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skeptical painter User ID: 18392317 New Zealand 09/01/2012 10:05 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | . Here is a video of her painting a piece from start to finish. The plot thickens..... [link to www.youtube.com] |
miffed User ID: 22681904 Australia 09/01/2012 11:10 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | . Quoting: skeptical painter 18392317 Here is a video of her painting a piece from start to finish. The plot thickens..... [link to www.youtube.com] Looks pretty real to me |
Sir France's Beercan User ID: 1245590 Austria 09/01/2012 11:15 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | . Quoting: skeptical painter 18392317 Here is a video of her painting a piece from start to finish. The plot thickens..... [link to www.youtube.com] Bullshit! No-one can paint that fast! |
miffed User ID: 22681904 Australia 09/01/2012 11:23 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | . Quoting: skeptical painter 18392317 Here is a video of her painting a piece from start to finish. The plot thickens..... [link to www.youtube.com] hmmm I just said looks pretty real to me then I watched this video & in the end she is still working on the painting in this original video & she's NOT in the same clothes or sitting down so i'm a bit dubious now?? Also someone else in this thread said her mother is a painter & yet in her interviews it is stressed that there are no other painters in the family so I dunno [link to www.youtube.com] |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1063144 United States 09/01/2012 07:42 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | My guess is that she does her own work and that she;s just good at it. Fast development, but not impossible to manage. The question is why would she focus on religious art? Some kind of obsession would be my guess, meaning her great skill might just be part of a mental problem. One with interesting and talented results. *Yes, that kind of obsession with one topic is generally considered a problem. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 22902865 United States 09/01/2012 07:43 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | A child who had a NDE, says he went to heaven. And saw Jesus. When he returned he stated, every picture or painting of Jesus was incorrect. Except for only one, which actually resembled him. This painting of Jesus, is done by this same girl! Colton Burpo I became acquainted with the work of Akiane through the book, Heaven Is For Real by Todd Burpo. 4-year-old old Colton visited heaven and when his parents realized that he truly had been given a special gift - time with Jesus – they showed Colton dozens of paintings by masters and illustrators – there was always something wrong… Akiane Kramarik Todd learned that there was a girl – that started seeing visions of heaven at age 4 – her name Akiane Kramarik. when Todd showed his son Colton – a realistic painting that Akiane had done at age 8 – this is how it played out… “what is wrong with this one?” He turned to the screen and for a long moment said nothing. “Colton?” But he just stood there, studying. I couldn’t read the expression. “What’s wrong with this one, Colton?” I said again. Utter silence. I nudged him in the arm. “Colton?” My seven-year-old turned to look at me and said, “Dad, that one’s right.” [link to yellowdogstudio.org] |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 29248910 United States 09/29/2013 04:20 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Well... I suppose it depends on what god you are referring to here. I am a Christian and I have recently watched some YouTube videos and also looked at her website of recent paintings that Akiane has painted to use in my class presentation, and I was VERY disturbed by words she uses and religions she supports as her own. I noticed her recent paintings are VERY new age and very disturbing and dark. Akiane seems very confused about being a Christian, and she is lifting up new age teachings and is hanging out with new age teachers and she has said she really likes what they teach and has incorporated their thoughts and teachings into her paintings and her poetry... You can look yourself and read the poems she has written, and especially the one with the man who is Buddhist or some other religion... and she is taking their advice. She has even said herself; " I can't do this..." and she says her mom would talk to her and encourage her and she would continue. I wonder what is it that she can't continue to do? If you are being used by Jesus, then He will see you through, but I do not think this of the Lord as it is too new age and God will not support false doctrine and anything that is not of His teachings, PERIOD. Personally I have had a strange feeling about this whole thing about her and God talking to her all the time, and taking her up often, and she was talking to Jesus and so forth... Don't get me wrong, I think it is possible that you can be used by God, but when it goes out of the teaching of the Bible, then red flags should go up for a true Christian. Also, the way she speaks seems to always stay the same, the same words, phrases and behaviors are almost the same as when she was younger...? I think her parents are into new age and they are guiding her and her siblings into realms of the new age cult that will be revealed in good time. I think it is about money, just as all the others have come and gone by robbing vulnerable people and Christians that don't read their Bible and have no