, then

1. What must be overcome?, and
2. What must die?

ANSWER: The soul must be overcome and the soul-mind connection must die. When you make this happen, your name appears in the Book of Life and that is your passport to Other Earth. Then, when the body dies and releases you, you will experience the true second coming when Jesus comes and takes you to the Other Earth. (The "Second Coming" is in spirit.)

Rise up and connect with the Father, the Tree of Life; stop eating from the tree of good and evil, the soul. Start forming the new connection with the Father and start eating from that Tree of Life so you may learn "what" has been ruling over you and keeping you in bondage. Eat from the tree of life, become free and live forever.

This knowledge has been given that we may arrive at the perfect understanding thereof and become a kind of first fruits of his creation. When the trials and tribulations come, and they will come, recall, remember, and endure the throngs of temptation to follow after soul's wicked ways. Be steadfast in your resolve to stop being of the soul-mind connection, to stop listening to the whisperings of soul. Stop letting it cause you to react to the evil around you. Do not let it make you think, speak, act or return evil for evil. It's not easy and you are going to fall on your face time and time again as you learn of your evil soul's ways.

Knowing what the soul is, and learning how it works in you, you can begin to recognize its ways and you can learn to endure its trials and tribulations. Learn of that evil soul within and eventually break the soul-mind connection by forming the Father-mind connection and attaining life everlasting on Other Earth.

However, you must apply this knowledge to you. You must do the work to become "transformed", to "renew" your mind, to become "born again". Do not let the soul deceive you into believing that by knowing these things you shall reach Other Earth. Reading James 2:20 & 26, "Faith without works is dead. For as the body without the spirit is dead, so faith without works is dead also." (Faith is a synonym for belief.) Knowing and believing does nothing. Doing and changing takes us back home to Other Earth.

It is not enough to know and talk, you must do and become, become born again. You must fight the good fight against your evil soul if you want to attain eternal life on Other Earth. You must fight against all thine enemies which be in your own household. This is the battle of Armageddon where you shall go up against soul's legion of evil.

You have to learn, do, and become. You have to work VERY HARD if you are going to overcome the soul-mind connection. And take heed and beware of the doctrine of religion. Religion is of this world. Religion is of the heart for the heart. History has and continues to show the good & evil of religion.

As Jesus says in Revelations 21:6, John 4:14, and Revelations 22:17, "I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end. I will give unto him that is athirst of the fountain of the water of life freely. That whosoever drinketh of the water of life that I shall give him shall never thirst; but the water that I shall give him shall be in him a well of water springing up unto everlasting life. And the Spirit and the bride say, come. And let him that heareth say, come. And let him that is athirst come. And whosoever will, let him take of the water of life freely."

Come. Rise up and connect with the Tree of Life, the Father, that he may teach you all things. Trust in the Father, the living mind that is the Saviour inside all men. The Tree of Life is for the healing of all nations. Come.
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Cut off listening to soul's whisperings from below: for out of the hearts of men proceed all evil toughts which cause all evil in this world. All evil thoughts come from below, out of the soul, and defile the man.

Resist the temptations. When you are as a little child, focused in the moment, not thinking, you are disconnected from the soul and it has no power over you. But let one of those thoughts from below enter into your mind, and that devil Satan begins to take control.

The soul cannot be changed from its design and purpose. If your thoughts, words and actions are evil, it is the thoughts of soul infecting your mind. Stop the flow of thoughts from below: cut them off in mid-stream. Rise up and call on the Father above for help. Rise up to the seat of the Father and ask him to help you to resist the temptations of soul. When the wave of thoughts have passed send a loving thought, a "thank you" to the Father.

Thinking you can overcome or control the evil of soul is just more of soul's cunning craftiness. You can't do it yourself; if you try you will only be using it's thoughts from below, strengthening it.

Turn away from those conversations with the soul. Put on the new mind of knowing what the soul is, and learn how it is operating within you. Give no audience to your soul. Let that devil corrupt and steal from you no more. Do not let that devil keep dragging you down to fulfill its desires. Break the connection, each time, and stop the flow of your mental energy downwards to feed its insatiable desires. Stop giving its thoughts life.

The soul has reigned from Adam to Moses to Jesus, until now, the end time; the beginning of the end of soul's reign.

To everyone born into this world there is given unto him or her a thorn in the side, a devil inside, a soul of good and evil. Yes Satan lives inside each and every one of us: not one of us is good, no not one!

Reading John 12:31, "Now is the judgment of this world: now shall the prince of this world be cast out." And reading James 4:7, "Submit yourselves therefore to God (the Father). Resist the devil and he will flee from you."

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Maybe that "other world", is of higher vibrations.
And i bet there is even higher vibrations than that "other world"

for E.B.I

Stop reposting 2005 insider text, dont think anyone belives that you are even close to him. Just another wannabe.

for "Who posted that Jesus teachings"

Are you from Brotherhood of Light? I will keep your information in mind, but (What is the point of leaving this game if we have not mastered it yet). Or maybe we can never master it because game master wants to be the only master.
This sounds very strange...



FOR EVERYONE

WHAT IS THE 6th Chakra FREQUENCY, everything vibrates, so tell me with what frequency does 6th chakra work?
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Could this be it?

lst CHAKRA - Root - Muladhara
Keynote: C

Frequency: 256 Hz.

Vowel: Uh

Bija: Lam

Element: Earth

Shabd Sound: Thunder/Earthquake

Energy: Grounding



2nd CHAKRA - Sacral - Svadisthana
Keynote: D

Frequency: 288 Hz

Vowel: Ooo

Bija: Vam

Element: Water

Shabd Sound: Ocean

Energy: Life Energy,



3rd CHAKRA - Navel - Manipura
Keynote: E

Vowel: Oh

Frequency: 320 Hz.

Bija: Ram

Element: Fire

Shabd Sound: Roaring Fire

Element: Fire

Energy: Power



4th CHAKRA - Heart - Anahata
Keynote: F

Frequency: 341. 3 Hz.

Vowel: Ah

Bija: Yam

Element: Air

Shabd Sound: Wind

Energy: Compassion, Love



5th CHAKRA - Throat - Vishuddhi
Keynote: G

Frequency: 384 Hz.

Vowel: Eye

Bija: Ham

Element: Ether

Shabd Sound: Crickets

Energy: Communication, Creation



6th CHAKRA - 3rd Eye - Ajna
Keynote: A

Frequency: 426.7 Hz.

Vowel: Aye

Bija: Sham

Element: All
Shabd Sound: Bells/Space

Energy: Insight, Wisdom



7th CHAKRA - Crown - Sahasrara
Keynote: B

Frequency: 480 Hz.

Vowel: Eee

Bija: Om

Element: All

Shabd Sound: Om

Energy: Transcendence
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where exactly

is the triangle ?


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Spake Logos666 673795:

Where exactly

is The Earth ?

"

[Now read carefully, because usually a dark agent will argue that if you venerate the sacredness of the earth you are just too attached to leave it, and by telling you to escape will at the same time block the only way "out":]


...We can allow ourselves to blunderingly be trapped by this device of apprehension that casts a shadow over Life seeking to destroy it, or we can, if we want, attune with the luminous energy emanating from the Heart Of Mother Earth—and with the Light of Life which emanates from the Celestial Being—to avert the sorcery of the catastrophe, so as to pass through it, into infinity.

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akusoy don't waste time with culture bound comlications like the qaffalah.

If you need understanding of those in (more) modern terms, take a year or so to study this guy:

[link to www.sno.org]
[link to www.sno.org]
[link to www.sno.org]


"
Many years ago I used the phrase, "the days of the giants are over." Indeed they are. Vitvan was one of those remarkable giant-men who appear so rarely in world history and of whom there are so few that they become in due course of time milestones along the trail of our evolutionary struggles. Credit is due to Richard Satriano in Vitvan: An American Master to have so clearly depicted and painted a full-size picture of what a giant thought and felt and did. No one previously has quite accomplished what Vitvan did. Most teachers have been partitive: expounding this or that phase of the ancient wisdom. Vitvan attempted to present an over-all view of the Gnosis couched in current scientific and philosophical language. He makes demands on his readers. His work does not permit a cursory overview from cover to cover.

He stands relatively alone. He was a gigantic figure in a desert inhabited only be a mere handful of human Joshua trees whose arms are uplifted to the Infinite and Eternal.

Israel Regardie
(!)
"



Anyway, I keep recommending this kind of thing

[link to www.amazon.com]
[link to www.youtube.com]
(the poster meant "presence")

for starters. w/o a thorough grounding in the basis, all esoteric complications are for the birds.

If you must practice tantric stuff, practice Iyengar Yoga for a decade first or at least along with it.


I repeat I have never been a devotee of this Guru below and do not recommend or unrecommend any of the communities he left behind.

So ignore the person if you want, and insert Jesus, Buddha, Ramana, or any of the very high realizers, or God himself (if you really can) for wherever he says "True Heart Master".

But note the simplicity of the truth itself that he speaks. This stuff is not basic, it is very advanced as you shall see when you listen to the finish of these 10 min:




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Where exactly

is The Earth ?
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2:30 - 3:00

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Why do you think you are elite? Money? Power? Utterly meaningless!

The only elite that counts is the spiritual elite, period. And those people DO NOT share your opinions or feelings or thoughts on almost anything.

You know the meek are about to inherit the earth, right?

You know you are on the way out, right?

You know the spiritual elite LOVE you anyway, right?
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Stop posting your redundant, lenghty nonsense. Your replies here have corrupted this thread.
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Stop posting your redundant, lenghty nonsense. Your replies here have corrupted this thread.
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9/24/2005
Statement Insider:
I am a member of an Elite Family who you despise...ask me a question
and I will answer them in short.
Why?
Because I can.

Q:
What´s an "Elite Family"?
A:
That´s how most are calling it.
Families who for a long time have been ruling the people who are not from these bloodlines.


Q:
what´s your thoughts on "peak oil"
A:
It is known within certain circles that it is manufactured.
The Earth is producing more oil/gas than is being used now even believe it or not, it is a natural
process "the more you take, the more it produces to balance itself".
Study the bees and the way they produce honey and you will understand.
On top of that there are many places with large amounts of natural resources which never have
been touched.
The agenda?
I think you know.


Q:
what commonalities do the bloodlines share?
and have you ever fucked a child?
A:
Understand that "bloodlines" have been chosen to rule, it didn´t just appear out of air.
The souls which incarnate into these bloodlines who rule are picked by Divine Law.
Other things don´t have to be mentioned.
The second question shows you read to much Icke who is a tool that is being used.
But to answer, no.


Q:
Sorry, OP. No one rules me...never has!
A:
A little old saying:
The perfect slave is the one that says "I am not a slave".
It is like an alcoholic saying he isn´t an alcoholic so therefor he will always be an alcoholic.
Get my drift?


Q:
Where do you elites store your mentally ill relatives caused by centuries of inbreeding?
A:
It is a myth that inbreeding always causes problems.
If the 2 persons who procreate carry genes which are of better quality than the rest....


Q:
why have you allowed us to breed like rats if population is what you feel threatens you?
A:
1. We haven´t allowed that, you have more power than you think you have.
2. Population does not threaten "us" in any way, shape or form....again a myth.


Q by forum owner Trinity:
I am curious what a member of an ´elite family´ thinks of GLP.
So what do you think?
A:
The more divided people are, the easier it is to rule over them.
Making them believe they have a sword in their hand which they think makes them powerful and
able to fight "the dark sider" while it is just a toothpick.
You have to be very careful who you give that imaginary sword to, Trinity.
Do you know that not just spoken words but also written words emanate a frequency which have
a direct effect?
And I would say that a vast majority of the written words here are not helping the cause you
think you are fighting for.


Q:
What is your religious affiliation?
A:
Religion is created by "us".
The religions which rule now are the ones that are under total control.
I can´t give out to much about this but Christianity/Judaism/Islam/Buddhism are a bit off, let´s
say.
There is a core of truth, but it is drowning in a sea of perversions....for you to pick out, good luck.
What we believe in does not matter but it is about serving the Divine Law which was passed onto
us.


Q:
How about the world economy?
A:
One thing conspiracy theorists are right about is that it is based on money that doesn´t exist,
never existed, never will.
The ones who own the banks also own the media and politics, so it can be portrayed the way they
want you to believe it.


Q
When will the wheat be separated from the chaff?
Or do you want to get rid of the wheat and leave
the chaff for your slaves?
Whichever, when will it happen?
(tired of false dates, please be honest this time)
A:
I know 100% sure there is no end time, at least not like it is being portrayed everywhere, be it
religion, media, etc.
This place was never meant to end the way it is being described.
There will be a time when everyone will be released but that is not a mass event, but rather 1 by
1....work on yourself.


Q:
I´m curious to know why the Elite do not lead? They seem to be more of a parasite on society.
A:
A fish in the ocean can´t see that birds are flying in the sky.

Q:
Have you or any of your family members ever participated in an occult ritual and, if yes, what was the
nature of it?
A:
Rituals have a meaning which cannot be understood by most.
Rituals are there to connect with the higher beings who govern this realm.
We are doing our job.


Q:
well I´d have to say your divine law has fucked up this planet and its people very well!
A:
Peasants like you don´t understand that you do it, nobody else.
Btw, by what you just said you lenghtened your stay here on Earth one more lifetime....my
condolences.


Q:
Do you frequent the Bohemian Grove and fully participate... in cremation of care.. sacrifice to
Molech ... screwing the male homosexual prostitutes... orgies ... etc..
A:Those and other similar places are for the politicians and media people, they are obligated.
Sometimes a bloodline will be present but will not participate in those acts which are not the
rituals we do.


Comment from Insider:
Accidental Stoner
Those were many questions....
Most I would answer yes, some no.
Don´t believe all that "gurus" tell about us and you will do fine.

Q:
do you consider the prevalence/success of organised crime families and syndicates as a massive failure
of your colle3ctive will?
A:
They are there for a reason.
They aren´t as succesful as they look though, they are broken.


Q:
Why do you continue to attempt to control mass consciousness by by spreading fear though every
outlet available to you.
Why not set the knowledge free as was intended long ago, the written word is spreading the wings of
truth.
The sword has been given to the sheep, and the day of reconing is soon at hand. I believe in no law of
divinity or hierarchy, we are all equal unto th eyes of the creator and for that must you answer in your
time.
The meek are inheriting the Earth presently, I pray for you.
A:
If that was the aim, it would be done in an instant.
You do not understand what this world we live in really is.


Q:
I have no questions. I do however have a statement.
The time of reckoning is at hand.
A:
It is not.

Q:
it goes..the best slave is one who thinks he is free.
13..ultimately it is all a matter of genes, n´est ce pas?
do you understand self-cloning?
do you agree that the planet is replete with false allies and false enemies?
A:
That´s not how it originaly goes....about the slave.
If you read carefuly you will see.
Last question has a yes as an answer, there are also no real allies or enemies.


Q:
Op IF you are indeed who & what you say you are, then you will know that you and your ilk are in big
trouble... Your time is short and those you belong to, who are in our space quadrant as we speak,
already know it! I imagine they are a tad busy right at this moment. But of course you must keep up
appearances even when you know you fight a losing battle.
Personally I will be very happy to see the day... and it is coming, sooner than you think ;)
A:
There is no end of time.
A long time ago, the people did ALMOST manage to take over, and then bad things happened on
earth to those people....what are you seeing now?
Are you really living on the planet you think you are?


Q:
The "higher beings who govern this realm", do you serve them? By what names do you call them?
Have you ever seen them? Where do they reside?
A:
They penetrate everything and they are benevolent.

Q:
dang insider you skipped my question about what really hit the pentagon....does that mean you aren´t
going to answer it?
A:
Does it matter what hit it?

Q:
Too much question dodging
A:
I did not sign a contract which says I have to answer everything.
Some questions do not need an answer and others do not mean a thing eventhough you think it
does.

I will be back tomorrow.

9/25/2005
Statement by Insider:
How strange that some of you who talk about love, light and peace are the ones who 2 sentences
later cuss and talk about murdering others, smirking about it being soon..
Are you sure you are on the "good" side?
And who is Natascha?
For the ones who are a bit smarter than that, ask away, I will answer the way I choose to.
Before you ask the question, force yourself to think outside the box that was created for you by
others...ask a real question that you thought about, formulate it in detail.
For the others, if you could leave out cussing, hate, bigotry and prejudice (which is based on your
gurus´ amazing wisdom), it would show you are a bit more evolved from the peasant stage.
I will not answer all questions, sometimes because it is obvious if you think about it or parts of it
have been answered, other times because I do not have the obligation to do so.


Q:
so is bill gates more elite than you?
how about queen elizabeth?
are you an arab?
can´t you control the oil instead of the arabs?
A:
The ones you know the names of are not true bloodlines like you have been taught by theorists.
They are not the ones who write the symphony, neither conduct it.
The ones you mentioned and other known names merely play the violin or cello when they are
told to, the way they are told to.
It does not matter what race I am, has no effect on anything.
Oil is already under full control like all natural resources.


Q:
Why does visualization work?
A:
It does not work for everybody, you have to reach a certain stage in your development.
This means living by strict rules, applying them to everything you do in life, in detail.
Most humans do not have the discipline nor temparence to achieve that stage.
Some here talk like they can, but I know even without knowing anything about their lives that
they are further away from it than they think.
"Visualisation" works because it is an essential way of the creational process in this material
universe.
The Universe is a living entity who uses it´s Mind to create and the beings created from that may
have that same power to within their boundaries.


Q:
Now the question is, who is using Icke?
and better question... Why?
A:
Icke has a core of truth he is trying to pass.
What he does not realise is that this actually works against him.
The reptilian part was fed him by the ones who work for the bloodlines.
In a period of 7, 8 months he was bombarded with "victims" who witnessed shape-shifting,
satanic rituals, etc. in such a way he could not refuse to not believe it.
Sometimes the "witnesses" were lead to him a few times a day, depending on his location.
Others like Icke (and there are more than you think) have been fed similar stories.
Really, I am not reptilian.
The answer why does not have to be answered.


