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I am a member of an Elite Family who you despise...ask me a question

 
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Dear Elite Insider:

Have you ever had a job? That you had to apply for and compete against other applicants, or do you just live off a trust fund?
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Estimado Insider,como puedo contactarme o sincronizarme con el UNO?
Como puedo apende del Cristo?
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I am also a member of THE Elite Family ruling Britain.

My father was King, and they maneuvered to get him out because he didn't LIKE their methods.

I AM NOW A TURNCOAT. I work for the workers, because I have become a worker.

I LIKE working. I LIKE being self-responsible.

You can tell my first cousin QE2, I'm not going along with their methods.

I'm here, being lied to like the rest of the people.

And I believe, we who do the work will prevail.

I have hope.

Riches are very regressive, and the coveting of riches is very barbaric.

Lillibet, please notice!


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you all realize this thread is 5 yrs old, and has even been hacked?
"Majority of Amerika is too awash in its own mediocrity to commit to fighting for freedom" Mojo
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whats with the missing posts?

I remember this thread from years ago, the first few pages are much different now..

Just saying,,,,wtf mate?
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I was here when the insider was here, every day, like 3 days.

A few days or a week after he left, the forum got hacked and the only thread that got hacked to pieces was this one.

I mean more were deleted that day by the hackers, but from the database only this thread was completely deleted by the hackers. The other threads that disappeared were back in full the next day, because they qwere still in the database, I remember Trinity also talking about this. Yes the average pee and poo threads were still in databse, not this one ;)

This is not a conspiracy, it is a fact.

If you look at the first page, it's all responses from after the insider left long ago. Before the hack this thread was 40-50 pages with insider and users posts (in just 4-5 days), after the hack 5 pages were left with every page a dozen same posts, none of the insider.

Also during the time insider was here, trying to get into this thread was a nightmare. Errors, disconnections, blank page etcetera while the other popular threads were smooth as can be. Someone was sabotaging it while the insider was here too. He also commented on this in his posts, that his posts answering questions were disappearing, he couldn't see some of the questions, he got disconnected, and so forth.

Fortunately some saved most of the convo (not all mind you, I remember Insider posted more stuff which aren't in those PDFs and some things seem added in, like the ^you peasant will be reincarnated again because of what you said', and a few more of those which were never said by the insider, so the PDFs that we have are altered too in some places to make the insider look bad).

Also no one seems to mention why he left. He said there were 2 bad movements against him so he had to leave. My interpretation is, he got caught and had to flee and is now probably dead.

He was from a minority as he called it, who, the way I see it rebel against the majority (which for instance the so called Hidden hand tool is from, who just copied insider in detail and altered things by adding control mechanism propaganda into it with a soft tone, to lure the fools in).

I think insider was one of the very few good guys around on this planet and he sacrificed himself to ge information to a few dozen people who got the message.
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I felt for myself I needed some clarification on certain subjects within the earth ascension update message and other messages so I asked if I could ask some questions.

Me: Is there time for me to ask some questions?

Isis: Always.

Me: I read somewhere that people are being removed from this planet, our earth, to another planet. As I read this message this is not happening.

Isis: Earth has been within this universe from the beginning, she has always been the only planet to carry human beings. She will remain here in her light body as preparations are now being made so she can still support a physical earth reality within her light body.

Me: I also read that it was mother earth that wants us to ascend now instead of sometime in the future.

Isis: You have the Cosmic right to ascend at any time, no one else but you decides. If you were ready you would be able to do it now, there is no reason except for assisting the earth to wait.

Me: What is happening on the new earth, I hear that some people are already there?

Isis: Some humans are working on the new earth during the night time, or through meditation. There are also many other groups assisting as for now it only exists within the non-physical.

Me: Do we have assistance from other universes?

Isis: Yes and No. Many on earth have had incarnations within other universes, so in that fact, yes.

No, as far as beings actually assisting at this moment, there are some within your universe as observers, some are there to interfere. This is a process for your universe and you as human beings. As this is going to affect other universes they are observing.

The ascension of planets has been done before, but never with physical beings living upon it.

Me: What are starseeds?

Isis: You are all starseeds as all of you have the same source that you came from. Many will call humans that incarnated here and have spent lifetimes before on other planets starseeds. All of you have had incarnations on other planets, this makes all of you starseeds.

Me: What about the 144.000?

Isis: 144.000 is not an amount of people, it is a sacred number that is connected to the ascension process.

Me: What is a love consciousness?

Isis: It is a change within the consciousness and mindset of humans as they understand that love is of a higher frequency. They have not realized yet that it is not only about the change of thought. It is about the human part finding their source being through search within. To bring every aspect of their source being into the physical reality and allow themselves to be fully awake to experience the oneness within every frequency.

The love consciousness is allowing humans to move into the 5th dimensional frequencies and receive a greater understanding.

The ones that choose to move further will open fully and will be able to find all the answers within as they will also be able to see consciously all that is happening within your universe and be able to understand and see their own path fully. They will work on changing their physical body and do all that is needed to complete the cosmic ascension of the physical body into light. As this is a personal process and can only be completed by the person. Guidelines will be available but the work is done by the person.

As for the ones that move into the love consciousness, into the 5th dimension. They are required to do certain things as to open and clear chakras, bring in 12 chakras and finish planetary ascension while alive, not through death. Change their state of being in the mind only to a state where the mind and heart work in unison. Bring in the connection between the mind and the heart.

Within the 5th dimensional frequencies there will be further opening and expansion of the consciousness to reach the consciousness of One needed for cosmic ascension.

This consciousness will allow them to see that no matter what frequency, love is present. Love is present in the dark as it is in the light. The love experienced through the One consciousness will be deeper and more profound than you can experience within the physical body now. It moves from an experience of love into the experience of the all, as it moves you into a deeper level within your own source being that is the Oneness.

They will realize that love is but a tool to reach the oneness. As within the oneness feelings that you experience as a human are all One.

Me: What is full conscious awareness?

Isis: Full conscious awareness is being aware of your surroundings on an energy level. You can have full conscious awareness on the 5th dimensional level. It does not mean you know everything that is happening on every level.

When we speak of full consciousness awareness, we speak of awareness at every level of your being. Your consciousness is expanded or able to expand throughout your own universe and many other universes.

Me: Many say that if you leave fear and be in the love frequency, you don’t have anything to worry about. You don’t have to do anything. Everything will fall into place in divine order.

Isis: The love frequency, though very powerful is not enough to change all. Being within the love frequency does not mean you are fully aware consciously. Many that are within a love frequency, or try to remain within a love frequency, are not fully aware of what is happening consciously. Like I said before, the love frequency takes you into the 5th dimension. It is not full conscious ascension where you change the physical body into light.

Me: Who are the illuminati?

Isis: They are enlightened beings that have full conscious awareness of all levels. They are capable of using every frequency, including the love frequency of course, to create what they would like to create, a world under their control at all times. The ones really in control have been able to stay within conscious awareness throughout many of their lifetimes. It is not just a group that came here right now. They have been here for millions of years. The actual beings in control are a small group. The others are their workers. Some of them have awareness at many levels as they have studied just like you for many lifetimes. Some are from another planet, or other universe.

The contract has been made with them, that if we are able to ascend the earth, they will leave.

Until then they will do everything within their power to prevent ascension of the earth.

Now they have let you come a long way. But there is still control as many messages are coming from them as well. They have given you promises and little treats to keep you at a certain level of spiritual awakening.

Me: What is needed for the earth to ascend, how many people do we need?

Isis: We need people that are ready to complete cosmic ascension. The portal that needs to be opened is not at a 5th dimensional level as the earth is ascending into her light body.

The amount of people is unsure at this time, we don’t know how many more we can awaken to this path.

We will need more than we have now as they will have to carry the energies not just of opening the gate, but of all human beings that will move with the earth to the new earth reality.

Me: How many are awake at this time and how many are actually ready for cosmic ascension?

Isis: There are a little bit over 1000 awake enough to realize they need to be ready for cosmic ascension.

Of those 1000, none of them is there yet. They are still working on it but many are being distracted and many are only at the beginning. There are about 100 who have fully dedicated themselves to the cosmic ascension.

Me: How many are awake though that could start right now?

Isis: All light workers upon earth are awake enough to start, but they are not aware enough to realize the importance of cosmic ascension as many are still only within the love frequency. This is part of the control system, as the love frequency is what is holding them back. It is like when people say, you can reach god through Jesus. They are being taught that the only way to change this world is through love.

The only way to change this world is to become fully who you are in spirit, fully aware of all that is occurring. To bring every aspect of you within the 3rd dimension and prepare yourself to ascend out of the cycle of life and death.

This is what is needed to support the earth, as it will move you out of the limitations of a physical world. Allowing you to move into a deeper form of oneness. It will allow those that actually take this chance to become the new teachers within the new earth reality. As we are going to need more than just people who know about what it is to move into the 5th dimension. The new earth reality is going to need teachers that know how to step out of the cycle of life and death. Cosmic ascension.

As long as you limit the possibilities, you will never be fully aware.

Remember you came to earth to become an ascended master walking the earth.

Ascended Masters are beings that have completed the cosmic ascension and have moved out of the cycle of life and death. Granted not all of them did it while alive, many did it through death, but took their physical body with them in death.

As the story of Jesus shows you, he changed his physical body into a light body. This is why you are here to do the same only a greater amount of people will be ascending as you at this time have the support of the frequencies that are being raised for the ascension of the earth.


Me: What about people that don’t believe this.

Isis: They should go within and find the answers. They should learn to speak to their own source being. They have to open up their awareness to reach the source level of their being and source within.

It is all about feeling, experiencing and knowing within all that is.

Do not limit yourself with beliefs as you reach higher parts of your being.

Just trusting that all will happen does not make it happen. All that is happening within your universe, the raising of the frequencies, the clearings. They are all actions. The many light workers that are assisting earth, their action is making it possible. It is the same for human beings, action is needed.

Trust is not an action, it is a perception or a belief.

This is not something that has just been decided and you are here to just be along for the ride. You all have chosen to be here to take part in the process, which means you take action to make the process possible.

The way to make it possible is to know what is happening on every level. To be able to counteract any influence that is preventing the process from happening. To ignore the competition would be foolish.

You all know this has been tried before, this is not the first cycle of 26.000 years.

You are here to work.

Yes you can take the ride into the 5th dimension, but you can also take the ride now and do everything you can to step out of this reality completely and ascend into a body of light.

The plan is not just coming from other beings, you are part of the group that was involved in the planning of this event. You prepared for this in other lifetimes, you set up the stage before you came here. Now it is time to play your part.

Me: What about other feelings than love?

Isis: You can use those feelings and transform them into action that might be needed. As you see something happening that is not right. You look at it, you feel your anger, or fear, or sadness. You look at what is needed to change the situation. It might be changing the situation from an anger or fear based into a love based. There are many reasons for many feelings, and many actually feel these feelings even though they are within a state of love. They are there to bring something to your attention.

Me: What if you are being attacked by someone, I mean you could be walking the street and someone attacks you?

