AMERICAN IS A ????? CONSTITUTIONAL REPUBLIC

WAS a constitutional republic

Now a fascist/corporatist welfare state

The recent earthquake was the founding fathers doing cartwheels in their graves

do you...


it doesn't matter.


carry on.

yep second that... i wonder where the mob ruled country will lead us next...

RON PAUL - A CALL TO THE AMERICAN PEOPLE - THE REVOLUTION IS NOW

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if they had to recite the Pledge of Allegiance they'd know the founders'intent and start to question things...

They love Democracy. They crave it. Beg for it. But then again, the Average American reads one book per year.

My Work Here Is Done .......





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Democracy Is .......

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Not since the civil war and probably not since before then. We have long been a british colony still. Its been proven.

Fema camps?

Quoting one of many assholes:

"It depends on what the meaning of the word "is" is."


There is a Republic, but you, is not in it.


No U.S. Citizen is living in the Republic.Period. All U.S. Citizens, republican and democrat alike are corporate persons subject to step in the bullshit excreted by the asses and elephants of democracy.


Living in the American Republic short checklist:
Note: If you yes to any of the following your are not living in the Republic.

Are you Registered and do you "vote" in the current "system"?
Do you "hold" a mortgage?
Do you live "in" a ZIP CODE"
Do you "own" any type of corporation?
Do you hold an "office"
Are you employed by your government?
Do you exercise bankruptcy?
Do you "pay taxes" to the I.R.S?
Do you pay into or accept any state or federal benefits? (Social Security, Medicare, welfare, food stamps, grants, loans, etc.)
Are you a "Resident" inside a Federal zone?
Do you IDentify yourself as a "U.S Citizen"?
Do you "bank" with an FDIC bank?


You cannot be in the Republic AND in the Democracy at the same time.
AMERICA has a republican form of government that is barely used at all. There are a handful of state nationals out there that have returned to the Republic.
The United States of America Corp.(A democracy), however, is where most everyone's current "allegiance" lies. It is a municipal corporation: This is the form of government that you, as a so-called "U.S. Citizen" are subject to:


Municipal Corporation.
A municipal corporation is a body politic and corporate created to administer the internal concerns of the district embraced with its corporate limits, in matter peculiar to such place and not common to the state at large. .....

A municipal corporation has a dual character, the one public and the other private, and exercises correspondingly twofold functions and duties-- one class consisting of those acts performed by it in exercise of delegated sovereign powers for benefit of people generally, as arm of state, enforcing general laws made in pursuance of general policy of the state, and the other consisting of acts done in exercise of power of the municipal corporation for its own benefit, or for benefit of its citizens alone, or citizens of the municipal corporations and its immediate locality. -Black's Law Sixth

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For some reason, rightwingers love to say this.

Hogwash!

America is a representative DEMOCRACY.
If it wasn't a DEMOCRACY I wouldn't be voting, right?
We're not a direct DEMOCRACY but we are a DEMOCRACY, thank god (and no thanks to rightwingers).

We're a republic and a DEMOCRACY.

No, probably the least known fact in America is that "republic" and "democracy" are both FACADES.

This country -- er, CORPORATION -- is a FASCIST OLIGARCHY and has been from day one. There is a ton of evidence to support this, all compiled in my e-book.

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Like it or not dumbass, the American Republic is a REPRESENTATIVE DEMOCRACY. Period.


BTW, you owe us blue staters $5 trillion for the Bush disaster.