clue what to look for, so they fall for every person that comes along and says they are a Christian... this really breaks my heart to see so many "good" people fooled by trickery and snake oil techniques. I was going to present her "Jesus" painting to my class, but upon my research I cannot in good conscience present her as a Christian artist, but I can as a possible child prodigy or just a good artist, until further notice. I was saddened by my findings, but I was not surprised by it. If you read the Bible you can see what is of the Lord and what is a replica of what satan wants to use to mislead vulnerable and unlearned people of God's word. Christians don't just fall for anything that people say... Test the spirits and IF you are a Christian, then be diligent and not a follower of what everyone else thinks, but use your discernment if you have it. WAKE UP CHRISTIAN'S, WAKE UP AMERICA IS DROWNING IN DOCTRINE OF DEMONS! WAKE UP! |
LightofChrist User ID: 47437800 Australia 09/29/2013 04:56 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ..Any proof for this? What if her parents are actually doing the paintings and attribute everything to God to make lots of cash? We are talking about millions here. Are they using the money they make to go out and feed the hungry, shelter the homeless look after the sick? Are they living humble lives of below medium class while having such wealth and using the wealth for others entirely? If not it is not the work of God, but all talents which are good come from the Light of Christ but this does not mean that spirit is aligned with God or knows the truth. |
Lotus Flower User ID: 30972541 Netherlands 09/29/2013 05:32 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Could an 8 years old paint something like this without instructions? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1520120 [link to www.artakiane.com] And why there is no progression from age 8 to age 16? Also whats up with the names? Akiane in russian means ocean and her older brother's name is delfini which in russian means dolphin. They seem the kind of names new age parents would give to their children. Here are some posts from [link to fagistan.blogspot.com] Anonymous #1: She may be a prodigy - but I find it strange that a self-taught artist, at that age, would observe the blues and cools in the skin tones (visible in the closeup of a hand). Kids don't see those subtleties. The proportions, the drawing - that can be done with a projector; many adults use them. Or Akiane may have developed a good hand... but the manipulation of paint is not something you're just "born with". And hello.. what's with the teeny brushes?? You use bigger brushes to block in a work that's bigger than 12" X 16" - or it's like using a Q-tip to wax a floor. The growth in the work produced from age 8 to age 9 is too great... I've painted for many years, done art all my life... and this just looks like an adult's hand. As well, there hasn't been a significant growth from age 9 to 11. If there was such shocking growth between age 8 and 9, it would continue - she would be exploring atmospheric effects, perhaps moving into more subtle colour relationships. Anonymous #2: Akiane's mother Ferelli Krameric was a friend and neighbor of my mom when her family lived in coal Creek canyon, Colorado during 2002/2003. She was also associated with the Boulder Colorado "Urantia Book" Religious organization, of which my mother is a member. We believe that there are many questionable circumstances surrounding Akiane's status as a child prodigy. Firstly, her mother is a painter in very much the same vein. In fact, one of the paintings on Akiane's website is virtually identical to a piece which was hanging in their living room, and was represented to us as being created by Ferelli. Also, Ferelli was avidly searching for a model for a portrait of Jesus that SHE wanted to paint. She constantly talked about Akiane being the second coming of Christ; time traveling, unusual dreams, profetic quotes, etc. To us, the child acted and spoke as a normal seven year old kid. When her mother would conduct such rantings about the child, Akiane appeared upset and annoyed about the stories. There WAS progression between the ages of 8 and 16 OP. Where did you get the idea there was not? Lotus Be not forgetful to entertain strangers: for thereby some have entertained angels unawares - Hebrews 13:2 One Crowded hour of glorious life, is worth an age without a name - Thomas Osbert Mordaunt |
Lotus Flower User ID: 30972541 Netherlands 09/29/2013 05:34 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | My guess is that she does her own work and that she;s just good at it. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1063144 Fast development, but not impossible to manage. The question is why would she focus on religious art? Some kind of obsession would be my guess, meaning her great skill might just be part of a mental problem. One with interesting and talented results. *Yes, that kind of obsession with one topic is generally considered a problem. She doesn't just do religious art though, she does other stuff too. Look people, I don't know where you are getting your inf from but this thread seems a little twisted up and inside out. Lotus Be not forgetful to entertain strangers: for thereby some have entertained angels unawares - Hebrews 13:2 One Crowded hour of glorious life, is worth an age without a name - Thomas Osbert Mordaunt |