Isis: Feelings of fear and anger will always be within the reality you are now. They protect you at times as there might be a need for protection at times. You still love in a 3rd dimensional world within the limitation of the physical body. Only a small percentage of your world is within a love consciousness.

Anger is not what created wars, differences in belief systems have created that. Anger has made people stand up against it and is the reason why you are now able to read many of the messages. As people were angry because of the wars, the control and many other things related to belief systems that were there to control them, they got angry and started to look for something that could take them out of the control they were under. To say that anger can be useful is an understatement.

Anger can make you take action against what is wrong.

If you feel anger there is a need to find where it is coming from within you, access the situation and see what is needed to change it if you have to change anything.

Feelings are meant for you to take a deeper look within and see why you feel that way. No matter what the feeling is.

Fear can make you take action or have you stay in a state of non-action. As love is the opposite of fear they have the same attributes. Love can make you take action or keep you in a state of non-action.

As you bring both, fear and love together, they bring part of the oneness.

As someone can attack you in the physical, it will be needed to defend yourself. You use some of these feelings to transform them into a power within you that will assist you in defending yourself.

As your consciousness expands to a higher awareness, there is still a need to be careful. Not all spiritual realms are in a consciousness of oneness.

This does not mean you have to be in a state of fear. When you move into a state of oneness, there is awareness of all that is happening within you and outside of you.

Me: Is trust a feeling?

Isis: Trust is a belief, it is not a feeling, if I trust you I can feel something within me that says I can trust you. But most of all it is that I believe I can trust you. If I feel fear around you I will not trust you. If I feel love around you I might trust you. I can be deceived however by someone who speaks with a satin tongue and makes me trust them, I belief what they are saying, trust what they are saying as they seem to have all the answers.

Me: As I understand ascension is happening all the time, we expand our awareness, our consciousness, raise our frequencies, these are all ascensions.

Isis: Yes these are all ascensions, as you are continuously ascending. Ascension means moving upward.

It is an ever evolving process of moving back and deeper into the oneness. There are completions of cycles in between. Like planetary ascension and cosmic ascension. Like the earth at this time completing a cycle within her evolutionary process.

Completion of planetary ascension and cosmic ascension can be done within the physical body. From there you are still ascending, and other cycles of completion will occur.

It is all part of returning to the oneness within you, and finding deeper levels of this oneness.

The oneness that you can experience within the physical body is only part of the oneness that you can experience within spirit.

You can know you are all one, but you have not experienced this oneness at all levels of your human being. If you did you would have no need for verbal communication. You would know the thoughts and feelings of each person on earth.

Me: Thank you.

Isis: Everything is within you as you explore the possibilities of each reality within.

Within the oneness we are connected.

We are One Being within the many universes, as we are within Source.

Isis

October 31, 2010

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I'M TELLIN YA IT FUKKEN SAYS THERE

Me: Who are the illuminati?

Isis: They are enlightened beings that have full conscious awareness of all levels. They are capable of using every frequency, including the love frequency of course, to create what they would like to create, a world under their control at all times. The ones really in control have been able to stay within conscious awareness throughout many of their lifetimes. It is not just a group that came here right now. They have been here for millions of years. The actual beings in control are a small group. The others are their workers. Some of them have awareness at many levels as they have studied just like you for many lifetimes. Some are from another planet, or other universe.

The contract has been made with them, that if we are able to ascend the earth, they will leave.

Until then they will do everything within their power to prevent ascension of the earth.

Now they have let you come a long way. But there is still control as many messages are coming from them as well. They have given you promises and little treats to keep you at a certain level of spiritual awakening.

Me: What is needed for the earth to ascend, how many people do we need?

Isis: We need people that are ready to complete cosmic ascension. The portal that needs to be opened is not at a 5th dimensional level as the earth is ascending into her light body.

The amount of people is unsure at this time, we don’t know how many more we can awaken to this path.

We will need more than we have now as they will have to carry the energies not just of opening the gate, but of all human beings that will move with the earth to the new earth reality.

Me: How many are awake at this time and how many are actually ready for cosmic ascension?

Isis: There are a little bit over 1000 awake enough to realize they need to be ready for cosmic ascension.

Of those 1000, none of them is there yet. They are still working on it but many are being distracted and many are only at the beginning. There are about 100 who have fully dedicated themselves to the cosmic ascension.

Me: How many are awake though that could start right now?

Isis: All light workers upon earth are awake enough to start, but they are not aware enough to realize the importance of cosmic ascension as many are still only within the love frequency. This is part of the control system, as the love frequency is what is holding them back. It is like when people say, you can reach god through Jesus. They are being taught that the only way to change this world is through love.

The only way to change this world is to become fully who you are in spirit, fully aware of all that is occurring. To bring every aspect of you within the 3rd dimension and prepare yourself to ascend out of the cycle of life and death.

This is what is needed to support the earth, as it will move you out of the limitations of a physical world. Allowing you to move into a deeper form of oneness. It will allow those that actually take this chance to become the new teachers within the new earth reality. As we are going to need more than just people who know about what it is to move into the 5th dimension. The new earth reality is going to need teachers that know how to step out of the cycle of life and death. Cosmic ascension.

As long as you limit the possibilities, you will never be fully aware.
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9/24/2005
Statement Insider:
I am a member of an Elite Family who you despise...ask me a question
and I will answer them in short.
Why?
Because I can.

Q:
What´s an "Elite Family"?
A:
That´s how most are calling it.
Families who for a long time have been ruling the people who are not from these bloodlines.

Q:
what´s your thoughts on "peak oil"
A:
It is known within certain circles that it is manufactured.
The Earth is producing more oil/gas than is being used now even believe it or not, it is a natural
process "the more you take, the more it produces to balance itself".
Study the bees and the way they produce honey and you will understand.
On top of that there are many places with large amounts of natural resources which never have
been touched.
The agenda?
I think you know.

Q:
what commonalities do the bloodlines share?
and have you ever fucked a child?
A:
Understand that "bloodlines" have been chosen to rule, it didn´t just appear out of air.
The souls which incarnate into these bloodlines who rule are picked by Divine Law.
Other things don´t have to be mentioned.
The second question shows you read to much Icke who is a tool that is being used.
But to answer, no.

Q:
Sorry, OP. No one rules me...never has!
A:
A little old saying:
The perfect slave is the one that says "I am not a slave".
It is like an alcoholic saying he isn´t an alcoholic so therefor he will always be an alcoholic.
Get my drift?

Q:
Where do you elites store your mentally ill relatives caused by centuries of inbreeding?
A:
It is a myth that inbreeding always causes problems.
If the 2 persons who procreate carry genes which are of better quality than the rest....

Q:
why have you allowed us to breed like rats if population is what you feel threatens you?
A:
1. We haven´t allowed that, you have more power than you think you have.
2. Population does not threaten "us" in any way, shape or form....again a myth.

Q by forum owner Trinity:
I am curious what a member of an ´elite family´ thinks of GLP.
So what do you think?
A:
The more divided people are, the easier it is to rule over them.
Making them believe they have a sword in their hand which they think makes them powerful and
able to fight "the dark sider" while it is just a toothpick.
You have to be very careful who you give that imaginary sword to, Trinity.
Do you know that not just spoken words but also written words emanate a frequency which have
a direct effect?
And I would say that a vast majority of the written words here are not helping the cause you
think you are fighting for.

Q:
What is your religious affiliation?
A:
Religion is created by "us".
The religions which rule now are the ones that are under total control.
I can´t give out to much about this but Christianity/Judaism/Islam/Buddhism are a bit off, let´s
say.
There is a core of truth, but it is drowning in a sea of perversions....for you to pick out, good luck.
What we believe in does not matter but it is about serving the Divine Law which was passed onto
us.

Q:
How about the world economy?
A:
One thing conspiracy theorists are right about is that it is based on money that doesn´t exist,
never existed, never will.
The ones who own the banks also own the media and politics, so it can be portrayed the way they
want you to believe it.

Q
When will the wheat be separated from the chaff?
Or do you want to get rid of the wheat and leave
the chaff for your slaves?
Whichever, when will it happen?
(tired of false dates, please be honest this time)
A:
I know 100% sure there is no end time, at least not like it is being portrayed everywhere, be it
religion, media, etc.
This place was never meant to end the way it is being described.
There will be a time when everyone will be released but that is not a mass event, but rather 1 by
1....work on yourself.

Q:
I´m curious to know why the Elite do not lead? They seem to be more of a parasite on society.
A:
A fish in the ocean can´t see that birds are flying in the sky.

Q:
Have you or any of your family members ever participated in an occult ritual and, if yes, what was the
nature of it?
A:
Rituals have a meaning which cannot be understood by most.
Rituals are there to connect with the higher beings who govern this realm.
We are doing our job.

Q:
well I´d have to say your divine law has fucked up this planet and its people very well!
A:
Peasants like you don´t understand that you do it, nobody else.
Btw, by what you just said you lenghtened your stay here on Earth one more lifetime....my
condolences.

Q:
Do you frequent the Bohemian Grove and fully participate... in cremation of care.. sacrifice to
Molech ... screwing the male homosexual prostitutes... orgies ... etc..
A:Those and other similar places are for the politicians and media people, they are obligated.
Sometimes a bloodline will be present but will not participate in those acts which are not the
rituals we do.

Comment from Insider:
Accidental Stoner
Those were many questions....
Most I would answer yes, some no.
Don´t believe all that "gurus" tell about us and you will do fine.

Q:
do you consider the prevalence/success of organised crime families and syndicates as a massive failure
of your colle3ctive will?
A:
They are there for a reason.
They aren´t as succesful as they look though, they are broken.

Q:
Why do you continue to attempt to control mass consciousness by by spreading fear though every
outlet available to you.
Why not set the knowledge free as was intended long ago, the written word is spreading the wings of
truth.
The sword has been given to the sheep, and the day of reconing is soon at hand. I believe in no law of
divinity or hierarchy, we are all equal unto th eyes of the creator and for that must you answer in your
time.
The meek are inheriting the Earth presently, I pray for you.
A:
If that was the aim, it would be done in an instant.
You do not understand what this world we live in really is.

Q:
I have no questions. I do however have a statement.
The time of reckoning is at hand.
A:
It is not.

Q:
it goes..the best slave is one who thinks he is free.
13..ultimately it is all a matter of genes, n´est ce pas?
do you understand self-cloning?
do you agree that the planet is replete with false allies and false enemies?
A:
That´s not how it originaly goes....about the slave.
If you read carefuly you will see.
Last question has a yes as an answer, there are also no real allies or enemies.

Q:
Op IF you are indeed who & what you say you are, then you will know that you and your ilk are in big
trouble... Your time is short and those you belong to, who are in our space quadrant as we speak,
already know it! I imagine they are a tad busy right at this moment. But of course you must keep up
appearances even when you know you fight a losing battle.
Personally I will be very happy to see the day... and it is coming, sooner than you think ;)
A:
There is no end of time.
A long time ago, the people did ALMOST manage to take over, and then bad things happened on
earth to those people....what are you seeing now?
Are you really living on the planet you think you are?

Q:
The "higher beings who govern this realm", do you serve them? By what names do you call them?
Have you ever seen them? Where do they reside?
A:
They penetrate everything and they are benevolent.

