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+++++++++ UFO OVER NYC JUST BEFORE HURRICANE +++++++++

 
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There's nothing CLOAKED about it. They are spheres.
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There's nothing CLOAKED about it. They are spheres.
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Saw something THE SAME as the first part of first video (before it turned on other lights) in the first myself....they aren't spheres.

I know what I saw....and my friend saw it too.
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Well they can be flying in formation. It's not like it's a mothership turning on lights one after the other...
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You said ONE of the videos, what about the rest of the videos which feature different angles, same lights, same night.
 Quoting: heartmindspirit


Yeah, the video of the Black neighborhood kids and all? That is obviously a fake. I haven't analyzed the rest of them yet but in general...this could be easily, and I mean EASILY, accomplished with Adobe After Effects.

Go look at the Jerusalem UFO sightings earlier this year. EACH AND EVERY ONE OF THEM WAS A HOAX. Made simply with After Effects, some sound effects, and a JPG from the internet.

There was a similar video recently with the Arizona dust storm. They just used an image of the dust storm with a VERY convincing UFO image. It looked uber real. Everyone cried against the reptilians in the government. Blablabla. It was fake.

So yes, the ONE video I can see clear problems with, does blow a hole in this whole case.
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Well they can be flying in formation. It's not like it's a mothership turning on lights one after the other...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1525128


Thought of that as we watched them....but they were in PERFECT sych and in direct line with each other.....and 100% silent.
They also didn't use regular FAA lighting....it was VERY bright red with partially white lights...no flashing.

If you saw it as we did back then....you would have said the same.....not a formation.....but ONE CRAFT.

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Just another example of NATOs incompetence I guess...
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Alright guys,
I looked at each one of the videos and there are CLEAR After Effects issues in each of them except for the original video that the OP posted.

They are all containing moments of FAKE camera movement where the "UFO"s stay in the same place but everything else moves.

The original video does have a few places where there is skipping frames on the TRACKING of the movement.

The videographer also seemed very interested in moving the camera a ton to prove to you that it was real (assuming it was faked).

The lights in the original video do not match the number of the other creations, also.

So...what I'm getting at is that there is big proof that a lot of these videos are hoaxes.

Move along.
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Alright guys,
I looked at each one of the videos and there are CLEAR After Effects issues in each of them except for the original video that the OP posted.

They are all containing moments of FAKE camera movement where the "UFO"s stay in the same place but everything else moves.

The original video does have a few places where there is skipping frames on the TRACKING of the movement.

The videographer also seemed very interested in moving the camera a ton to prove to you that it was real (assuming it was faked).

The lights in the original video do not match the number of the other creations, also.

So...what I'm getting at is that there is big proof that a lot of these videos are hoaxes.

Move along.
 Quoting: the8track


You forgot...in your trying to conveniently "explain this away" all the people making comments.....including the children making alien comments. grnrolleyes


getwell

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this same vid is on the OTHER forum, and they claim it is identified now as chinese lanterns, but i cant open the thread to see what they are using as evidence. anyone care to check it out?
if it turns out to be verified chinese lanterns, i want whoever gave me the ba karma for suggesting it to give me a good one to balance out my karma!

hf
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this same vid is on the OTHER forum, and they claim it is identified now as chinese lanterns, but i cant open the thread to see what they are using as evidence. anyone care to check it out?
if it turns out to be verified chinese lanterns, i want whoever gave me the ba karma for suggesting it to give me a good one to balance out my karma!

hf
 Quoting: chrissie123


Chinese lanterns don't hover in a TRIANGLE FORMATION.

putin
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this same vid is on the OTHER forum, and they claim it is identified now as chinese lanterns, but i cant open the thread to see what they are using as evidence. anyone care to check it out?
if it turns out to be verified chinese lanterns, i want whoever gave me the ba karma for suggesting it to give me a good one to balance out my karma!

hf
 Quoting: chrissie123


Chinese lanterns don't hover in a TRIANGLE FORMATION.

putin
 Quoting: Burt Gummer


hover, drift, that is basically ALL chinese lanterns do. and they could have been tied together? Three lights will only ever make a triangle shape. and the cluster of them only appeared triangular for a moment.
just asking if anyone is able to check out the OTHER FORUM to see what they found as evidence as i cannot get the thread open.

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You forgot...in your trying to conveniently "explain this away" all the people making comments.....including the children making alien comments. grnrolleyes


getwell
 Quoting: Burt Gummer


Nice attempt at providing "conclusive evidence".

There were plenty of voices and people in the FAKED Jerusalem UFOs also.

Anyone can get some kids to say anything.

Just ask the father of Balloon Boy if you doubt me.

UFOs exist, but so do easy After Effects tricks.

Again, review the videos and you will clearly see the entire landscape moving but the dots staying in the same place.

Sorry.