Q:
Hello Insider!
Are you part of the Divine Brotherhood? Are you ME? Are you he who manipulates the Matrix?
Enquiring minds want to know, cuz I´m thoroughly confused. You say we despise you, but I could not
imagine despising any Being from the Devine Realms! Then you act like your part of the "elite
bloodline" on Earth, but what would bloodlines have to do with the Spiritual world? Again...I´m
confused. Could you clarify? Just what IS the Elite of whom you say we despise, and yet who
apparently has all the "inside scoop"??
sigh Sammie
A:
You are confused for you have accepted the other versions of the "truth" and you think you have
a sight of the big picture, but what I say dismisses huge parts of it.
There is a misconception about bloodlines....obviously, the questions that are being asked here
prove that.
But there is a reason for that, and it serves an important purpose.
We manipulate this world only as far as we are allowed to by the Divine Law.
We provide you with tools and then it us up to you to determine how you use it.
Tools can be used in a maliscious way but noone is forcing you to use them that way....you are
choosing yourself.
So despising the ones who provide you with the tool that you voluntarily chose to "sin" with is
about you trying to camouflage your tracks.
You get what you deserve, that is how this universe works.
We do our duty, so do yours.


Q:
There is a very old saying...unrecorded in open history--"the devil doesn´t know he´s the devil...he
thinks he´s God."
A:
Wrong.
It actually states that humans who worship the "bad" think they worship the "good".


Q:
"You do not understand what this world we live in really is."
-----------
Care to elaborate on this statement...?
Regards,
Further Considerations
A:
Only if you formulate the question and understand that certain questions need to be answered by
yourself only not others, otherwise they have no purpose.


Q:
Hey 13 --
I´m not coming back to your planet next time.
Smoke on that.
A:
What gave you the impression that when that time comes, you have a say in that?

Q:
What is the reason that your people came to this planet?
A:
Almost the same reason you came.

Q:
Now, what "elite" family does anyone know well enough to "despise"?
Dubya, is that you?
A:
To clear this up once and for all....the Bushs are not bloodline.....in fact, they are your kind who
wanted to be worshipped by your kind.
I will sum it up again in short, the ones that have known faces/names are not directly bloodline.
They are not the composers/conductors, they just play the flute the way they are told to.
Bushs, Clintons, Sharons, Arafats, Hitlers, Dalai Lamas, Mandelas, Blairs, Gores, Chavezs,
Ghandis, Kennedys, Lennons, Dylans, Einsteins, Michaelangelos, Popes, Ceasars, Aristotles,
Herodotus, Akhenatons.
They all play/played their part the way they are/were told to.
These people who love recognition and praise of your kind would not be allowed to be in the
same room with some people I am related to.


Q by forum owner Trinity :
Insider,
Rather than give them a sword (or a toothpick), I give them a canvas and a pen.
The words as you say have vibration and effect.
And though yes many that are written here are contrary to the ONE, some ring true.
It is those few, that matter most.
I was recently asked by a friend of mine,
"what do you do when you have mastered the game?"
This seems like a question that would apply to one in your situation as well.
My answer was, "save as many as you can".
I am curious to know, What is yours?
A:
If it has an immediate effect it is not a canvas and a pen anymore but a sword...an imaginary one
but nonetheless a sword.
And it is not working the way you think it does.
You say most are contrary to the One and that is true, in fact almost all is contrary.
But you say because of the few that ring "true" it is worth it.
You cannot have 2 contrary essences at the same time/place eventhough they may have the same
spring.
Which means one of the 2 is not present here....do I have to tell you which one that is?
About mastering the game.
How does one know they have mastered it?
Does someone else tell them?
See, if the "master" is not really a master yet he acts like one it will mean he will make errors.
He will have flawed thoughts and act accordingly.
People will start listening to him and adopt the flawed opinions and way of living.....eventually he
will do more harm than 1 bloodline actually has the power to do personally.
Hence why "leaders" have been created for you who "have mastered their game".
Jesus of Nazareth is a nice example.
He was created, this human has many worshippers and they have murdered in his name and still
do (Bush).
Jesus of Nazareth was not a master of the game, he was a puppet being used in the game and he
still is serving the agenda among you.
So you might think you are saving as many as you can like him but are you really?
How would I answer the question "what do you do when you have mastered the game?"
Checkmate.


Q:
Is Earth a prison?
A:
Yes and even worse.
The ones who believe the contrary will never escape.


Q:
Why, oh why would an alleged member of an "elite family" waste one minute minute of their time, or
give credence to the cespool that is GLP?
A:
Bloodlines are not robots who all act the same.
You are confusing the ones who you think control you with others.


Q:
Now on the population reduction... We have a few brewing like AIDS... however, it has been my feeling
that the "release" of a bio, will be in a timely fashion cloaked in chaos from another event. What say
you on that?
A:
There is no plan to reduce the population, that is fully in the hands of the people.
However certain events have been seen as just that while they are serving another purpose....a
misconception.
Just because it comes across like population reduction does not mean it is exactly that.
Really, if the goal was population reduction, it would have been done a long time ago in a span of
a few weeks.
In fact the opposite is more true in most areas on this planet.
What you said could happen but it would be done by the ones who control the lower areas.
The ones up higher do it through the daily items you consume.


Q:
Was Yahweh an extraterrestrial negative entity? Or was he a fiction invented by the Jewish fantasy
factory during the time the Greeks ruled Palestine?
A:
If the name of an entity is public, it means it is fabricated.
Yahweh used to represent an age where mass-control was taking shape.


Q:
Ah, so Mormons are the only ones who are barking up the right tree. Authority and all that.
A:
No.

Q:
1). Don´t you get sick and tired of the lack of real quality in the Music and the Movies?
With your power/money/influence why do you not prime the pump with some really good stuff?
2). What are the three things that have you concerned about most regarding the upsetting of the
applecart? [Things that are beyond the direct control of the PTB that you are scrambling to prepare
against]
3). Who owns and runs the show on planet earth? Please list the major player groups who actually
answer to each successive level beginning from the top down. Descriptions are fine if you don´t want to
divulge names. Is it like a pyramid, or is it a number of factions vying for power/control?
4). What is the real story on the greys and are they still major players currently?
5). What do you fear the most?
6). What is the real story you haven´t told us because we haven´t asked yet??
A:
1. The ones who search hard will find the gems in Music, in fact they are out in the open.
It is not our duty to enlighten you, that is yours.
We hand out the tools that can be used in the way you choose to, "good or bad".
2. Nothing to do with us but with the puppets.
3. The shape of a Pyramid yes, but people forgot the underground chamber.
The Top of the Pyramid is not the top.
5. Fear is based on physical impulses, the physical is not important.


Q:
My full-blood Italian maternal lineage traces back to King Charles I (Charlemange) but by name,
Count Dotto Dotti who was the captain of the archers for Prince Phillipe (King Charles IV) and who
was part of the coup to secure the ´secret´ from the Merovingians and the Knights Templar. I won´t
discuss the secret, which I am sure of, but I don´t understand why you operate in the fashion that you
do and I operate in the fashion that I do then as a result. This does not mean that I am of any
particular bloodline that is part of the ultimate that you speak of, but my life is far more progressive
than anyone that I know scientifically and professionally regardless of the economy (change thereof
coming shortly). And I do see the ´illusion´ all around me.
Explain this please.
A:
I have explained it a bit.
Your lineage is not what you think it is.
Charlemagne (like other "kings") merely played the flute, like his descendants do now in politics
especially.
However if there are traces of the lineage within you (and this goes deeper than just blood and
genes as you know) then obviously you will understand your surrounding better than others.
There are people who are directy linked and they will act differently.


Q:
Do you think Insider that
This current battle is in two stages. Now, on the etheric. And, a thousand years from now, on the
astral, once all the HEart people have dropped their physical bodies and HAVE GRADUATED TO
HIGHER LIFE FORMS, THE NEXT BEING THE ASTRAL. Then,
The whole show starts all over again, with different players.
A:
You are confusing a few matters.
There is just 1 struggle and it is now, here on this planet and on a personal level....meaning you
only.
There is no enemy you can attack except yourself.
If you are busy attacking something else, you are wasting precious energy and you will fail.
If you succeed, there will be no struggle anymore.


Q:
Dear Insider,
You state that we have the tools to work with. Can you tell us some of them, something to work with so
we may free ourselves?
You agree that we are on a prison planet. I thought more like a Zoo, where we are being observed and
studied. But if we are on a prison planet, than I must understand that we truly have no free will.
Correct?
Thank you
A:
The tools are in your hands, around you, everywhere...it is even being drawn out of you.
It is your duty towards yourself to reveal them to yourself and then do as you please with
them....there is always a consequence.
Prisoners still can determine what they do in their prison with the tools that were provided to
them, they can decide how to walk in the yard, how to talk, think...
You have free will therefore you suffer and are aware of your suffering.

Q:
Dear Insider,
Thank you for answering my first two questions and your time.
I should have asked this question with the first two, but alas I do now. Why give me tools to escape a
prison? Sounds counter productive to what a prison is for.
I have known that the PTB are puppets moved around by hands that we cannot see, nor may ever see,
but why make them look and act (seemingly) stupid or at the least illogical? Are you wanting a
revolution?
What you are saying is that the war is within - not without - though TPTB seem to want us to think it is
without - why distract us? What is it that they don´t want us to accomplish? Freedom?
And yes, I am reminded everyday of my suffering.
Thanks
A:
We are neutral and doing our duty which many times comes across as being negative.
If you observe closely you will see we merely spreading the tools which can be used by you to free
yourself or chain yourself, your choice.
The Divine Law has a purpose for you and it is not on this planet.
Prove you are worthy again to be released.
The distraction is part of that.
It is about knowing who is and who is not.
The ones who support any of these known faces are failing.


Q:
It sounds like you are cautioning Trinity against giving full reign to freedom of speech? Is thi correct?
A:
He may do as he pleases and accept the consequences in the bigger picture.

Q:
What is your interpretation of the Divine Law and how can I make peace with myself?
A:
Knowing yourself and where you really are, are the 2 most important issues that you should be
involved with.
It is your task to find out.
In fact, if someone gave you the correct answers, it would not mean a thing to you for they would
not be attached to you in a way they would if you would have found them yourself.
If you find the answers to those, you have accomplished a huge part of your duty towards
yourself.
After that your task would be living according to the Divine Law which is revealed to you after
that stage untill departure.

I may be back tomorrow, maybe Tuesday.

9/26/2005
Statement by Insider:
NOTE: I am Insider, AC 13, the former proxy I was using disappeared.
So I am using another one with another ID.

Statement by Insider:
Insider/AC 13 again, yet another proxy....the last one disappeared too right after posting.
It is getting difficult for me to enter and stay here but I will go on as long as possible.

Q:
Question to the insider (AC 13):
Are you familiar with the Black Nobility?
I have traced and linked all ancient royal families of Europe and the Middle East still present to this
day. I know their names and their connections to power, wealth and influence across the world.
I can even identify the very person who is the potential Anti-Christ (he has all the correct makings - a
wonderful, benign young man who has yet to realize his full potentiality as a world leader). The Black
Nobility love this young man.
And lastly, are you a small part of the Black Nobility, Insider?
A:
The Dark Nobility is a faction which operates on their own, they have different roots which have
been described in texts written by my ancestors.
It is a much smaller group than most would claim, because the core is different to the "outer
walls".
They are the ones which you all confuse with my kind and therefor direct the hate towards the
wrong ones (as shown in this thread too by the lesser intelligent).
About the Anti-Christ....there are at this moment literally billions of Anti-Christs.
I am not one.
You will find them among Christians, Muslims, Jews, Atheists, Satanists, Agnostics, Buddhists,
Hindus, etc.
They don´t need a leader to be more Anti-Christ.
I have to make clear that The Christ has nothing to do with Jesus of Nazareth, that part was later
fabricated.


Q:
Gnostic number 13,do you subcribe to the view,that our dualistic reality provides excellent
opportunities for souls to develop unconditional love,so they may transcend our dialectic
universe,rather than escaping from it?
Do you also believe in the law of balance and karma,allowing a soul to be king in one lifetime,a
beggar in the next? If so,it doesn´t really matter whether you´re a member of the elite,it may be a
unique experience on soul level,as unique as any role in society,as long as the soul progresses.
Is the historian Laurence Gardner a powerful member of the elite as Icke claims,or is he just an
average guy with access to hidden information? Thanks for your communication,Insider.(hope this
thread isn´t a practical joke by some juvenile person.Trust you´re for real)
A:
It is the task of every soul to accomplish that while in this human shape.
There is a part that can be called escaping which will be followed by transcending....if failing,
reincarnation.
However the word "love" is misunderstood....it is not meant to be the love in human terms which
humans are enslaved by.
That is the corrupt version of the real one.
The Divine Law controls what is called karma, but it is much broader and "harsher" than people
want to accept.
Example: someone who gets cancer and dies a slow painful death deserves it, that person is being
corrected, it is for his own good.
Sounds "harsh"?
That´s the way it works.
Just because it comes across as negative in this realm does not mean it is negative in the big
picture.
What you are talking about (reincarnating into the opposite of your former life), there is no
universal law which states that will definitely happen.
Reincarnation is a fact though, but if you achieve your task there is no reincarnation, no need to
experience all levels of life on Earth for they are mainly pointless to experience.
Gardner is one of those persons who wants to be praised and recognised by the people, so he gets
it in return for some favors (spreading misinfo which here and there contain the facts, which
hooks people).
He was initiated in certain levels but it is not as in depth as one would think (including himself),
he is clever though.
He is a member of at least 6 "societies" (although 3 of them are closely linked and could be seen
as 1, so 4 at least) but these have only as much power/control as you the people give them.
People like Icke are giving them more power unknowingly.
I am real.


Q:
Is this because Christians teach that individuals should be under the control of a God who is holy? Or
should I say, one who judges right and wrong?
A:
Christianity is about idolising a human called Jesus of Nazareth first, which is an abomination.
Christians teach what they have been told to teach by the ones they oppose.
I can tell you who the 4 individuals were who wrote the Hebrew old testament and the exact date,
if it suited me.
Same about your new testament which was gathered by 6 people from 2 different areas.


Q:
And why do you misspell simple words such as ´malicious´? I find that very interesting.
A:
English is not my native language, not even my second nor third, maybe fourth and I type fast
without checking so I can answer as many questions as possible in a limited amount of time.
On top of this I just realized I have to type even faster because the proxies I use disappear.


Q:
Why do you choose to speak Now?
A:
Some of us have the task to do it within certain boundaries.
How do you suppose certain knowledge in past times was suddenly there?
Luck, chance, coincidence?


Q:
Questions
0 - What is this Divine Law you talk about?
1 - Why do you MANIPULATE this world?
2 - Why do - YOU - manipulate this world?
3 - How do you know who is allowing you?
4 - Is your job given to you or taken by you?
5 - Are you a Human Being?
-------------- YOU AGAIN -------------
"The Divine Law has a purpose for you and it is not on this planet. Prove you are worthy again to be
released."
-------------- ME AGAIN -------------
I know it and i can feel it. There is a purpose for my life.. But I don´t even know who i am let alone that
i know what my purpose is.
6 - How is this knowledge gained? By hard work or does it simply happen to one?
7 - Do you know the purpose of yur life? If so how did you learn about it?
Regarding the planet we live on:
8 - On which planet do we live? What is the Planet earth anyway?
9 - What can you tell us about Mohammed (pbuh)?
A:
0. The Divine Law is the manifestation of the Will of the Superior One which not only creates
everything that exists within this universe but also maintains, nourishes, balances, energises and
renews it.
It also reigns in other realms, including the realm you originally belong to.
1. + 2. I have answered this many times, it is our duty.
3. + 4. Rituals have a purpose.
If you are doing something which was not allowed or doing a task which was not given to you,
you will suffer during these rituals.
In your daily life you will notice it too.
Emanations have many forms and one who knows about these matters will have no trouble
recognising with whom he is dealing with and what the message is.
5. I am like you present in this human shape.
6. This has been answered by me in a previous post, in short you have the duty to "gain it".
Temperance will lead you to the rightful place from where it all starts.
Before this you must know yourself and what this place is (where most people go wrong),
otherwise your thoughts will be filled with error which will lead to erroneous ways.
7. Yes.
These matters are not passed on to you in detail by someone, that actually will lead to the
opposite of what needs to be achieved (hence my way of answering, understand this).
You can be guided up to a certain point and then it is up to you.
9. Looking at the way you summon his name I assume you are a Muslim.
It is a "sin" to worship/idolize/praise humans who were part of this planet in any way, shape or
form, including when talking/writing about them.
You by adding those letters in brackets have just done that, elevating his name up to that of
higher beings.
A human is corrupt while on this planet.....each and single one of them.
A "death" does not change the personality one had and leave behind here, do not feed it.
Praise and prayers may only be offered to perfect beings.
Muhammed was like Jesus, Mozes, Abraham, Buddha, a human who was lead to believe he was a
knower, or like mentioned earlier "master of the game".
It is very easy to make humans believe they are enlightened and know the truth...and then
thinking it is their task to wake up others.
He was used and his legacy is still being used to divide people, just like the other
religions/ideologies/"philosophies".
2 of his closest assistants were servants of the bloodlines, 1 of his wives was too (bloodline
servants were also assistants of Jesus, Buddha, Mozes, name them all).
After his death it was made sure by these 3 that his followers would be divided which was the
main thing Muhammed was told to be against.
So Muslims who believe in seperate streams of Islam are actually rebelling against their own
"prophet"....and that would be pretty much all Muslims.
The kuran has a core of truth but it is floating in a sea of perversions, together with the other
"holy" books.
It was written by 4 individuals from 3 "countries" 1 being western, 2 middle-eastern.


Q:
Insider 13 are you Antichrist?
A:
Jesus of Nazareth is not the Christ, nor is anything I have said Anti-Christ.
The ones who claim the opposite are.