Q:
dang insider you skipped my question about what really hit the pentagon....does that mean you aren´t
going to answer it?
A:
Does it matter what hit it?

Q:
Too much question dodging
A:
I did not sign a contract which says I have to answer everything.
Some questions do not need an answer and others do not mean a thing eventhough you think it
does.
I will be back tomorrow.

9/25/2005
Statement by Insider:
How strange that some of you who talk about love, light and peace are the ones who 2 sentences
later cuss and talk about murdering others, smirking about it being soon..
Are you sure you are on the "good" side?
And who is Natascha?
For the ones who are a bit smarter than that, ask away, I will answer the way I choose to.
Before you ask the question, force yourself to think outside the box that was created for you by
others...ask a real question that you thought about, formulate it in detail.
For the others, if you could leave out cussing, hate, bigotry and prejudice (which is based on your
gurus´ amazing wisdom), it would show you are a bit more evolved from the peasant stage.
I will not answer all questions, sometimes because it is obvious if you think about it or parts of it
have been answered, other times because I do not have the obligation to do so.

Q:
so is bill gates more elite than you?
how about queen elizabeth?
are you an arab?
can´t you control the oil instead of the arabs?
A:
The ones you know the names of are not true bloodlines like you have been taught by theorists.
They are not the ones who write the symphony, neither conduct it.
The ones you mentioned and other known names merely play the violin or cello when they are
told to, the way they are told to.
It does not matter what race I am, has no effect on anything.
Oil is already under full control like all natural resources.

Q:
Why does visualization work?
A:
It does not work for everybody, you have to reach a certain stage in your development.
This means living by strict rules, applying them to everything you do in life, in detail.
Most humans do not have the discipline nor temparence to achieve that stage.
Some here talk like they can, but I know even without knowing anything about their lives that
they are further away from it than they think.
"Visualisation" works because it is an essential way of the creational process in this material
universe.
The Universe is a living entity who uses it´s Mind to create and the beings created from that may
have that same power to within their boundaries.

Q:
Now the question is, who is using Icke?
and better question... Why?
A:
Icke has a core of truth he is trying to pass.
What he does not realise is that this actually works against him.
The reptilian part was fed him by the ones who work for the bloodlines.
In a period of 7, 8 months he was bombarded with "victims" who witnessed shape-shifting,
satanic rituals, etc. in such a way he could not refuse to not believe it.
Sometimes the "witnesses" were lead to him a few times a day, depending on his location.
Others like Icke (and there are more than you think) have been fed similar stories.
Really, I am not reptilian.
The answer why does not have to be answered.

Q:
Hello Insider!
Are you part of the Divine Brotherhood? Are you ME? Are you he who manipulates the Matrix?
Enquiring minds want to know, cuz I´m thoroughly confused. You say we despise you, but I could not
imagine despising any Being from the Devine Realms! Then you act like your part of the "elite
bloodline" on Earth, but what would bloodlines have to do with the Spiritual world? Again...I´m
confused. Could you clarify? Just what IS the Elite of whom you say we despise, and yet who
apparently has all the "inside scoop"??
sigh Sammie
A:
You are confused for you have accepted the other versions of the "truth" and you think you have
a sight of the big picture, but what I say dismisses huge parts of it.
There is a misconception about bloodlines....obviously, the questions that are being asked here
prove that.
But there is a reason for that, and it serves an important purpose.
We manipulate this world only as far as we are allowed to by the Divine Law.
We provide you with tools and then it us up to you to determine how you use it.
Tools can be used in a maliscious way but noone is forcing you to use them that way....you are
choosing yourself.
So despising the ones who provide you with the tool that you voluntarily chose to "sin" with is
about you trying to camouflage your tracks.
You get what you deserve, that is how this universe works.
We do our duty, so do yours.

Q:
There is a very old saying...unrecorded in open history--"the devil doesn´t know he´s the devil...he
thinks he´s God."
A:
Wrong.
It actually states that humans who worship the "bad" think they worship the "good".

Q:
"You do not understand what this world we live in really is."
-----------
Care to elaborate on this statement...?
Regards,
Further Considerations
A:
Only if you formulate the question and understand that certain questions need to be answered by
yourself only not others, otherwise they have no purpose.

Q:
Hey 13 --
I´m not coming back to your planet next time.
Smoke on that.
A:
What gave you the impression that when that time comes, you have a say in that?

Q:
What is the reason that your people came to this planet?
A:
Almost the same reason you came.

Q:
Now, what "elite" family does anyone know well enough to "despise"?
Dubya, is that you?
A:
To clear this up once and for all....the Bushs are not bloodline.....in fact, they are your kind who
wanted to be worshipped by your kind.
I will sum it up again in short, the ones that have known faces/names are not directly bloodline.
They are not the composers/conductors, they just play the flute the way they are told to.
Bushs, Clintons, Sharons, Arafats, Hitlers, Dalai Lamas, Mandelas, Blairs, Gores, Chavezs,
Ghandis, Kennedys, Lennons, Dylans, Einsteins, Michaelangelos, Popes, Ceasars, Aristotles,
Herodotus, Akhenatons.
They all play/played their part the way they are/were told to.
These people who love recognition and praise of your kind would not be allowed to be in the
same room with some people I am related to.

Q by forum owner Trinity :
Insider,
Rather than give them a sword (or a toothpick), I give them a canvas and a pen.
The words as you say have vibration and effect.
And though yes many that are written here are contrary to the ONE, some ring true.
It is those few, that matter most.
I was recently asked by a friend of mine,
"what do you do when you have mastered the game?"
This seems like a question that would apply to one in your situation as well.
My answer was, "save as many as you can".
I am curious to know, What is yours?
A:
If it has an immediate effect it is not a canvas and a pen anymore but a sword...an imaginary one
but nonetheless a sword.
And it is not working the way you think it does.
You say most are contrary to the One and that is true, in fact almost all is contrary.
But you say because of the few that ring "true" it is worth it.
You cannot have 2 contrary essences at the same time/place eventhough they may have the same
spring.
Which means one of the 2 is not present here....do I have to tell you which one that is?
About mastering the game.
How does one know they have mastered it?
Does someone else tell them?
See, if the "master" is not really a master yet he acts like one it will mean he will make errors.
He will have flawed thoughts and act accordingly.
People will start listening to him and adopt the flawed opinions and way of living.....eventually he
will do more harm than 1 bloodline actually has the power to do personally.
Hence why "leaders" have been created for you who "have mastered their game".
Jesus of Nazareth is a nice example.
He was created, this human has many worshippers and they have murdered in his name and still
do (Bush).
Jesus of Nazareth was not a master of the game, he was a puppet being used in the game and he
still is serving the agenda among you.
So you might think you are saving as many as you can like him but are you really?
How would I answer the question "what do you do when you have mastered the game?"
Checkmate.

Q:
Is Earth a prison?
A:
Yes and even worse.
The ones who believe the contrary will never escape.

Q:
Why, oh why would an alleged member of an "elite family" waste one minute minute of their time, or
give credence to the cespool that is GLP?
A:
Bloodlines are not robots who all act the same.
You are confusing the ones who you think control you with others.

Q:
Now on the population reduction... We have a few brewing like AIDS... however, it has been my feeling
that the "release" of a bio, will be in a timely fashion cloaked in chaos from another event. What say
you on that?
A:
There is no plan to reduce the population, that is fully in the hands of the people.
However certain events have been seen as just that while they are serving another purpose....a
misconception.
Just because it comes across like population reduction does not mean it is exactly that.
Really, if the goal was population reduction, it would have been done a long time ago in a span of
a few weeks.
In fact the opposite is more true in most areas on this planet.
What you said could happen but it would be done by the ones who control the lower areas.
The ones up higher do it through the daily items you consume.

Q:
Was Yahweh an extraterrestrial negative entity? Or was he a fiction invented by the Jewish fantasy
factory during the time the Greeks ruled Palestine?
A:
If the name of an entity is public, it means it is fabricated.
Yahweh used to represent an age where mass-control was taking shape.

Q:
Ah, so Mormons are the only ones who are barking up the right tree. Authority and all that.
A:
No.

Q:
1). Don´t you get sick and tired of the lack of real quality in the Music and the Movies?
With your power/money/influence why do you not prime the pump with some really good stuff?
2). What are the three things that have you concerned about most regarding the upsetting of the
applecart? [Things that are beyond the direct control of the PTB that you are scrambling to prepare
against]
3). Who owns and runs the show on planet earth? Please list the major player groups who actually
answer to each successive level beginning from the top down. Descriptions are fine if you don´t want to
divulge names. Is it like a pyramid, or is it a number of factions vying for power/control?
4). What is the real story on the greys and are they still major players currently?
5). What do you fear the most?
6). What is the real story you haven´t told us because we haven´t asked yet??
A:
1. The ones who search hard will find the gems in Music, in fact they are out in the open.
It is not our duty to enlighten you, that is yours.
We hand out the tools that can be used in the way you choose to, "good or bad".
2. Nothing to do with us but with the puppets.
3. The shape of a Pyramid yes, but people forgot the underground chamber.
The Top of the Pyramid is not the top.
5. Fear is based on physical impulses, the physical is not important.

Q:
My full-blood Italian maternal lineage traces back to King Charles I (Charlemange) but by name,
Count Dotto Dotti who was the captain of the archers for Prince Phillipe (King Charles IV) and who
was part of the coup to secure the ´secret´ from the Merovingians and the Knights Templar. I won´t
discuss the secret, which I am sure of, but I don´t understand why you operate in the fashion that you
do and I operate in the fashion that I do then as a result. This does not mean that I am of any
particular bloodline that is part of the ultimate that you speak of, but my life is far more progressive
than anyone that I know scientifically and professionally regardless of the economy (change thereof
coming shortly). And I do see the ´illusion´ all around me.
Explain this please.
A:
I have explained it a bit.
Your lineage is not what you think it is.
Charlemagne (like other "kings") merely played the flute, like his descendants do now in politics
especially.
However if there are traces of the lineage within you (and this goes deeper than just blood and
genes as you know) then obviously you will understand your surrounding better than others.
There are people who are directy linked and they will act differently.

Q:
Do you think Insider that
This current battle is in two stages. Now, on the etheric. And, a thousand years from now, on the
astral, once all the HEart people have dropped their physical bodies and HAVE GRADUATED TO
HIGHER LIFE FORMS, THE NEXT BEING THE ASTRAL. Then,
The whole show starts all over again, with different players.
A:
You are confusing a few matters.
There is just 1 struggle and it is now, here on this planet and on a personal level....meaning you
only.
There is no enemy you can attack except yourself.
If you are busy attacking something else, you are wasting precious energy and you will fail.
If you succeed, there will be no struggle anymore.

