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Man, I just read that and I have NO IDEA what they're saying. I can't make out one thing in that article.

What lifeboat? And what about returning in the daylight? What the fuck are they talking about????

Maybe I need to de-frag my brain and try that again. But can anyone make sense of this rhetoric?
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As recently as the mid-90's, Khazakistan had no computers. Or rather, they had the equipment sitting on tables, but no electricity to run them. I met a fellow teacher who, along with her husband, were part of a team which was sent there to help them "get up to speed" with computer literacy. This was in 1994, and they had just recently returned. Maybe that's why they need to have the shuttles come back in the daylight. Also, daylight would make it easier to find them if they drifted off course.

And as far as the "lifeboat", wouldn't you want to have SOME possibility of getting back just in case? For some reason those "lifeboats" have an expiration date. Perhaps their electronics deteriorate from having the direct sunlight beating on them all the time (no filtration of rays by atmosphere or shielding since they are outside).
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Russians want to de-orbit ISS to prevent US use as a spy platform.
Russian Soyuz (1st in 44 launches) missile fails.
Russians say "comrades" must come down due to eventual "short supplies".
Crew agrees to abandon ISS.
ISS left alone.
Mysterious accident causes explosion on ISS while abandoned.
Political and scientific arguments to not de-orbit ISS solved.
Media attention re-focuses on next members of "Dancing With The Stars".
Multiculturalism has turned the "Great Melting Pot" into a cafeteria tray.
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...

Cmon now, dont pretend you havent seen this...

Where is it!

5a
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give us a link astromut. or stop speculating.
 Quoting: Half-Ass


Impatient much?
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TMA-22 is still on, it's just delayed, hence the gap between crews.

 Quoting: Astromut


You amaze me how much you go out of your way to help people who are so vehemently rude to you when their opinion differs from yours.

That impresses me.
 Quoting: Khim


Ya, me too, it's refreshing.
All things concidered, Progress failure, crew escape windows via docked soyuz capsule,Dooom outlines. It's at the least suspect, almost troubling.I wounder, are the launch vehicles for the Soyuz and progress the same? it is mentioned earlier in thread there "alike". but are they the same? I ask only to clarify "there" thought's on cancelation of all aspects of ISS access.
The ISS being vacant is a big deal. (The robot is only and exterior device. not meant for, "flipping switches" as it were.) Pretty sure the "Ifs" will work out.
For NASA, it's all about the schedule/timeline. Quite the oversite. Haveing to Souyuz there for escape/return that expire so close together on the calendar. What woulda happened if the planned Progres went of without a hitch,but the next Soyuz failed? They woulda lost the remaining crew of the ISS as well as the crew of the failed Soyuz.
Space X's Dragon is spose to dockfor the first time on Nov.20th. Pretty big eventto not have scheduled a valid time line.
I'm not in the know. I do know one of my favorite sayings is "Timing is everything." And the timeing of this kinda stinks. I'm just saying.
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Some comets are like old friends, they keep coming back at regular intervals to visit. These are called periodic comets; Comet Halley was the first such comet to be identified, by Edmond Halley back in 1705. It returns to the inner solar system every 75 to 76 years; its last appearance was in 1986 and its next will be in 2061. At present Halley is out just beyond Neptune’s orbit.
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When the Russian cargo ship crashed, they said that would not be a problem since the ISS crew had plenty of supplies...
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Russians want to de-orbit ISS to prevent US use as a spy platform.
Russian Soyuz (1st in 44 launches) missile fails.
Russians say "comrades" must come down due to eventual "short supplies".
Crew agrees to abandon ISS.
ISS left alone.
Mysterious accident causes explosion on ISS while abandoned.
Political and scientific arguments to not de-orbit ISS solved.
Media attention re-focuses on next members of "Dancing With The Stars".
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It was a giant waste of money.


We should of had space jets that could take off like jets from earth and fly out into outer space by now.


The reason we dont is so much money and effort was wasted on this piece of crap space station.


And, now thanks to the short sightedness of Obama, and co.