Q:
So, is a family where the children are naturally born with this ability *viisualization*, part of the
´bloodline´?
A:
No.
In fact someone who has no connections to these families whatsoever can have this ability too.
This ability is there for everyone to receive.....you have to dial in.
It is being provided by the Divine Law to everything that searches for it.
I tried to make this clear earlier.....the blood/genes/etc are not as important as they seem.
The physical realm is weak and it cannot affect the Divine.
Someone with no connections to the families can be affected by Divinity in such a way that he
could surpass anything the bloodlines ever could achieve combined.
Certain individuals get born into the bloodlines to be able to reign over the people under certain
circumstances, that is what the bloodline mainly is about.


Q:
To me Elite means those who place money before people or any real values at all....and those who hold
office either because they can buy it or inherit it regardless of whether or not they are qualified.
A:
You just skillfully described your kind, not mine.

Q:
are you a Rothschild? Here is my question, although petty in light of the many questions posed to you
on this thread, why aren´t the any of the Rothschilds listed in Forbes top 500 richest people.
A:
If you read closely you would have not asked this question.
The ones who are known in public are not in control, the Rothschilds are at the same level as
your Knights Templar ancestors were....you shouldn´t be proud that you are from that lineage by
the way.
These known families/clans/societies are merely dancers to the tune.
But to answer your question, no I am not a Rothschild.
Which family am I from?
Most here talk about the bloodlines who rule, yet they do not know who they are.
They wrongly assume they are the Bushs/Clintons/Rothschilds/etc. because some theorists
"researched" it and some "insiders" told them by providing evidence.
I am from a ruling family whose name rarely has been mentioned in history, noone will even
know who we are.
Second, you accepting Forbes as a reliable source for these kind of lists shows you are easily
manipulated and do not grasp what is happening.


Q:
Worthy ....an interesting word. Are you expecting those of us who know about the world of polarity and
try our best not to play the polarity game, to believe that we need to be worthy? In whose eyes? It can
only be our own.
Whatever happened to the idea that ´the Universe is within us´? Gaia and all other dimensional
´realities´ are Illusions, No? So the prison is an illusion, right?
p.s. Baby, and btw, we DON´T HAVE FREE WILL ON THIS PLANET....perhaps you slip is showing?
A:
Do you know who manufactured this new age nonsense you just promoted?
If this prison is a "true illusion", get out then right now, I dare you.
It is not like in the movies.
You play the victim part.
You do not even accept you have free will, therefore you will always be ruled over, never prevail
and deserve everything you get according to universal laws.
I may be back tomorrow.


9/27/2005
Statement by Insider:
Test
Before I start, I have to say I cannot see all posts, some are blank so I may miss questions.
If so ask again.
Refrain from asking the same questions over and over again, first check the thread, check my
answers, I do tell about areas which were not asked about but may have been on your mind, read
carefully.

Q:
...and if these beings are LUCIFERS...?????
answer in 5 words or less, pleze
A:
You used 12 words and 1 number, without realising it you started a part of a ritual...are you a
"being of lucifer"?
Different beings have different characteristics which makes it easy to identify them during
rituals.
If it was a "malicious" being guiding me, I would not be talking in the way I do.
Someone who is lead by "malicious" forces cannot utter/write certain words, phrases without it
affecting him.
The ones who are lead by them also cannot accept hearing/reading certain things without getting
overly mad/agressive (see the thread for examples).
This is when "malicious" beings are present:
Everytime you cuss, talk negative, plot a scheme, get violent, utter lies, support murder, get
sexually aroused, get afraid, get jealous, even laugh out loud, being overly joyfull (so all related to
emotions/passions/desires), they appear near you.....one, two, three, or more of them.
"Malicious" beings are from this realm, this is their home.
You cannot hate them for they are doing their task, their rightful duty and it is connected to your
behaviour....understand, you are the perpetrator, they react.
They never instigate, you do.
If you do hate them you are missing an important part of the reality....respect them up to a
certain point.
This will also show you are conscious about them and that will be recognised.
I type "malicious" because they are not malicious, they only appear to you in your manufactured
perception to be so.
People are perpetrators who play the victim part.


Q:
1 How does real conciousness interface with this prison?
2 What are the techniques to break the hold of the interface and "free" the conciousness?
A:
1 + 2. Depends what is meant by real conciousness and interface, from where I stand they could
be almost the opposite of what you may mean.
Real conciousness is what is provided to you when you are in tune with the Mind of the Universe
which operates according to the Divine Law (they are not the same like many are lead to believe).
This Mind penetrates everything, it rules over everything, so if you would connect with it you
may experience it´s unlimited power.
No prison can confine this power, hence there will be an escape, you will be guided up to a certain
point, yet most work is to be done by you.
But that is just the beginning, much work lies ahead concerning yourself.
I have explained a few times as far as I am allowed to how to connect, at least how to start with it.
It truly is up to you.
I would hesitantly add that studying ancient texts will help (although a lot is filled with
perversions and wrong translations, intentionally) but this only after a certain level of
awakening, you will recognise/remember the small parts which are true.
If you are not on that level you will take parts of the perversions/wrong translations as the truth
(as a few show it here, especially 1 religious stream) and fail.


Q:
Care to tell us which it is? You some sorta good guy who gives up tools or do you rule over us?? DId
you change your mind or what??
A:
Neutral means in the terms I used, neither negative nor positive, merely providing the tools you
can choose to use as you wish....you are the perpetrator.
Or would you say I control every aspect of your life, every hour, every minute, every second and
force you what to think/say/do?
Do not be mad at the wrong individual.


Q:
Is it necessary to know why we are here to escape, or just work out where we are?
Are the answers to be found "inside" or by "joining" soocieties, or by appealing top divine
intervention, or all three?, or none.
You have answered no other of my questions, I hope I have not offended
A:
It is necessary to have a view of the whole spectrum, when it is partial it will be like looking
through the window while it is partially covered with a curtain.
You do not know what is behind that covered part therefore cannot act accordingly.
What covers the whole spectrum?
Understand this place, what and where it is, know what you are, how you came here, why you
came here, how to return.
Prepare yourself for the answers, cleanse yourself, reach out for the Mind, speak (within-"without")
that you are ready, live strictly according to the answers.
Do not join "secret societies", never, whatever the circumstances are.
Also no religions, including the new age, do not accept human
gurus/prophets/priests/rabbis/imams/popes/fortunetellers/"med​iums"/dalai
lamas/politicians/authors/scientists/"celebrities"/parents/et​c. as legitimate authority on Divine
matters....on other matters it is your choice to accept or decline, however accept the consequence.
You only need yourself and the Divine, no intervention by others in bodies....again, no
intervention by anybody.
If your father asks you for a glass of water to show if you care for him and are disciplined, do you
bring it directly to him or do you take the glass of water to your neighbor and ask him to tell you
what it is that your father really asked, while the neighbor did not hear it and now is drinking the
glass of water himself?
Am I also a neighbor?
I have not touched the glass of water, I opened the door and told you to go back to your father.
No one has offended me, people offend themselves.
I would be offended if what I say was against the One and if it is, I shall pay.
I answer the questions from where I left and type as much as time allows me.
Sometimes I skip a question because it has been answered, other times the question is irrelevant
and now also because I can´t see all posts.


Q:
So, what are your comments on NESARA/PLANET X/POLE SHIFT/FIRST CONTACT/SECOND
COMING?
Who or what is behind these fairy tales and why?
A:
NESARA: counterproductive to you personally in the long run.
PLANET X: does not exist anymore like so many planets, moons, stars, galaxies.
Their demise however always brings forth something, which means they never stop being part of
the whole, playing their part.
POLE SHIFT: it happened 2 times to my knowledge, in the 2nd and 3rd era, if necessary it will
be done again.
SECOND COMING: you returning back to where you belong after you have succeeded, which
means a second coming cannot take place on Earth for you do not belong here.
People who are waiting for a "saviour" on Earth to do all the work for them are all failing.
I have noticed some Christians have gotten angry and are attacking me on a personal level by
damning me, it is their choice.
I talked more about Christianity than other religions because the questions gave room for that.
I would say and have said similar things about the other religions/ideologies when asked about
them.


Q:
What interests me is this: if someone takes the time and trouble to follow up the leads and clues left in
numerous books and legends, and sorts out the wheat from the chaff, what then? If that person puts
into practice what they have learnt, do they come closer to the truth that the bloodlines evidently have
access to?
A:
Yes.
Again, the bloodline is only important for ruling over people, it is not about having a special
power that makes one more aware, although the knowledge is being passed on so therefore it
appears like that.
But this knowledge is not hidden, the Truth cannot be hidden, It wants to be known by you,
inviting you every moment of your life.
That is the reason why It through the ruling powers is being provided to you accompanied with
perversions, corrupt additions. to confuse and make you accept the latter.
There is not 1 written book which contains the Truth and nothing but the Truth.
Pick It out and live accordingly to It, incorporate It into every aspect of your life....that is the
hardest part for people for you have to float above this physical/material world while being in the
body that dictates the opposite.


Q:
How close to the truth are the writings of Neale Donald Walsch in his Conversations with God series?
Are you in any way related to the Bird Tribes mentioned in Ken Carey`s Starseed Millenium books?
Is there much truth in the writings of Sheldan Nidle of www.paoweb.com ?
A:
The Native Americans have preserved knowledge succesfully but nowadays (and the last century
orso) it is being presented in an erronneous fashion.
Integration is "working".
About the authors mentioned; like I posted before it is not in your interest to accept human
intervention/advisors/salesmen between you and the Divine.
They may say certain things which are true, yet it will never be complete.


Q:
Noone on this earth has the power to "free" any of us. Noone outside this earth sees a reason to free
any of us. The divine source itself (if there is such a thing) is waiting for us to free our own selves,
individually. There will be no "mass ascention" no "mass enlightenment" and "we the people" have all
been duped by "we the people" into prolonging our sentence here. We can stay here in this place for
eternity if that is our choice, and we have created a belief system that allows us to do so.
A:
I would leave out the sentences "Noone outside this earth sees a reason to free any of us." and
"(if there is such a thing)".
About the first sentence, there was a time when there were beings who had the power to do it but
that was not their task.
And The Divine Source IS....there is no "waiting", "wanting", etc.
You are on the way, the other post showed that too, but living it is an important part of the task.


Q:
And by Divine Law, Christ was sent here to correct the situation.
A:
Yes, but Christ did not descend into the body of a human called Jesus of Nazareth, 2014 years
ago on March 20th, almost 2 hours before sunrise (which is the secret time of birth of your "son
of god").
The Christ (which has a different "real" name but I will use this name here) appeared once, just
once, and this was in another era, not even close to our era where Jesus of Nazareth also lived in.
Do you know who keeps the knowledge about the real Christ alive?
And do you know who keeps the knowledge about the fake christ(s) alive?
The opposite of what you are thinking.


Q:
Why do all elitists worship lucifer the liar and deceiver?
A:
Billions of people on this planet are serving their own corrupt
material/physical/mental/emotional desires, are they all elitist?


Q:
Is there currently a family feud between the "higher beings"?
A:
The higher beings are not in physical bodies, they have no "feuds", they are not under the
control of this realm therefore cannot suffer from this.
You are referring to human bloodlines and I reckon it is pretty obvious from what I have been
writing here what the answer to your question is....their always have been some who do not do
their duty.
I am from a minority.
People do not see a difference between the factions.


Q:
Red Chinese get HAARP retaliation for Rita: Super Typhoon ** Eye for Eye **
?????????????????????????????
What about this`???
A:
Do not pay attention to the "world events", they are all orchestrated to make you pay attention
to them.
The struggle you should pay attention to is on a personal level.


Comment by Insider:
Charlane,
Reading what you wrote:
1. You are not acting/talking like one of that lineage, which is a good thing because they were
ignoring their task.
It means that subconsciously you have disattached yourself from that lineage (eventhough
consciously you may not, this is important to understand).
You have passed a certain level which I did too almost 11 years ago.
2. You excelling in certain areas is not just genes, they have a bit different purpose.
It is about what I mentioned above.
Il vecchio sentiero è vicino *The old path is near*
Comment by Insider:
Oazaki / Hiko Seijuro / Aiki-Mei,
Before accepting a certain knowledge, you have to investigate where it comes from.
Do you know where the "knowledge" that you just typed out comes from, when it was released,
how it became and by whose hands?
More importantly, who controlled those hands documenting it?
I am saying this with the best of intentions.
If you knew it, you would not have posted it in that fashion.
Investigate the roots of what you said and see for yourself, it is for your own good.
Knowledge does not just appear out of nothing, it is passed on, always...there are no exceptions.


Q:
And, you´re part of an "elite family", that we despise, yet, no one has ever heard of you?
Why would we despise someone(s), that we don´t know of?
Why do we despise you?
Do we even know that we despise your family?
Or, is it because of what you know about what we consume on a daily basis that we would despise you,
if we knew what it was?
and
If the ones we know the names of are not the "true bloodlines" and you say that you are a member of
an elite family whom we despise, then you are inferring that we know you, in order that we may
despise you. How can this be, if the "true bloodlines" are the names and faces of people we do not
know? Is it more the nature of your presence we despise or the position you take in life we despise?
And, if that is so, then do all people despise you or just those who do not know or understand your true
intent and/or nature?
A:
Last time I will answer this one.
It is about the misconception about who rules.
Terms are being used which do not apply to my family yet they are part of the ruling.
The flawed perception of the nature of the presence and the flawed perception about the
positions which lead to affecting the lives of people...again, you are in control.
One cannot despise others because of one´s own lack of understanding about the matter, yet that
is exactly what happens.
I.e. wrong target, wasted energy.


Q:
13, if the divinity is passed down through your blood, what type of blood/rh do
you and yours possess? Are you part of the Templars or involved with The Vatican?
A:
Divinity can choose to pass it´s power "down" however it wishes to.
But the blood/genes/physical part is such a small part of how it goes.
In fact it is not a necessity.....sounds like a contradiction?
No, the proof is around you.


Q:
"What you said could happen but it would be done by the ones who control
the lower areas". The ones up higher do it through the daily items
you consume."
I wanna know what you know about this.
A:
I do not know you personally, but I already know I do not eat or drink 90%
of what you do daily (to throw in a percentage). I do not even come close
touching them. It is pretty much everything sold with a few exceptions
here and there.
I must add that there are grades in this and it has a different effect on different people.
To give examples of the 2 extremes of people who have been consuming
them for a long time; some when eating these almost get into a trance,
on others it has no effect whatsoever. Most people are somewhere in between,
it affects them in such a way that they do not notice. They wear out faster, get tired
faster, grow older, think slower, focus on emotional/physical needs,
get health problems that were unheard of 200 years ago at that relatively young age,
i.e. the quality of life declines.
You are not what you eat, but what you eat controls how you feel about yourself,
the way it makes your body respond. Through your own ignorance and laziness,
you hurt yourself. When is the last time you investigated what exactly is in what
you are eating or how your soda got prepared? When looking into it and finding all
these agents and knowing what they are known to cause, ask yourself; would I put
this agent into the mouth of my child and make him/her swallow it?
You are doing that everyday to your child.
Then there are electrical frequencies as you mentioned, it is everywhere and
your house being the most active place. Have you ever cut the electricity off
in your house to see what the difference in vibe is?
You sleep more comfortable for one.


Q:
And, who/ or what do the "elites" answer to?
A:
Everyone answers to the One eventually.

Q:
Ah the elite in the world, the so-called Jet-Set society. Beautiful to a pain, but
always the same, repeatable features among their few types. All other reptilians,
grays, hybrids, human sell-outs, bend a knee to this level.
A:
The jet-set has nothing to do with the bloodlines.....they are your blood.

Q:
Please tell me, what is your favorite occult subject?
A:
Nothing is hidden.

Comment by Insider:
BTN nli,
Answering certain questions or elaborating on certain issues will have the opposite effect of what
needs to be achieved, it will not help you.
Omar, who was near him during death but denied the death occured (gaining time) and one who
was close to Abu Bakr and lead him to Omar´s speech when he returned from Medina....the wife
is more important though.
It does not matter anymore, it has been done.
I do not use email and my presence here will end within days.


Q:
Do you have any connection with the Annunaki that the Sumerians wrote of?
How close to the truth is the book The Illuminatus! Trilogy : The Eye in the Pyramid, The Golden
Apple, Leviathan by Robert Shea and Robert Anton Wilson?
Is Moroni, who is mentioned in the Book of Mormon really an extraterrestrial from the Pleiades and
are such beings still interacting with humanity at present?
A:
They are not here anymore, that was another era.
Their knowledge was not theirs, knowledge is always passed on hence it being present now.
I have not read it/them (?).
If it is getting critical acclaim and being promoted heavily, you know what time it is.
It may contain some truths, but they will be floating in a sea of perversions.
No one is saying that authors are doing it knowingly by the way.
Some do (praise and recognition loving ones, the ones who "sold their soul"), some don´t and the
latter get noticed and promoted because it serves them.
Nothing is easier than to write a best-seller book/hit album/movie script if you know what the
highest promoter´s agenda is.
Mormons are like the other religious people controlled by the ones who controlled their
"prophets/sons of god/angels/saints/etc".
In this realm a Soul which was in a physical body once can not become an Angel, the Soul cannot
transform into that, again in this realm, I repeat that firmly.
Yet it is claimed that Moroni was resurrected as an Angel in this realm.
Mormonism has a core of truth (like the other religions), so reading the texts will not harm you
as long you are cautious.