Q:
Dear Insider,
You state that we have the tools to work with. Can you tell us some of them, something to work with so
we may free ourselves?
You agree that we are on a prison planet. I thought more like a Zoo, where we are being observed and
studied. But if we are on a prison planet, than I must understand that we truly have no free will.
Correct?
Thank you
A:
The tools are in your hands, around you, everywhere...it is even being drawn out of you.
It is your duty towards yourself to reveal them to yourself and then do as you please with
them....there is always a consequence.
Prisoners still can determine what they do in their prison with the tools that were provided to
them, they can decide how to walk in the yard, how to talk, think...
You have free will therefore you suffer and are aware of your suffering.
Q:
Dear Insider,
Thank you for answering my first two questions and your time.
I should have asked this question with the first two, but alas I do now. Why give me tools to escape a
prison? Sounds counter productive to what a prison is for.
I have known that the PTB are puppets moved around by hands that we cannot see, nor may ever see,
but why make them look and act (seemingly) stupid or at the least illogical? Are you wanting a
revolution?
What you are saying is that the war is within - not without - though TPTB seem to want us to think it is
without - why distract us? What is it that they don´t want us to accomplish? Freedom?
And yes, I am reminded everyday of my suffering.
Thanks
A:
We are neutral and doing our duty which many times comes across as being negative.
If you observe closely you will see we merely spreading the tools which can be used by you to free
yourself or chain yourself, your choice.
The Divine Law has a purpose for you and it is not on this planet.
Prove you are worthy again to be released.
The distraction is part of that.
It is about knowing who is and who is not.
The ones who support any of these known faces are failing.

Q:
It sounds like you are cautioning Trinity against giving full reign to freedom of speech? Is thi correct?
A:
He may do as he pleases and accept the consequences in the bigger picture.

Q:
What is your interpretation of the Divine Law and how can I make peace with myself?
A:
Knowing yourself and where you really are, are the 2 most important issues that you should be
involved with.
It is your task to find out.
In fact, if someone gave you the correct answers, it would not mean a thing to you for they would
not be attached to you in a way they would if you would have found them yourself.
If you find the answers to those, you have accomplished a huge part of your duty towards
yourself.
After that your task would be living according to the Divine Law which is revealed to you after
that stage untill departure.
I may be back tomorrow, maybe Tuesday.

9/26/2005
Statement by Insider:
NOTE: I am Insider, AC 13, the former proxy I was using disappeared.
So I am using another one with another ID.

Statement by Insider:
Insider/AC 13 again, yet another proxy....the last one disappeared too right after posting.
It is getting difficult for me to enter and stay here but I will go on as long as possible.

Q:
Question to the insider (AC 13):
Are you familiar with the Black Nobility?
I have traced and linked all ancient royal families of Europe and the Middle East still present to this
day. I know their names and their connections to power, wealth and influence across the world.
I can even identify the very person who is the potential Anti-Christ (he has all the correct makings - a
wonderful, benign young man who has yet to realize his full potentiality as a world leader). The Black
Nobility love this young man.
And lastly, are you a small part of the Black Nobility, Insider?
A:
The Dark Nobility is a faction which operates on their own, they have different roots which have
been described in texts written by my ancestors.
It is a much smaller group than most would claim, because the core is different to the "outer
walls".
They are the ones which you all confuse with my kind and therefor direct the hate towards the
wrong ones (as shown in this thread too by the lesser intelligent).
About the Anti-Christ....there are at this moment literally billions of Anti-Christs.
I am not one.
You will find them among Christians, Muslims, Jews, Atheists, Satanists, Agnostics, Buddhists,
Hindus, etc.
They don´t need a leader to be more Anti-Christ.
I have to make clear that The Christ has nothing to do with Jesus of Nazareth, that part was later
fabricated.

Q:
Gnostic number 13,do you subcribe to the view,that our dualistic reality provides excellent
opportunities for souls to develop unconditional love,so they may transcend our dialectic
universe,rather than escaping from it?
Do you also believe in the law of balance and karma,allowing a soul to be king in one lifetime,a
beggar in the next? If so,it doesn´t really matter whether you´re a member of the elite,it may be a
unique experience on soul level,as unique as any role in society,as long as the soul progresses.
Is the historian Laurence Gardner a powerful member of the elite as Icke claims,or is he just an
average guy with access to hidden information? Thanks for your communication,Insider.(hope this
thread isn´t a practical joke by some juvenile person.Trust you´re for real)
A:
It is the task of every soul to accomplish that while in this human shape.
There is a part that can be called escaping which will be followed by transcending....if failing,
reincarnation.
However the word "love" is misunderstood....it is not meant to be the love in human terms which
humans are enslaved by.
That is the corrupt version of the real one.
The Divine Law controls what is called karma, but it is much broader and "harsher" than people
want to accept.
Example: someone who gets cancer and dies a slow painful death deserves it, that person is being
corrected, it is for his own good.
Sounds "harsh"?
That´s the way it works.
Just because it comes across as negative in this realm does not mean it is negative in the big
picture.
What you are talking about (reincarnating into the opposite of your former life), there is no
universal law which states that will definitely happen.
Reincarnation is a fact though, but if you achieve your task there is no reincarnation, no need to
experience all levels of life on Earth for they are mainly pointless to experience.
Gardner is one of those persons who wants to be praised and recognised by the people, so he gets
it in return for some favors (spreading misinfo which here and there contain the facts, which
hooks people).
He was initiated in certain levels but it is not as in depth as one would think (including himself),
he is clever though.
He is a member of at least 6 "societies" (although 3 of them are closely linked and could be seen
as 1, so 4 at least) but these have only as much power/control as you the people give them.
People like Icke are giving them more power unknowingly.
I am real.

Q:
Is this because Christians teach that individuals should be under the control of a God who is holy? Or
should I say, one who judges right and wrong?
A:
Christianity is about idolising a human called Jesus of Nazareth first, which is an abomination.
Christians teach what they have been told to teach by the ones they oppose.
I can tell you who the 4 individuals were who wrote the Hebrew old testament and the exact date,
if it suited me.
Same about your new testament which was gathered by 6 people from 2 different areas.

Q:
And why do you misspell simple words such as ´malicious´? I find that very interesting.
A:
English is not my native language, not even my second nor third, maybe fourth and I type fast
without checking so I can answer as many questions as possible in a limited amount of time.
On top of this I just realized I have to type even faster because the proxies I use disappear.

Q:
Why do you choose to speak Now?
A:
Some of us have the task to do it within certain boundaries.
How do you suppose certain knowledge in past times was suddenly there?
Luck, chance, coincidence?

Q:
Questions
0 - What is this Divine Law you talk about?
1 - Why do you MANIPULATE this world?
2 - Why do - YOU - manipulate this world?
3 - How do you know who is allowing you?
4 - Is your job given to you or taken by you?
5 - Are you a Human Being?
-------------- YOU AGAIN -------------
"The Divine Law has a purpose for you and it is not on this planet. Prove you are worthy again to be
released."
-------------- ME AGAIN -------------
I know it and i can feel it. There is a purpose for my life.. But I don´t even know who i am let alone that
i know what my purpose is.
6 - How is this knowledge gained? By hard work or does it simply happen to one?
7 - Do you know the purpose of yur life? If so how did you learn about it?
Regarding the planet we live on:
8 - On which planet do we live? What is the Planet earth anyway?
9 - What can you tell us about Mohammed (pbuh)?
A:
0. The Divine Law is the manifestation of the Will of the Superior One which not only creates
everything that exists within this universe but also maintains, nourishes, balances, energises and
renews it.
It also reigns in other realms, including the realm you originally belong to.
1. + 2. I have answered this many times, it is our duty.
3. + 4. Rituals have a purpose.
If you are doing something which was not allowed or doing a task which was not given to you,
you will suffer during these rituals.
In your daily life you will notice it too.
Emanations have many forms and one who knows about these matters will have no trouble
recognising with whom he is dealing with and what the message is.
5. I am like you present in this human shape.
6. This has been answered by me in a previous post, in short you have the duty to "gain it".
Temperance will lead you to the rightful place from where it all starts.
Before this you must know yourself and what this place is (where most people go wrong),
otherwise your thoughts will be filled with error which will lead to erroneous ways.
7. Yes.
These matters are not passed on to you in detail by someone, that actually will lead to the
opposite of what needs to be achieved (hence my way of answering, understand this).
You can be guided up to a certain point and then it is up to you.
9. Looking at the way you summon his name I assume you are a Muslim.
It is a "sin" to worship/idolize/praise humans who were part of this planet in any way, shape or
form, including when talking/writing about them.
You by adding those letters in brackets have just done that, elevating his name up to that of
higher beings.
A human is corrupt while on this planet.....each and single one of them.
A "death" does not change the personality one had and leave behind here, do not feed it.
Praise and prayers may only be offered to perfect beings.
Muhammed was like Jesus, Mozes, Abraham, Buddha, a human who was lead to believe he was a
knower, or like mentioned earlier "master of the game".
It is very easy to make humans believe they are enlightened and know the truth...and then
thinking it is their task to wake up others.
He was used and his legacy is still being used to divide people, just like the other
religions/ideologies/"philosophies".
2 of his closest assistants were servants of the bloodlines, 1 of his wives was too (bloodline
servants were also assistants of Jesus, Buddha, Mozes, name them all).
After his death it was made sure by these 3 that his followers would be divided which was the
main thing Muhammed was told to be against.
So Muslims who believe in seperate streams of Islam are actually rebelling against their own
"prophet"....and that would be pretty much all Muslims.
The kuran has a core of truth but it is floating in a sea of perversions, together with the other
"holy" books.
It was written by 4 individuals from 3 "countries" 1 being western, 2 middle-eastern.

Q:
Insider 13 are you Antichrist?
A:
Jesus of Nazareth is not the Christ, nor is anything I have said Anti-Christ.
The ones who claim the opposite are.

Q:
So, is a family where the children are naturally born with this ability *viisualization*, part of the
´bloodline´?
A:
No.
In fact someone who has no connections to these families whatsoever can have this ability too.
This ability is there for everyone to receive.....you have to dial in.
It is being provided by the Divine Law to everything that searches for it.
I tried to make this clear earlier.....the blood/genes/etc are not as important as they seem.
The physical realm is weak and it cannot affect the Divine.
Someone with no connections to the families can be affected by Divinity in such a way that he
could surpass anything the bloodlines ever could achieve combined.
Certain individuals get born into the bloodlines to be able to reign over the people under certain
circumstances, that is what the bloodline mainly is about.

Q:
To me Elite means those who place money before people or any real values at all....and those who hold
office either because they can buy it or inherit it regardless of whether or not they are qualified.
A:
You just skillfully described your kind, not mine.

Q:
are you a Rothschild? Here is my question, although petty in light of the many questions posed to you
on this thread, why aren´t the any of the Rothschilds listed in Forbes top 500 richest people.
A:
If you read closely you would have not asked this question.
The ones who are known in public are not in control, the Rothschilds are at the same level as
your Knights Templar ancestors were....you shouldn´t be proud that you are from that lineage by
the way.
These known families/clans/societies are merely dancers to the tune.
But to answer your question, no I am not a Rothschild.
Which family am I from?
Most here talk about the bloodlines who rule, yet they do not know who they are.
They wrongly assume they are the Bushs/Clintons/Rothschilds/etc. because some theorists
"researched" it and some "insiders" told them by providing evidence.
I am from a ruling family whose name rarely has been mentioned in history, noone will even
know who we are.
Second, you accepting Forbes as a reliable source for these kind of lists shows you are easily
manipulated and do not grasp what is happening.