Lotus Flower User ID: 30972541 Netherlands 09/29/2013 05:44 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ....and as an extra comment here, children have been known, in the past, to do extraordinary things that seem way, way past their physical age capabilities. Mozart was performing before royalty at the age of five and was competent on piano and violin by that age. Around the ago of two he could play. Kim Ung-Yong At the age of six months, he was able to speak and converse with ease. At twenty-four months - when most children barely begin talking in sentences - he was reading effortlessly in four languages: Korean, Japanese, German and English. Akrit Pran Jaswal is an Indian adult who was a child prodigy as a surgeon. He performed his first surgery at the age of seven. Akiane is a child prodigy that excels in art - do nt take credit away from people just because you do not understand the mechanics of how they came to be that way, you wouldn't like it if the same were done to you, do not do it to those who do not deserve it. Lotus Be not forgetful to entertain strangers: for thereby some have entertained angels unawares - Hebrews 13:2 One Crowded hour of glorious life, is worth an age without a name - Thomas Osbert Mordaunt |
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paul User ID: 43711911 United Kingdom 09/29/2013 07:46 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | . Quoting: skeptical painter 18392317 Here is a video of her painting a piece from start to finish. The plot thickens..... [link to www.youtube.com] wow |
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Lotus Flower User ID: 30972541 Netherlands 09/29/2013 08:10 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | For those that seem to think she did nothing between the ages of 8 and 16, her webpage: [link to www.artakiane.com] Click "enter" then click on "gallery" - all her work is there, it is beyond outstanding, please do not take anything away from this person, she is genuine. Lotus Be not forgetful to entertain strangers: for thereby some have entertained angels unawares - Hebrews 13:2 One Crowded hour of glorious life, is worth an age without a name - Thomas Osbert Mordaunt |
..|O_o|.. User ID: 10032593 Canada 09/29/2013 08:50 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | So in your mind.. there can only be two scenarios.? Leave the kid alone.. take a closer look at her handlers. Only an asshole would sit and analyze the credibility of a child.. however I would like to snap a few left jabs off to the dickheads who are deliberately exploiting & profiting from a little girl's passion. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 29248910 United States 10/04/2013 03:21 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Well... I suppose it depends on what "god" you are referring to here. For me there is only ONE. I am a Christian and I have recently watched some YouTube videos and also looked at her website of recent paintings that Akiane has painted to use in my class presentation, and I was VERY disturbed by words she uses and religions she supports as her own. I noticed her recent paintings are VERY new age and very disturbing and dark. Akiane seems very confused about being a Christian, and she is lifting up new age teachings, and is hanging out with new age teachers and she has said she really likes what they teach and has incorporated their thoughts and teachings into her paintings and her poetry... You can look yourself and read many (new age) poems she has written, and especially the one with the man who is Buddhist or some other religion... and she is taking their advice. She has even said herself; " I can't do this..." and she says her mom would talk to her and encourage her and she would continue. I wonder what is it that she can't continue to do? If you are being used by Jesus, then He will see you through, but I do not believe this is of the Lord, as it is too new age, and Jehovah will not support false doctrine and anything that is not of His teachings, PERIOD. I believe God is Love and that is why He sent His Son for our own good, and more importantly, our salvation that Jesus so willingly and horrifically died on that cross for us! There are NOT many ways to heaven John 14:6 this is clear, but many will follow their sinful nature and believe what they want out of convenience or from fear of not being accepted. We are talking about eternity here, and this is REAL. Only One way! Personally I have had a strange feeling about this whole thing about Akiane and God talking to her all the time, and taking her up often, and she was talking to Jesus and so forth... Don't get me wrong, I think it is possible that you can be used by God, but when it goes out of the teaching of the Bible, then red flags should go up for a true Christian. Also, the way she speaks seems to always stay the same, the same words, phrases and behaviors are almost the same as when she was younger...? I think her parents are into new age and they are guiding her and her siblings into realms of the new age cult that will be revealed in good time. I think it may be about money, just as all the others have come and gone by robbing vulnerable people and Christians that don't read their Bible and have no clue what to look for, so they fall for every person that comes along and says they are a Christian... this really breaks my heart to see so many "good" people fooled by trickery and snake oil techniques. I pray for Akiane and I do love her heart or what I can only see of what she portrays to the public. I pray for her and that she reads her Bible to be her guide, and not to allow these new age realms of thought to guide