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hover, drift, that is basically ALL chinese lanterns do. and they could have been tied together? Three lights will only ever make a triangle shape. and the cluster of them only appeared triangular for a moment.
just asking if anyone is able to check out the OTHER FORUM to see what they found as evidence as i cannot get the thread open.
 Quoting: chrissie123


The original video could very well be chinese lanterns given the flickering and the changing clusters.

HOWEVER (and this is a BIG point you all have to realize)

The original video is FAR different in origins from the triangle videos.

The triangle videos are a fake.

The original very well could be real.

But very likely chinese lanterns.
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this same vid is on the OTHER forum, and they claim it is identified now as chinese lanterns, but i cant open the thread to see what they are using as evidence. anyone care to check it out?
if it turns out to be verified chinese lanterns, i want whoever gave me the ba karma for suggesting it to give me a good one to balance out my karma!

hf
 Quoting: chrissie123


Chinese lanterns don't hover in a TRIANGLE FORMATION.

putin
 Quoting: Burt Gummer


hover, drift, that is basically ALL chinese lanterns do. and they could have been tied together? Three lights will only ever make a triangle shape. and the cluster of them only appeared triangular for a moment.
just asking if anyone is able to check out the OTHER FORUM to see what they found as evidence as i cannot get the thread open.

A
T
S
 Quoting: chrissie123


Considerations for that......

1) There was no discernible DRIFT or parachuting down as fireworks parachute lanterns ALWAYS do...they stayed in place.

2) How you even go about shooting 3 lanterns in the air that turn into a triangle formation and stay that way?
...spaced a 1/4 mile apart no less.

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Look, this is how this thread is going to play out.

Myself and maybe a couple others will post the evidence that this isn't what the OP thinks it is.

The OP will hold on to his pride and accuse us of being shills.

Then some mentally ill people will come in here and ramble on about abductions and HAARP and reptilians.

So IDK why I bother giving an honest perspective.

I WANT UFOs to exist just as much as you. Chill out.
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2) How you even go about shooting 3 lanterns in the air that turn into a triangle formation and stay that way?
...spaced a 1/4 mile apart no less.

spock
 Quoting: Burt Gummer


Again.

Say what you want about the first video.

But those triangle videos are CLEARLY fake.

You don't know anything about film editing do you?

They do not apply to your argument. Not now. Not ever.

Fake, fake, fake.
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2) How you even go about shooting 3 lanterns in the air that turn into a triangle formation and stay that way?
...spaced a 1/4 mile apart no less.

spock
 Quoting: Burt Gummer


Again.

Say what you want about the first video.

But those triangle videos are CLEARLY fake.

You don't know anything about film editing do you?

They do not apply to your argument. Not now. Not ever.

Fake, fake, fake.
 Quoting: the8track


Yeah...da homeys in da hood have the brain power to fake the video.
...and the 3 or more kids were just staring at space and talking about aliens randomly.

cruise

...and how do you explain away what I, and my friend, saw JUST LIKE THOSE LIGHTS a few months back?
I edited my brain and his too???

norespect

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LOL here is an 8 minute video of a COMPILATION of the UFOS that where seen over Brooklyn that same night, just wow


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WHat language are they speaking?
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Look, this is how this thread is going to play out.

Myself and maybe a couple others will post the evidence that this isn't what the OP thinks it is.


The OP will hold on to his pride and accuse us of being shills.

Then some mentally ill people will come in here and ramble on about abductions and HAARP and reptilians.

So IDK why I bother giving an honest perspective.

I WANT UFOs to exist just as much as you. Chill out.
 Quoting: the8track


So you will POST CLEAR EVIDENCE and the rest of us just THINK we saw something huh?

padroom scrwbl
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Sometimes the movement of the camera will distort weak points of light to the extent of disappearing for a moment like a frame.
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Yeah...da homeys in da hood have the brain power to fake the video.
...and the 3 or more kids were just staring at space and talking about aliens randomly.
 Quoting: Burt Gummer


You know, I keep referencing these recently faked Jerusalem UFO sightings and you keep ignoring those.

In the Jerusalem fake UFO videos there was a bunch of...

1. After effect dots that were "ufos". - check
2. Multiple videos of it. - check
3. Digitally edited so that it looked like there was "shakey cam". - check
4. Actors talking about the UFO in the sky. - check

In those videos you had a bunch of people speaking ARABIC, ENGLISH, etc.

Just because people are talking in the video doesn't mean they were who produced it.

C'mon. I'm not writing that whatever you saw was fake. I'm not claiming there wasn't something legitimate in the sky in the ORIGINAL video you posted. But when I explain that the VIDEO SCREEN is moving and shaking while the DOTS are staying in the same location...kids talking and pointing doesn't provide enough legit evidence to argue with me.

The triangle videos are hoaxes.
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When black people start seeing UFO's, you know somethings is going on.
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you got that right
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Yeah...da homeys in da hood have the brain power to fake the video.
...and the 3 or more kids were just staring at space and talking about aliens randomly.
 Quoting: Burt Gummer


You know, I keep referencing these recently faked Jerusalem UFO sightings and you keep ignoring those.


