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... If anyone anywhere on this planet, at any age, at any time, can become one of God's children, why are the Jews God's chosen?

 
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... If anyone anywhere on this planet, at any age, at any time, can become one of God's children, why are the Jews God's chosen?
Doesn't make sense to me.
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Re: ... If anyone anywhere on this planet, at any age, at any time, can become one of God's children, why are the Jews God's chosen?
do you kow where that saying comes from?


gods chosen?



i learned this at my hebrew school as a child.


we were chosen.


chosen to be an example.


chosen to be slaves.

chosen to live a life of hardship for thousands of years.

chosen by "elohim" to leave the pagan kingdom of egypt


chosen to receive the "order" of god and civility by higher beings


chosen to be the forefathers of christ



only racists have turned this "chosen" crap to mean we jews think we are special.
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Re: ... If anyone anywhere on this planet, at any age, at any time, can become one of God's children, why are the Jews God's chosen?
do you kow where that saying comes from?


gods chosen?



i learned this at my hebrew school as a child.


we were chosen.


chosen to be an example.


chosen to be slaves.

chosen to live a life of hardship for thousands of years.

chosen by "elohim" to leave the pagan kingdom of egypt


chosen to receive the "order" of god and civility by higher beings


chosen to be the forefathers of christ



only racists have turned this "chosen" crap to mean we jews think we are special.
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Incredibly thought provoking.
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Re: ... If anyone anywhere on this planet, at any age, at any time, can become one of God's children, why are the Jews God's chosen?
because of abraham.
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Re: ... If anyone anywhere on this planet, at any age, at any time, can become one of God's children, why are the Jews God's chosen?
why do you beat your wife?
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Re: ... If anyone anywhere on this planet, at any age, at any time, can become one of God's children, why are the Jews God's chosen?
zionist lies, and manipulation of the Bible
''All that we are is the result of what we have thought. If a man speaks or acts with an evil thought, pain follows him. If a man speaks or acts with a pure thought, happiness follows him, like a shadow that never leaves him.''
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Re: ... If anyone anywhere on this planet, at any age, at any time, can become one of God's children, why are the Jews God's chosen?
Anyone could be a jew..... Judaism was the (old) covenant. He gave this covenant to the jewish ethnic group. However anyone could join the judaic "religion".
It would be like saying, if everyone can be saved, why are christians only going to be saved? Because anyone can become a christian.

Think of it this way. There is this field, on this field are many farms, some smaller or larger then others. Each farmer has a way of planting their seeds, however none of them seem to be producing crop. So God goes to a specific farm and says "you are my chosen farm, I will teach you how to plant and grow crops, you will a be a light in this world, through you all will be able to know how to farm".

So this farmer is taught how to farm, and as he farmed he was used as an example. God chose a people and made them examples so that EVERYONE could follow.
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Re: ... If anyone anywhere on this planet, at any age, at any time, can become one of God's children, why are the Jews God's chosen?
do you kow where that saying comes from?


gods chosen?



i learned this at my hebrew school as a child.


we were chosen.


chosen to be an example.


chosen to be slaves.

chosen to live a life of hardship for thousands of years.

chosen by "elohim" to leave the pagan kingdom of egypt


chosen to receive the "order" of god and civility by higher beings


chosen to be the forefathers of christ



only racists have turned this "chosen" crap to mean we jews think we are special.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1513712


Incredibly thought provoking.
 Quoting: FubarMan


It's interesting that a movement with such origins has evolved into what it is today.
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Re: ... If anyone anywhere on this planet, at any age, at any time, can become one of God's children, why are the Jews God's chosen?
do you kow where that saying comes from?


gods chosen?



i learned this at my hebrew school as a child.


we were chosen.



chosen to be the forefathers of christ



only racists have turned this "chosen" crap to mean we jews think we are special.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1513712


Too funny, no hebrew would take credit for christ, at least not the prior one. Their meshiack comes only for their benefit, not the worlds, so their interpretation of his end in the talmud is pretty unflattering.
You have left out the part about being chosen to rule the earth for the benefit of your own kind. The example of the OT and history of absence of any outwardly tolerable behaviour speak authoritatively to the issue better than any ones opinion. Not one single example of honest, voluntary cooperation in the entire book or history.
You are an anomaly, every hebrew I know is firmly convinced that they are indeed superior beings and that all else are subhuman animals fit only for service to them, schiksas, scheygetzes and all manner of shabbas ghoys ans schmageggies, to allow their 'faith' to prosper. Just like the muzz, they cannot properly function without some enslaved or deceived infidel doing all the dirty work they claim their god tells them not to do themselves.
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Re: ... If anyone anywhere on this planet, at any age, at any time, can become one of God's children, why are the Jews God's chosen?
Anyone could be a jew..... Judaism was the (old) covenant. He gave this covenant to the jewish ethnic group. However anyone could join the judaic "religion".
It would be like saying, if everyone can be saved, why are christians only going to be saved? Because anyone can become a christian.

Think of it this way. There is this field, on this field are many farms, some smaller or larger then others. Each farmer has a way of planting their seeds, however none of them seem to be producing crop. So God goes to a specific farm and says "you are my chosen farm, I will teach you how to plant and grow crops, you will a be a light in this world, through you all will be able to know how to farm".