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THE HEGELIAN PRINCIPLE

Copyright 2000 By Ray Thomas

This is the "basic con" the power seekers use and is the basis for every other con. The "con" exposed herein that allows the power seekers to gain ever more power over us is very simple, and easy to understand after it is explained to you; From that time on, you are able to "read between the lines" in everything they do, and start being "an obstacle" to their plans instead of agreeing to your own enslavement. -Ray Thomas

Why is it that just now, when the heavy push is on to enact more and more restrictive laws against self-defense, children are taking guns in hand and murdering their classmates? Why hasn't it happened before? What is it about our society that makes people (not just children) go on killing sprees, then, in most cases, kill themselves in the end, and for small things? Why are people being murdered almost daily over such small things as "sticking their noses in the air" and ignoring their classmates? Since when has refusing to associate with people whose demeanor and way of life you do not like (and we're not talking about racism here) required a "death sentence?" Why does a man go to two different places and kill people because of some real or imagined slight? Why do two people who have an accident, instead of letting the insurance company handle it, start shooting each other.? How about that guy who purposely drove his car into several children, killing some? Oops. Forgot. That didn't involve a gun so the "anti-gun fanatics" aren't interested. But all those questions deserve an answer. Why, indeed, are these things happening, one after the other, -- just now?

Some people suspect a plot by the power seekers (liberals) to use such incidents as a lever to get more restrictive laws passed and have sponsored or caused these killings to whip up support for their new laws. Some even think these people who do these killings are brainwashed, a la "The Manchurian Candidate," where the Chinese Communists programmed a POW to kill a presidential candidate on verbal a signal he got over the phone to "activate" him after years as an "upstanding citizen." Others, such as I, believe that if you search the news morgues, you're going to find that such incidents have happened with some regularity for as long as anybody can remember. The reason it seems like it is happening with increasing regularity today is because it has been purposely highlighted by the mainstream news media at the behest of the power seekers (many of whom WORK in the media).

THE HEGELIAN PRINCIPLE: I've written before about the "Hegelian Principle," which the power seekers have been using with amazing success for a lot longer than I can remember to create support for their power grabs. It's a simple principle. It has only three steps:

* Step one: CREATE A "PROBLEM": Create it or take one that does exist and build it up out of all proportion to its real importance;

* Step Two: PUBLICIZE THE "PROBLEM": Make sure a story about this problem appears in the news media each and every day, in newspapers, news magazines, radio, and television. Hit it again and again in a "steady drumbeat" that soon has people who don't pay real attention to politics (which is the majority of them) clamoring for a "solution" to the problem;

* Step Three: OFFER A "SOLUTION": A solution that takes away one or more of our rights and further undermines the constitutional protections we all are supposed to enjoy. One that involves higher taxes (to pay for this "solution," of course), and one we would not have allowed them to do without this previous conditioning of the public.

WORKS LIKE A "CHARM": They've been using this method for a long time now, and it's working for them. It has allowed them to "tighten the noose" on the American people to a point we wouldn't have believed even a few short years ago.

Another example of the use of the Hegelian Principle is the so-called "child protection crisis."

There is no child protection crisis. Child abuse has actually been going downin recent years, while "reports" of it have been rising exponentially. Children have suffered, but in many cases, from the neglect of the "child protectors" for the real cases while they pursue the false ones. By their own figures, 80% of all child abuse reports cannot be substantiated. Eighty percent!

There's a good reason for that: they've been "whipsawing" us for years (step two) about it until (step three)a sweeping child protection law was passed that created what we now call the "Good Samaritan Laws," which absolutely protect child protection workers and others who "report" child abuse from all legal repercussions, even if it can be proved that the "report" was given for a malicious reason. Then they told all the people who work with children such as teachers, medical personnel, school bus drivers, etc. that they were "mandated reporters." What that means is that if they see something that gives them the slightest suspicion of child abuse, they must report it or be subject to civil and criminal charges themselves. Even if they don't believe it. They must report it or take chances with their own futures.

In other words, if they "report," even if they don't really believe it is child abuse, they're completely safe. If they don't "report" and some bureaucrat later decided it was child abuse, they will not be safe. What would you do? Because of this lawyers are now advising their clients, not just in contested divorces but in all kinds of litigation, to call in an anonymous "report" of child abuse on one of those ubiquitous "Child Abuse Hotlines" the child protectors have set up all over the country. Then their opponent in the original case will be so busy defending against that, he/she will be less able to pursue the original action. The reason they do this is: there is no penalty to be paid for those calling in false child abuse reports.