Q:
Worthy ....an interesting word. Are you expecting those of us who know about the world of polarity and
try our best not to play the polarity game, to believe that we need to be worthy? In whose eyes? It can
only be our own.
Whatever happened to the idea that ´the Universe is within us´? Gaia and all other dimensional
´realities´ are Illusions, No? So the prison is an illusion, right?
p.s. Baby, and btw, we DON´T HAVE FREE WILL ON THIS PLANET....perhaps you slip is showing?
A:
Do you know who manufactured this new age nonsense you just promoted?
If this prison is a "true illusion", get out then right now, I dare you.
It is not like in the movies.
You play the victim part.
You do not even accept you have free will, therefore you will always be ruled over, never prevail
and deserve everything you get according to universal laws.
I may be back tomorrow.

9/27/2005
Statement by Insider:
Test
Before I start, I have to say I cannot see all posts, some are blank so I may miss questions.
If so ask again.
Refrain from asking the same questions over and over again, first check the thread, check my
answers, I do tell about areas which were not asked about but may have been on your mind, read
carefully.

Q:
...and if these beings are LUCIFERS...?????
answer in 5 words or less, pleze
A:
You used 12 words and 1 number, without realising it you started a part of a ritual...are you a
"being of lucifer"?
Different beings have different characteristics which makes it easy to identify them during
rituals.
If it was a "malicious" being guiding me, I would not be talking in the way I do.
Someone who is lead by "malicious" forces cannot utter/write certain words, phrases without it
affecting him.
The ones who are lead by them also cannot accept hearing/reading certain things without getting
overly mad/agressive (see the thread for examples).
This is when "malicious" beings are present:
Everytime you cuss, talk negative, plot a scheme, get violent, utter lies, support murder, get
sexually aroused, get afraid, get jealous, even laugh out loud, being overly joyfull (so all related to
emotions/passions/desires), they appear near you.....one, two, three, or more of them.
"Malicious" beings are from this realm, this is their home.
You cannot hate them for they are doing their task, their rightful duty and it is connected to your
behaviour....understand, you are the perpetrator, they react.
They never instigate, you do.
If you do hate them you are missing an important part of the reality....respect them up to a
certain point.
This will also show you are conscious about them and that will be recognised.
I type "malicious" because they are not malicious, they only appear to you in your manufactured
perception to be so.
People are perpetrators who play the victim part.

Q:
1 How does real conciousness interface with this prison?
2 What are the techniques to break the hold of the interface and "free" the conciousness?
A:
1 + 2. Depends what is meant by real conciousness and interface, from where I stand they could
be almost the opposite of what you may mean.
Real conciousness is what is provided to you when you are in tune with the Mind of the Universe
which operates according to the Divine Law (they are not the same like many are lead to believe).
This Mind penetrates everything, it rules over everything, so if you would connect with it you
may experience it´s unlimited power.
No prison can confine this power, hence there will be an escape, you will be guided up to a certain
point, yet most work is to be done by you.
But that is just the beginning, much work lies ahead concerning yourself.
I have explained a few times as far as I am allowed to how to connect, at least how to start with it.
It truly is up to you.
I would hesitantly add that studying ancient texts will help (although a lot is filled with
perversions and wrong translations, intentionally) but this only after a certain level of
awakening, you will recognise/remember the small parts which are true.
If you are not on that level you will take parts of the perversions/wrong translations as the truth
(as a few show it here, especially 1 religious stream) and fail.

Q:
Care to tell us which it is? You some sorta good guy who gives up tools or do you rule over us?? DId
you change your mind or what??
A:
Neutral means in the terms I used, neither negative nor positive, merely providing the tools you
can choose to use as you wish....you are the perpetrator.
Or would you say I control every aspect of your life, every hour, every minute, every second and
force you what to think/say/do?
Do not be mad at the wrong individual.

Q:
Is it necessary to know why we are here to escape, or just work out where we are?
Are the answers to be found "inside" or by "joining" soocieties, or by appealing top divine
intervention, or all three?, or none.
You have answered no other of my questions, I hope I have not offended
A:
It is necessary to have a view of the whole spectrum, when it is partial it will be like looking
through the window while it is partially covered with a curtain.
You do not know what is behind that covered part therefore cannot act accordingly.
What covers the whole spectrum?
Understand this place, what and where it is, know what you are, how you came here, why you
came here, how to return.
Prepare yourself for the answers, cleanse yourself, reach out for the Mind, speak (within-"without")
that you are ready, live strictly according to the answers.
Do not join "secret societies", never, whatever the circumstances are.
Also no religions, including the new age, do not accept human
gurus/prophets/priests/rabbis/imams/popes/fortunetellers/&quo​t;mediums"/dalai
lamas/politicians/authors/scientists/"celebrities"/paren​ts/etc. as legitimate authority on Divine
matters....on other matters it is your choice to accept or decline, however accept the consequence.
You only need yourself and the Divine, no intervention by others in bodies....again, no
intervention by anybody.
If your father asks you for a glass of water to show if you care for him and are disciplined, do you
bring it directly to him or do you take the glass of water to your neighbor and ask him to tell you
what it is that your father really asked, while the neighbor did not hear it and now is drinking the
glass of water himself?
Am I also a neighbor?
I have not touched the glass of water, I opened the door and told you to go back to your father.
No one has offended me, people offend themselves.
I would be offended if what I say was against the One and if it is, I shall pay.
I answer the questions from where I left and type as much as time allows me.
Sometimes I skip a question because it has been answered, other times the question is irrelevant
and now also because I can´t see all posts.

Q:
So, what are your comments on NESARA/PLANET X/POLE SHIFT/FIRST CONTACT/SECOND
COMING?
Who or what is behind these fairy tales and why?
A:
NESARA: counterproductive to you personally in the long run.
PLANET X: does not exist anymore like so many planets, moons, stars, galaxies.
Their demise however always brings forth something, which means they never stop being part of
the whole, playing their part.
POLE SHIFT: it happened 2 times to my knowledge, in the 2nd and 3rd era, if necessary it will
be done again.
SECOND COMING: you returning back to where you belong after you have succeeded, which
means a second coming cannot take place on Earth for you do not belong here.
People who are waiting for a "saviour" on Earth to do all the work for them are all failing.
I have noticed some Christians have gotten angry and are attacking me on a personal level by
damning me, it is their choice.
I talked more about Christianity than other religions because the questions gave room for that.
I would say and have said similar things about the other religions/ideologies when asked about
them.

Q:
What interests me is this: if someone takes the time and trouble to follow up the leads and clues left in
numerous books and legends, and sorts out the wheat from the chaff, what then? If that person puts
into practice what they have learnt, do they come closer to the truth that the bloodlines evidently have
access to?
A:
Yes.
Again, the bloodline is only important for ruling over people, it is not about having a special
power that makes one more aware, although the knowledge is being passed on so therefore it
appears like that.
But this knowledge is not hidden, the Truth cannot be hidden, It wants to be known by you,
inviting you every moment of your life.
That is the reason why It through the ruling powers is being provided to you accompanied with
perversions, corrupt additions. to confuse and make you accept the latter.
There is not 1 written book which contains the Truth and nothing but the Truth.
Pick It out and live accordingly to It, incorporate It into every aspect of your life....that is the
hardest part for people for you have to float above this physical/material world while being in the
body that dictates the opposite.

Q:
How close to the truth are the writings of Neale Donald Walsch in his Conversations with God series?
Are you in any way related to the Bird Tribes mentioned in Ken Carey`s Starseed Millenium books?
Is there much truth in the writings of Sheldan Nidle of www.paoweb.com ?
A:
The Native Americans have preserved knowledge succesfully but nowadays (and the last century
orso) it is being presented in an erronneous fashion.
Integration is "working".
About the authors mentioned; like I posted before it is not in your interest to accept human
intervention/advisors/salesmen between you and the Divine.
They may say certain things which are true, yet it will never be complete.

Q:
Noone on this earth has the power to "free" any of us. Noone outside this earth sees a reason to free
any of us. The divine source itself (if there is such a thing) is waiting for us to free our own selves,
individually. There will be no "mass ascention" no "mass enlightenment" and "we the people" have all
been duped by "we the people" into prolonging our sentence here. We can stay here in this place for
eternity if that is our choice, and we have created a belief system that allows us to do so.
A:
I would leave out the sentences "Noone outside this earth sees a reason to free any of us." and
"(if there is such a thing)".
About the first sentence, there was a time when there were beings who had the power to do it but
that was not their task.
And The Divine Source IS....there is no "waiting", "wanting", etc.
You are on the way, the other post showed that too, but living it is an important part of the task.

Q:
And by Divine Law, Christ was sent here to correct the situation.
A:
Yes, but Christ did not descend into the body of a human called Jesus of Nazareth, 2014 years
ago on March 20th, almost 2 hours before sunrise (which is the secret time of birth of your "son
of god").
The Christ (which has a different "real" name but I will use this name here) appeared once, just
once, and this was in another era, not even close to our era where Jesus of Nazareth also lived in.
Do you know who keeps the knowledge about the real Christ alive?
And do you know who keeps the knowledge about the fake christ(s) alive?
The opposite of what you are thinking.

Q:
Why do all elitists worship lucifer the liar and deceiver?
A:
Billions of people on this planet are serving their own corrupt
material/physical/mental/emotional desires, are they all elitist?

Q:
Is there currently a family feud between the "higher beings"?
A:
The higher beings are not in physical bodies, they have no "feuds", they are not under the
control of this realm therefore cannot suffer from this.
You are referring to human bloodlines and I reckon it is pretty obvious from what I have been
writing here what the answer to your question is....their always have been some who do not do
their duty.
I am from a minority.
People do not see a difference between the factions.

Q:
Red Chinese get HAARP retaliation for Rita: Super Typhoon ** Eye for Eye **
?????????????????????????????
What about this`???
A:
Do not pay attention to the "world events", they are all orchestrated to make you pay attention
to them.
The struggle you should pay attention to is on a personal level.

Comment by Insider:
Charlane,
Reading what you wrote:
1. You are not acting/talking like one of that lineage, which is a good thing because they were
ignoring their task.
It means that subconsciously you have disattached yourself from that lineage (eventhough
consciously you may not, this is important to understand).
You have passed a certain level which I did too almost 11 years ago.
2. You excelling in certain areas is not just genes, they have a bit different purpose.
It is about what I mentioned above.
Il vecchio sentiero è vicino *The old path is near*
Comment by Insider:
Oazaki / Hiko Seijuro / Aiki-Mei,
Before accepting a certain knowledge, you have to investigate where it comes from.
Do you know where the "knowledge" that you just typed out comes from, when it was released,
how it became and by whose hands?
More importantly, who controlled those hands documenting it?
I am saying this with the best of intentions.
If you knew it, you would not have posted it in that fashion.
Investigate the roots of what you said and see for yourself, it is for your own good.
Knowledge does not just appear out of nothing, it is passed on, always...there are no exceptions.

