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Hurricane Irene Turns Out To Be A Real Dud In New York City! More Media Hype & Sensationalism Bullshit!

 
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Op, I am certain that the millions of people without power and those who suffered tornado and flooding damage would beg to differ with you. Simply because Irene’s winds will not be extreme does not mean that the damage will not be extreme and crippling.

Tornado Damages Homes in Delaware
[link to www.nbcphiladelphia.com]

2 million Virginians without power; surge prompts flooding concerns
[link to www2.timesdispatch.com]
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haarp operator says to op

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Yeah nobody cared about them...and nobody cares about you. Fema...this is good practice for everyone. Bottom line is that money will be stolen for emergency preparations and sent overseas. Taking money from the poor on complete bs. Sure some folks have cause to worry in some areas i am not disputing that. But this is a stealing event. Every emergency money is stolen. There is no accountability. Everybody jumps on the bandwagon. 10:30 long island a little breeze not much rain. Sure it will come but i wonder if my garbage can will get blown down the street.
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Kudos to SilverPatriot - I'm 12 hours with no power, wind gusts up to 70 mph and fortunate to have our generator to keep our fridge, lamp and TV going, I live in the woods in VA and hear the trees snapping all around with one on the house. People have lost their lives, one little boy 11 years old in his home was killed by a tree that caved into his home. This is a big, bad, long and stressful storm and flooding will ruin many homes and businesses. Your turn will come dear friend.
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Yes some people do have cause to worry. But in NY?...i dont think so. I am only speaking from my side down south they always get smacked hard by storms. Hope everyone stays safe.
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Yes some people do have cause to worry. But in NY?...i dont think so. I am only speaking from my side down south they always get smacked hard by storms. Hope everyone stays safe.
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New York also suffers from the storms and the truth be told we are geared to snow storms which is a far cry from heavy rains and even modest winds. For the moment, forgetting NYC’s antiquated sewage systems and multiple Hudson River tributary waterways creating greater flooding let us look at the rest of the state.

Once the ground becomes saturated with water the ground becomes soft and even modest winds knock down power cables and buildings and homes become flooded. Many homes with trees around the home end up with branches or trees uprooting and crashing into the homes causing damage and sometimes injury and deaths.
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OP, it seems the reports are consistent with weakening and failed leadership in overreacting to computer models. However, those reporting seem like they are still very concerned yet the reports they read on the air give us the sense that it will be a weakened event. Can a hurricane stall over D.C.? Dutchsinse reported earlier today that there were distinctive HAARP signatures on radar in the D.C. area. I believe this storm is under artificial control. Everyone should pay very close attention to what it does. Hurricanes are unpredictable, regardless of computer tracks.
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Yes, I agree that it is very well possible that HAARP could be involved here. As I have always known, when a hurricane weakens in strength, and sustained winds, it's forward speed usually picks up, but this system seems to have almost stalled. They are saying this will be a 24 hour storm system. That's unusual for a hurricane.
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I'm curious, was there this much discussion and preparation prior to Katrina? The news we got on this side side of the world is that no one lifted a finger before, during AND after katrina so it's strange to see all this attention for a less devastating event. Is it because Katrina hit an area of low interest to the American public?
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I think there was a lot more going on there that we the public will never know about. I think it was a test for future events. A dry run sort to speak.
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Op, I am certain that the millions of people without power and those who suffered tornado and flooding damage would beg to differ with you. Simply because Irene’s winds will not be extreme does not mean that the damage will not be extreme and crippling.

Tornado Damages Homes in Delaware
[link to www.nbcphiladelphia.com]

2 million Virginians without power; surge prompts flooding concerns
[link to www2.timesdispatch.com]
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Yes I agree, and did say that Irene was still a dangerous storm. Just not as bad as the powers that be would have everyone believe.
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Very true...trees will come down..but a mayor closing down subway so early before a storm hits? I just felt my first strong breeze come through the window on long island as i am writing this. So who knows...maybe it will be something but somehow i thing it wont be too much of a big deal and pretty much over hyped. Could be wrong...
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Yeah nobody cared about them...and nobody cares about you. Fema...this is good practice for everyone. Bottom line is that money will be stolen for emergency preparations and sent overseas. Taking money from the poor on complete bs. Sure some folks have cause to worry in some areas i am not disputing that. But this is a stealing event. Every emergency money is stolen. There is no accountability. Everybody jumps on the bandwagon. 10:30 long island a little breeze not much rain. Sure it will come but i wonder if my garbage can will get blown down the street.
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Agreed, and it happens all around the country as I said... floods in the midwest. Gulf of Mexico in the southeast. Earthquake and hurricane Irene in the northeast, and others.