Q:
What are the foods etc that are used to control us? Is there anything we should and shouldn´t concume
that would help us to see the reality more clearly? What constitutes "temperance"? - is it moderation in
all things or more than that?
A:
See above for the food part.
It is 1 part of the manipulation, it is used in combination with 6 other methods of control in your
daily life.
If you can "delete" a few from your life or have less exposure to them, the effect will reduce
dramatically, but this is not what will make you more self-conscious.
These methods are used to wear you out, lower your quality of life.
They are interlinked.
The methods are:
1. Food and drinks
2. Medication, "Health care" (include vitamins)
3. Electrical waves (including your PC and cellphone, house electr. network, everything chipped)
4. Media, be it TV-radio-newspapers-magazines-internet (the most obvious method, yet the most
enslaving)
5. Music, Sounds (different method than media, used in a different way although most times
through the media)
6. Air pollution
7. Education system (including known literature which is mostly corrupt, be it history,
psychology, metapsychology, "philosophy", art, science, poetry, religion, even fairy tales told to
infants).
Politics takes these methods and bombard you with this every day and make sure they are
maintained.
The rule is:
If promoted/praised/applauded/critically acclaimed/free, be very wary.
Be it food, medicines, latest technological product, "artist", politician, musician, book, show,
beverage, etc.
Some of these allegedly "stand the test of time", that is orchestrated for a reason.
Problem is if too wary, you could miss a few gems that are deliberately passed on in between the
manipulation tools by some.
There are a few other methods (societies/cults/sects, people policing each other, etc) but the above
6 are the core which has been promoted since the French "Revolution".
Temperance: conscious form of restraint based on self-knowing to achieve inner order of the
Soul (which is the unseen you as a whole, the Soul is not a part of you, you are one).
Restraining the emotions/desires/passions/energies does not mean cutting it off (that will harm
you, beware), but channeling them to work for higher causes after taming them gently.
This all does lead to a sober life, yet simpler, filled with gifts because you fully become your own
master, instead of your emotions/desires/passions dictating you how to be.
Simultaneously with this process you will be cleansing yourself and will be ready to be
enlightened by the Universal Mind.
Be like that which you want to connect with as much as possible.


Q:
1. do you have friends who you meet, from outside the bloodline?
2. Do you feel empathy, hate or remorse?
A:
1. Yes, but it is not a wise thing to know many people.
2. The body forces you to experience emphaty, hate, remorse and all other emotions, together
with desires and passions, to confuse you, make you forget yourself, become a dumbed-down
version of yourself.
They have their foundation in this material/physical world.
The more you let them be your masters, the stronger you will chain yourself to this world, which
is contrary to your duty, yet do not loath them, respect.
I channel them to a place where they can be used for something substantial.


Q:
So I am asking HOW does one re-connect with the
divine source? HOW does one rise above this prison?
A:
I reckon my answers today have covered that, if not to you personally ask again, I shall answer
tomorrow.


Q:
I´m not saying each of us IS God, the Ultimate Source, but we are our OWN god due to the fact that we
CREATE our own reality!
What say you Insider?
A:
You partially described free will and the impression it can give you, nothing more or less.
Also the word "love" has many traps, especially the way you used it.


Q:
Re: earth is a prison ... Are you referring to Light trapped in matter? If yes, then I´m beginning to see
all the points you´ve alluded to so far.
A:
Trapped would be the wrong word, it would imply that the Divine had wrong intentions.
Rather, contructed in a way so... or envelopped through...


Comment by Insider:
3nd3r,
Some of the things you described are directly linked to the powers of the Universal Mind.
Like I said, everyone can pick that up.
If you can it means you are at a higher stage than others, however beware of how you use it, it is
not yours, not in this realm.
Also it could be a deceiving beginning of something else which many people experience.
I reckon 2 rituals would initiate you and let you truly see what it is but when the time arrives you
will be guided to them.


Q:
they include the sheik in the desert whom Jesus encountered during his travels and from whom he
received a blessing. Would you happen to know anything about that?
A:
I know some people which Jesus of Nazareth "happened to encounter" were insiders.
The 3 kings being the first right after his birth, which were actually 5 but 2 were present in the
background (the number 3 in the story serves a symbolic purpose like so many things, read
slowly).
The gifts were the symbolistic artifacts (some ancient) which through rituals would initiate him
into his chosen task, for this he needed to travel to certain places.
I have said a few times and I will repeat for the last time, he was not the real Christ, he was made
to appear like one by being guided throughout his life up to his death, and after that, the
documenting of the words (which started long before his death, although rewritten again at a
later time to release).
The 5 kings were present too during his crucifixion and Jesus of Nazareth knew, he would have
responded differently if they were not there.
Jesus of Nazareth was always aware that he was being guided by them, in fact he sometimes
actively searched for them and other insiders.
He gave up on 2 occasions but was guided back.


Q:
The ´Elite´ are making it (oil) look like it is being constantly restored, but are actually storing it. I`d
appreciate your thoughts on this.
Candace Frieze`s writings
A:
The Earth is storing it untill they get used, the ones in power just tap into it.
Although there are some factions (above the puppets) and they are responsible for the
misconception most have which you described together with the statement that the resources are
disappearing.
It is the way I described in the former post.
The writing has some errors.
1. The Annunaki are rulers from a different era, they are gone and replaced by others.
10.000-15.000 years from now (yes, the Earth will be still alive) people will find texts about the
rulers of this era thinking it still applies to theirs.
Those texts have been written for the major part already.
2. If what was written in this text was true, it would mean that at the moment the Earth, "star
friends" and Angels would be now rebelling against the Divine Law of the One.....which is an
abomination to even suggest (I had to be very carefull how to articulate that to not fall into the
trap too).
If the person who wrote it does not restore it, she will achieve the opposite of what she desires
and taking many Souls with her who accept this.
Again accept no human intervention between you and the Divine.
3. The struggle is on a personal level, that means you only can do it, do not wait for "saviours".


Q:
My only question now: Is it really THIS simple? I will not give away what you have knowingly or
inadvertently revealed... I know now that what you say is true: This cannot be told, it must be
discovered, for it has no power if it is revealed to one.
Is this the reason there is so much secrecy? Not so much that people won´t find out because it is an
"just for the elite" but rather, that if they happened to be TOLD it, instead of discovering it they would
never have any chance of escape?
A:
The Truth wants to be known by you, it is It´s main goal, inviting you every moment of your life,
so to be understood by you It is out of Necessity simple and to be noticed relating to Providence It
is "in front of you".
The last question has a yes as an answer.
If you did find It, thank the Divine Law, nothing/nobody else.
The journey just started, long path.
I may be back tomorrow.


9/28/2005
Statement by Insider which is about testing the new proxy:
Test

Q:
1)Is this simply an "upping of the ante" to test if I have the will to continue, or is there in fact a force
that tries to keep people in a sleepwalking state? A force that does NOT want people to "be all they can
be"?
If so, what is the best way to deal with it in your experience.
A:
It is connected to the operations of your physical body which rebels everytime you reach higher
to that realm.
Physical body has the task to let you experience this reality and whenever you search for the
other, it resists.
It is it´s duty so respecting it and gently taming it is the best approach.
Also beings will accompany your thoughts and try to divert them, again it is their duty, show
respect and that will be recognised by them.
Never see them as malicious or evil, they only react to your actions.
There is not a force which does not want you to be what you really are, the opposite is true but
they also have their tasks that they must fulfill.
This is about a material part of you.


Q:
Shall we forget everything we know? Shall we simply let go of our own Ego and accept a different
paradigm altogether? THAT would be VERY difficult to do, as it has sustained us as individuals in this
life. hmmmm......
A:
Recollect everything you used to know, devalue the things which were taught to you since you
forgot the former and return.


Q:
What advice do you have for raising a child on earth?
A:
I have no children nor will I have one.
The first thing a baby does when born is cry.
It does so because the Soul is conscious of what it has been born into and is in a state of disbelief
(you are more conscious of what you are and where you are during/right after birth than you are
now).
The Soul makes the body cry because it is the first time it came to this physical realm (although
this is a very limited number) or because it realises it has returned through reincarnation, after
failing in the former life (which is a vast majority).
The Soul itself is not the one crying (it is unfamiliar with these functions in it´s original state) yet
the impulses it gives makes the body cry.
It cries "without a reason" for days, weeks, months, untill the consciousness has lost it´s power,
be it through natural processes or the influence of parents and these days even medication...
That is when the human is truly born, after they forget who they are, where they are, some forget
faster than others.
This crying is different to the crying that follows after the first few months, one can even hear it.
Comfort them during this crucial period of consciousness and make it known that the One has
gifted them with a chance to return back to the place they belong.
This will have an impact which will influence them for the rest of their lives, subconsciously.
The time of birth was determined (as is the time of passing on), together with the enviroment,
parents, circumstances of birth, health, etc...nothing is a coincidence.
But during puberty they get cut loose from certain strings and they will be fully responsible for
their actions, having the free will to lead the life they want, they determine the quality of it....they
can even determine the way they pass on ("death") by the choices they make but cannot change
the time of passing on.
Just a few areas of their lives will be influenced by the tools that the parents have given them.
Most of the child´s life will be based on free will, which will have very little to nothing to do with
parents, you are only important in the first 5-6 years of the child´s life so that is where you can do
most good.
Use your intuition (not instinct, 2 different matters).
When becoming a parent you are rewarded with qualities (which concern raising children) which
where not available before, listen to them.
Every child is different, respond differently but make them aware there is more than they
experience, that there is a Good Source where everything/everybody flows out of for a reason and
1 day they will return after realising their task here on Earth.
Do not tell this all at once but over years and do not tell more than this.
If done the right way they will start looking for it on their own for the rest of life, which is their
duty.
If you present it to them in an obvious way (like religious people do), you will achieve the
opposite.
Musical instruments were passed on in a different era for a reason and it was not just to listen to
other people playing them.
Education: 1 method of manipulation (I have listed the others).
They will be manipulated, but after puberty they have an important opportunity to undo it.
They will also get opportunities during the rest of their lives.
You cannot stop the manipulation, neither instigate an awakening, that is up to the child and how
it responds to the tools provided to it.....the Mind of the Universe following Divine Law is always
penetrating your child so it is being provided with the chance to awake every moment.
It is up to him/her.


Q:
What do you know of an advanced race who were (and some still are) worshipped as gods?
Do you recognize any lords or deities?
A:
There is only 1 race at the present, not another special race that is above the other, people are
confusing different matters and eras.
The One is worshipped/praised as what you call "god".
The word "god" is a corrupt term, it would imply that you as a human would have control over
the invocated higher being (like before, I had to be carefull how to phrase it to not fall into the
trap myself).
I would say do not use it, but it is your own choice with consequences.
The One has many manifestations/emanations/characteristics which are present in a hierarchy of
beings with different workings but operating together.
All are incorporeal/immaterial although some may operate bodies in a fashion different to ours,
some by lowering their frequency which is actually emanating a form from themselves, may
appear in the material world.
All are praised for they are the One who creates the Good and they direct theirs to the One too.
You people worship some humans as "gods", be it "prohpets", "celebrity", sportsmen,
politicians, autors, etc. which is an abomination.


Q:
What do you eat? Where does it come from?
A:
What nature provides directly.
I have a greenhouse which provides me with certain vegetables/fruit which sprang from
uncontaminated seeds.
I have some healthy animals which provide me with meat, eggs, milk.
I get my water from an underground spring.
For you to know, bread can be bought at small independent backeries, especially the "foreign"
ones who do not use the same ingredients as the "natives", they are not free from them but better
still.
Some of the food/drinks sold in these "foreign"-run shops will be better for you than the ones
sold in supermarkets.
This is not how the rest of my family lives, they have "servants" which provide them with their
needs with the products from their own properties/factories/farms/etc.


Q:
Insider, what can you tell me about Nikola Tesla?
Do you think he completed/failed his ´mission´ here on Earth?
A:
All knowledge is passed on, Tesla´s was too to him, they are not his original ideas.
2 insiders passed on to him the knowledge, knowing Tesla would use it to advance the plan
(which was alive then) to gain control over the energy resources from certain bloodlines by
dimishing their value with "new" technology.
Tesla made it public to the wrong people and ended the whole thing.
Clever individual, not so clever human.
Insiders from the minority must be vigilant, because of these kind of events.


Q:
Are ther any wholesale events on the horizon that will translate into a quantum leap in mass
consciousness and/or redefine life and the way it is lived?
A:
No, not like that.
As mentioned a few times it is on a personal level, meaning you getting selfconscious yourself
through the tools available to you, I have described some as far as I am allowed to.
There may be an event which would alter the way civilisation is perceived now (it happened
before many times) but that will have nothing to do with what you mentioned.
Your duty towards the One and yourself still stays the same, no matter what happens.
Do not waste energy waiting for events, being generic and inanimate, your stay will only be
extended.
I might add this which may sound contrary to what I said but read carefully:
When masses are made to believe something negative, they may create what they did not want,
which is how for instance the "NWO" like you people name it, works.
You are believing it is taking shape, so it will take shape and theorists are major players in
helping this taking shape by bombarding you with "facts" that it is taking shape.
Claiming you are giving in power everyday, and they control you more...while in reality you are
in full control.
So the people who are "waking up" to it are the ones who are creating it.
Visualization also works that way around.
But I repeat, even if these things would happen your duty towards the One and yourself still stays
the same.


Q:
Have the husband/wife relationships of the "higher beings" been compromised? Have those created to
be together by the One parted ways because they reject their duties?
If so, on which side of this rift do you reside?
Is your God the Self Existent One?
A:
Again their is confusion about Higher Beings and the Souls in bodies be it bloodline or not.
Higher Beings and Souls are different entities.
Higher Beings do not enter bodies in this era (which lasted longer than you think), they are
incorporeal, do not experience this world like we do.
Souls are corporeal, we are in this material/physical plane and experience it´s low frequencies as
reality, although we may float above it and experience the higher realm too.
I should talk about this briefly; you are not in the body but encompass/envelop it while being
present in another invisible body which consists of similar elements to the Soul (which is you) yet
this invisible body is entangled with the physical plane (this is very important for you to
understand) and connects with the visible body through energies transmitted by the invisible
body to the brains, heart and areas in the spine, hence we (as Souls) may control the body and it´s
functions, making us experience this realm.
Souls are dual, meaning you are also somewhere else, waiting to be united in another realm.
Some bloodlines refuse their duties just like non-bloodlines do, suffering the consequences
connected to it.
Many bloodlines do not know either.
The "rift" is not were you think it is, it is on a personal level, meaning me and you too.
I am from a minority within the faction which is getting smaller.
I explained why the word "god" is not used for it´s traps in the meaning.
The One is Self-Existent, Pure, Good and indeed the One who creates the Good.


Q:
Insider. Are you saying here that the "old" ways were based on truth and were correct? should we seek
the old ways and follow them?
Is being in harmony with the "Mother" something we should seek?
Is the Devine One more interested in our hearts or our minds? which is stronger?
Were the teachings of Jesus regarding love a message that we should pay attention to?
Are we stronger than you as a collective?
Are we imprisoned here because of our "sinful" nature or because of our lack of understanding.
A:
-The first appearences of knowledge are closer to the Truth than the latter ones.
Think of the ripple created in a pond when throwing something in it, the further the waves get
from the core, the weaker they are, finally stopping.
4000 years ago is relatively young in this era.
Wrong translations, wrong interpretations/additions, deletions will mislead you.
Therefore search for the Mind of the Universe which will enable you to pick out the truths and
later on directly pass it through.
-Being in Harmony with everything the Divine Law is providing us with which were designed to
realise our return, without interpreting it in human terms.
-The Divine One IS, there is no "interested", "wanting", etc. although It´s
emanations/manifestations/characteristics may act according to the One.
We do not have a Mind, we may interact with the Mind which may allow us to be become one
with It.
To have something is owning it, owning means mastering it or having it under your control at the
least....we do not master the Mind, neither do we control It.
Most confuse using intelligence with having a Mind while using the intelligence is merely an
operation granted to us by the Mind.
A Soul does have different essences, it consists out of certain "parts-covers" although it is 1
being.
One of them could be called the Heart, that which connects to the spring of Life which keeps us
alive, provided by the One through It´s emanations.
All essences are as important.
-Read this slowly:
Love, it is not to be understood in human terms, that is the corrupt version.
The teachings of the real Christ are not the teachings of Jesus of Nazareth although the latter
adopted many from the former (I remember I would not mention it again but this context needs
it).
The Christ has a different name but I will use this term because that is what people are familiar
with.
The message was there since the real Christ revealed Itself in another era than ours.
Jesus of Nazareth was part of our era.
There is a difference in the way it is being spread in Christianity and it is corrupt.
Without the appearence of the real Christ on Earth we would not know how to return for the
Divine Law which through the Universal Mind allows us to ascend, was revealed by the real
Christ.
Where we are, what, who, how, why, when, all revealed by It in accordance to the Will of the
Good One and the real Christ should get all the praise, it is crucial.
Not that It needs your praise, Higher Beings don´t need us for anything in our present form, but
it is a way to let it be known that you are conscious about It.
You need the recognition that It grants you.
-Divinity can make 1 human be stronger in every way than all humans combined.
-What I am allowed to tell is that you are still here because of your lack of understanding.
Do not think in "us" but "I".
The "us" will come later in another realm.


Q:
If the "Christ" came in another era, why did he fail his mission?
A:
Be careful with what you say, you are harming yourself.
The real Christ did It´s duty fully and succesfully, now it is your turn.
If you fail do not blame The Divine.
Divinity is blameless in Earthly matters.
When you get sunburned, do you blame the Sun which maintains life on Earth and beyond or do
you blame yourself for laying hours doing nothing on the beach without protection?


Statement by Insider:
This will be my last post, it is done.
This was according to the Divine Law which is above my family or anyone on Earth and beyond.
The minority passes it on when ordered by the Higher Beings, understand this.
There are 2 undesired movements which were known to happen to me.
I would have stayed longer, although most areas have been covered.
I answered as much as I was allowed to in the simplest manner I could.
I had to write fast for a reason.
If you choose to:
Thank everyday the Good One where everything has it´s beginning for Being, for It´s Divine Law
providing you with a chance to return to your original state, the realm you truly belong to, for It
´s power of Necessity applying the justified corrections that you experience everyday.
Praise the Higher Beings who operate according to the One´s Divine Law, which are
manifestations/emanations of the One, for providing the means of Life in all areas, sustaining
them and providing these means for your benefit, guiding you to the release and more.
When addressing Divinity (read again) be careful to articulate well, do not demand, tell, beg,
order, suggest, ask.....which are abhorrences, just state and do your duty.
Understand the questions I raised by answering you, I said more than you read, pass it on.
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9/24/2005
Statement Insider:
I am a member of an Elite Family who you despise...ask me a question
and I will answer them in short.
Why?
Because I can.