Our space program is all but finished.

It will take the Chinese building a base on the moon to get this country moving again to realize we need to ge tour asses in gear.

Or we wont.

And we will gradually slip away, Like England, Spain, Portugal

after they lost their edge,
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Why crash this thing into the ocean in 2020 ? Has anyone thought about strapping some PAM rockets on this thing and trying to land it on the moon ?
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Why not? Should be able to charge some backup systems with panels to keep a small accompaniment of equipment working with the robot replacing the naughts.
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Personally if elenin or nibiru were coming to destroy us and I were one of the astronauts I would be like "Fudge that you guys can go back but I'm staying my ass right here and going to enjoy the show!!".

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Or Cosmonaughts rather. Whatever I wouldn't want to leve for nothing!
The truth is the truth even if no one believes it and a lie is a lie even if everyone believes it!
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From what I have been reading supplies are not the problem -at least for the time being.

The soyuz capsules currently docked at the ISS are only certified to be in space for 200 days. The three Russians are due to return home on the first one next month - no problem there.

The certificate on the second capsule expires in mid November, when the remaining three crew members are currently due to return home. Unless that expiry date can be extended or a fresh crew is sent up before Novemeber, that is why the ISS must be abandoned.

Looks like the US government's decision to scrap the shuttles before a replacement is ready, is coming back to bite them in the arse sooner than expected.
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Wont they have to send rocket up to get them out? Can't they put supplies on that rocket and let them stay?
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SickScent,
Remember how brave these astronauts are, not afaid of much.
Ya know riding on top of a couple hundred feet of high explosives, a million part machine built by the lowest bidders, living in a vacuum where the smallest pebble(at 30K mph) could ruin your day.
Stay in the ISS as the 'canary in the mineshaft' would not be an unexpected honor for one these guys.

I wouldn't wait for 'all' of them to be removed SickScent...
And the perfect 'head fake' would be to leave occupants in the ISS knowing whats coming.

Sounds like a great excuse to bring the astro's back home before TEOTWAWKI.
I saw Sickscent post earlier..Chad what do you indeed think about this development?
 Quoting: This is NOT good! 1526691


I was told (and some here remember GLP being told) that this is the exact 'type' of things we would see occurring. But, we shouldn't jump at everything that seems a little odd.

But, IMO, this seems a LOT odd. Things add up, and to disregard that we were told that we would begin seeing some of this stuff taking place...

I remember Boeing Guys words...he said look for ISS to have no one on it. Of course they would give excuses, and not any 'real' information.

So, I am going to wait until ALL crew is removed. When that is a fact, and no one is sitting up there...THAT is unprecedented, and should be examined very closely.
 Quoting: SickScent

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it's already been highly weird up there. i have been watching pretty much all day for 45 days. i've seen plenty. it's all right there to see if anyone has the patience to just spot the first anomaly...
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serious weirdness.
[link to www.nasa.gov]
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they said when the russian supply rocket blew up they had plenty of supplies and it didnt matter!

so which one was a lie?
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I was told (and some here remember GLP being told) that this is the exact 'type' of things we would see occurring. But, we shouldn't jump at everything that seems a little odd.

But, IMO, this seems a LOT odd. Things add up, and to disregard that we were told that we would begin seeing some of this stuff taking place...
I remember Boeing Guys words...he said look for ISS to have no one on it. Of course they would give excuses, and not any 'real' information.

So, I am going to wait until ALL crew is removed. When that is a fact, and no one is sitting up there...THAT is unprecedented, and should be examined very closely.
 Quoting: SickScent


I suspect the 'nauts that are left will have a camera or two focused both away from Earth and towards the planet. If this turns into an EOTWAWKI-type event, there should be someone left to secrete documents in a time capsule for the next civilization.
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Or for "popcorn night" down in the Bunkers......
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There is a test space station to be launched in a few days and it is CHINESE.
If this article holds any truth and it's not BS then Russians might have decided to abandon the ISS since NASA wont share the costs and join the Chinese one and build it according to both countries needs.
America might be collapsing to a new Dark Age but this doesn't mean the rest of the world will follow.
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SickScent,
Remember how brave these astronauts are, not afaid of much.
Ya know riding on top of a couple hundred feet of high explosives, a million part machine built by the lowest bidders, living in a vacuum where the smallest pebble(at 30K mph) could ruin your day.
Stay in the ISS as the 'canary in the mineshaft' would not be an unexpected honor for one these guys.