Couple that with child protection workers who treat every case as if it were "solid gold," even if supported by nothing more than an anonymous phone call and pursue it to "the bitter end," going for "termination of parental rights and adoption even in cases where the parents are completely innocent, and you have a recipe for disaster. And a perfect opportunity for those "small-time dictators" to control others. They do this (the locals) because there is a financial incentive for it in addition to satisfying their own small-time quest for power. Their agency gets $4,000 a month for each child in foster care. They get lesser figures for each child they can take away from their parents, for however short a time. And if they can get the parent's rights terminated and put that child up for adoption, the agency gets $10,000. And, in many, I would even say, most cases, the individual worker who causes this to happen gets a cash (or merchandise) bonus. And they get to keep their jobs. Keeping their jobs is very important to a bureaucrat. And, with the possible exception of the "lower levels," (who get the bonuses) being in the child protection racket can be very lucrative. Some of the higher executives make $100,000 or more a year.

CURRICULUM CONTROL: The entire system of payments for "Results" was set up by the power seekers in the federal government for a single purpose: to take total control of what is taught our children away from parents and put it in the hands of the federal government. They know, just as did Hitler and Stalin and most other power seekers, that in order for their scams to work, they must get to the minds of the children at as early an age as possible and teach them the values of the power seekers, not of the parents. To teach them collectivism and "forced altruism," where money is taken from those who earn it and given to those who don't in return for the votes to keep the power seekers in office. This so they can continue to wield power and enjoy the "perks" such power gives them. Not to mention the "heady brew" of being able to control, absolutely, what others may do.

No, I don't think the power seekers are "setting up" these mass killings to whip up support for their laws against self-defense. But I do think they're doing an excellent job of taking advantage of those things that happen all the time, but are usually "local stories" until the "big boys" take them and build them up to the point where it seems that "violence is increasing and we've got to do something about it!" Never mind that they've got about 20,000 anti-gun laws already on the books, which they rarely (in selected circumstances only) enforce. They immediately go out and clamor for more laws as soon as news of yet another massacre hits the news. They don't enforce them (unless it suits their purpose) because gun laws that work don't help them in their quest for complete disarmament of the American population. And they must disarm us if they are to become our dictators.

THEY FEAR US: Even now, we're seeing evidence that the people running our governments fear us. Every government building is now an "armed camp" where you must submit to a "warrantless search" in order to enter when they demand your presence. As people grow ever more irritated with their ever-increasing interference in everybody's daily lives, they know that soon people who have guns are going to take serious offense to the things they do to us and they're deathly afraid of the result. So the drive to disarm us goes into "high gear" and every occurrence that can help their cause is "touted to the skies," while the ones that don't (such as the one in Atlanta a few days after the more famous Atlanta shootings, where the attacker was killed by people on the scene who had their own guns before he could kill anybody) are studiously ignored. If they succeed in this, you will indeed become a "slave" to the whims of any bureaucrat who wants to "lord it over you." They will make so many laws that there will be no way for you to live without breaking one.

CREATE CRIMINALS: Philosopher Ayn Rand said: "There's no way to rule innocent men. The only power any government has is the power to crack down on criminals. Well, when there aren't enough criminals, one "makes" them. One declares so many things to be a crime that it becomes impossible for men to live without breaking laws. Who wants a nation of law-abiding citizens? What's there in that for anyone? But just pass the kind of laws that can neither be observed nor enforced nor objectively interpreted -- and you create a nation of law-breakers-and then you cash in on the guilt." (Ayn Rand, "Atlas Shrugged")

That's what they're doing, and you can make no mistake about it. If we continue to allow them to get away with it, they'll win. Then we'll all be slaves. You'll know it is happening when people like me either disappear or become subject to false charges that have nothing to do with what we're saying. We'll be the first to go - and you'll be next.

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Why don't all you moronic Ayn Rand freaks do like John Galt and piss off to libertarian utopia?? Take Clarence Thomas, Ron Paul and Paul Ryan with you! We would be so much better off without your presence!

LEAVE!