Q:
What´s an "Elite Family"?
A:
That´s how most are calling it.
Families who for a long time have been ruling the people who are not from these bloodlines.


Q:
what´s your thoughts on "peak oil"
A:
It is known within certain circles that it is manufactured.
The Earth is producing more oil/gas than is being used now even believe it or not, it is a natural
process "the more you take, the more it produces to balance itself".
Study the bees and the way they produce honey and you will understand.
On top of that there are many places with large amounts of natural resources which never have
been touched.
The agenda?
I think you know.


Q:
what commonalities do the bloodlines share?
and have you ever fucked a child?
A:
Understand that "bloodlines" have been chosen to rule, it didn´t just appear out of air.
The souls which incarnate into these bloodlines who rule are picked by Divine Law.
Other things don´t have to be mentioned.
The second question shows you read to much Icke who is a tool that is being used.
But to answer, no.


Q:
Sorry, OP. No one rules me...never has!
A:
A little old saying:
The perfect slave is the one that says "I am not a slave".
It is like an alcoholic saying he isn´t an alcoholic so therefor he will always be an alcoholic.
Get my drift?


Q:
Where do you elites store your mentally ill relatives caused by centuries of inbreeding?
A:
It is a myth that inbreeding always causes problems.
If the 2 persons who procreate carry genes which are of better quality than the rest....


Q:
why have you allowed us to breed like rats if population is what you feel threatens you?
A:
1. We haven´t allowed that, you have more power than you think you have.
2. Population does not threaten "us" in any way, shape or form....again a myth.


Q by forum owner Trinity:
I am curious what a member of an ´elite family´ thinks of GLP.
So what do you think?
A:
The more divided people are, the easier it is to rule over them.
Making them believe they have a sword in their hand which they think makes them powerful and
able to fight "the dark sider" while it is just a toothpick.
You have to be very careful who you give that imaginary sword to, Trinity.
Do you know that not just spoken words but also written words emanate a frequency which have
a direct effect?
And I would say that a vast majority of the written words here are not helping the cause you
think you are fighting for.


Q:
What is your religious affiliation?
A:
Religion is created by "us".
The religions which rule now are the ones that are under total control.
I can´t give out to much about this but Christianity/Judaism/Islam/Buddhism are a bit off, let´s
say.
There is a core of truth, but it is drowning in a sea of perversions....for you to pick out, good luck.
What we believe in does not matter but it is about serving the Divine Law which was passed onto
us.


Q:
How about the world economy?
A:
One thing conspiracy theorists are right about is that it is based on money that doesn´t exist,
never existed, never will.
The ones who own the banks also own the media and politics, so it can be portrayed the way they
want you to believe it.


Q
When will the wheat be separated from the chaff?
Or do you want to get rid of the wheat and leave
the chaff for your slaves?
Whichever, when will it happen?
(tired of false dates, please be honest this time)
A:
I know 100% sure there is no end time, at least not like it is being portrayed everywhere, be it
religion, media, etc.
This place was never meant to end the way it is being described.
There will be a time when everyone will be released but that is not a mass event, but rather 1 by
1....work on yourself.


Q:
I´m curious to know why the Elite do not lead? They seem to be more of a parasite on society.
A:
A fish in the ocean can´t see that birds are flying in the sky.

Q:
Have you or any of your family members ever participated in an occult ritual and, if yes, what was the
nature of it?
A:
Rituals have a meaning which cannot be understood by most.
Rituals are there to connect with the higher beings who govern this realm.
We are doing our job.


Q:
well I´d have to say your divine law has fucked up this planet and its people very well!
A:
Peasants like you don´t understand that you do it, nobody else.
Btw, by what you just said you lenghtened your stay here on Earth one more lifetime....my
condolences.


Q:
Do you frequent the Bohemian Grove and fully participate... in cremation of care.. sacrifice to
Molech ... screwing the male homosexual prostitutes... orgies ... etc..
A:Those and other similar places are for the politicians and media people, they are obligated.
Sometimes a bloodline will be present but will not participate in those acts which are not the
rituals we do.


Comment from Insider:
Accidental Stoner
Those were many questions....
Most I would answer yes, some no.
Don´t believe all that "gurus" tell about us and you will do fine.

Q:
do you consider the prevalence/success of organised crime families and syndicates as a massive failure
of your colle3ctive will?
A:
They are there for a reason.
They aren´t as succesful as they look though, they are broken.


Q:
Why do you continue to attempt to control mass consciousness by by spreading fear though every
outlet available to you.
Why not set the knowledge free as was intended long ago, the written word is spreading the wings of
truth.
The sword has been given to the sheep, and the day of reconing is soon at hand. I believe in no law of
divinity or hierarchy, we are all equal unto th eyes of the creator and for that must you answer in your
time.
The meek are inheriting the Earth presently, I pray for you.
A:
If that was the aim, it would be done in an instant.
You do not understand what this world we live in really is.


Q:
I have no questions. I do however have a statement.
The time of reckoning is at hand.
A:
It is not.

Q:
it goes..the best slave is one who thinks he is free.
13..ultimately it is all a matter of genes, n´est ce pas?
do you understand self-cloning?
do you agree that the planet is replete with false allies and false enemies?
A:
That´s not how it originaly goes....about the slave.
If you read carefuly you will see.
Last question has a yes as an answer, there are also no real allies or enemies.


Q:
Op IF you are indeed who & what you say you are, then you will know that you and your ilk are in big
trouble... Your time is short and those you belong to, who are in our space quadrant as we speak,
already know it! I imagine they are a tad busy right at this moment. But of course you must keep up
appearances even when you know you fight a losing battle.
Personally I will be very happy to see the day... and it is coming, sooner than you think ;)
A:
There is no end of time.
A long time ago, the people did ALMOST manage to take over, and then bad things happened on
earth to those people....what are you seeing now?
Are you really living on the planet you think you are?


Q:
The "higher beings who govern this realm", do you serve them? By what names do you call them?
Have you ever seen them? Where do they reside?
A:
They penetrate everything and they are benevolent.

Q:
dang insider you skipped my question about what really hit the pentagon....does that mean you aren´t
going to answer it?
A:
Does it matter what hit it?

Q:
Too much question dodging
A:
I did not sign a contract which says I have to answer everything.
Some questions do not need an answer and others do not mean a thing eventhough you think it
does.

I will be back tomorrow.

9/25/2005
Statement by Insider:
How strange that some of you who talk about love, light and peace are the ones who 2 sentences
later cuss and talk about murdering others, smirking about it being soon..
Are you sure you are on the "good" side?
And who is Natascha?
For the ones who are a bit smarter than that, ask away, I will answer the way I choose to.
Before you ask the question, force yourself to think outside the box that was created for you by
others...ask a real question that you thought about, formulate it in detail.
For the others, if you could leave out cussing, hate, bigotry and prejudice (which is based on your
gurus´ amazing wisdom), it would show you are a bit more evolved from the peasant stage.
I will not answer all questions, sometimes because it is obvious if you think about it or parts of it
have been answered, other times because I do not have the obligation to do so.


Q:
so is bill gates more elite than you?
how about queen elizabeth?
are you an arab?
can´t you control the oil instead of the arabs?
A:
The ones you know the names of are not true bloodlines like you have been taught by theorists.
They are not the ones who write the symphony, neither conduct it.
The ones you mentioned and other known names merely play the violin or cello when they are
told to, the way they are told to.
It does not matter what race I am, has no effect on anything.
Oil is already under full control like all natural resources.


Q:
Why does visualization work?
A:
It does not work for everybody, you have to reach a certain stage in your development.
This means living by strict rules, applying them to everything you do in life, in detail.
Most humans do not have the discipline nor temparence to achieve that stage.
Some here talk like they can, but I know even without knowing anything about their lives that
they are further away from it than they think.
"Visualisation" works because it is an essential way of the creational process in this material
universe.
The Universe is a living entity who uses it´s Mind to create and the beings created from that may
have that same power to within their boundaries.


Q:
Now the question is, who is using Icke?
and better question... Why?
A:
Icke has a core of truth he is trying to pass.
What he does not realise is that this actually works against him.
The reptilian part was fed him by the ones who work for the bloodlines.
In a period of 7, 8 months he was bombarded with "victims" who witnessed shape-shifting,
satanic rituals, etc. in such a way he could not refuse to not believe it.
Sometimes the "witnesses" were lead to him a few times a day, depending on his location.
Others like Icke (and there are more than you think) have been fed similar stories.
Really, I am not reptilian.
The answer why does not have to be answered.


Q:
Hello Insider!
Are you part of the Divine Brotherhood? Are you ME? Are you he who manipulates the Matrix?
Enquiring minds want to know, cuz I´m thoroughly confused. You say we despise you, but I could not
imagine despising any Being from the Devine Realms! Then you act like your part of the "elite
bloodline" on Earth, but what would bloodlines have to do with the Spiritual world? Again...I´m
confused. Could you clarify? Just what IS the Elite of whom you say we despise, and yet who
apparently has all the "inside scoop"??
sigh Sammie
A:
You are confused for you have accepted the other versions of the "truth" and you think you have
a sight of the big picture, but what I say dismisses huge parts of it.
There is a misconception about bloodlines....obviously, the questions that are being asked here
prove that.
But there is a reason for that, and it serves an important purpose.
We manipulate this world only as far as we are allowed to by the Divine Law.
We provide you with tools and then it us up to you to determine how you use it.
Tools can be used in a maliscious way but noone is forcing you to use them that way....you are
choosing yourself.
So despising the ones who provide you with the tool that you voluntarily chose to "sin" with is
about you trying to camouflage your tracks.
You get what you deserve, that is how this universe works.
We do our duty, so do yours.


Q:
There is a very old saying...unrecorded in open history--"the devil doesn´t know he´s the devil...he
thinks he´s God."
A:
Wrong.
It actually states that humans who worship the "bad" think they worship the "good".


Q:
"You do not understand what this world we live in really is."
-----------
Care to elaborate on this statement...?
Regards,
Further Considerations
A:
Only if you formulate the question and understand that certain questions need to be answered by
yourself only not others, otherwise they have no purpose.


Q:
Hey 13 --
I´m not coming back to your planet next time.
Smoke on that.
A:
What gave you the impression that when that time comes, you have a say in that?

Q:
What is the reason that your people came to this planet?
A:
Almost the same reason you came.

Q:
Now, what "elite" family does anyone know well enough to "despise"?
Dubya, is that you?
A:
To clear this up once and for all....the Bushs are not bloodline.....in fact, they are your kind who
wanted to be worshipped by your kind.
I will sum it up again in short, the ones that have known faces/names are not directly bloodline.
They are not the composers/conductors, they just play the flute the way they are told to.
Bushs, Clintons, Sharons, Arafats, Hitlers, Dalai Lamas, Mandelas, Blairs, Gores, Chavezs,
Ghandis, Kennedys, Lennons, Dylans, Einsteins, Michaelangelos, Popes, Ceasars, Aristotles,
Herodotus, Akhenatons.
They all play/played their part the way they are/were told to.
These people who love recognition and praise of your kind would not be allowed to be in the
same room with some people I am related to.


Q by forum owner Trinity :
Insider,
Rather than give them a sword (or a toothpick), I give them a canvas and a pen.
The words as you say have vibration and effect.
And though yes many that are written here are contrary to the ONE, some ring true.
It is those few, that matter most.
I was recently asked by a friend of mine,
"what do you do when you have mastered the game?"
This seems like a question that would apply to one in your situation as well.
My answer was, "save as many as you can".
I am curious to know, What is yours?
A:
If it has an immediate effect it is not a canvas and a pen anymore but a sword...an imaginary one
but nonetheless a sword.
And it is not working the way you think it does.
You say most are contrary to the One and that is true, in fact almost all is contrary.
But you say because of the few that ring "true" it is worth it.
You cannot have 2 contrary essences at the same time/place eventhough they may have the same
spring.
Which means one of the 2 is not present here....do I have to tell you which one that is?
About mastering the game.
How does one know they have mastered it?
Does someone else tell them?
See, if the "master" is not really a master yet he acts like one it will mean he will make errors.
He will have flawed thoughts and act accordingly.
People will start listening to him and adopt the flawed opinions and way of living.....eventually he
will do more harm than 1 bloodline actually has the power to do personally.
Hence why "leaders" have been created for you who "have mastered their game".
Jesus of Nazareth is a nice example.
He was created, this human has many worshippers and they have murdered in his name and still
do (Bush).
Jesus of Nazareth was not a master of the game, he was a puppet being used in the game and he
still is serving the agenda among you.
So you might think you are saving as many as you can like him but are you really?
How would I answer the question "what do you do when you have mastered the game?"
Checkmate.


Q:
Is Earth a prison?
A:
Yes and even worse.
The ones who believe the contrary will never escape.


Q:
Why, oh why would an alleged member of an "elite family" waste one minute minute of their time, or
give credence to the cespool that is GLP?
A:
Bloodlines are not robots who all act the same.
You are confusing the ones who you think control you with others.


Q:
Now on the population reduction... We have a few brewing like AIDS... however, it has been my feeling
that the "release" of a bio, will be in a timely fashion cloaked in chaos from another event. What say
you on that?
A:
There is no plan to reduce the population, that is fully in the hands of the people.
However certain events have been seen as just that while they are serving another purpose....a
misconception.
Just because it comes across like population reduction does not mean it is exactly that.
Really, if the goal was population reduction, it would have been done a long time ago in a span of
a few weeks.
In fact the opposite is more true in most areas on this planet.
What you said could happen but it would be done by the ones who control the lower areas.
The ones up higher do it through the daily items you consume.


Q:
Was Yahweh an extraterrestrial negative entity? Or was he a fiction invented by the Jewish fantasy
factory during the time the Greeks ruled Palestine?
A:
If the name of an entity is public, it means it is fabricated.
Yahweh used to represent an age where mass-control was taking shape.


Q:
Ah, so Mormons are the only ones who are barking up the right tree. Authority and all that.
A:
No.

Q:
1). Don´t you get sick and tired of the lack of real quality in the Music and the Movies?
With your power/money/influence why do you not prime the pump with some really good stuff?
2). What are the three things that have you concerned about most regarding the upsetting of the
applecart? [Things that are beyond the direct control of the PTB that you are scrambling to prepare
against]
3). Who owns and runs the show on planet earth? Please list the major player groups who actually
answer to each successive level beginning from the top down. Descriptions are fine if you don´t want to
divulge names. Is it like a pyramid, or is it a number of factions vying for power/control?
4). What is the real story on the greys and are they still major players currently?
5). What do you fear the most?
6). What is the real story you haven´t told us because we haven´t asked yet??
A:
1. The ones who search hard will find the gems in Music, in fact they are out in the open.
It is not our duty to enlighten you, that is yours.
We hand out the tools that can be used in the way you choose to, "good or bad".
2. Nothing to do with us but with the puppets.
3. The shape of a Pyramid yes, but people forgot the underground chamber.
The Top of the Pyramid is not the top.
5. Fear is based on physical impulses, the physical is not important.


Q:
My full-blood Italian maternal lineage traces back to King Charles I (Charlemange) but by name,
Count Dotto Dotti who was the captain of the archers for Prince Phillipe (King Charles IV) and who
was part of the coup to secure the ´secret´ from the Merovingians and the Knights Templar. I won´t
discuss the secret, which I am sure of, but I don´t understand why you operate in the fashion that you
do and I operate in the fashion that I do then as a result. This does not mean that I am of any
particular bloodline that is part of the ultimate that you speak of, but my life is far more progressive
than anyone that I know scientifically and professionally regardless of the economy (change thereof
coming shortly). And I do see the ´illusion´ all around me.
Explain this please.
A:
I have explained it a bit.
Your lineage is not what you think it is.
Charlemagne (like other "kings") merely played the flute, like his descendants do now in politics
especially.
However if there are traces of the lineage within you (and this goes deeper than just blood and
genes as you know) then obviously you will understand your surrounding better than others.
There are people who are directy linked and they will act differently.


Q:
Do you think Insider that
This current battle is in two stages. Now, on the etheric. And, a thousand years from now, on the
astral, once all the HEart people have dropped their physical bodies and HAVE GRADUATED TO
HIGHER LIFE FORMS, THE NEXT BEING THE ASTRAL. Then,
The whole show starts all over again, with different players.
A:
You are confusing a few matters.
There is just 1 struggle and it is now, here on this planet and on a personal level....meaning you
only.
There is no enemy you can attack except yourself.
If you are busy attacking something else, you are wasting precious energy and you will fail.
If you succeed, there will be no struggle anymore.


Q:
Dear Insider,
You state that we have the tools to work with. Can you tell us some of them, something to work with so
we may free ourselves?
You agree that we are on a prison planet. I thought more like a Zoo, where we are being observed and
studied. But if we are on a prison planet, than I must understand that we truly have no free will.
Correct?
Thank you
A:
The tools are in your hands, around you, everywhere...it is even being drawn out of you.
It is your duty towards yourself to reveal them to yourself and then do as you please with
them....there is always a consequence.
Prisoners still can determine what they do in their prison with the tools that were provided to
them, they can decide how to walk in the yard, how to talk, think...
You have free will therefore you suffer and are aware of your suffering.

Q:
Dear Insider,
Thank you for answering my first two questions and your time.
I should have asked this question with the first two, but alas I do now. Why give me tools to escape a
prison? Sounds counter productive to what a prison is for.
I have known that the PTB are puppets moved around by hands that we cannot see, nor may ever see,
but why make them look and act (seemingly) stupid or at the least illogical? Are you wanting a
revolution?
What you are saying is that the war is within - not without - though TPTB seem to want us to think it is
without - why distract us? What is it that they don´t want us to accomplish? Freedom?
And yes, I am reminded everyday of my suffering.
Thanks
A:
We are neutral and doing our duty which many times comes across as being negative.
If you observe closely you will see we merely spreading the tools which can be used by you to free
yourself or chain yourself, your choice.
The Divine Law has a purpose for you and it is not on this planet.
Prove you are worthy again to be released.
The distraction is part of that.
It is about knowing who is and who is not.
The ones who support any of these known faces are failing.