My garbage cans have bricks placed inside, lol.
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Kudos to SilverPatriot - I'm 12 hours with no power, wind gusts up to 70 mph and fortunate to have our generator to keep our fridge, lamp and TV going, I live in the woods in VA and hear the trees snapping all around with one on the house. People have lost their lives, one little boy 11 years old in his home was killed by a tree that caved into his home. This is a big, bad, long and stressful storm and flooding will ruin many homes and businesses. Your turn will come dear friend.
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Yes, me and my family have gathered and hunkered down at my home.

But:

Thank God it will not be as bad as all the hype predicted at the start.
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Very true...trees will come down..but a mayor closing down subway so early before a storm hits? I just felt my first strong breeze come through the window on long island as i am writing this. So who knows...maybe it will be something but somehow i thing it wont be too much of a big deal and pretty much over hyped. Could be wrong...
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I agree. Lot's of rain here now in NYC, but very little wind at 11:07pm.

85mph gusts predicted tomorrow along with 8 to 12 inches of rain. This storm is a very slow mover, and will dump massive amounts of water on the city. Massive flooding.
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Yes I agree, and did say that Irene was still a dangerous storm. Just not as bad as the powers that be would have everyone believe.


I hate to sound paranoid but I live in a third world setting and it isn't uncommon here; the talks of martial law, deep level government corruption, human rights violations etc. The scenario you present is very similar to what goes on here. We've had our government "looting" funds allocated for natural disasters as well as relief goods. We also have very little faith in American government because they have stolen a lot of resources from our country under the guise of "financial aid" and "militry partnerships". I can understand your lack of trust.
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I dont think the wind speed is up that high down south at the moment...i was expecting maybe 55 mph in the morning in ny perhaps 60... but dont know how the storm speed at 10 to 13 miles per hour would effect my calculations. i am no scientist thats for sure so its only my guess. maybe someone could shed some light on what is the actual wind speed right now.
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Nothing but fear mongering with this storm. Media on the storm as been an EPIC FAILURE. NYC=EPIC FAILURE for their overreacting.
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Yes I agree, and did say that Irene was still a dangerous storm. Just not as bad as the powers that be would have everyone believe.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1524101


I hate to sound paranoid but I live in a third world setting and it isn't uncommon here; the talks of martial law, deep level government corruption, human rights violations etc. The scenario you present is very similar to what goes on here. We've had our government "looting" funds allocated for natural disasters as well as relief goods. We also have very little faith in American government because they have stolen a lot of resources from our country under the guise of "financial aid" and "militry partnerships". I can understand your lack of trust.


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Anyone with observation skills new that days ago.

thing is, a sense of complacency will be installed amongst the

populace when Irenes' big mean relatives come along in the

next few weeks.
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Yep.

Those of us from Louisiana KNEW this would be a dud, despite media comparisons to the hurricane of 1938. How?

THE COURSE. No way does a 'cane travel up the Florida, Carolina, and Virginia coast and then hit NY as a cat 4 as they had predicted. It would have petered out by then. The 1938 hurricane was NO COMPARISON because it had an anomalous track: After being formed on the western coast of South Africa, it had a straight NW trajectory, making a beeline for NY. It completely bypassed FL/Carolina/VA coastline, and THAT is why it was a cat 4 when it made landfall. This is all pertinent to NATURAL hurricanes so of course has no bearing on artificial manipulation of speed and course, i.e. HAARP.

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I dont think the wind speed is up that high down south at the moment...i was expecting maybe 55 mph in the morning in ny perhaps 60... but dont know how the storm speed at 10 to 13 miles per hour would effect my calculations. i am no scientist thats for sure so its only my guess. maybe someone could shed some light on what is the actual wind speed right now.
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On the eastern side of the storm, add the storms forward speed to the actual gusts, and on the western side subtract the forward speed of the storm from the wind gusts.
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Nothing but fear mongering with this storm. Media on the storm as been an EPIC FAILURE. NYC=EPIC FAILURE for their overreacting.
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Yes, agreed. That's what I'm trying to convey in the posted title!
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Thankyou for that information i appreciate it
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Op, I am certain that the millions of people without power and those who suffered tornado and flooding damage would beg to differ with you. Simply because Irene’s winds will not be extreme does not mean that the damage will not be extreme and crippling.