In the Jerusalem fake UFO videos there was a bunch of...

1. After effect dots that were "ufos". - check
2. Multiple videos of it. - check
3. Digitally edited so that it looked like there was "shakey cam". - check
4. Actors talking about the UFO in the sky. - check

In those videos you had a bunch of people speaking ARABIC, ENGLISH, etc.

Just because people are talking in the video doesn't mean they were who produced it.

C'mon. I'm not writing that whatever you saw was fake. I'm not claiming there wasn't something legitimate in the sky in the ORIGINAL video you posted. But when I explain that the VIDEO SCREEN is moving and shaking while the DOTS are staying in the same location...kids talking and pointing doesn't provide enough legit evidence to argue with me.

The triangle videos are hoaxes.
 Quoting: the8track


This is not Jerusalem....nor were these faked.
...but post the videos in question....I'll check then out.

As for the Triangle vids being hoaxes... hi



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finally got the oTHER forum working.
here is the evidence i have found, as posted by a user there:

"This was in memory of Yaritza Pacheco that passed away 8/21/11 by a stray bullet on 174th st.

michellinda25 3 minutes ago
These are not ufos. These were lanterns released in memory of my lil sis who passed away.

michellinda25 8 minutes ago

And just in case you think this lady is talking out of here AAA www.dailymail.co.uk"

search for michellinda25 on youtube, she has a channel, look in her comments and see where she has been posting thses comments on the vids trying to tell people she released these lanterns.


yes! I win! do i get a prize??

lol.
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Not saying the video is a hoax but the audio in them has a weird type of processing that makes it sound like there is a carrier signal within these with encoded subliminal messages. Just say'n...
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thread title should be "a shit blurry choppy ufo video narrirated by pauly D"
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finally got the oTHER forum working.
here is the evidence i have found, as posted by a user there:

"This was in memory of Yaritza Pacheco that passed away 8/21/11 by a stray bullet on 174th st.

michellinda25 3 minutes ago
These are not ufos. These were lanterns released in memory of my lil sis who passed away.

michellinda25 8 minutes ago

And just in case you think this lady is talking out of here AAA www.dailymail.co.uk"

search for michellinda25 on youtube, she has a channel, look in her comments and see where she has been posting thses comments on the vids trying to tell people she released these lanterns.


yes! I win! do i get a prize??

lol.
 Quoting: chrissie123


awww, come on! I googled and fought with internet all night long to bring the proof! Can't someone give me a smiley or a WTG or sumpin??

dasbier

(i so rarely get the upper hand in debates lately!)
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finally got the oTHER forum working.
here is the evidence i have found, as posted by a user there:

"This was in memory of Yaritza Pacheco that passed away 8/21/11 by a stray bullet on 174th st.

michellinda25 3 minutes ago
These are not ufos. These were lanterns released in memory of my lil sis who passed away.

michellinda25 8 minutes ago

And just in case you think this lady is talking out of here AAA www.dailymail.co.uk"

search for michellinda25 on youtube, she has a channel, look in her comments and see where she has been posting thses comments on the vids trying to tell people she released these lanterns.


yes! I win! do i get a prize??

lol.
 Quoting: chrissie123


awww, come on! I googled and fought with internet all night long to bring the proof! Can't someone give me a smiley or a WTG or sumpin??

dasbier

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...you call that PROOF???
OF ANYTHING??? crazy

...obviously you are A LEGEND IN YOUR OWN MIND. drunk smiley

hahafail

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finally got the oTHER forum working.
here is the evidence i have found, as posted by a user there:

"This was in memory of Yaritza Pacheco that passed away 8/21/11 by a stray bullet on 174th st.

michellinda25 3 minutes ago
These are not ufos. These were lanterns released in memory of my lil sis who passed away.

michellinda25 8 minutes ago

And just in case you think this lady is talking out of here AAA www.dailymail.co.uk"

search for michellinda25 on youtube, she has a channel, look in her comments and see where she has been posting thses comments on the vids trying to tell people she released these lanterns.


yes! I win! do i get a prize??

lol.
 Quoting: chrissie123


awww, come on! I googled and fought with internet all night long to bring the proof! Can't someone give me a smiley or a WTG or sumpin??

dasbier

(i so rarely get the upper hand in debates lately!)
 Quoting: chrissie123


...you call that PROOF???
OF ANYTHING??? crazy

...obviously you are A LEGEND IN YOUR OWN MIND. drunk smiley

hahafail
 Quoting: Burt Gummer


awww, you're no fun.
but seriously, we have someone admitting they released the lanterns, incluing the article that correlates with her story of mourning her sister. not much more i can provide for proof. if that isn;t good enough for you, nothing will be. Your fail is a fail!





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