Q:
And, you´re part of an "elite family", that we despise, yet, no one has ever heard of you?
Why would we despise someone(s), that we don´t know of?
Why do we despise you?
Do we even know that we despise your family?
Or, is it because of what you know about what we consume on a daily basis that we would despise you,
if we knew what it was?
and
If the ones we know the names of are not the "true bloodlines" and you say that you are a member of
an elite family whom we despise, then you are inferring that we know you, in order that we may
despise you. How can this be, if the "true bloodlines" are the names and faces of people we do not
know? Is it more the nature of your presence we despise or the position you take in life we despise?
And, if that is so, then do all people despise you or just those who do not know or understand your true
intent and/or nature?
A:
Last time I will answer this one.
It is about the misconception about who rules.
Terms are being used which do not apply to my family yet they are part of the ruling.
The flawed perception of the nature of the presence and the flawed perception about the
positions which lead to affecting the lives of people...again, you are in control.
One cannot despise others because of one´s own lack of understanding about the matter, yet that
is exactly what happens.
I.e. wrong target, wasted energy.

Q:
13, if the divinity is passed down through your blood, what type of blood/rh do
you and yours possess? Are you part of the Templars or involved with The Vatican?
A:
Divinity can choose to pass it´s power "down" however it wishes to.
But the blood/genes/physical part is such a small part of how it goes.
In fact it is not a necessity.....sounds like a contradiction?
No, the proof is around you.

Q:
"What you said could happen but it would be done by the ones who control
the lower areas". The ones up higher do it through the daily items
you consume."
I wanna know what you know about this.
A:
I do not know you personally, but I already know I do not eat or drink 90%
of what you do daily (to throw in a percentage). I do not even come close
touching them. It is pretty much everything sold with a few exceptions
here and there.
I must add that there are grades in this and it has a different effect on different people.
To give examples of the 2 extremes of people who have been consuming
them for a long time; some when eating these almost get into a trance,
on others it has no effect whatsoever. Most people are somewhere in between,
it affects them in such a way that they do not notice. They wear out faster, get tired
faster, grow older, think slower, focus on emotional/physical needs,
get health problems that were unheard of 200 years ago at that relatively young age,
i.e. the quality of life declines.
You are not what you eat, but what you eat controls how you feel about yourself,
the way it makes your body respond. Through your own ignorance and laziness,
you hurt yourself. When is the last time you investigated what exactly is in what
you are eating or how your soda got prepared? When looking into it and finding all
these agents and knowing what they are known to cause, ask yourself; would I put
this agent into the mouth of my child and make him/her swallow it?
You are doing that everyday to your child.
Then there are electrical frequencies as you mentioned, it is everywhere and
your house being the most active place. Have you ever cut the electricity off
in your house to see what the difference in vibe is?
You sleep more comfortable for one.

Q:
And, who/ or what do the "elites" answer to?
A:
Everyone answers to the One eventually.

Q:
Ah the elite in the world, the so-called Jet-Set society. Beautiful to a pain, but
always the same, repeatable features among their few types. All other reptilians,
grays, hybrids, human sell-outs, bend a knee to this level.
A:
The jet-set has nothing to do with the bloodlines.....they are your blood.

Q:
Please tell me, what is your favorite occult subject?
A:
Nothing is hidden.

Comment by Insider:
BTN nli,
Answering certain questions or elaborating on certain issues will have the opposite effect of what
needs to be achieved, it will not help you.
Omar, who was near him during death but denied the death occured (gaining time) and one who
was close to Abu Bakr and lead him to Omar´s speech when he returned from Medina....the wife
is more important though.
It does not matter anymore, it has been done.
I do not use email and my presence here will end within days.

Q:
Do you have any connection with the Annunaki that the Sumerians wrote of?
How close to the truth is the book The Illuminatus! Trilogy : The Eye in the Pyramid, The Golden
Apple, Leviathan by Robert Shea and Robert Anton Wilson?
Is Moroni, who is mentioned in the Book of Mormon really an extraterrestrial from the Pleiades and
are such beings still interacting with humanity at present?
A:
They are not here anymore, that was another era.
Their knowledge was not theirs, knowledge is always passed on hence it being present now.
I have not read it/them (?).
If it is getting critical acclaim and being promoted heavily, you know what time it is.
It may contain some truths, but they will be floating in a sea of perversions.
No one is saying that authors are doing it knowingly by the way.
Some do (praise and recognition loving ones, the ones who "sold their soul"), some don´t and the
latter get noticed and promoted because it serves them.
Nothing is easier than to write a best-seller book/hit album/movie script if you know what the
highest promoter´s agenda is.
Mormons are like the other religious people controlled by the ones who controlled their
"prophets/sons of god/angels/saints/etc".
In this realm a Soul which was in a physical body once can not become an Angel, the Soul cannot
transform into that, again in this realm, I repeat that firmly.
Yet it is claimed that Moroni was resurrected as an Angel in this realm.
Mormonism has a core of truth (like the other religions), so reading the texts will not harm you
as long you are cautious.

Q:
What are the foods etc that are used to control us? Is there anything we should and shouldn´t concume
that would help us to see the reality more clearly? What constitutes "temperance"? - is it moderation in
all things or more than that?
A:
See above for the food part.
It is 1 part of the manipulation, it is used in combination with 6 other methods of control in your
daily life.
If you can "delete" a few from your life or have less exposure to them, the effect will reduce
dramatically, but this is not what will make you more self-conscious.
These methods are used to wear you out, lower your quality of life.
They are interlinked.
The methods are:
1. Food and drinks
2. Medication, "Health care" (include vitamins)
3. Electrical waves (including your PC and cellphone, house electr. network, everything chipped)
4. Media, be it TV-radio-newspapers-magazines-internet (the most obvious method, yet the most
enslaving)
5. Music, Sounds (different method than media, used in a different way although most times
through the media)
6. Air pollution
7. Education system (including known literature which is mostly corrupt, be it history,
psychology, metapsychology, "philosophy", art, science, poetry, religion, even fairy tales told to
infants).
Politics takes these methods and bombard you with this every day and make sure they are
maintained.
The rule is:
If promoted/praised/applauded/critically acclaimed/free, be very wary.
Be it food, medicines, latest technological product, "artist", politician, musician, book, show,
beverage, etc.
Some of these allegedly "stand the test of time", that is orchestrated for a reason.
Problem is if too wary, you could miss a few gems that are deliberately passed on in between the
manipulation tools by some.
There are a few other methods (societies/cults/sects, people policing each other, etc) but the above
6 are the core which has been promoted since the French "Revolution".
Temperance: conscious form of restraint based on self-knowing to achieve inner order of the
Soul (which is the unseen you as a whole, the Soul is not a part of you, you are one).
Restraining the emotions/desires/passions/energies does not mean cutting it off (that will harm
you, beware), but channeling them to work for higher causes after taming them gently.
This all does lead to a sober life, yet simpler, filled with gifts because you fully become your own
master, instead of your emotions/desires/passions dictating you how to be.
Simultaneously with this process you will be cleansing yourself and will be ready to be
enlightened by the Universal Mind.
Be like that which you want to connect with as much as possible.

Q:
1. do you have friends who you meet, from outside the bloodline?
2. Do you feel empathy, hate or remorse?
A:
1. Yes, but it is not a wise thing to know many people.
2. The body forces you to experience emphaty, hate, remorse and all other emotions, together
with desires and passions, to confuse you, make you forget yourself, become a dumbed-down
version of yourself.
They have their foundation in this material/physical world.
The more you let them be your masters, the stronger you will chain yourself to this world, which
is contrary to your duty, yet do not loath them, respect.
I channel them to a place where they can be used for something substantial.

Q:
So I am asking HOW does one re-connect with the
divine source? HOW does one rise above this prison?
A:
I reckon my answers today have covered that, if not to you personally ask again, I shall answer
tomorrow.

Q:
I´m not saying each of us IS God, the Ultimate Source, but we are our OWN god due to the fact that we
CREATE our own reality!
What say you Insider?
A:
You partially described free will and the impression it can give you, nothing more or less.
Also the word "love" has many traps, especially the way you used it.

Q:
Re: earth is a prison ... Are you referring to Light trapped in matter? If yes, then I´m beginning to see
all the points you´ve alluded to so far.
A:
Trapped would be the wrong word, it would imply that the Divine had wrong intentions.
Rather, contructed in a way so... or envelopped through...

Comment by Insider:
3nd3r,
Some of the things you described are directly linked to the powers of the Universal Mind.
Like I said, everyone can pick that up.
If you can it means you are at a higher stage than others, however beware of how you use it, it is
not yours, not in this realm.
Also it could be a deceiving beginning of something else which many people experience.
I reckon 2 rituals would initiate you and let you truly see what it is but when the time arrives you
will be guided to them.

Q:
they include the sheik in the desert whom Jesus encountered during his travels and from whom he
received a blessing. Would you happen to know anything about that?
A:
I know some people which Jesus of Nazareth "happened to encounter" were insiders.
The 3 kings being the first right after his birth, which were actually 5 but 2 were present in the
background (the number 3 in the story serves a symbolic purpose like so many things, read
slowly).
The gifts were the symbolistic artifacts (some ancient) which through rituals would initiate him
into his chosen task, for this he needed to travel to certain places.
I have said a few times and I will repeat for the last time, he was not the real Christ, he was made
to appear like one by being guided throughout his life up to his death, and after that, the
documenting of the words (which started long before his death, although rewritten again at a
later time to release).
The 5 kings were present too during his crucifixion and Jesus of Nazareth knew, he would have
responded differently if they were not there.
Jesus of Nazareth was always aware that he was being guided by them, in fact he sometimes
actively searched for them and other insiders.
He gave up on 2 occasions but was guided back.

Q:
The ´Elite´ are making it (oil) look like it is being constantly restored, but are actually storing it. I`d
appreciate your thoughts on this.
Candace Frieze`s writings
A:
The Earth is storing it untill they get used, the ones in power just tap into it.
Although there are some factions (above the puppets) and they are responsible for the
misconception most have which you described together with the statement that the resources are
disappearing.
It is the way I described in the former post.
The writing has some errors.
1. The Annunaki are rulers from a different era, they are gone and replaced by others.
10.000-15.000 years from now (yes, the Earth will be still alive) people will find texts about the
rulers of this era thinking it still applies to theirs.
Those texts have been written for the major part already.
2. If what was written in this text was true, it would mean that at the moment the Earth, "star
friends" and Angels would be now rebelling against the Divine Law of the One.....which is an
abomination to even suggest (I had to be very carefull how to articulate that to not fall into the
trap too).
If the person who wrote it does not restore it, she will achieve the opposite of what she desires
and taking many Souls with her who accept this.
Again accept no human intervention between you and the Divine.
3. The struggle is on a personal level, that means you only can do it, do not wait for "saviours".

Q:
My only question now: Is it really THIS simple? I will not give away what you have knowingly or
inadvertently revealed... I know now that what you say is true: This cannot be told, it must be
discovered, for it has no power if it is revealed to one.
Is this the reason there is so much secrecy? Not so much that people won´t find out because it is an
"just for the elite" but rather, that if they happened to be TOLD it, instead of discovering it they would
never have any chance of escape?
A:
The Truth wants to be known by you, it is It´s main goal, inviting you every moment of your life,
so to be understood by you It is out of Necessity simple and to be noticed relating to Providence It
is "in front of you".
The last question has a yes as an answer.
If you did find It, thank the Divine Law, nothing/nobody else.
The journey just started, long path.
I may be back tomorrow.

