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Astromut Senior Forum Moderator  User ID: 922113  United States08/29/2011 03:34 PM  Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | There is some legitimate but still unconfirmed speculation that during times when our solar system passes through such "fluff" our heliosphere is compressed to a radius of less than 1 AU that our planet is exposed to a much higher than normal concentration of cosmic rays, resulting in increased cloud formation and dramatic climate changes. The heliosphere is nowhere near being compressed to a 1 AU radius however, these changes take place over thousands of years and pose no threat to us, our children, or our children's children. In summation, it's nothing to worry about on a human timescale. Quoting: Astromut I would love to read more about the "fluff" and compressed heliosphere. Can you please put some links to validate yours statements? [link to science.nasa.gov] Increased cosmic rays due to heliosphere compression to a radius much closer to the earth would not be good for us: [link to www.universetoday.com] Fortunately, these are changes that take place over thousands of years, we're in no danger. how do YOU know it hasn't already been happening for thousands of years? As far as the local fluff is concerned, it has been, and it will be for thousands more, but the heliosphere is far beyond the inner solar system and is nowhere near compressed enough to be a threat. In fact, it may never get to the point that it is a threat this time.  |
| TBar1984 User ID: 1254186 United States08/29/2011 03:35 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I had no idea this was pinned and made it to nine pages. I've been working. Nice discussion so far. Thanks for the pin. Quoting: Wizard's First Rule Here's the Link [link to www.foxnews.com] You WERE WRONG. It's not being Abandoned as of the 16th. Yet This Crap is still Pinned. |
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| El Quisqueyano User ID: 1523263 United States08/29/2011 03:36 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | There is some legitimate but still unconfirmed speculation that during times when our solar system passes through such "fluff" our heliosphere is compressed to a radius of less than 1 AU that our planet is exposed to a much higher than normal concentration of cosmic rays, resulting in increased cloud formation and dramatic climate changes. The heliosphere is nowhere near being compressed to a 1 AU radius however, these changes take place over thousands of years and pose no threat to us, our children, or our children's children. In summation, it's nothing to worry about on a human timescale. Quoting: Astromut I would love to read more about the "fluff" and compressed heliosphere. Can you please put some links to validate yours statements? [link to science.nasa.gov] Increased cosmic rays due to heliosphere compression to a radius much closer to the earth would not be good for us: [link to www.universetoday.com] Fortunately, these are changes that take place over thousands of years, we're in no danger. how do YOU know it hasn't already been happening for thousands of years? This is a good argument. Care to elaborate? |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1500870  Thailand08/29/2011 03:41 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | What if what Ed Dames remote viewed was the astronauts escaping the ISS in escape pods due to a meteor storm, or a situation like Elenin. Now for all you skeptics this is just a mental exercise I do not claim to believe in all this nor do I deny all this. The topics on this site and others like it are just a hobby so direct your hate away from me. |
| Wizard's First Rule (OP) User ID: 1026045 United States08/29/2011 03:45 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I had no idea this was pinned and made it to nine pages. I've been working. Nice discussion so far. Thanks for the pin. Quoting: Wizard's First Rule Here's the Link [link to www.foxnews.com] You WERE WRONG. It's not being Abandoned as of the 16th. Yet This Crap is still Pinned. Thank for the article update. I was not wrong when I posted it. I went by the facts presented at the time. Think about it. My source was everyone's favorite sensationalist news entertainment agency ... FOX. That said, it seems they have clarified things over the last three hours with subsequent articles. The article link you provided does say there is a strong possibility they may have to abandon the ISS if they cannot get the Soyuz manned spacecraft up and running by end of year. That means there is still some merit to the subject. I'll edit the subject to say "possibly." That said, I agree. This thread has served its purpose in raising awareness and can be unpinned now. Last Edited by Embernight Walker on 08/29/2011 03:45 PM Wizard's Rule #1: "People are stupid. Given proper motivation, almost anyone will believe almost anything. People will believe a lie because they want to believe it's true, or because they are afraid it might be true. People’s heads are full of knowledge, facts, and beliefs, and most of it is false, yet they think it all true. People can only rarely tell the difference between a lie and the truth, and yet they are confident they can, and so are all the easier to fool." Primordial Rule: "The rule unwritten. It is the secret of all life. It is the essence of life itself. You are a creator and master of your own reality. You ultimately make your own rules." All the Wizard's Rules: [link to sot.wikia.com] |