her. Akiane talks about women angels in her book: Akian Her Life, Her Art... Well.. There are NO WOMEN ANGELS IN THE BIBLE... THIS SHOULD BE ANOTHER HUGE RED FLAG FOR TRUE CHRISTIANS. The Bible is for ALL who want to know God and there is no hidden thing if you sincerely want to understand the Bible and have a relationship with Jesus, and do NOT want to be fooled by satan schemes, Sincerely READ THE BIBLE WITH YOUR WHOLE HEART, BE DILIGENT, AND YOU WILL HEAR FROM GOD as you read His Good Word. He will guide you into His truth. I was going to present her "Jesus" painting to my class, but upon my research I cannot in good conscience present her as a Christian artist, but I can as a possible binary child prodigy or just a good artist, until further notice. I was saddened by my findings, but I was not surprised by it. If you read the Bible you can see what is of the Lord and what is a replica of what satan wants to use to mislead vulnerable and unlearned people of God's word. Christians don't just fall for anything that people say... Test the spirits and IF you are a Christian, then be diligent and not a follower of what everyone else thinks, but use your discernment if you have it. WAKE UP CHRISTIAN'S, WAKE UP AMERICA IS DROWNING IN DOCTRINE OF DEMONS! WAKE UP! Well... I suppose it depends on what god you are referring to here. I am a Christian and I have recently watched some YouTube videos and also looked at her website of recent paintings that Akiane has painted to use in my class presentation, and I was VERY disturbed by words she uses and religions she supports as her own. I noticed her recent paintings are VERY new age and very disturbing and dark. Akiane seems very confused about being a Christian, and she is lifting up new age teachings and is hanging out with new age teachers and she has said she really likes what they teach and has incorporated their thoughts and teachings into her paintings and her poetry... You can look yourself and read the poems she has written, and especially the one with the man who is Buddhist or some other religion... and she is taking their advice. She has even said herself; " I can't do this..." and she says her mom would talk to her and encourage her and she would continue. I wonder what is it that she can't continue to do? If you are being used by Jesus, then He will see you through, but I do not think this of the Lord as it is too new age and God will not support false doctrine and anything that is not of His teachings, PERIOD. Personally I have had a strange feeling about this whole thing about her and God talking to her all the time, and taking her up often, and she was talking to Jesus and so forth... Don't get me wrong, I think it is possible that you can be used by God, but when it goes out of the teaching of the Bible, then red flags should go up for a true Christian. Also, the way she speaks seems to always stay the same, the same words, phrases and behaviors are almost the same as when she was younger...? I think her parents are into new age and they are guiding her and her siblings into realms of the new age cult that will be revealed in good time. I think it is about money, just as all the others have come and gone by robbing vulnerable people and Christians that don't read their Bible and have no clue what to look for, so they fall for every person that comes along and says they are a Christian... this really breaks my heart to see so many "good" people fooled by trickery and snake oil techniques. I was going to present her "Jesus" painting to my class, but upon my research I cannot in good conscience present her as a Christian artist, but I can as a possible child prodigy or just a good artist, until further notice. I was saddened by my findings, but I was not surprised by it. If you read the Bible you can see what is of the Lord and what is a replica of what satan wants to use to mislead vulnerable and unlearned people of God's word. Christians don't just fall for anything that people say... Test the spirits and IF you are a Christian, then be diligent and not a follower of what everyone else thinks, but use your discernment if you have it. WAKE UP CHRISTIAN'S, WAKE UP AMERICA IS DROWNING IN DOCTRINE OF DEMONS! WAKE UP! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 29248910 United States 10/04/2013 03:22 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Well... I suppose it depends on what "god" you are referring to here. For me there is only ONE. I am a Christian and I have recently watched some YouTube videos and also looked at her website of recent paintings that Akiane has painted to use in my class presentation, and I was VERY disturbed by words she uses and religions she supports as her own. I noticed her recent paintings are VERY new age and very disturbing and dark. Akiane seems very confused about being a Christian, and she is lifting up new age teachings, and is hanging out with new age teachers and she has said she really likes what they teach and has incorporated their thoughts and teachings into her paintings and her poetry... You can look yourself and read many (new age) poems she has written, and especially the one with the man who is Buddhist or some other religion... and she is taking their advice. She has even said herself; " I can't do this..." and she says her mom would talk to her and encourage her and she would continue. I wonder what is it that she can't continue to do? If you are being used by Jesus, then He will see you through, but I do not believe this is of the Lord, as it is too new age, and Jehovah will not