I wouldn't wait for 'all' of them to be removed SickScent...
And the perfect 'head fake' would be to leave occupants in the ISS knowing whats coming.

Sounds like a great excuse to bring the astro's back home before TEOTWAWKI.
I saw Sickscent post earlier..Chad what do you indeed think about this development?
 Quoting: This is NOT good! 1526691


I was told (and some here remember GLP being told) that this is the exact 'type' of things we would see occurring. But, we shouldn't jump at everything that seems a little odd.

But, IMO, this seems a LOT odd. Things add up, and to disregard that we were told that we would begin seeing some of this stuff taking place...

I remember Boeing Guys words...he said look for ISS to have no one on it. Of course they would give excuses, and not any 'real' information.

So, I am going to wait until ALL crew is removed. When that is a fact, and no one is sitting up there...THAT is unprecedented, and should be examined very closely.
 Quoting: SickScent

 Quoting: uscrusader1


it's already been highly weird up there. i have been watching pretty much all day for 45 days. i've seen plenty. it's all right there to see if anyone has the patience to just spot the first anomaly...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1501171


i remember those posts about the iss being empty as one of the signs as proof they were telling the truth

anomaly?

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There is a test space station to be launched in a few days and it is CHINESE.
If this article holds any truth and it's not BS then Russians might have decided to abandon the ISS since NASA wont share the costs and join the Chinese one and build it according to both countries needs.
America might be collapsing to a new Dark Age but this doesn't mean the rest of the world will follow.
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this could be closer to the truth?
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serious weirdness.
[link to www.nasa.gov]
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What is this that we are looking at?
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April 27, 2011

China’s New Space Station Plans Released

The China manned space engineering office has released plans for a 60 ton space station made up of three capsules and a cargo transport for supplies. It looks like it might be public friendly as well as they have asked for suggestions for names for the space station.


Chinese Space Station

The space station core module will be 18.1 m long with a diameter of 4.2 m and a launch weight of around 20 to 22 tons. This capsule will be the first to be launched. Following on from this the two experimental modules will be connected with the core module. Each one of these laboratory modules is 14.4 m long with the other dimensions the same as the core module.

On a comparison with the international space station (419 tons) the Chinese one will be quite small. Russia’s Mir space station weighed 137 tons.

If you would like to submit a suggestion for the name of the space station it should be sent before May 20 via www.cmse.gov.cn or e-mailed to kongjianzhan@vip.qq.com.

They are also taking suggestions for the name of the cargo ship and this should be submitted before May 20 by the same route.
Chinese Astronauts

Chinese Astronauts

China has entered its second phase of its manned space program and according to the schedule the space module Tiangong-1 and the Shenzhou VIII spacecraft will be launched in the latter half of this year. This will be the first unmanned rendezvous and docking mission. Shenzhou IX and Shenzhou X will be launched next year to dock with Tiangong-1.

There are a few problems though such as the development of technology that would guarantee that space missions could be 20 days long.

[link to www.weirdwarp.com]

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Are we still at the "possibly" stage or is this confirmed? I hear 3 will leave in September and the final 3 in November. 6 people eat 3 tons of food a month?


But this is what they are telling us. Un expected things can and do happen to expedite things in the real world... The toilets could fail or other un for seen events.
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Saw this on FOX news, so no link yet. Basically, they said the ISS would be abandoned beginning on September 16th through October or even November. The main cause is the lack of supplies because of the crash of the supply rocket in Russia.

In light of the Elenin / Nibiru theories for the coming fall, one could easily say, "How convenient?"