Q:
It sounds like you are cautioning Trinity against giving full reign to freedom of speech? Is thi correct?
A:
He may do as he pleases and accept the consequences in the bigger picture.

Q:
What is your interpretation of the Divine Law and how can I make peace with myself?
A:
Knowing yourself and where you really are, are the 2 most important issues that you should be
involved with.
It is your task to find out.
In fact, if someone gave you the correct answers, it would not mean a thing to you for they would
not be attached to you in a way they would if you would have found them yourself.
If you find the answers to those, you have accomplished a huge part of your duty towards
yourself.
After that your task would be living according to the Divine Law which is revealed to you after
that stage untill departure.

I may be back tomorrow, maybe Tuesday.

9/26/2005
Statement by Insider:
NOTE: I am Insider, AC 13, the former proxy I was using disappeared.
So I am using another one with another ID.

Statement by Insider:
Insider/AC 13 again, yet another proxy....the last one disappeared too right after posting.
It is getting difficult for me to enter and stay here but I will go on as long as possible.

Q:
Question to the insider (AC 13):
Are you familiar with the Black Nobility?
I have traced and linked all ancient royal families of Europe and the Middle East still present to this
day. I know their names and their connections to power, wealth and influence across the world.
I can even identify the very person who is the potential Anti-Christ (he has all the correct makings - a
wonderful, benign young man who has yet to realize his full potentiality as a world leader). The Black
Nobility love this young man.
And lastly, are you a small part of the Black Nobility, Insider?
A:
The Dark Nobility is a faction which operates on their own, they have different roots which have
been described in texts written by my ancestors.
It is a much smaller group than most would claim, because the core is different to the "outer
walls".
They are the ones which you all confuse with my kind and therefor direct the hate towards the
wrong ones (as shown in this thread too by the lesser intelligent).
About the Anti-Christ....there are at this moment literally billions of Anti-Christs.
I am not one.
You will find them among Christians, Muslims, Jews, Atheists, Satanists, Agnostics, Buddhists,
Hindus, etc.
They don´t need a leader to be more Anti-Christ.
I have to make clear that The Christ has nothing to do with Jesus of Nazareth, that part was later
fabricated.


Q:
Gnostic number 13,do you subcribe to the view,that our dualistic reality provides excellent
opportunities for souls to develop unconditional love,so they may transcend our dialectic
universe,rather than escaping from it?
Do you also believe in the law of balance and karma,allowing a soul to be king in one lifetime,a
beggar in the next? If so,it doesn´t really matter whether you´re a member of the elite,it may be a
unique experience on soul level,as unique as any role in society,as long as the soul progresses.
Is the historian Laurence Gardner a powerful member of the elite as Icke claims,or is he just an
average guy with access to hidden information? Thanks for your communication,Insider.(hope this
thread isn´t a practical joke by some juvenile person.Trust you´re for real)
A:
It is the task of every soul to accomplish that while in this human shape.
There is a part that can be called escaping which will be followed by transcending....if failing,
reincarnation.
However the word "love" is misunderstood....it is not meant to be the love in human terms which
humans are enslaved by.
That is the corrupt version of the real one.
The Divine Law controls what is called karma, but it is much broader and "harsher" than people
want to accept.
Example: someone who gets cancer and dies a slow painful death deserves it, that person is being
corrected, it is for his own good.
Sounds "harsh"?
That´s the way it works.
Just because it comes across as negative in this realm does not mean it is negative in the big
picture.
What you are talking about (reincarnating into the opposite of your former life), there is no
universal law which states that will definitely happen.
Reincarnation is a fact though, but if you achieve your task there is no reincarnation, no need to
experience all levels of life on Earth for they are mainly pointless to experience.
Gardner is one of those persons who wants to be praised and recognised by the people, so he gets
it in return for some favors (spreading misinfo which here and there contain the facts, which
hooks people).
He was initiated in certain levels but it is not as in depth as one would think (including himself),
he is clever though.
He is a member of at least 6 "societies" (although 3 of them are closely linked and could be seen
as 1, so 4 at least) but these have only as much power/control as you the people give them.
People like Icke are giving them more power unknowingly.
I am real.


Q:
Is this because Christians teach that individuals should be under the control of a God who is holy? Or
should I say, one who judges right and wrong?
A:
Christianity is about idolising a human called Jesus of Nazareth first, which is an abomination.
Christians teach what they have been told to teach by the ones they oppose.
I can tell you who the 4 individuals were who wrote the Hebrew old testament and the exact date,
if it suited me.
Same about your new testament which was gathered by 6 people from 2 different areas.


Q:
And why do you misspell simple words such as ´malicious´? I find that very interesting.
A:
English is not my native language, not even my second nor third, maybe fourth and I type fast
without checking so I can answer as many questions as possible in a limited amount of time.
On top of this I just realized I have to type even faster because the proxies I use disappear.


Q:
Why do you choose to speak Now?
A:
Some of us have the task to do it within certain boundaries.
How do you suppose certain knowledge in past times was suddenly there?
Luck, chance, coincidence?


Q:
Questions
0 - What is this Divine Law you talk about?
1 - Why do you MANIPULATE this world?
2 - Why do - YOU - manipulate this world?
3 - How do you know who is allowing you?
4 - Is your job given to you or taken by you?
5 - Are you a Human Being?
-------------- YOU AGAIN -------------
"The Divine Law has a purpose for you and it is not on this planet. Prove you are worthy again to be
released."
-------------- ME AGAIN -------------
I know it and i can feel it. There is a purpose for my life.. But I don´t even know who i am let alone that
i know what my purpose is.
6 - How is this knowledge gained? By hard work or does it simply happen to one?
7 - Do you know the purpose of yur life? If so how did you learn about it?
Regarding the planet we live on:
8 - On which planet do we live? What is the Planet earth anyway?
9 - What can you tell us about Mohammed (pbuh)?
A:
0. The Divine Law is the manifestation of the Will of the Superior One which not only creates
everything that exists within this universe but also maintains, nourishes, balances, energises and
renews it.
It also reigns in other realms, including the realm you originally belong to.
1. + 2. I have answered this many times, it is our duty.
3. + 4. Rituals have a purpose.
If you are doing something which was not allowed or doing a task which was not given to you,
you will suffer during these rituals.
In your daily life you will notice it too.
Emanations have many forms and one who knows about these matters will have no trouble
recognising with whom he is dealing with and what the message is.
5. I am like you present in this human shape.
6. This has been answered by me in a previous post, in short you have the duty to "gain it".
Temperance will lead you to the rightful place from where it all starts.
Before this you must know yourself and what this place is (where most people go wrong),
otherwise your thoughts will be filled with error which will lead to erroneous ways.
7. Yes.
These matters are not passed on to you in detail by someone, that actually will lead to the
opposite of what needs to be achieved (hence my way of answering, understand this).
You can be guided up to a certain point and then it is up to you.
9. Looking at the way you summon his name I assume you are a Muslim.
It is a "sin" to worship/idolize/praise humans who were part of this planet in any way, shape or
form, including when talking/writing about them.
You by adding those letters in brackets have just done that, elevating his name up to that of
higher beings.
A human is corrupt while on this planet.....each and single one of them.
A "death" does not change the personality one had and leave behind here, do not feed it.
Praise and prayers may only be offered to perfect beings.
Muhammed was like Jesus, Mozes, Abraham, Buddha, a human who was lead to believe he was a
knower, or like mentioned earlier "master of the game".
It is very easy to make humans believe they are enlightened and know the truth...and then
thinking it is their task to wake up others.
He was used and his legacy is still being used to divide people, just like the other
religions/ideologies/"philosophies".
2 of his closest assistants were servants of the bloodlines, 1 of his wives was too (bloodline
servants were also assistants of Jesus, Buddha, Mozes, name them all).
After his death it was made sure by these 3 that his followers would be divided which was the
main thing Muhammed was told to be against.
So Muslims who believe in seperate streams of Islam are actually rebelling against their own
"prophet"....and that would be pretty much all Muslims.
The kuran has a core of truth but it is floating in a sea of perversions, together with the other
"holy" books.
It was written by 4 individuals from 3 "countries" 1 being western, 2 middle-eastern.


Q:
Insider 13 are you Antichrist?
A:
Jesus of Nazareth is not the Christ, nor is anything I have said Anti-Christ.
The ones who claim the opposite are.


Q:
So, is a family where the children are naturally born with this ability *viisualization*, part of the
´bloodline´?
A:
No.
In fact someone who has no connections to these families whatsoever can have this ability too.
This ability is there for everyone to receive.....you have to dial in.
It is being provided by the Divine Law to everything that searches for it.
I tried to make this clear earlier.....the blood/genes/etc are not as important as they seem.
The physical realm is weak and it cannot affect the Divine.
Someone with no connections to the families can be affected by Divinity in such a way that he
could surpass anything the bloodlines ever could achieve combined.
Certain individuals get born into the bloodlines to be able to reign over the people under certain
circumstances, that is what the bloodline mainly is about.


Q:
To me Elite means those who place money before people or any real values at all....and those who hold
office either because they can buy it or inherit it regardless of whether or not they are qualified.
A:
You just skillfully described your kind, not mine.

Q:
are you a Rothschild? Here is my question, although petty in light of the many questions posed to you
on this thread, why aren´t the any of the Rothschilds listed in Forbes top 500 richest people.
A:
If you read closely you would have not asked this question.
The ones who are known in public are not in control, the Rothschilds are at the same level as
your Knights Templar ancestors were....you shouldn´t be proud that you are from that lineage by
the way.
These known families/clans/societies are merely dancers to the tune.
But to answer your question, no I am not a Rothschild.
Which family am I from?
Most here talk about the bloodlines who rule, yet they do not know who they are.
They wrongly assume they are the Bushs/Clintons/Rothschilds/etc. because some theorists
"researched" it and some "insiders" told them by providing evidence.
I am from a ruling family whose name rarely has been mentioned in history, noone will even
know who we are.
Second, you accepting Forbes as a reliable source for these kind of lists shows you are easily
manipulated and do not grasp what is happening.


Q:
Worthy ....an interesting word. Are you expecting those of us who know about the world of polarity and
try our best not to play the polarity game, to believe that we need to be worthy? In whose eyes? It can
only be our own.
Whatever happened to the idea that ´the Universe is within us´? Gaia and all other dimensional
´realities´ are Illusions, No? So the prison is an illusion, right?
p.s. Baby, and btw, we DON´T HAVE FREE WILL ON THIS PLANET....perhaps you slip is showing?
A:
Do you know who manufactured this new age nonsense you just promoted?
If this prison is a "true illusion", get out then right now, I dare you.
It is not like in the movies.
You play the victim part.
You do not even accept you have free will, therefore you will always be ruled over, never prevail
and deserve everything you get according to universal laws.
I may be back tomorrow.


9/27/2005
Statement by Insider:
Test
Before I start, I have to say I cannot see all posts, some are blank so I may miss questions.
If so ask again.
Refrain from asking the same questions over and over again, first check the thread, check my
answers, I do tell about areas which were not asked about but may have been on your mind, read
carefully.

Q:
...and if these beings are LUCIFERS...?????
answer in 5 words or less, pleze
A:
You used 12 words and 1 number, without realising it you started a part of a ritual...are you a
"being of lucifer"?
Different beings have different characteristics which makes it easy to identify them during
rituals.
If it was a "malicious" being guiding me, I would not be talking in the way I do.
Someone who is lead by "malicious" forces cannot utter/write certain words, phrases without it
affecting him.
The ones who are lead by them also cannot accept hearing/reading certain things without getting
overly mad/agressive (see the thread for examples).
This is when "malicious" beings are present:
Everytime you cuss, talk negative, plot a scheme, get violent, utter lies, support murder, get
sexually aroused, get afraid, get jealous, even laugh out loud, being overly joyfull (so all related to
emotions/passions/desires), they appear near you.....one, two, three, or more of them.
"Malicious" beings are from this realm, this is their home.
You cannot hate them for they are doing their task, their rightful duty and it is connected to your
behaviour....understand, you are the perpetrator, they react.
They never instigate, you do.
If you do hate them you are missing an important part of the reality....respect them up to a
certain point.
This will also show you are conscious about them and that will be recognised.
I type "malicious" because they are not malicious, they only appear to you in your manufactured
perception to be so.
People are perpetrators who play the victim part.


Q:
1 How does real conciousness interface with this prison?
2 What are the techniques to break the hold of the interface and "free" the conciousness?
A:
1 + 2. Depends what is meant by real conciousness and interface, from where I stand they could
be almost the opposite of what you may mean.
Real conciousness is what is provided to you when you are in tune with the Mind of the Universe
which operates according to the Divine Law (they are not the same like many are lead to believe).
This Mind penetrates everything, it rules over everything, so if you would connect with it you
may experience it´s unlimited power.
No prison can confine this power, hence there will be an escape, you will be guided up to a certain
point, yet most work is to be done by you.
But that is just the beginning, much work lies ahead concerning yourself.
I have explained a few times as far as I am allowed to how to connect, at least how to start with it.
It truly is up to you.
I would hesitantly add that studying ancient texts will help (although a lot is filled with
perversions and wrong translations, intentionally) but this only after a certain level of
awakening, you will recognise/remember the small parts which are true.
If you are not on that level you will take parts of the perversions/wrong translations as the truth
(as a few show it here, especially 1 religious stream) and fail.


Q:
Care to tell us which it is? You some sorta good guy who gives up tools or do you rule over us?? DId
you change your mind or what??
A:
Neutral means in the terms I used, neither negative nor positive, merely providing the tools you
can choose to use as you wish....you are the perpetrator.
Or would you say I control every aspect of your life, every hour, every minute, every second and
force you what to think/say/do?
Do not be mad at the wrong individual.


Q:
Is it necessary to know why we are here to escape, or just work out where we are?
Are the answers to be found "inside" or by "joining" soocieties, or by appealing top divine
intervention, or all three?, or none.
You have answered no other of my questions, I hope I have not offended
A:
It is necessary to have a view of the whole spectrum, when it is partial it will be like looking
through the window while it is partially covered with a curtain.
You do not know what is behind that covered part therefore cannot act accordingly.
What covers the whole spectrum?
Understand this place, what and where it is, know what you are, how you came here, why you
came here, how to return.
Prepare yourself for the answers, cleanse yourself, reach out for the Mind, speak (within-"without")
that you are ready, live strictly according to the answers.
Do not join "secret societies", never, whatever the circumstances are.
Also no religions, including the new age, do not accept human
gurus/prophets/priests/rabbis/imams/popes/fortunetellers/"med​iums"/dalai
lamas/politicians/authors/scientists/"celebrities"/parents/et​c. as legitimate authority on Divine
matters....on other matters it is your choice to accept or decline, however accept the consequence.
You only need yourself and the Divine, no intervention by others in bodies....again, no
intervention by anybody.
If your father asks you for a glass of water to show if you care for him and are disciplined, do you
bring it directly to him or do you take the glass of water to your neighbor and ask him to tell you
what it is that your father really asked, while the neighbor did not hear it and now is drinking the
glass of water himself?
Am I also a neighbor?
I have not touched the glass of water, I opened the door and told you to go back to your father.
No one has offended me, people offend themselves.
I would be offended if what I say was against the One and if it is, I shall pay.
I answer the questions from where I left and type as much as time allows me.
Sometimes I skip a question because it has been answered, other times the question is irrelevant
and now also because I can´t see all posts.


Q:
So, what are your comments on NESARA/PLANET X/POLE SHIFT/FIRST CONTACT/SECOND
COMING?
Who or what is behind these fairy tales and why?
A:
NESARA: counterproductive to you personally in the long run.
PLANET X: does not exist anymore like so many planets, moons, stars, galaxies.
Their demise however always brings forth something, which means they never stop being part of
the whole, playing their part.
POLE SHIFT: it happened 2 times to my knowledge, in the 2nd and 3rd era, if necessary it will
be done again.
SECOND COMING: you returning back to where you belong after you have succeeded, which
means a second coming cannot take place on Earth for you do not belong here.
People who are waiting for a "saviour" on Earth to do all the work for them are all failing.
I have noticed some Christians have gotten angry and are attacking me on a personal level by
damning me, it is their choice.
I talked more about Christianity than other religions because the questions gave room for that.
I would say and have said similar things about the other religions/ideologies when asked about
them.


Q:
What interests me is this: if someone takes the time and trouble to follow up the leads and clues left in
numerous books and legends, and sorts out the wheat from the chaff, what then? If that person puts
into practice what they have learnt, do they come closer to the truth that the bloodlines evidently have
access to?
A:
Yes.
Again, the bloodline is only important for ruling over people, it is not about having a special
power that makes one more aware, although the knowledge is being passed on so therefore it
appears like that.
But this knowledge is not hidden, the Truth cannot be hidden, It wants to be known by you,
inviting you every moment of your life.
That is the reason why It through the ruling powers is being provided to you accompanied with
perversions, corrupt additions. to confuse and make you accept the latter.
There is not 1 written book which contains the Truth and nothing but the Truth.
Pick It out and live accordingly to It, incorporate It into every aspect of your life....that is the
hardest part for people for you have to float above this physical/material world while being in the
body that dictates the opposite.


Q:
How close to the truth are the writings of Neale Donald Walsch in his Conversations with God series?
Are you in any way related to the Bird Tribes mentioned in Ken Carey`s Starseed Millenium books?
Is there much truth in the writings of Sheldan Nidle of www.paoweb.com ?
A:
The Native Americans have preserved knowledge succesfully but nowadays (and the last century
orso) it is being presented in an erronneous fashion.
Integration is "working".
About the authors mentioned; like I posted before it is not in your interest to accept human
intervention/advisors/salesmen between you and the Divine.
They may say certain things which are true, yet it will never be complete.