Certainly not since the Civil War

To All, This is from a book by Lee Brobst U.S. of A. the Republic is the house that no one lives in. Now take a look at how your own federal government defines the difference between a republic and democracy. The following was taken from U.S. Government Training Manual, No. 2000-25 dated WAR DEPARTMENT, Washington, November 30, 1928 and prepared under direction of the Chief of Staff. Under which do you live?

DEMOCRACY: A government of the masses. Authority derived through mass meeting or any other form of "direct" expression. Results in mobocracy. Attitude toward property is communistic- negating property rights. Attitude toward law is that the will of the majority shall regulate, whether it be based upon deliberation or governed by passion, prejudice, and impulse, without restraint or regard to consequences. Results in demagogism, license, agitation, discontent, anarchy.

REPUBLIC: Authority is derived through the election by the people of public officials best fitted to represent them. Attitude toward property is respect for laws and individual rights, and a sensible economic procedure. Attitude toward law is the administration of justice in accord with fixed principals and established evidence, with a strict regard to consequences. A greater number of citizens and extent of territory may be brought within its compass. Avoids the dangerous extreme of either tyranny or mobocracy. Results in statesmanship, liberty, reason, justice, contentment, and progress. Is the "standard form" of government throughout the world. A republic is a form of government under a Constitution which provides for the election of
an executive, and

a legislative body, who working together in a representative capacity, have all the power of appointment, all power of legislation, all power to raise revenue and appropriate expenditures, and

are required to create a judiciary to pass upon the justice and legality of their governmental Acts, and

to recognize certain inherent individual rights.

Take away any one or more of those four elements and you are drifting into autocracy. Add one or more to those four elements and your are drifting into democracy. Superior to all others. Autocracy declares the divine right of kings; its authority can not be questioned; its powers are arbitrarily or unjustly administered. Democracy is the "direct" rule of the people and has been repeatedly tried without success. Our constitutional fathers, familiar with the strength and weakness of both autocracy and democracy, with fixed principles definitely in mind, defined a representative republican form of government. They "made a very marked distinction between a republic and a democracy and said repeatedly and emphatically that they had founded a republic."
Since March 27,1861 the DeFacto government of democracy achieved a defeat of the Republic and became outlaw to the Constitution,if you vote for the defacto government you become outlaw to the Constitution and give up your God given unalienable rights as enumerated in the 'BILL OF RIGHTS' the white rose DO NOT VOTE

republics are run by rich oligarchs. Just look at Rome.

Right but the word dictator or dictatorship needs to fit in there somewhere

A democracy is mob rule, where the majority tell the minority what they can and can't do, so no, we live in a republic.

AUTHOR: Benjamin Franklin (1706–90)
QUOTATION: “Well, Doctor, what have we got—a Republic or a Monarchy?”

“A Republic, if you can keep it.” ATTRIBUTION: The response is attributed to BENJAMIN FRANKLIN—at the close of the Constitutional Convention of 1787, when queried as he left Independence Hall on the final day of deliberation—in the notes of Dr. James McHenry, one of Maryland’s delegates to the Convention.

Republic - a state in which the head of government is not a monarch or other hereditary head of state.

Wrong. We live in a democracy because the majority are doped up dumbshits strung out on antidepressants and other neurotoxins.

ameriiikkkkkaaaa

is a f'd up shitty commie state

managed by mafia masons who are puppets of their commie illuminati

this is it

I hear that quote frequently. If Franklin were alive today I imagine him saying something such as this:

"What the hell is the matter with you people?! Not only did you not keep it, you pissed on it! You pissed on it one-thousand ways and still have the audacity to celebrate the Day of Independence?! You had nothing to do with it and you have done nothing to maintain it! As a tireless proponent of Liberty and Freedom I utter these words in the manner I now see so often on your Internet.....REPUBLIC? FAIL!"

I doubt that very much.
I can't speak for him, but believe it it or not, I'm a direct descendant of Franklin and it's my opinion he would by appalled by some aspects of the nation and thrilled with others.