| TBar1984 User ID: 1254186 United States08/29/2011 03:46 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Saw this on FOX news, so no link yet. Basically, they said the ISS would be abandoned beginning on September 16th through October or even November. The main cause is the lack of supplies because of the crash of the supply rocket in Russia. Quoting: Wizard's First Rule In light of the Elenin / Nibiru theories for the coming fall, one could easily say, "How convenient?" Basically, effective Sep 16, there will be no humans in space. I think I'll go celebrate by watching Apollo 18.  OP IS WRONG, ISS NOT BEING ABANDONED By Sept 16th THERE WILL BE THREE ON THE STATION AFTER THE 16th. Link [link to www.foxnews.com] Why is this Still Pinned? Last Edited by TBar1984 on 08/29/2011 03:47 PM |
| TBar1984 User ID: 1254186 United States08/29/2011 03:51 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I had no idea this was pinned and made it to nine pages. I've been working. Nice discussion so far. Thanks for the pin. Quoting: Wizard's First Rule Here's the Link [link to www.foxnews.com] You WERE WRONG. It's not being Abandoned as of the 16th. Yet This Crap is still Pinned. Thank for the article update. I was not wrong when I posted it. I went by the facts presented at the time. Think about it. My source was everyone's favorite sensationalist news entertainment agency ... FOX. That said, it seems they have clarified things over the last three hours with subsequent articles. The article link you provided does say there is a strong possibility they may have to abandon the ISS if they cannot get the Soyuz manned spacecraft up and running by end of year. That means there is still some merit to the subject. I'll edit the subject to say "possibly." That said, I agree. This thread has served its purpose in raising awareness and can be unpinned now. I might believe you if it's weren't for this line; "In light of the Elenin / Nibiru theories for the coming fall, one could easily say, "How convenient?" Seeing All the recent Elenin / Nibiru BS articles, I think you heard what you wanted, or worse... |
| Wizard's First Rule (OP) User ID: 1026045 United States08/29/2011 04:00 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I had no idea this was pinned and made it to nine pages. I've been working. Nice discussion so far. Thanks for the pin. Quoting: Wizard's First Rule Here's the Link [link to www.foxnews.com] You WERE WRONG. It's not being Abandoned as of the 16th. Yet This Crap is still Pinned. Thank for the article update. I was not wrong when I posted it. I went by the facts presented at the time. Think about it. My source was everyone's favorite sensationalist news entertainment agency ... FOX. That said, it seems they have clarified things over the last three hours with subsequent articles. The article link you provided does say there is a strong possibility they may have to abandon the ISS if they cannot get the Soyuz manned spacecraft up and running by end of year. That means there is still some merit to the subject. I'll edit the subject to say "possibly." That said, I agree. This thread has served its purpose in raising awareness and can be unpinned now. I might believe you if it's weren't for this line; "In light of the Elenin / Nibiru theories for the coming fall, one could easily say, "How convenient?" Seeing All the recent Elenin / Nibiru BS articles, I think you heard what you wanted, or worse... You are taking this way too seriously. What more do you want? I already adjusted the subject line and I asked the thread to be unpinned. I even thanked you for providing the article that shed more light on the matter.  Wizard's Rule #1: "People are stupid. Given proper motivation, almost anyone will believe almost anything. People will believe a lie because they want to believe it's true, or because they are afraid it might be true. People’s heads are full of knowledge, facts, and beliefs, and most of it is false, yet they think it all true. People can only rarely tell the difference between a lie and the truth, and yet they are confident they can, and so are all the easier to fool." Primordial Rule: "The rule unwritten. It is the secret of all life. It is the essence of life itself. You are a creator and master of your own reality. You ultimately make your own rules." All the Wizard's Rules: [link to sot.wikia.com] |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1526669  Italy08/29/2011 04:32 