So this farmer is taught how to farm, and as he farmed he was used as an example. God chose a people and made them examples so that EVERYONE could follow.
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Anyone can be a jew? Depends on the definition, which is shifty and variable depending on what the need at hand is.
Conversion.
Maybe, if they are allowed to convert, denounce their prior faith, and have what passes for a good reason. They need some certification of the process from a rabbi, or it doesnt matter, and you dont get your paperwork. It is a quasi legal process, joining this theocracy, not one of voluntary or emotional affiliation.
Of course, if the original reason passes due to divorce or change of heart, they will be shunned as an outsider by the community, as they were never really accepted into the club to begin with.
This is the common outcome if you ask around. You can try to move away and start over elsewhere, but you likely will be found out.
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Re: ... If anyone anywhere on this planet, at any age, at any time, can become one of God's children, why are the Jews God's chosen?
If you hve left Egypt (this old world behind)

then you are a true jew at heart.
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Re: ... If anyone anywhere on this planet, at any age, at any time, can become one of God's children, why are the Jews God's chosen?
'The Chosen' nonsense is just another group of people propagating self-serving propaganda and attributing it to God to give it unquestionable authority "that must be obeyed". Its rubbish. The only specialness they have is that which YOU give them by believing this tripe.
Their self-declared exclusiveness is their ticket to power over everyone-IF they play the game. That is why Pharisees killed Christ, because his doctrines of equality and "the Kingdom open to ALL" threatened their power.
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Re: ... If anyone anywhere on this planet, at any age, at any time, can become one of God's children, why are the Jews God's chosen?
"They" were chosen to bring forth the messiah and they did, end of story. "They" , then, denied Him, beginning of story. Leave it at that and c oncentrate upon all the references that God shares with us tBenjamin and Judah with Levi b eing the preist line) twelve tribes and once transformed there will be no bloodlines or gender involved as it will all have been concluded.
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Re: ... If anyone anywhere on this planet, at any age, at any time, can become one of God's children, why are the Jews God's chosen?
'The Chosen' nonsense is just another group of people propagating self-serving propaganda and attributing it to God to give it unquestionable authority "that must be obeyed". Its rubbish. The only specialness they have is that which YOU give them by believing this tripe.
Their self-declared exclusiveness is their ticket to power over everyone-IF they play the game. That is why Pharisees killed Christ, because his doctrines of equality and "the Kingdom open to ALL" threatened their power.
 Quoting: hicksa


Agreed. If I recall, Jews wanted to kill Paul for even suggesting that "gentiles" were also welcome to salvation in Christ.

Judaism is essentially stillborn christianity.
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Re: ... If anyone anywhere on this planet, at any age, at any time, can become one of God's children, why are the Jews God's chosen?
The house of Israel and the house of Judah split after the reign of Solomon, Israel are the white european and russian people who went north over the caucusus. The house of Judah is antichrist by definition and Israel is mystery babylon.

Israel will not be reformed until Jesus returns and gathers up ALL Israel and unites the remnant of Judah living in Europe and America with Israel (The rest of the Europeans).
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Re: ... If anyone anywhere on this planet, at any age, at any time, can become one of God's children, why are the Jews God's chosen?
they ain't.
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Re: ... If anyone anywhere on this planet, at any age, at any time, can become one of God's children, why are the Jews God's chosen?
The house of Israel and the house of Judah split after the reign of Solomon, Israel are the white european and russian people who went north over the caucusus. The house of Judah is antichrist by definition and Israel is mystery babylon.

Israel will not be reformed until Jesus returns and gathers up ALL Israel and unites the remnant of Judah living in Europe and America with Israel (The rest of the Europeans).
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meds
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Re: ... If anyone anywhere on this planet, at any age, at any time, can become one of God's children, why are the Jews God's chosen?
Doesn't make sense to me.
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Quite a few Angels in heaven thought they were special too. 1/3rd of them even.

They started a war and were cast out.



THEY are US.


And now on Earth the same old patterns are emerging again, the desire to rule over one another.

Because we are ALL of the same desire, we have a world such as this. One where people aren't seen as equals, but merely as tools or objects of desire and lust. One where people are used and abused, and controlled and ruled.

And amongst us lot, some of us like to think that we are chosen and are special.

Just look at how many claim to be prophets, or witnesses on here, desiring to be seen as being better than others.

And on TV with all these reality shows, where people want to become famous because they desire to be worshiped by other people, because of the sense of power it brings. A world where people join the police or military and then go on to abuse the very people they're supposed to be protecting. Where so-called celebrities are worshiped by the masses, and that worship, and their desire, turns their expression into a haunty one. They can't even stand to work, shop, date and eat around the regular people. Divas. Look at the self indulgence of faces book, where most people think and say things with the sole purpose of being validated by others, others who they rarely see in person. Some even go on to add hundreds of friends, assuming that having hundreds them give them self worth.

Look around, while you are busty looking for a sign from God, do you not see the sign of the times. The sign of Jonah? Are we not in the belly of the beast? It's hard to see things when you're within it. Why do you think Jesus referred to this world as the world of the dead, and that he came down from the world of the living. Thus telling people to seek the kingdom of the Father.



Like EVERYONE else on this EARTH, all think they are CHOSEN, or special.

We ALL thought we were JEWS in heaven. The Irony is clear to see now.


Wake up.
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Re: ... If anyone anywhere on this planet, at any age, at any time, can become one of God's children, why are the Jews God's chosen?
jewish people were chosen because god went to all the other tribes told them the rules of the torah they all said " no we like doing this and that" once god went to the jewish people they said "nase ve nishma" which means we will do and listen

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