Basically, effective Sep 16, there will be no humans in space. I think I'll go celebrate by watching Apollo 18.
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guess when that movie is coming out in Australia yep march

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Why crash this thing into the ocean in 2020 ? Has anyone thought about strapping some PAM rockets on this thing and trying to land it on the moon ?
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Why not? Should be able to charge some backup systems with panels to keep a small accompaniment of equipment working with the robot replacing the naughts.
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Do you know what escape velocity is and how much energy you need to achieve it? It seems not...
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Russians want to de-orbit ISS to prevent US use as a spy platform.
Russian Soyuz (1st in 44 launches) missile fails.
Russians say "comrades" must come down due to eventual "short supplies".
Crew agrees to abandon ISS.
ISS left alone.
Mysterious accident causes explosion on ISS while abandoned.
Political and scientific arguments to not de-orbit ISS solved.
Media attention re-focuses on next members of "Dancing With The Stars".
 Quoting: SoupLover





It was a giant waste of money.


We should of had space jets that could take off like jets from earth and fly out into outer space by now.


The reason we dont is so much money and effort was wasted on this piece of crap space station.


And, now thanks to the short sightedness of Obama, and co.

Our space program is all but finished.

It will take the Chinese building a base on the moon to get this country moving again to realize we need to ge tour asses in gear.

Or we wont.

And we will gradually slip away, Like England, Spain, Portugal

after they lost their edge,
 Quoting: the Dark night 1526815




Holy cow! I'd totally spaced out about the Chinese. (pun?) Seriously, if China WERE to somehow build a base on the moon (and they are the only ones with enough money to do that at this point) what makes you think that they would LET anyone else land there ever again? Or, if they did allow it, it would be with THEIR permission and with THEIR very close oversight, if not total control.
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mmm... abandoning it? or just saying this publicly when the shadow space projects continue in full swing?

thanks for the post! 5a5a
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There is a test space station to be launched in a few days and it is CHINESE.
If this article holds any truth and it's not BS then Russians might have decided to abandon the ISS since NASA wont share the costs and join the Chinese one and build it according to both countries needs.
America might be collapsing to a new Dark Age but this doesn't mean the rest of the world will follow.
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this could be closer to the truth?
 Quoting: alongtimehere


Better by like that, else it means the space powers are temporarily abandoning low earth orbit due to future geopolitical instability that will bring a new balance of power and a reduced number of space capable nations in the immediate future.
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Someone said this would happen-because SHTF soon.Wow. tomato
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April 27, 2011

China’s New Space Station Plans Released

The China manned space engineering office has released plans for a 60 ton space station made up of three capsules and a cargo transport for supplies. It looks like it might be public friendly as well as they have asked for suggestions for names for the space station.


Chinese Space Station

The space station core module will be 18.1 m long with a diameter of 4.2 m and a launch weight of around 20 to 22 tons. This capsule will be the first to be launched. Following on from this the two experimental modules will be connected with the core module. Each one of these laboratory modules is 14.4 m long with the other dimensions the same as the core module.

On a comparison with the international space station (419 tons) the Chinese one will be quite small. Russia’s Mir space station weighed 137 tons.

If you would like to submit a suggestion for the name of the space station it should be sent before May 20 via www.cmse.gov.cn or e-mailed to kongjianzhan@vip.qq.com.

They are also taking suggestions for the name of the cargo ship and this should be submitted before May 20 by the same route.
Chinese Astronauts

Chinese Astronauts

China has entered its second phase of its manned space program and according to the schedule the space module Tiangong-1 and the Shenzhou VIII spacecraft will be launched in the latter half of this year. This will be the first unmanned rendezvous and docking mission. Shenzhou IX and Shenzhou X will be launched next year to dock with Tiangong-1.

There are a few problems though such as the development of technology that would guarantee that space missions could be 20 days long.

[link to www.weirdwarp.com]


 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1238394




Maybe the Chinese will "collect" on our debt, and grab the ISS as part of the "collateral". Then they could join it with theirs, doubling its' size without all of the expense of having to ship all that material out to space, and end up with a year's supply of food to sweeten the bargain.
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