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | someone else just posted a list of things happening recently around the globe. Quoting: WiseManOnceSaid I feel I most re-post them everywhere. Well it is an italian astronomer so that helps at least it's not Nasa saying this. but what about all of this, and could it be possible that Elenin was just a distraction from all the following. This doesn't explain away any of this. Weather Record Tornadoes Record Droubt Record volcanoes As many in one year now, as what use to be a decades total. Record earthquakes Record crop devestation Floods solar flares pipelines all across the country ruptured Meteor showers increasing. Magnetic poles are shifting faster and faster The Solar activity of the sun has changed dramatically Cosmic ray intensity has increased dramatically Bees are dissapearing, and they navigate using a solar compass Mass fish die offs Mass bird deaths. New fault lines awakened in Virginia, & Nevada to name a few. Giant sink holes opening up all around the world. The surface of the earth actually creating giant rips in the earths crust on the surface for all to see. New geysers seen venting in California. What sounds like horns blowing recorded in florida, Russia, etc. The smells of sulfur or fuel being reported in many areas of the world, the latest reports in California. Disturbances in our solar system with storms on Jupter increasing What's the Governments of the world doing? Storing massive amounts of Meals read to eat Sucking up massive amounts of medication, and pharmaceuticals Digging under ground bunkers around the world at a world record setting pace Trillions of dollars dissapearing both from the pentagon, and the from the Federal Reserve. Governments practicing detainment techniques. CIA has relocated it's headquarters to Denver Denver world airport has been turned into a giant subteranian facility. Denver has the biggest underground water treatment and purification center. EPA starts closing down it's library network. GLobal Seed Bank built Bush buys 98,000 acres in paraguay Father already owns 200,000 Hr5122 bypasses the forbidence of US troops operating on US soil In 2001 264 dams needed repair, in 2009 over 1,200 damns across america are in need of repair, and the elites are no longer worried about infrastructure. South Pole Telescope built with infrared capability NSPD-51 Gives power to the president to take over complete and total rule July 2007 Vatican closes library that has been opened for over 500 years. Dutch are preparing for catastrophe, and apocolypse. 2008 3rd infantry's deployed 6,000 us troops on US soil 2011 Space rocks and asteroids are now classified top secret Climategate was used as an explanation of what is happening to the earth, as the changes became more magnetic in nature, it was switched from global warming to climate change. Yellowstone National Park has been having thousands of earthquakes. Chemtrails have been blanketing the earth containing barium, Barium is used for radiation sheilding. Constant media blitz in order to keep the people occupied with one big story after another. Increasing number of shows are now about survival. Media black outs on comet information. Anyone remember the Media hype about Haley's comet Google has blocked out a large area in space next to the constilation of Orion. Fema Camps built Mass coffin storage in Georgia. The propping up of the stock market, at any cost, and any expense, even if it is open fraud! And the very latest abandonment of the Space Station for the next few months!  |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1523015 United States08/29/2011 04:33 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Fluff, huh? Quoting: uscrusader1 A 6000C energetic helium/hydrogen plasma with densities high enough to be electrically conductive(think CME's reaching to earth) that will take us 20 years to get thru. Yeah, we'll probably all just sleep thru it. Let's compare notes in 10 years. There is some legitimate but still unconfirmed speculation that during times when our solar system passes through such "fluff" our heliosphere is compressed to a radius of less than 1 AU that our planet is exposed to a much higher than normal concentration of cosmic rays, resulting in increased cloud formation and dramatic climate changes. The heliosphere is nowhere near being compressed to a 1 AU radius however, these changes take place over thousands of years and pose no threat to us, our children, or our children's children. In summation, it's nothing to worry about on a human timescale. Quoting: Astromut Does your red cross/shield have anything to do with that Brevik guy? |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1523165  Portugal08/29/2011 04:36 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Fluff, huh? Quoting: uscrusader1 A 6000C energetic helium/hydrogen plasma with densities high enough to be electrically conductive(think CME's reaching to earth) that will take us 20 years to get thru. Yeah, we'll