Q:
Noone on this earth has the power to "free" any of us. Noone outside this earth sees a reason to free
any of us. The divine source itself (if there is such a thing) is waiting for us to free our own selves,
individually. There will be no "mass ascention" no "mass enlightenment" and "we the people" have all
been duped by "we the people" into prolonging our sentence here. We can stay here in this place for
eternity if that is our choice, and we have created a belief system that allows us to do so.
A:
I would leave out the sentences "Noone outside this earth sees a reason to free any of us." and
"(if there is such a thing)".
About the first sentence, there was a time when there were beings who had the power to do it but
that was not their task.
And The Divine Source IS....there is no "waiting", "wanting", etc.
You are on the way, the other post showed that too, but living it is an important part of the task.


Q:
And by Divine Law, Christ was sent here to correct the situation.
A:
Yes, but Christ did not descend into the body of a human called Jesus of Nazareth, 2014 years
ago on March 20th, almost 2 hours before sunrise (which is the secret time of birth of your "son
of god").
The Christ (which has a different "real" name but I will use this name here) appeared once, just
once, and this was in another era, not even close to our era where Jesus of Nazareth also lived in.
Do you know who keeps the knowledge about the real Christ alive?
And do you know who keeps the knowledge about the fake christ(s) alive?
The opposite of what you are thinking.


Q:
Why do all elitists worship lucifer the liar and deceiver?
A:
Billions of people on this planet are serving their own corrupt
material/physical/mental/emotional desires, are they all elitist?


Q:
Is there currently a family feud between the "higher beings"?
A:
The higher beings are not in physical bodies, they have no "feuds", they are not under the
control of this realm therefore cannot suffer from this.
You are referring to human bloodlines and I reckon it is pretty obvious from what I have been
writing here what the answer to your question is....their always have been some who do not do
their duty.
I am from a minority.
People do not see a difference between the factions.


Q:
Red Chinese get HAARP retaliation for Rita: Super Typhoon ** Eye for Eye **
?????????????????????????????
What about this`???
A:
Do not pay attention to the "world events", they are all orchestrated to make you pay attention
to them.
The struggle you should pay attention to is on a personal level.


Comment by Insider:
Charlane,
Reading what you wrote:
1. You are not acting/talking like one of that lineage, which is a good thing because they were
ignoring their task.
It means that subconsciously you have disattached yourself from that lineage (eventhough
consciously you may not, this is important to understand).
You have passed a certain level which I did too almost 11 years ago.
2. You excelling in certain areas is not just genes, they have a bit different purpose.
It is about what I mentioned above.
Il vecchio sentiero è vicino *The old path is near*
Comment by Insider:
Oazaki / Hiko Seijuro / Aiki-Mei,
Before accepting a certain knowledge, you have to investigate where it comes from.
Do you know where the "knowledge" that you just typed out comes from, when it was released,
how it became and by whose hands?
More importantly, who controlled those hands documenting it?
I am saying this with the best of intentions.
If you knew it, you would not have posted it in that fashion.
Investigate the roots of what you said and see for yourself, it is for your own good.
Knowledge does not just appear out of nothing, it is passed on, always...there are no exceptions.


Q:
And, you´re part of an "elite family", that we despise, yet, no one has ever heard of you?
Why would we despise someone(s), that we don´t know of?
Why do we despise you?
Do we even know that we despise your family?
Or, is it because of what you know about what we consume on a daily basis that we would despise you,
if we knew what it was?
and
If the ones we know the names of are not the "true bloodlines" and you say that you are a member of
an elite family whom we despise, then you are inferring that we know you, in order that we may
despise you. How can this be, if the "true bloodlines" are the names and faces of people we do not
know? Is it more the nature of your presence we despise or the position you take in life we despise?
And, if that is so, then do all people despise you or just those who do not know or understand your true
intent and/or nature?
A:
Last time I will answer this one.
It is about the misconception about who rules.
Terms are being used which do not apply to my family yet they are part of the ruling.
The flawed perception of the nature of the presence and the flawed perception about the
positions which lead to affecting the lives of people...again, you are in control.
One cannot despise others because of one´s own lack of understanding about the matter, yet that
is exactly what happens.
I.e. wrong target, wasted energy.


Q:
13, if the divinity is passed down through your blood, what type of blood/rh do
you and yours possess? Are you part of the Templars or involved with The Vatican?
A:
Divinity can choose to pass it´s power "down" however it wishes to.
But the blood/genes/physical part is such a small part of how it goes.
In fact it is not a necessity.....sounds like a contradiction?
No, the proof is around you.


Q:
"What you said could happen but it would be done by the ones who control
the lower areas". The ones up higher do it through the daily items
you consume."
I wanna know what you know about this.
A:
I do not know you personally, but I already know I do not eat or drink 90%
of what you do daily (to throw in a percentage). I do not even come close
touching them. It is pretty much everything sold with a few exceptions
here and there.
I must add that there are grades in this and it has a different effect on different people.
To give examples of the 2 extremes of people who have been consuming
them for a long time; some when eating these almost get into a trance,
on others it has no effect whatsoever. Most people are somewhere in between,
it affects them in such a way that they do not notice. They wear out faster, get tired
faster, grow older, think slower, focus on emotional/physical needs,
get health problems that were unheard of 200 years ago at that relatively young age,
i.e. the quality of life declines.
You are not what you eat, but what you eat controls how you feel about yourself,
the way it makes your body respond. Through your own ignorance and laziness,
you hurt yourself. When is the last time you investigated what exactly is in what
you are eating or how your soda got prepared? When looking into it and finding all
these agents and knowing what they are known to cause, ask yourself; would I put
this agent into the mouth of my child and make him/her swallow it?
You are doing that everyday to your child.
Then there are electrical frequencies as you mentioned, it is everywhere and
your house being the most active place. Have you ever cut the electricity off
in your house to see what the difference in vibe is?
You sleep more comfortable for one.


Q:
And, who/ or what do the "elites" answer to?
A:
Everyone answers to the One eventually.

Q:
Ah the elite in the world, the so-called Jet-Set society. Beautiful to a pain, but
always the same, repeatable features among their few types. All other reptilians,
grays, hybrids, human sell-outs, bend a knee to this level.
A:
The jet-set has nothing to do with the bloodlines.....they are your blood.

Q:
Please tell me, what is your favorite occult subject?
A:
Nothing is hidden.

Comment by Insider:
BTN nli,
Answering certain questions or elaborating on certain issues will have the opposite effect of what
needs to be achieved, it will not help you.
Omar, who was near him during death but denied the death occured (gaining time) and one who
was close to Abu Bakr and lead him to Omar´s speech when he returned from Medina....the wife
is more important though.
It does not matter anymore, it has been done.
I do not use email and my presence here will end within days.


Q:
Do you have any connection with the Annunaki that the Sumerians wrote of?
How close to the truth is the book The Illuminatus! Trilogy : The Eye in the Pyramid, The Golden
Apple, Leviathan by Robert Shea and Robert Anton Wilson?
Is Moroni, who is mentioned in the Book of Mormon really an extraterrestrial from the Pleiades and
are such beings still interacting with humanity at present?
A:
They are not here anymore, that was another era.
Their knowledge was not theirs, knowledge is always passed on hence it being present now.
I have not read it/them (?).
If it is getting critical acclaim and being promoted heavily, you know what time it is.
It may contain some truths, but they will be floating in a sea of perversions.
No one is saying that authors are doing it knowingly by the way.
Some do (praise and recognition loving ones, the ones who "sold their soul"), some don´t and the
latter get noticed and promoted because it serves them.
Nothing is easier than to write a best-seller book/hit album/movie script if you know what the
highest promoter´s agenda is.
Mormons are like the other religious people controlled by the ones who controlled their
"prophets/sons of god/angels/saints/etc".
In this realm a Soul which was in a physical body once can not become an Angel, the Soul cannot
transform into that, again in this realm, I repeat that firmly.
Yet it is claimed that Moroni was resurrected as an Angel in this realm.
Mormonism has a core of truth (like the other religions), so reading the texts will not harm you
as long you are cautious.


Q:
What are the foods etc that are used to control us? Is there anything we should and shouldn´t concume
that would help us to see the reality more clearly? What constitutes "temperance"? - is it moderation in
all things or more than that?
A:
See above for the food part.
It is 1 part of the manipulation, it is used in combination with 6 other methods of control in your
daily life.
If you can "delete" a few from your life or have less exposure to them, the effect will reduce
dramatically, but this is not what will make you more self-conscious.
These methods are used to wear you out, lower your quality of life.
They are interlinked.
The methods are:
1. Food and drinks
2. Medication, "Health care" (include vitamins)
3. Electrical waves (including your PC and cellphone, house electr. network, everything chipped)
4. Media, be it TV-radio-newspapers-magazines-internet (the most obvious method, yet the most
enslaving)
5. Music, Sounds (different method than media, used in a different way although most times
through the media)
6. Air pollution
7. Education system (including known literature which is mostly corrupt, be it history,
psychology, metapsychology, "philosophy", art, science, poetry, religion, even fairy tales told to
infants).
Politics takes these methods and bombard you with this every day and make sure they are
maintained.
The rule is:
If promoted/praised/applauded/critically acclaimed/free, be very wary.
Be it food, medicines, latest technological product, "artist", politician, musician, book, show,
beverage, etc.
Some of these allegedly "stand the test of time", that is orchestrated for a reason.
Problem is if too wary, you could miss a few gems that are deliberately passed on in between the
manipulation tools by some.
There are a few other methods (societies/cults/sects, people policing each other, etc) but the above
6 are the core which has been promoted since the French "Revolution".
Temperance: conscious form of restraint based on self-knowing to achieve inner order of the
Soul (which is the unseen you as a whole, the Soul is not a part of you, you are one).
Restraining the emotions/desires/passions/energies does not mean cutting it off (that will harm
you, beware), but channeling them to work for higher causes after taming them gently.
This all does lead to a sober life, yet simpler, filled with gifts because you fully become your own
master, instead of your emotions/desires/passions dictating you how to be.
Simultaneously with this process you will be cleansing yourself and will be ready to be
enlightened by the Universal Mind.
Be like that which you want to connect with as much as possible.


Q:
1. do you have friends who you meet, from outside the bloodline?
2. Do you feel empathy, hate or remorse?
A:
1. Yes, but it is not a wise thing to know many people.
2. The body forces you to experience emphaty, hate, remorse and all other emotions, together
with desires and passions, to confuse you, make you forget yourself, become a dumbed-down
version of yourself.
They have their foundation in this material/physical world.
The more you let them be your masters, the stronger you will chain yourself to this world, which
is contrary to your duty, yet do not loath them, respect.
I channel them to a place where they can be used for something substantial.


Q:
So I am asking HOW does one re-connect with the
divine source? HOW does one rise above this prison?
A:
I reckon my answers today have covered that, if not to you personally ask again, I shall answer
tomorrow.


Q:
I´m not saying each of us IS God, the Ultimate Source, but we are our OWN god due to the fact that we
CREATE our own reality!
What say you Insider?
A:
You partially described free will and the impression it can give you, nothing more or less.
Also the word "love" has many traps, especially the way you used it.


Q:
Re: earth is a prison ... Are you referring to Light trapped in matter? If yes, then I´m beginning to see
all the points you´ve alluded to so far.
A:
Trapped would be the wrong word, it would imply that the Divine had wrong intentions.
Rather, contructed in a way so... or envelopped through...


Comment by Insider:
3nd3r,
Some of the things you described are directly linked to the powers of the Universal Mind.
Like I said, everyone can pick that up.
If you can it means you are at a higher stage than others, however beware of how you use it, it is
not yours, not in this realm.
Also it could be a deceiving beginning of something else which many people experience.
I reckon 2 rituals would initiate you and let you truly see what it is but when the time arrives you
will be guided to them.


Q:
they include the sheik in the desert whom Jesus encountered during his travels and from whom he
received a blessing. Would you happen to know anything about that?
A:
I know some people which Jesus of Nazareth "happened to encounter" were insiders.
The 3 kings being the first right after his birth, which were actually 5 but 2 were present in the
background (the number 3 in the story serves a symbolic purpose like so many things, read
slowly).
The gifts were the symbolistic artifacts (some ancient) which through rituals would initiate him
into his chosen task, for this he needed to travel to certain places.
I have said a few times and I will repeat for the last time, he was not the real Christ, he was made
to appear like one by being guided throughout his life up to his death, and after that, the
documenting of the words (which started long before his death, although rewritten again at a
later time to release).
The 5 kings were present too during his crucifixion and Jesus of Nazareth knew, he would have
responded differently if they were not there.
Jesus of Nazareth was always aware that he was being guided by them, in fact he sometimes
actively searched for them and other insiders.
He gave up on 2 occasions but was guided back.


Q:
The ´Elite´ are making it (oil) look like it is being constantly restored, but are actually storing it. I`d
appreciate your thoughts on this.
Candace Frieze`s writings
A:
The Earth is storing it untill they get used, the ones in power just tap into it.
Although there are some factions (above the puppets) and they are responsible for the
misconception most have which you described together with the statement that the resources are
disappearing.
It is the way I described in the former post.
The writing has some errors.
1. The Annunaki are rulers from a different era, they are gone and replaced by others.
10.000-15.000 years from now (yes, the Earth will be still alive) people will find texts about the
rulers of this era thinking it still applies to theirs.
Those texts have been written for the major part already.
2. If what was written in this text was true, it would mean that at the moment the Earth, "star
friends" and Angels would be now rebelling against the Divine Law of the One.....which is an
abomination to even suggest (I had to be very carefull how to articulate that to not fall into the
trap too).
If the person who wrote it does not restore it, she will achieve the opposite of what she desires
and taking many Souls with her who accept this.
Again accept no human intervention between you and the Divine.
3. The struggle is on a personal level, that means you only can do it, do not wait for "saviours".


Q:
My only question now: Is it really THIS simple? I will not give away what you have knowingly or
inadvertently revealed... I know now that what you say is true: This cannot be told, it must be
discovered, for it has no power if it is revealed to one.
Is this the reason there is so much secrecy? Not so much that people won´t find out because it is an
"just for the elite" but rather, that if they happened to be TOLD it, instead of discovering it they would
never have any chance of escape?
A:
The Truth wants to be known by you, it is It´s main goal, inviting you every moment of your life,
so to be understood by you It is out of Necessity simple and to be noticed relating to Providence It
is "in front of you".
The last question has a yes as an answer.
If you did find It, thank the Divine Law, nothing/nobody else.
The journey just started, long path.
I may be back tomorrow.


9/28/2005
Statement by Insider which is about testing the new proxy:
Test

Q:
1)Is this simply an "upping of the ante" to test if I have the will to continue, or is there in fact a force
that tries to keep people in a sleepwalking state? A force that does NOT want people to "be all they can
be"?
If so, what is the best way to deal with it in your experience.
A:
It is connected to the operations of your physical body which rebels everytime you reach higher
to that realm.
Physical body has the task to let you experience this reality and whenever you search for the
other, it resists.
It is it´s duty so respecting it and gently taming it is the best approach.
Also beings will accompany your thoughts and try to divert them, again it is their duty, show
respect and that will be recognised by them.
Never see them as malicious or evil, they only react to your actions.
There is not a force which does not want you to be what you really are, the opposite is true but
they also have their tasks that they must fulfill.
This is about a material part of you.


Q:
Shall we forget everything we know? Shall we simply let go of our own Ego and accept a different
paradigm altogether? THAT would be VERY difficult to do, as it has sustained us as individuals in this
life. hmmmm......
A:
Recollect everything you used to know, devalue the things which were taught to you since you
forgot the former and return.


Q:
What advice do you have for raising a child on earth?
A:
I have no children nor will I have one.
The first thing a baby does when born is cry.
It does so because the Soul is conscious of what it has been born into and is in a state of disbelief
(you are more conscious of what you are and where you are during/right after birth than you are
now).
The Soul makes the body cry because it is the first time it came to this physical realm (although
this is a very limited number) or because it realises it has returned through reincarnation, after
failing in the former life (which is a vast majority).
The Soul itself is not the one crying (it is unfamiliar with these functions in it´s original state) yet
the impulses it gives makes the body cry.
It cries "without a reason" for days, weeks, months, untill the consciousness has lost it´s power,
be it through natural processes or the influence of parents and these days even medication...
That is when the human is truly born, after they forget who they are, where they are, some forget
faster than others.
This crying is different to the crying that follows after the first few months, one can even hear it.
Comfort them during this crucial period of consciousness and make it known that the One has
gifted them with a chance to return back to the place they belong.
This will have an impact which will influence them for the rest of their lives, subconsciously.
The time of birth was determined (as is the time of passing on), together with the enviroment,
parents, circumstances of birth, health, etc...nothing is a coincidence.
But during puberty they get cut loose from certain strings and they will be fully responsible for
their actions, having the free will to lead the life they want, they determine the quality of it....they
can even determine the way they pass on ("death") by the choices they make but cannot change
the time of passing on.
Just a few areas of their lives will be influenced by the tools that the parents have given them.
Most of the child´s life will be based on free will, which will have very little to nothing to do with
parents, you are only important in the first 5-6 years of the child´s life so that is where you can do
most good.
Use your intuition (not instinct, 2 different matters).
When becoming a parent you are rewarded with qualities (which concern raising children) which
where not available before, listen to them.
Every child is different, respond differently but make them aware there is more than they
experience, that there is a Good Source where everything/everybody flows out of for a reason and
1 day they will return after realising their task here on Earth.
Do not tell this all at once but over years and do not tell more than this.
If done the right way they will start looking for it on their own for the rest of life, which is their
duty.
If you present it to them in an obvious way (like religious people do), you will achieve the
opposite.
Musical instruments were passed on in a different era for a reason and it was not just to listen to
other people playing them.
Education: 1 method of manipulation (I have listed the others).
They will be manipulated, but after puberty they have an important opportunity to undo it.
They will also get opportunities during the rest of their lives.
You cannot stop the manipulation, neither instigate an awakening, that is up to the child and how
it responds to the tools provided to it.....the Mind of the Universe following Divine Law is always
penetrating your child so it is being provided with the chance to awake every moment.
It is up to him/her.


