I am a member of an Elite Family who you despise...ask me a question

I mentioned him because of his formulative genius

We live like knowers, striving toward absolute information, but death is a perfect insult that frustrates all knowing. The death of an other convicts us of our own death, and makes us ponder. But no ultimate knowledge comes from this pondering. Death is the frustration of knowledge. The knowledge that an other has died is itself the frustration of all knowledge. We are not knowing in our pondering over death. We are contemplating Mystery, the answerless Paradox of our living existence. The death of an other and the death of "I" confound the whole spectacle and consolation of knowledge. Death is not the attainment of any state we can know. Death is sacrifice. The only way to come to terms with death is to come into a harmony with its Process, its Way. And death is sacrifice, not knowledge or a Way of ultimate knowledge. Death is the sacrifice of knowledge, of independence, of experience, and of self.

The observation of the death of an other and the conviction of one's own necessary death are not a means to knowledge but a means to sacrifice. Sacrifice is the Law. Knowledge or secure independence is that which is sacrificed. If we truly observe and feel the death of an other, we are moved to live by Wisdom rather than knowledge. Wisdom is the presumption of alignment with the Way or Process of existence, which is Sacrifice. But knowledge is only a reflection of or about the way things work. The knower is independent, not a participant in the process that is observed. But Wisdom is always already confounded, relieved of independence, so that there is no option but to submit to the Process of existence itself.

Havn't quite got it yet have you people.

Elite insider...... do you know anything about the mystery man mentioned in the thread that won't go away about Dallas in early November 2003? Let's see how much you are 'in the know'......

Elite insider...... do you know anything about the mystery man mentioned in the thread that won't go away about Dallas in early November 2003? Let's see how much you are 'in the know'......

Elite insider...... do you know anything about the mystery man mentioned in the thread that won't go away about Dallas in early November 2003? Let's see how much you are 'in the know'......

Hello........??? Elite insider........you there???

Elite insider...... do you know anything about the mystery man mentioned in the thread that won't go away about Dallas in early November 2003? Let's see how much you are 'in the know'......

Hello........??? Elite insider........you there???

Come on eliteee, answer Kevan. We would like to hear your take. You guys are aware of him........ right?

Anonymous Coward 654769:
this thread has either been hacked or altered by an Admin,

i will post the PDF containing most of the questions and the answers Insider gave.

[link to www.4shared.com]



a timely discovery ., thank you



An observation regarding his spelling errors. Asks an astute observer (page 16/17 in the script):


script:
Q:
"And why do you misspell simple words such as 'malicious' ? I find that very intersting"

A:
"English is not my native language"


Given the many irrelevant questions he did not answer, he seems to feel the need to maintain the myth of his being an extremely educated person (as a bloodline-member would expeted to be).

Note, however, that the kind of misspelling he keeps repeating is

untypical of non-natives of the English language

and

highly typical of English native speakers.

For instance writing

"to" when it should be "too"

"their" when it should be "there"

and so on. This is indicative of a person who has primarily internalized English acustically and not visually and accompanied by reading - as non-natives would naturally study it.

For non-natives, these words stick out as very different from each other because they learn them accompanied with meaning and their scriptural appearance in conjunction with their phonetic value, and not years and years later to it.

I myself - as non-native to English - felt I could immediately pick out that the author must indeed be a native speaker of English - in contradiction to what he says.

Moreover, regardless of whether he is native to English or not, his spelling errors would hardly be so habitually committed by one as highly trained as a bloodline-member would be.

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Moreover, it seems his critique of religion, as much as it also says some truths, is a demonstration of a very superficial and uneducated approach to religion. He is unaware, for instance, that being christian does not imply the veneration of a human (even if you worship Jesus), nor does it even require viewing the historical person of Jesus as the object of veneration.

Glorious counter-example:

I highly recommend these three books by the contemporary catholic mystic Bernadette Roberts:

[link to www.amazon.com]

[link to www.amazon.com]

[link to www.amazon.com]

This stuff is even better than Meister Eckhart (and that means a lot).

Roberts openly admits that she was always intimately devoted to the Christ while having not too much to do with Jesus, and this is nothing revolutionary even within catholicism.

So why does "Insider" not know such basics and suggests a type of christianity exclusively prevalent in fundamentalist protestant USA ?