9/28/2005
Statement by Insider which is about testing the new proxy:
Test

Q:
1)Is this simply an "upping of the ante" to test if I have the will to continue, or is there in fact a force
that tries to keep people in a sleepwalking state? A force that does NOT want people to "be all they can
be"?
If so, what is the best way to deal with it in your experience.
A:
It is connected to the operations of your physical body which rebels everytime you reach higher
to that realm.
Physical body has the task to let you experience this reality and whenever you search for the
other, it resists.
It is it´s duty so respecting it and gently taming it is the best approach.
Also beings will accompany your thoughts and try to divert them, again it is their duty, show
respect and that will be recognised by them.
Never see them as malicious or evil, they only react to your actions.
There is not a force which does not want you to be what you really are, the opposite is true but
they also have their tasks that they must fulfill.
This is about a material part of you.

Q:
Shall we forget everything we know? Shall we simply let go of our own Ego and accept a different
paradigm altogether? THAT would be VERY difficult to do, as it has sustained us as individuals in this
life. hmmmm......
A:
Recollect everything you used to know, devalue the things which were taught to you since you
forgot the former and return.

Q:
What advice do you have for raising a child on earth?
A:
I have no children nor will I have one.
The first thing a baby does when born is cry.
It does so because the Soul is conscious of what it has been born into and is in a state of disbelief
(you are more conscious of what you are and where you are during/right after birth than you are
now).
The Soul makes the body cry because it is the first time it came to this physical realm (although
this is a very limited number) or because it realises it has returned through reincarnation, after
failing in the former life (which is a vast majority).
The Soul itself is not the one crying (it is unfamiliar with these functions in it´s original state) yet
the impulses it gives makes the body cry.
It cries "without a reason" for days, weeks, months, untill the consciousness has lost it´s power,
be it through natural processes or the influence of parents and these days even medication...
That is when the human is truly born, after they forget who they are, where they are, some forget
faster than others.
This crying is different to the crying that follows after the first few months, one can even hear it.
Comfort them during this crucial period of consciousness and make it known that the One has
gifted them with a chance to return back to the place they belong.
This will have an impact which will influence them for the rest of their lives, subconsciously.
The time of birth was determined (as is the time of passing on), together with the enviroment,
parents, circumstances of birth, health, etc...nothing is a coincidence.
But during puberty they get cut loose from certain strings and they will be fully responsible for
their actions, having the free will to lead the life they want, they determine the quality of it....they
can even determine the way they pass on ("death") by the choices they make but cannot change
the time of passing on.
Just a few areas of their lives will be influenced by the tools that the parents have given them.
Most of the child´s life will be based on free will, which will have very little to nothing to do with
parents, you are only important in the first 5-6 years of the child´s life so that is where you can do
most good.
Use your intuition (not instinct, 2 different matters).
When becoming a parent you are rewarded with qualities (which concern raising children) which
where not available before, listen to them.
Every child is different, respond differently but make them aware there is more than they
experience, that there is a Good Source where everything/everybody flows out of for a reason and
1 day they will return after realising their task here on Earth.
Do not tell this all at once but over years and do not tell more than this.
If done the right way they will start looking for it on their own for the rest of life, which is their
duty.
If you present it to them in an obvious way (like religious people do), you will achieve the
opposite.
Musical instruments were passed on in a different era for a reason and it was not just to listen to
other people playing them.
Education: 1 method of manipulation (I have listed the others).
They will be manipulated, but after puberty they have an important opportunity to undo it.
They will also get opportunities during the rest of their lives.
You cannot stop the manipulation, neither instigate an awakening, that is up to the child and how
it responds to the tools provided to it.....the Mind of the Universe following Divine Law is always
penetrating your child so it is being provided with the chance to awake every moment.
It is up to him/her.

Q:
What do you know of an advanced race who were (and some still are) worshipped as gods?
Do you recognize any lords or deities?
A:
There is only 1 race at the present, not another special race that is above the other, people are
confusing different matters and eras.
The One is worshipped/praised as what you call "god".
The word "god" is a corrupt term, it would imply that you as a human would have control over
the invocated higher being (like before, I had to be carefull how to phrase it to not fall into the
trap myself).
I would say do not use it, but it is your own choice with consequences.
The One has many manifestations/emanations/characteristics which are present in a hierarchy of
beings with different workings but operating together.
All are incorporeal/immaterial although some may operate bodies in a fashion different to ours,
some by lowering their frequency which is actually emanating a form from themselves, may
appear in the material world.
All are praised for they are the One who creates the Good and they direct theirs to the One too.
You people worship some humans as "gods", be it "prohpets", "celebrity", sportsmen,
politicians, autors, etc. which is an abomination.

Q:
What do you eat? Where does it come from?
A:
What nature provides directly.
I have a greenhouse which provides me with certain vegetables/fruit which sprang from
uncontaminated seeds.
I have some healthy animals which provide me with meat, eggs, milk.
I get my water from an underground spring.
For you to know, bread can be bought at small independent backeries, especially the "foreign"
ones who do not use the same ingredients as the "natives", they are not free from them but better
still.
Some of the food/drinks sold in these "foreign"-run shops will be better for you than the ones
sold in supermarkets.
This is not how the rest of my family lives, they have "servants" which provide them with their
needs with the products from their own properties/factories/farms/etc.

Q:
Insider, what can you tell me about Nikola Tesla?
Do you think he completed/failed his ´mission´ here on Earth?
A:
All knowledge is passed on, Tesla´s was too to him, they are not his original ideas.
2 insiders passed on to him the knowledge, knowing Tesla would use it to advance the plan
(which was alive then) to gain control over the energy resources from certain bloodlines by
dimishing their value with "new" technology.
Tesla made it public to the wrong people and ended the whole thing.
Clever individual, not so clever human.
Insiders from the minority must be vigilant, because of these kind of events.

Q:
Are ther any wholesale events on the horizon that will translate into a quantum leap in mass
consciousness and/or redefine life and the way it is lived?
A:
No, not like that.
As mentioned a few times it is on a personal level, meaning you getting selfconscious yourself
through the tools available to you, I have described some as far as I am allowed to.
There may be an event which would alter the way civilisation is perceived now (it happened
before many times) but that will have nothing to do with what you mentioned.
Your duty towards the One and yourself still stays the same, no matter what happens.
Do not waste energy waiting for events, being generic and inanimate, your stay will only be
extended.
I might add this which may sound contrary to what I said but read carefully:
When masses are made to believe something negative, they may create what they did not want,
which is how for instance the "NWO" like you people name it, works.
You are believing it is taking shape, so it will take shape and theorists are major players in
helping this taking shape by bombarding you with "facts" that it is taking shape.
Claiming you are giving in power everyday, and they control you more...while in reality you are
in full control.
So the people who are "waking up" to it are the ones who are creating it.
Visualization also works that way around.
But I repeat, even if these things would happen your duty towards the One and yourself still stays
the same.

Q:
Have the husband/wife relationships of the "higher beings" been compromised? Have those created to
be together by the One parted ways because they reject their duties?
If so, on which side of this rift do you reside?
Is your God the Self Existent One?
A:
Again their is confusion about Higher Beings and the Souls in bodies be it bloodline or not.
Higher Beings and Souls are different entities.
Higher Beings do not enter bodies in this era (which lasted longer than you think), they are
incorporeal, do not experience this world like we do.
Souls are corporeal, we are in this material/physical plane and experience it´s low frequencies as
reality, although we may float above it and experience the higher realm too.
I should talk about this briefly; you are not in the body but encompass/envelop it while being
present in another invisible body which consists of similar elements to the Soul (which is you) yet
this invisible body is entangled with the physical plane (this is very important for you to
understand) and connects with the visible body through energies transmitted by the invisible
body to the brains, heart and areas in the spine, hence we (as Souls) may control the body and it´s
functions, making us experience this realm.
Souls are dual, meaning you are also somewhere else, waiting to be united in another realm.
Some bloodlines refuse their duties just like non-bloodlines do, suffering the consequences
connected to it.
Many bloodlines do not know either.
The "rift" is not were you think it is, it is on a personal level, meaning me and you too.
I am from a minority within the faction which is getting smaller.
I explained why the word "god" is not used for it´s traps in the meaning.
The One is Self-Existent, Pure, Good and indeed the One who creates the Good.

Q:
Insider. Are you saying here that the "old" ways were based on truth and were correct? should we seek
the old ways and follow them?
Is being in harmony with the "Mother" something we should seek?
Is the Devine One more interested in our hearts or our minds? which is stronger?
Were the teachings of Jesus regarding love a message that we should pay attention to?
Are we stronger than you as a collective?
Are we imprisoned here because of our "sinful" nature or because of our lack of understanding.
A:
-The first appearences of knowledge are closer to the Truth than the latter ones.
Think of the ripple created in a pond when throwing something in it, the further the waves get
from the core, the weaker they are, finally stopping.
4000 years ago is relatively young in this era.
Wrong translations, wrong interpretations/additions, deletions will mislead you.
Therefore search for the Mind of the Universe which will enable you to pick out the truths and
later on directly pass it through.
-Being in Harmony with everything the Divine Law is providing us with which were designed to
realise our return, without interpreting it in human terms.
-The Divine One IS, there is no "interested", "wanting", etc. although It´s
emanations/manifestations/characteristics may act according to the One.
We do not have a Mind, we may interact with the Mind which may allow us to be become one
with It.
To have something is owning it, owning means mastering it or having it under your control at the
least....we do not master the Mind, neither do we control It.
Most confuse using intelligence with having a Mind while using the intelligence is merely an
operation granted to us by the Mind.
A Soul does have different essences, it consists out of certain "parts-covers" although it is 1
being.
One of them could be called the Heart, that which connects to the spring of Life which keeps us
alive, provided by the One through It´s emanations.
All essences are as important.
-Read this slowly:
Love, it is not to be understood in human terms, that is the corrupt version.
The teachings of the real Christ are not the teachings of Jesus of Nazareth although the latter
adopted many from the former (I remember I would not mention it again but this context needs
it).
The Christ has a different name but I will use this term because that is what people are familiar
with.
The message was there since the real Christ revealed Itself in another era than ours.
Jesus of Nazareth was part of our era.
There is a difference in the way it is being spread in Christianity and it is corrupt.
Without the appearence of the real Christ on Earth we would not know how to return for the
Divine Law which through the Universal Mind allows us to ascend, was revealed by the real
Christ.
Where we are, what, who, how, why, when, all revealed by It in accordance to the Will of the
Good One and the real Christ should get all the praise, it is crucial.
Not that It needs your praise, Higher Beings don´t need us for anything in our present form, but
it is a way to let it be known that you are conscious about It.
You need the recognition that It grants you.
-Divinity can make 1 human be stronger in every way than all humans combined.
-What I am allowed to tell is that you are still here because of your lack of understanding.
Do not think in "us" but "I".
The "us" will come later in another realm.