Q:
What do you know of an advanced race who were (and some still are) worshipped as gods?
Do you recognize any lords or deities?
A:
There is only 1 race at the present, not another special race that is above the other, people are
confusing different matters and eras.
The One is worshipped/praised as what you call "god".
The word "god" is a corrupt term, it would imply that you as a human would have control over
the invocated higher being (like before, I had to be carefull how to phrase it to not fall into the
trap myself).
I would say do not use it, but it is your own choice with consequences.
The One has many manifestations/emanations/characteristics which are present in a hierarchy of
beings with different workings but operating together.
All are incorporeal/immaterial although some may operate bodies in a fashion different to ours,
some by lowering their frequency which is actually emanating a form from themselves, may
appear in the material world.
All are praised for they are the One who creates the Good and they direct theirs to the One too.
You people worship some humans as "gods", be it "prohpets", "celebrity", sportsmen,
politicians, autors, etc. which is an abomination.


Q:
What do you eat? Where does it come from?
A:
What nature provides directly.
I have a greenhouse which provides me with certain vegetables/fruit which sprang from
uncontaminated seeds.
I have some healthy animals which provide me with meat, eggs, milk.
I get my water from an underground spring.
For you to know, bread can be bought at small independent backeries, especially the "foreign"
ones who do not use the same ingredients as the "natives", they are not free from them but better
still.
Some of the food/drinks sold in these "foreign"-run shops will be better for you than the ones
sold in supermarkets.
This is not how the rest of my family lives, they have "servants" which provide them with their
needs with the products from their own properties/factories/farms/etc.


Q:
Insider, what can you tell me about Nikola Tesla?
Do you think he completed/failed his ´mission´ here on Earth?
A:
All knowledge is passed on, Tesla´s was too to him, they are not his original ideas.
2 insiders passed on to him the knowledge, knowing Tesla would use it to advance the plan
(which was alive then) to gain control over the energy resources from certain bloodlines by
dimishing their value with "new" technology.
Tesla made it public to the wrong people and ended the whole thing.
Clever individual, not so clever human.
Insiders from the minority must be vigilant, because of these kind of events.


Q:
Are ther any wholesale events on the horizon that will translate into a quantum leap in mass
consciousness and/or redefine life and the way it is lived?
A:
No, not like that.
As mentioned a few times it is on a personal level, meaning you getting selfconscious yourself
through the tools available to you, I have described some as far as I am allowed to.
There may be an event which would alter the way civilisation is perceived now (it happened
before many times) but that will have nothing to do with what you mentioned.
Your duty towards the One and yourself still stays the same, no matter what happens.
Do not waste energy waiting for events, being generic and inanimate, your stay will only be
extended.
I might add this which may sound contrary to what I said but read carefully:
When masses are made to believe something negative, they may create what they did not want,
which is how for instance the "NWO" like you people name it, works.
You are believing it is taking shape, so it will take shape and theorists are major players in
helping this taking shape by bombarding you with "facts" that it is taking shape.
Claiming you are giving in power everyday, and they control you more...while in reality you are
in full control.
So the people who are "waking up" to it are the ones who are creating it.
Visualization also works that way around.
But I repeat, even if these things would happen your duty towards the One and yourself still stays
the same.


Q:
Have the husband/wife relationships of the "higher beings" been compromised? Have those created to
be together by the One parted ways because they reject their duties?
If so, on which side of this rift do you reside?
Is your God the Self Existent One?
A:
Again their is confusion about Higher Beings and the Souls in bodies be it bloodline or not.
Higher Beings and Souls are different entities.
Higher Beings do not enter bodies in this era (which lasted longer than you think), they are
incorporeal, do not experience this world like we do.
Souls are corporeal, we are in this material/physical plane and experience it´s low frequencies as
reality, although we may float above it and experience the higher realm too.
I should talk about this briefly; you are not in the body but encompass/envelop it while being
present in another invisible body which consists of similar elements to the Soul (which is you) yet
this invisible body is entangled with the physical plane (this is very important for you to
understand) and connects with the visible body through energies transmitted by the invisible
body to the brains, heart and areas in the spine, hence we (as Souls) may control the body and it´s
functions, making us experience this realm.
Souls are dual, meaning you are also somewhere else, waiting to be united in another realm.
Some bloodlines refuse their duties just like non-bloodlines do, suffering the consequences
connected to it.
Many bloodlines do not know either.
The "rift" is not were you think it is, it is on a personal level, meaning me and you too.
I am from a minority within the faction which is getting smaller.
I explained why the word "god" is not used for it´s traps in the meaning.
The One is Self-Existent, Pure, Good and indeed the One who creates the Good.


Q:
Insider. Are you saying here that the "old" ways were based on truth and were correct? should we seek
the old ways and follow them?
Is being in harmony with the "Mother" something we should seek?
Is the Devine One more interested in our hearts or our minds? which is stronger?
Were the teachings of Jesus regarding love a message that we should pay attention to?
Are we stronger than you as a collective?
Are we imprisoned here because of our "sinful" nature or because of our lack of understanding.
A:
-The first appearences of knowledge are closer to the Truth than the latter ones.
Think of the ripple created in a pond when throwing something in it, the further the waves get
from the core, the weaker they are, finally stopping.
4000 years ago is relatively young in this era.
Wrong translations, wrong interpretations/additions, deletions will mislead you.
Therefore search for the Mind of the Universe which will enable you to pick out the truths and
later on directly pass it through.
-Being in Harmony with everything the Divine Law is providing us with which were designed to
realise our return, without interpreting it in human terms.
-The Divine One IS, there is no "interested", "wanting", etc. although It´s
emanations/manifestations/characteristics may act according to the One.
We do not have a Mind, we may interact with the Mind which may allow us to be become one
with It.
To have something is owning it, owning means mastering it or having it under your control at the
least....we do not master the Mind, neither do we control It.
Most confuse using intelligence with having a Mind while using the intelligence is merely an
operation granted to us by the Mind.
A Soul does have different essences, it consists out of certain "parts-covers" although it is 1
being.
One of them could be called the Heart, that which connects to the spring of Life which keeps us
alive, provided by the One through It´s emanations.
All essences are as important.
-Read this slowly:
Love, it is not to be understood in human terms, that is the corrupt version.
The teachings of the real Christ are not the teachings of Jesus of Nazareth although the latter
adopted many from the former (I remember I would not mention it again but this context needs
it).
The Christ has a different name but I will use this term because that is what people are familiar
with.
The message was there since the real Christ revealed Itself in another era than ours.
Jesus of Nazareth was part of our era.
There is a difference in the way it is being spread in Christianity and it is corrupt.
Without the appearence of the real Christ on Earth we would not know how to return for the
Divine Law which through the Universal Mind allows us to ascend, was revealed by the real
Christ.
Where we are, what, who, how, why, when, all revealed by It in accordance to the Will of the
Good One and the real Christ should get all the praise, it is crucial.
Not that It needs your praise, Higher Beings don´t need us for anything in our present form, but
it is a way to let it be known that you are conscious about It.
You need the recognition that It grants you.
-Divinity can make 1 human be stronger in every way than all humans combined.
-What I am allowed to tell is that you are still here because of your lack of understanding.
Do not think in "us" but "I".
The "us" will come later in another realm.


Q:
If the "Christ" came in another era, why did he fail his mission?
A:
Be careful with what you say, you are harming yourself.
The real Christ did It´s duty fully and succesfully, now it is your turn.
If you fail do not blame The Divine.
Divinity is blameless in Earthly matters.
When you get sunburned, do you blame the Sun which maintains life on Earth and beyond or do
you blame yourself for laying hours doing nothing on the beach without protection?


Statement by Insider:
This will be my last post, it is done.
This was according to the Divine Law which is above my family or anyone on Earth and beyond.
The minority passes it on when ordered by the Higher Beings, understand this.
There are 2 undesired movements which were known to happen to me.
I would have stayed longer, although most areas have been covered.
I answered as much as I was allowed to in the simplest manner I could.
I had to write fast for a reason.
If you choose to:
Thank everyday the Good One where everything has it´s beginning for Being, for It´s Divine Law
providing you with a chance to return to your original state, the realm you truly belong to, for It
´s power of Necessity applying the justified corrections that you experience everyday.
Praise the Higher Beings who operate according to the One´s Divine Law, which are
manifestations/emanations of the One, for providing the means of Life in all areas, sustaining
them and providing these means for your benefit, guiding you to the release and more.
When addressing Divinity (read again) be careful to articulate well, do not demand, tell, beg,
order, suggest, ask.....which are abhorrences, just state and do your duty.
Understand the questions I raised by answering you, I said more than you read, pass it on.
Return.
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Interesting Caduceus

[link to www.spiegel.de]
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where exactly

is the triangle ?


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Spake Logos666 673795:

Where exactly

is The Earth ?

"

[Now read carefully, because usually a dark agent will argue that if you venerate the sacredness of the earth you are just too attached to leave it, and by telling you to escape will at the same time block the only way "out":]


...We can allow ourselves to blunderingly be trapped by this device of apprehension that casts a shadow over Life seeking to destroy it, or we can, if we want, attune with the luminous energy emanating from the Heart Of Mother Earth—and with the Light of Life which emanates from the Celestial Being—to avert the sorcery of the catastrophe, so as to pass through it, into infinity.

"


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akusoy don't waste time with culture bound comlications like the qaffalah.

If you need understanding of those in (more) modern terms, take a year or so to study this guy:

[link to www.sno.org]
[link to www.sno.org]
[link to www.sno.org]


"
Many years ago I used the phrase, "the days of the giants are over." Indeed they are. Vitvan was one of those remarkable giant-men who appear so rarely in world history and of whom there are so few that they become in due course of time milestones along the trail of our evolutionary struggles. Credit is due to Richard Satriano in Vitvan: An American Master to have so clearly depicted and painted a full-size picture of what a giant thought and felt and did. No one previously has quite accomplished what Vitvan did. Most teachers have been partitive: expounding this or that phase of the ancient wisdom. Vitvan attempted to present an over-all view of the Gnosis couched in current scientific and philosophical language. He makes demands on his readers. His work does not permit a cursory overview from cover to cover.

He stands relatively alone. He was a gigantic figure in a desert inhabited only be a mere handful of human Joshua trees whose arms are uplifted to the Infinite and Eternal.

Israel Regardie
(!)
"



Anyway, I keep recommending this kind of thing

[link to www.amazon.com]
[link to www.youtube.com]
(the poster meant "presence")

for starters. w/o a thorough grounding in the basis, all esoteric complications are for the birds.

If you must practice tantric stuff, practice Iyengar Yoga for a decade first or at least along with it.


I repeat I have never been a devotee of this Guru below and do not recommend or unrecommend any of the communities he left behind.

So ignore the person if you want, and insert Jesus, Buddha, Ramana, or any of the very high realizers, or God himself (if you really can) for wherever he says "True Heart Master".

But note the simplicity of the truth itself that he speaks. This stuff is not basic, it is very advanced as you shall see when you listen to the finish of these 10 min:





[link to www.amazon.com]

[link to www.amazon.com]

[link to www.amazon.com]

 Quoting: Logos666 674600



Where exactly

is The Earth ?


2:30 - 3:00


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Even if "Insider" (Outsider) were who he said he is, note it confirms he would still be an outsider.

3:07 - 4:12, but then - 5:01 :

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What do you think about multivariant universe?
There can be infinit number of timelines. So we can change our future, presen or even past by choosing another variant of universe. I mean, do you think you can control this?
And about visualisation. Your answer have helped me to understand how to improve skils in it. If thoughts follow the flow in order and ther is no distraction from the targent, the result appears immediately. The reality answers _every_ thought. If person is disorganised there`s too many doubts, fears, etc.
The last question. Many people are now learning how to control weather, program events, teleport things... What is going to happen?

With interest from Moscow.
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Even if "Insider" (Outsider) were who he said he is, note it confirms he would still be an outsider.

3:07 - 4:12, but then - 5:01 :
...
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Whee! 8D (Quebec)

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there are many versions of the convo on internet, but many are edited and people added their own stuff...and those are usually the things that people now use to claim insider is fake...well, those arent his answers, its disinfo injected by others into the document to discredit it.

in fact the ones who attack the insider for those comments are probably the ones who edited the text and inserted those things themselves.

and also dont forget....this is the original thread and as you can see it is heavily edited too....after the insider left this was a very popular thread still and this site got hacked. i was here when he was answering, i was here when he left, i was here when it got hacked.

and the ONLY thread on this forum which got cut to pieces was this one.....just check all the other threads around the time of this thread 3 years ago, they are still intact.

fortunately one guy had gathered most of the answers and posted that after the hack.

this thread, im telling you, before the hack had almost 900 posts in a bit over a week time from the start, a few days after insider left.....now after the hack, 3 years later it has 585 posts?
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It's not edited, haven't you noticed how the first pages are all the same?

The same happened with other threads.

It has to do with a website/database upgrade/failure.

Last Edited by Whee! 8D on 05/23/2009 12:57 PM
The world woud be a thousand times better place if more cults existed.
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The Bible says you must believe the Bible
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Actually, if I remember right, I don't believe it says that anywhere.

Even logically, it appears it could not say that - since "the bible" was a later selection the existence of which could not have been known to any of the scriptures contained in the bible.

Of course, a scripture contained in the bible might say (you must believe in an earlier scripture contained in what is now called the bible (is there such a case ?). But if it doesn't refer to itself as mandatory, that reference itself does not have to be believed - even according to the bible.

So can you please show me a statement in any scripture contained in the bible which is self-referential in respect to your having to believe it as well as to the rest of the scriptures there ?

Otherwise you might consider changing your signature.
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why do you pick sides even if they dont care
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My brother's name is "Olaf" too.



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It's not edited, haven't you noticed how the first pages are all the same?

The same happened with other threads.

It has to do with a website/database upgrade/failure.
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no i was here when it happened. the site was hacked, fact. they even changed the banners to ridicule this site and spammed idiotic threads for hours. trinity can confirm this all.

and the only thread that got cut to pieces like this was this one. they even deleted it from the backup, thats why trinity couldnt get it back.



and that logos66 moron should stop the BS, it seems insider impressed him and affected his world views so much he is now fully obsessed by responding to anything in this thread. proves insider had something legit to say if disinfo monkeys like you are checking it every hour for new posts.

hes like one of those radical muslims who cannot and will not accept any other truth than the ones they are brainwashed with, lol.
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I stop by for fun (you people are just such wonderful epitomes) when I visit the other main thread I engage in, and because of its actuality there it is almost daily.


Dead reiteration is how the mind works if it is in bondage of those "truths" that people like Insider/outsider gives out.

Even if "Insider" (Outsider) were who he said he is, note it confirms he would still be an outsider.

3:07 - 4:12, but then - 5:01 :
...



 Quoting: Logos666 678228



proves insider had something legit to say
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You are (look I am capable of addressing you in the second person) among those with reading impediment (this is from my first (!) post):

Moreover, it seems his critique of religion, as much as it also says some truths
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But you probably meant stuff like this :

Thus spake Logos666 669028:


Elite

hierarchies

Consider this stuff (from the Insider text):

Q:
...and if these beings are LUCIFERS...?????
answer in 5 words or less, pleze
A [this is "Insider"]:
You used 12 words and 1 number, without realising it you started a part of a ritual...are you a "being of lucifer"?


"Abakadabra"

Uhm, yes.


I hope you are beginning to see the level of maturity of this kind of elite stuff.



[
Speaking of lucifer, BTW:

Note how our dear "Insider" from the elite somehow missed what someone with some basic education knows as a matter of course:



"Ashtarte"/"Aphrodite"/"Venus" (because of her beauty the Romans identified this last version with the morning star, the "Carrier of Light"/"Lucifer" - has nothing to do with "Sheitan"/"Satan" [or anything evil for that matter], as you can see).
]




Now notice how people are being fed the suggestion that it is an elite thing (elite being something that relieves you from the all the muck of daily peasant existence) to follow the right hierarchies with the prescribed behavior, formalistic rituals - which of course are handed out to you, if at all, by the - elite.

(Is that reminiscent of brahmanistic caste thinking or what, and if you fall for that, you probably didn't deserve any better)

_____________


In contrast, perhaps, notice the short part concerning this special cow in the video I posted earlier, and which the Maharishi insisted actually found moksha in his presence (this was no concession to hindu conventions at all):








A freaking COW found liberation !!!


"But didn't "Insider" talk about a hierarchy of higher beings and about ascending from earth which is a prison and if you use the right rituals...

And didn't this other guy suggest we need all kinds of quaffalistic complications for spiritual liberation ?
"



The "esoteric complications" are most necessary to understand truth [quoting "EBI"]





I say: ask the Cow what she thinks of all that.








"mooooooooooooooooooooooo"







I guess that's cowish for "bullshit".






[link to www.amazon.com]

[link to www.amazon.com]

[link to www.amazon.com]
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Oh

It just occurred to me that as a consequence of a certain pervasive density and lack of humor on this thread

due to devotion to their esteemed uneducated hierarch

people might think I am favoring all the gurus I have posted here.

Especially as concerns this guy Adi Da Samraj, I took it for granted and understood - besides my explicit earlier disclaimers - that this man is (was) to be taken (as Guru) with a ton of salt:

[link to www.adidaarchives.org]

I mentioned him because of his formulative genius that came along with his (IMO intermediary twilight zone - but still way beyond "Insider") spiritual realization.

So as to appease the obtuse who still think I might have been "brainwashed" (this last gentleman's formulation), it is perhaps safer to openly admit that the only one among those I advertised here which I unreservedly recommend to anyone at any time as an awakened being would likely be Ramana Maharishi (Shakyamuni and Yeshua too, much they have been filtered too long through conventional tradition).

Happy reading:

[link to www.realization.org]

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