support false doctrine and anything that is not of His teachings, PERIOD. I believe God is Love and that is why He sent His Son for our own good, and more importantly, our salvation that Jesus so willingly and horrifically died on that cross for us! There are NOT many ways to heaven John 14:6 this is clear, but many will follow their sinful nature and believe what they want out of convenience or from fear of not being accepted. We are talking about eternity here, and this is REAL. Only One way! Personally I have had a strange feeling about this whole thing about Akiane and God talking to her all the time, and taking her up often, and she was talking to Jesus and so forth... Don't get me wrong, I think it is possible that you can be used by God, but when it goes out of the teaching of the Bible, then red flags should go up for a true Christian. Also, the way she speaks seems to always stay the same, the same words, phrases and behaviors are almost the same as when she was younger...? I think her parents are into new age and they are guiding her and her siblings into realms of the new age cult that will be revealed in good time. I think it may be about money, just as all the others have come and gone by robbing vulnerable people and Christians that don't read their Bible and have no clue what to look for, so they fall for every person that comes along and says they are a Christian... this really breaks my heart to see so many "good" people fooled by trickery and snake oil techniques. I pray for Akiane and I do love her heart or what I can only see of what she portrays to the public. I pray for her and that she reads her Bible to be her guide, and not to allow these new age realms of thought to guide her. Akiane talks about women angels in her book: Akian Her Life, Her Art... Well.. There are NO WOMEN ANGELS IN THE BIBLE... THIS SHOULD BE ANOTHER HUGE RED FLAG FOR TRUE CHRISTIANS. The Bible is for ALL who want to know God and there is no hidden thing if you sincerely want to understand the Bible and have a relationship with Jesus, and do NOT want to be fooled by satan schemes, Sincerely READ THE BIBLE WITH YOUR WHOLE HEART, BE DILIGENT, AND YOU WILL HEAR FROM GOD as you read His Good Word. He will guide you into His truth. I was going to present her "Jesus" painting to my class, but upon my research I cannot in good conscience present her as a Christian artist, but I can as a possible binary child prodigy or just a good artist, until further notice. I was saddened by my findings, but I was not surprised by it. If you read the Bible you can see what is of the Lord and what is a replica of what satan wants to use to mislead vulnerable and unlearned people of God's word. Christians don't just fall for anything that people say... Test the spirits and IF you are a Christian, then be diligent and not a follower of what everyone else thinks, but use your discernment if you have it. WAKE UP CHRISTIAN'S, WAKE UP AMERICA IS DROWNING IN DOCTRINE OF DEMONS! WAKE UP! |
Kwad User ID: 55043985 Russia 03/02/2014 12:56 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Would someone like to explain how Jesus, the son of God, born to a Jewess in Bethlehem 2000 years ago is now a white boy? It's funny how people with visions of The Christ, where ever they come from always think he looks like a good looking guy of there own people! |
jKoverchenko User ID: 19718389 United States 03/02/2014 01:04 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | . Quoting: skeptical painter 18392317 Here is a video of her painting a piece from start to finish. The plot thickens..... [link to www.youtube.com] Looks pretty real to me the video is fake. you can see a line going up and down on the arm. it's kinda like photoshop but with live action. this is easy stuff to fake. especially if she keeps looking away, doesnt interact, etc. fake. plus if she was the real deal she would paint in front a live cam no probs. heck we could even streeem it live! To be completely honest, this is a form of child abuse. It's called coercion and solicitation of a minor. That is a really big No No. Last Edited by jKoverchenko on 03/02/2014 01:09 AM It's always darkest right before it's pitch black. |
Libbey User ID: 56890314 United States 04/15/2014 07:26 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | anonymous coward...I agree with what you're saying. Maybe Akiane started out legit but did Satan enter the scene...Greed and Pride will bring people down every time. What people don't understand is how deceptive Satan can be. Look at Job, God let Satan have "his way" with him..the true test!! Job remained faithful. Sometimes when people are given a "gift", it can be mis used and not for the glory of God. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 32368354 United States 04/15/2014 07:54 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Sorry about hat, for some reason my post didn't post. Meant to say all kids get annoyed by parents bragging and it's too much for a kid to live up to. A little kid doesn't so anything for power or money. So to accuse this kid of making things up is wrong. The child is not influenced by evil. To anyone that would accuse a child of this all I can say is: God doesn't belong to you. All religions never advance because they are too busy being "right" being "chosen" and being Better. Well, that's not true. I like most of my Christian's friends but they are true, love everyone judge little. They have joy, not conflict. They don't see bad and evil in everything. |
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