Q:
If the "Christ" came in another era, why did he fail his mission?
A:
Be careful with what you say, you are harming yourself.
The real Christ did It´s duty fully and succesfully, now it is your turn.
If you fail do not blame The Divine.
Divinity is blameless in Earthly matters.
When you get sunburned, do you blame the Sun which maintains life on Earth and beyond or do
you blame yourself for laying hours doing nothing on the beach without protection?

Statement by Insider:
This will be my last post, it is done.
This was according to the Divine Law which is above my family or anyone on Earth and beyond.
The minority passes it on when ordered by the Higher Beings, understand this.
There are 2 undesired movements which were known to happen to me.
I would have stayed longer, although most areas have been covered.
I answered as much as I was allowed to in the simplest manner I could.
I had to write fast for a reason.
If you choose to:
Thank everyday the Good One where everything has it´s beginning for Being, for It´s Divine Law
providing you with a chance to return to your original state, the realm you truly belong to, for It
´s power of Necessity applying the justified corrections that you experience everyday.
Praise the Higher Beings who operate according to the One´s Divine Law, which are
manifestations/emanations of the One, for providing the means of Life in all areas, sustaining
them and providing these means for your benefit, guiding you to the release and more.
When addressing Divinity (read again) be careful to articulate well, do not demand, tell, beg,
order, suggest, ask.....which are abhorrences, just state and do your duty.
Understand the questions I raised by answering you, I said more than you read, pass it on.
Return.
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Reprint for mere bookmarking purposes.


An observation regarding his spelling errors. Asks an astute observer (page 16/17 in the script):


Q:
"And why do you misspell simple words such as 'malicious' ? I find that very intersting"

A:
"English is not my native language"



Given the many irrelevant questions he did not answer, he seems to feel the need to maintain the myth of his being an extremely educated person (as a bloodline-member would expeted to be).

Note, however, that the kind of misspelling he keeps repeating is

untypical of non-natives of the English language

and

highly typical of English native speakers.

For instance writing

"to" when it should be "too"

"their" when it should be "there"

and so on. This is indicative of a person who has primarily internalized English acustically and not visually and accompanied by reading - as non-natives would naturally study it.

For non-natives, these words stick out as very different from each other because they learn them accompanied with meaning and their scriptural appearance in conjunction with their phonetic value, and not years and years later to it.

I myself - as non-native to English - felt I could immediately pick out that the author must indeed be a native speaker of English - in contradiction to what he says.

Moreover, regardless of whether he is native to English or not, his spelling errors would hardly be so habitually committed by one as highly trained as a bloodline-member would be.

______________

Moreover, it seems his critique of religion, as much as it also says some truths, is a demonstration of a very superficial and uneducated approach to religion. He is unaware, for instance, that being christian does not imply the veneration of a human (even if you worship Jesus), nor does it even require viewing the historical person of Jesus as the object of veneration.

Glorious counter-example:

I highly recommend these three books by the contemporary catholic mystic Bernadette Roberts:

[link to www.amazon.com]

[link to www.amazon.com]

[link to www.amazon.com]

This stuff is even better than Meister Eckhart (and that means a lot).

Roberts openly admits that she was always intimately devoted to the Christ while having not too much to do with Jesus, and this is nothing revolutionary even within catholicism.

So why does "Insider" not know such basics and suggests a type of christianity exclusively prevalent in fundamentalist protestant USA ?

Then he goes on to suggest that the real Christ was another person in history, not Jesus, thus demonstrating his ignorance that "Christ" is not even considered a historical person in orthodox christianity, but a time transcending principle. No mystical christian with any profundity would assume that "Christ" would still mean "Jesus" other that the latter being a endearing reminder for the otherwise unimaginable "Christ".

Regarding a more esoteric, gnostic interpretation of what the "Christos" means regarding each of us, namely the connection to the light of our higher being beyond the psyche and the web of interconnection in light's regions,

and regarding a more detailed version of whatever truth "Insider" was speaking esoterically, I would like to recommend a pretty unknown master of the modern gnosis Ralph DeBit "Vitvan" who died in 1964, I believe:

[link to www.sno.org]

Sources such as this one and a few others would, BTW, be completely sufficient to create an air of superior knowledge if one were to play an impostor in a thread like this one and would expect no readers with much of an education or knowledge.

Note also that "Insider" simply assumes that to gain recognition must be any celebrity's motivation to be one, such as the Dalai Lama or Mahatma Gandhi. I find that to be a highly idiotic assumption, and one that often inverts and confuses cause and effect,

regardless of all the critical remarks that must be made regarding these two persons (and I particularly know a thing or two about the Tibetan scence after having interacted with high lamas for years), but I certainly do not believe that gaining recognition for himself is the Dalai Lama's motivation at all.

____________

Generally I do not understand why "Insider" suggests that the core truth of religions is so deeply buried in them among all the garbage that we can hardly find it.

I think a decade or two of comparative study, yoga and meditation will bring anyone with any intelligence left quickly to the core of all that without fail.

It is true, however, that the childlike intuition of the simplicity of it will be regularly obscured by dogmatic religions rather than revealed. And that only through profound contemplative, practical and logical (rather than literalistic, concept-attached) study will one usually find one's way back out of dogma to that childlike clarity of what it's all about -

but then in a more humorous and mature way. Religions can then be humorously and lovingly appreciated and criticized rather than seen as deliberate deception the way "Insider" puts it.

As the example of Bernadette Robert shows, this, however, can even be achieved by never being exposed to anything else than one religion (catholicism in her case), by simply practicing its profound aspect rather than attaching to its superficial dogma.

Had "Insider" pointed out this simple truth, he would have been more convincing to me, but he probably wouldn't have caught anyone's attention since it is almost a truism.

___________

So folks: relax and forget about any riddles regarding the truth or supposed historical frauds or supposed secrets of bloodlines or supposed wrongness of religion. It is out in the open, with or without religion.

Read Bernadette Roberts or Meister Eckhart or Eckhart Tolle or Ramana Maharshi or Ajahn Chah and the Sermon on the Mount and the Gospel of Thomas or Douglas Harding ... it almost doesn't matter.

But (and here I concur with Insider) practice it yourself.

And regard Insiders and Outsiders humorously and with kindness.



So folks: relax and forget about any riddles regarding the truth or supposed historical frauds or supposed secrets of bloodlines or supposed wrongness of religion. It is out in the open, with or without religion.

Read Bernadette Roberts or Meister Eckhart or Eckhart Tolle or Ramana Maharshi or Ajahn Chah and the Sermon on the Mount and the Gospel of Thomas or Douglas Harding ... it almost doesn't matter.


For instance, consider the biography depicted in this video

Thread: REINHARDT ...post your questions for him here. (Page 194)

If someone like "Insider" denigrates this man as a fake or considers his message as diluted or mixed with garbage in any way or as being informed and installed by bloodlines

then he can hardly be taken seriously.

If someone like "Insider" concedes that this man is an example of what "Insider" concedes possible: the Divine expressing itself in a human being far beyond the grasps of "bloodline" families, then why waste time with the cryptic allusions by people from the bloodlines ?

In either case, it should be clear how to decide wisely.
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When you look in the mirror, what do you see?
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Logos troll still hasnt left this school he was talking about, keeps coming back to spam with new age pies. Failure at work.
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2) ÷òî íàõîäèòüñÿ âíóòðè çåìëè?
3) ãäå àòëàíòèäà?
4) ÷òî åñòü ñâîáîäà äëÿ Âàñ?
5) ÷òî Âû ñêàæèòå î äåòÿõ "Èíäèãî"?
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and I will answer them in short.

Why?
Because I can.
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hello , can i ask you something?
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and I will answer them in short.

Why?
Because I can.
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hello i hope u can answer my question

how is this planet where we live.. what's the truth we should know.

is there something we can do to protect ourselves?
can't we have an opportunity to know the truth.

why do u know so much about everything? how do u do it?

thank you and have a good day
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DO YOU KNOW WHO I AM?
YOU SHOULD KNOW ABOUT ME.
I KNOW YOUR LIES.
TELL YOUR MASTER TO SPEAK WITH ME, TOMORROW.
YOU KNOW I AM NOT PATIENT.
DO NOT BE SCARED, JUST DO WHAT I SAY.
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<<God created ONE SON, and we are ALL a part of the One Son of God, and That IS THE CHRIST.

Jesus realized fully his Christ Mind, and that is how he has and had Knowedge DIRECTLY from God.

And we are ALL supposed to do the SAME THING sooner or later.>>


Sounds pretty good.

This notion has struck me: If life is a party in our living room, and Jesus came knocking on our front door, what would we do? Seriously.

--Would we tell him to come back later when we´re finished partying?

--Would we turn down the music and be very very quiet hoping He´ll leave?

--Or would we INVITE HIM IN AND LISTEN TO HIM knowing THAT would be the end of the party? :)

Tough to give up the toys and the glitter.
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Jesus was more of a rebel. He would probably ask to drink wine and break bread with you. In other words, the party would just be getting started.
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NEVER LEARN, CAN NOT STOP WRITING THEM STUPIDS INSPIRED OTHERS HAVE READ OR ELSEWHERE?.
THOSE WHO HAVE NOTHING NEW TO SAY SHOULD SHUT UP. MOST OF US READ, WE DO NOT WATCH AND HEAR THE CNN TO KNOW HOW IS THE WORLD, WE FIND IT.
DO NOT WRITE MORE NONSENSE, AND PERHAPS LEARN SOMETHING.
THE WORLD NEEDS PEOPLE TO USE THE BRAIN NOW MORE THAN EVER, NOT WANT TO APPEAR CHARLATANS.
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Friend you are wrong, your system already goes wrong you have planned, there were other sily.I your weakness is something that you do not see that under your feet! "Is an axiom
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<<God created ONE SON, and we are ALL a part of the One Son of God, and That IS THE CHRIST.

Jesus realized fully his Christ Mind, and that is how he has and had Knowedge DIRECTLY from God.

And we are ALL supposed to do the SAME THING sooner or later.>>


Sounds pretty good.

This notion has struck me: If life is a party in our living room, and Jesus came knocking on our front door, what would we do? Seriously.

--Would we tell him to come back later when we´re finished partying?

--Would we turn down the music and be very very quiet hoping He´ll leave?

--Or would we INVITE HIM IN AND LISTEN TO HIM knowing THAT would be the end of the party? :)

Tough to give up the toys and the glitter.
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mmm why ther is no option .. well we invite Him to our party ¿? or you thing He doesn`t like party ?
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Please, answer =)

Who is Shri Matadzhi? Is she from yours family ?

Often what you say - is about Self-realisation , about what talk Budha and others in different forms...

They was only humans , who destroyed barriers in theirs mind , or they was messengers from other places?
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How do we know he is telling the truth about any of this............. He or She could be saying this just too get your focus off of the real problem such as yourself or what you believe in. It simply comes down too the fact that all nations/peoples have there rise and fall through out history....... Face it shit happens
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The thread is dead Jim.
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[link to home.comcast.net]

he must be the same....

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