Then he goes on to suggest that the real Christ was another person in history, not Jesus, thus demonstrating his ignorance that "Christ" is not even considered a historical person in orthodox christianity, but a time transcending principle. No mystical christian with any profundity would assume that "Christ" would still mean "Jesus" other that the latter being a endearing reminder for the otherwise unimaginable "Christ".

Regarding a more esoteric, gnostic interpretation of what the "Christos" means regarding each of us, namely the connection to the light of our higher being beyond the psyche and the web of interconnection in light's regions,

and regarding a more detailed version of whatever truth "Insider" was speaking esoterically, I would like to recommend a pretty unknown master of the modern gnosis Ralph DeBit "Vitvan" who died in 1964, I believe:

[link to www.sno.org]

Sources such as this one and a few others would, BTW, be completely sufficient to create an air of superior knowledge if one were to play an impostor in a thread like this one and would expect no readers with much of an education or knowledge.

Note also that "Insider" simply assumes that to gain recognition must be any celebrity's motivation to be one, such as the Dalai Lama or Mahatma Gandhi. I find that to be a highly idiotic assumption, and one that often inverts and confuses cause and effect,

regardless of all the critical remarks that must be made regarding these two persons (and I particularly know a thing or two about the Tibetan scence after having interacted with high lamas for years), but I certainly do not believe that gaining recognition for himself is the Dalai Lama's motivation at all.

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Generally I do not understand why "Insider" suggests that the core truth of religions is so deeply buried in them among all the garbage that we can hardly find it.

I think a decade or two of comparative study, yoga and meditation will bring anyone with any intelligence left quickly to the core of all that without fail.

It is true, however, that the childlike intuition of the simplicity of it will be regularly obscured by dogmatic religions rather than revealed. And that only through profound contemplative, practical and logical (rather than literalistic, concept-attached) study will one usually find one's way back out of dogma to that childlike clarity of what it's all about -

but then in a more humorous and mature way. Religions can then be humorously and lovingly appreciated and criticized rather than seen as deliberate deception the way "Insider" puts it.

As the example of Bernadette Robert shows, this, however, can even be achieved by never being exposed to anything else than one religion (catholicism in her case), by simply practicing its profound aspect rather than attaching to its superficial dogma.

Had "Insider" pointed out this simple truth, he would have been more convincing to me, but he probably wouldn't have caught anyone's attention since it is almost a truism.

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So folks: relax and forget about any riddles regarding the truth or supposed historical frauds or supposed secrets of bloodlines or supposed wrongness of religion. It is out in the open, with or without religion.

Read Bernadette Roberts or Meister Eckhart or Eckhart Tolle or Ramana Maharshi or Ajahn Chah and the Sermon on the Mount and the Gospel of Thomas or Douglas Harding ... it almost doesn't matter.

But (and here I concur with Insider) practice it yourself.

And regard Insiders and Outsiders humorously and with kindness.

Elite insider...... do you know anything about the mystery man mentioned in the thread that won't go away about Dallas in early November 2003? Let's see how much you are 'in the know'......

Hello........??? Elite insider........you there???

Come on eliteee, answer Kevan. We would like to hear your take. You guys are aware of him........ right?

WAITING........... mr. elite.......?

what is thread about??

what is thread about?? 14 identical pages, some insider guy mentioned who doesn't appear to have made any post....WTF is this?

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Is that because of powder gold spreaded in its stratosphere?

Are annunaki coming for gold soon?

Why is everything going to hell,because our Elita knows about Nibiru?

What is a purpose of Crop circles,to awaken our DNA?

Living beings on earth (plants and animals) release a
particular energy on death.

Human beings do this when they show their emotions,or when they die?

Is this energy collected further by the reptoids?

Who else is using human energy?

Is Queen Elisabeth of England related to Orion?

Is Satan a woman?

Does abbreviation SION mean Sirius-Orion?

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Do You know how to make gold and purify it?
How it makes on Terra?By friction of meteorites by atmosphere?

If you see. Excuse that was late for 4 years.

I that who try 12 years.

Really it is not enough this test?

You will find me in the European part of a ball
Every morning with 4 to 6

And still - my time, alas, expires

Hey, where is him answering? Is most this thread gone? I don't see where he responds at all. I read them somewhere else.

Hey, where is him answering? Is most this thread gone? I don't see where he responds at all. I read them somewhere else.



thisn thread got hacked and deleted all his posts. read back a few pages, been explained...if you can shift through the logos666 disinfo garbage this thread has been spammed with for that purpose only ;)