Tornado Damages Homes in Delaware
[link to www.nbcphiladelphia.com]

2 million Virginians without power; surge prompts flooding concerns
[link to www2.timesdispatch.com]
 Quoting: SilverPatriot


Yes I agree, and did say that Irene was still a dangerous storm. Just not as bad as the powers that be would have everyone believe.
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Predicting weather is an inexact science and if you look back to Hurricane Katrina, the weather reports clearly stated it would be a powerful hurricane yet few listened. When reality struck fingers pointed towards President Bush instead of the governor of Mississippi failure to take New Jersey Governor Chris Christie stance an exclaiming, “Get the hell off the Beach”.
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I think the main issue in NYC will be how far those surges come in and how bad it floods the subway.
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Anyone with observation skills new that days ago.

thing is, a sense of complacency will be installed amongst the

populace when Irenes' big mean relatives come along in the

next few weeks.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1523958




Yep.

Those of us from Louisiana KNEW this would be a dud, despite media comparisons to the hurricane of 1938. How?

THE COURSE. No way does a 'cane travel up the Florida, Carolina, and Virginia coast and then hit NY as a cat 4 as they had predicted. It would have petered out by then. The 1938 hurricane was NO COMPARISON because it had an anomalous track: After being formed on the western coast of South Africa, it had a straight NW trajectory, making a beeline for NY. It completely bypassed FL/Carolina/VA coastline, and THAT is why it was a cat 4 when it made landfall. This is all pertinent to NATURAL hurricanes so of course has no bearing on artificial manipulation of speed and course, i.e. HAARP.

Nobody thinks; they just repeat the stupid memes cranked out by the "experts" on TV.
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The 1938 storm you're talking about was called "The Long Island Express." A novice weatherman warned his superiors that it was coming, but was completely ignored at a very deadly price. 600 dead because not a soul knew it was even coming. They were blind sided by it.
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Op, I am certain that the millions of people without power and those who suffered tornado and flooding damage would beg to differ with you. Simply because Irene’s winds will not be extreme does not mean that the damage will not be extreme and crippling.

Tornado Damages Homes in Delaware
[link to www.nbcphiladelphia.com]

2 million Virginians without power; surge prompts flooding concerns
[link to www2.timesdispatch.com]
 Quoting: SilverPatriot


Yes I agree, and did say that Irene was still a dangerous storm. Just not as bad as the powers that be would have everyone believe.
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Predicting weather is an inexact science and if you look back to Hurricane Katrina, the weather reports clearly stated it would be a powerful hurricane yet few listened. When reality struck fingers pointed towards President Bush instead of the governor of Mississippi failure to take New Jersey Governor Chris Christie stance an exclaiming, “Get the hell off the Beach”.
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Here in Staten Island where I live, mayor Bloomberg oredered mandatory evacuations on all flood zones. That's why everyone is hunkered down at my home. Better to be safe than sorry!
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well it sure does feel nice and balmy here on long island within the past 1/2 hour. This media panic will end up being nothing much. I feel like it will be a decent blast to make most people feel like they are alive for once. Not much in the way of run for the hills evacuate the big one has come. Still feel like his is an over hyped bunch of bs for us. People down south i understand its more serious. but by the morning...i am expecting just a pretty good storm. nothing like i remember in the past. could be wrong.
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I think the main issue in NYC will be how far those surges come in and how bad it floods the subway.
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Flooding will be massive here, but wind damage will not be as bad as predicted. After all, they said Irene would possibly be a cat 3 when it hit NYC. It was a cat 1.

I told everyone in my family that even before they started making all those claims, that it would be a cat 1 by the time it got here. Of course that was only if it followed the track they said it would follow... which it did. My family thought I was nuts and retarded, but I was correct.
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well it sure does feel nice and balmy here on long island within the past 1/2 hour. This media panic will end up being nothing much. I feel like it will be a decent blast to make most people feel like they are alive for once. Not much in the way of run for the hills evacuate the big one has come. Still feel like his is an over hyped bunch of bs for us. People down south i understand its more serious. but by the morning...i am expecting just a pretty good storm. nothing like i remember in the past. could be wrong.
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Lot's of water with this one. I can tell you. I'm sitting here while typing, and the rain is really coming down in sheets outside. Very loud, and very hard with no let-up, and seems to be no end in sight.

This will go on for at least another 20 hours, and my basement will be one big mess for sure!
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if it was at 80 mph at 11 pm...i thimk it should be down to like 73 now and heading to under 60 by the time it hits NY at best. Am i totally wrong about this?...I am thinking it would be closer to 50 sustained winds anyway nevermind gusts at the max.
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I think the main issue in NYC will be how far those surges come in and how bad it floods the subway.
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Flooding will be massive here, but wind damage will not be as bad as predicted. After all, they said Irene would possibly be a cat 3 when it hit NYC. It was a cat 1.

I told everyone in my family that even before they started making all those claims, that it would be a cat 1 by the time it got here. Of course that was only if it followed the track they said it would follow... which it did. My family thought I was nuts and retarded, but I was correct.
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It hasn't happened in NYC yet, what do you mean you WERE correct?

What an ego.

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