probably all just sleep thru it. Let's compare notes in 10 years. There is some legitimate but still unconfirmed speculation that during times when our solar system passes through such "fluff" our heliosphere is compressed to a radius of less than 1 AU that our planet is exposed to a much higher than normal concentration of cosmic rays, resulting in increased cloud formation and dramatic climate changes. The heliosphere is nowhere near being compressed to a 1 AU radius however, these changes take place over thousands of years and pose no threat to us, our children, or our children's children. In summation, it's nothing to worry about on a human timescale. Quoting: Astromut Does your red cross/shield have anything to do with that Brevik guy? Americans....learn some history will you? |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1297814  Germany08/29/2011 04:37 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | How Would NASA & Russia Evacuate the International Space Station? The space station evacuation is one possibility following the failure of the unmanned Russian supply spacecraft just after its Aug. 24 launch — a surprise given the reliable track record of its workhorse Soyuz rocket. The vehicle’s Progress 44 cargo craft, and its 2.9 tons of supplies bound for the International Space Station, crashed in Siberia. An investigation into the cause of the failure is under way, but until the issue is resolved NASA and its Russian partners are delaying upcoming launches to crews and cargo to the space station. The Soyuz rockets used to launch Progress vehicles are similar to ones used to launch crews into orbit, station managers said. [Photos: Russia's Lost Cargo Ship Progress 44] So if a root cause isn't found quickly, they may have to ground manned Soyuz rockets for the time being, forcing the space agencies to leave the $100 billion orbiting laboratory unmanned for the first time since 2001. "The focus of the entire program, and in particular our Russian colleagues, is to determine the cause of the anomaly and to resolve it and to get back to flying safely," said Mike Suffredini, NASA’s space station program manager, during a briefing today (Aug. 29). “We’ll focus on keeping the crews safe. Our next focus is to try to keep the ISS manned." Only once before, after the 2003 space shuttle Columbia disaster, which destroyed that orbiter and its crew, did NASA consider evacuating the International Space Station — a process agency officials call "de-manning." In that case, though, managers decided to continue sending crews to the station on Soyuz rockets until the shuttle was ready to fly again. The space station was designed to be able to operate autonomously, without crew onboard, if it needs to. "If we have to de-man ISS, we do certainly have a safe way to do that as well," Suffredini said. "We’ll try to prevent that if we can." The largest risk of evacuating the station is the possibility that some major component could break, or a significant anomaly could occur, and no astronauts would be available on orbit to fix it. "There is a greater risk of losing ISS when it's unmanned than if it were manned," Suffredini said. "That’s why we made our decision after the Columbia accident to keep it manned, because the risk is not insignificant." ReadMore: [link to www.space.com] What Is Russia's Progress Spaceship? [link to www.lifeslittlemysteries.com] Russia's Rocket Failures Spark Increasing Worry in US [link to www.space.com] Photos: Russian Robot Cargo Ship Progress 44 Lost After Launch [link to www.space.com] Is the International Space Station Worth $100 Billion? [link to www.space.com] |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1526308 Germany08/29/2011 04:59 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Saw this on FOX news, so no link yet. Basically, they said the ISS would be abandoned beginning on September 16th through October or even November. The main cause is the lack of supplies because of the crash of the supply rocket in Russia. Quoting: Wizard's First Rule In light of the Elenin / Nibiru theories for the coming fall, one could easily say, "How convenient?" Basically, effective Sep 16, there will be no humans in space. I think I'll go celebrate by watching Apollo 18. OP IS WRONG, ISS NOT BEING ABANDONED By Sept 16th THERE WILL BE THREE ON THE STATION AFTER THE 16th. Link [link to www.foxnews.com] Why is this Still Pinned? You are correct, but german media says, that all astronauts will leave late oct. or nov. So this thread is still ok for me. Who cares about a month. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1523015 United States08/29/2011 05:03 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Fluff, huh? Quoting: uscrusader1 A 6000C energetic helium/hydrogen plasma with densities high enough to be electrically conductive(think CME's reaching to earth) that will take us 20 years to get thru. Yeah, we'll probably all just sleep thru it. Let's compare notes in 10 years. There is some legitimate but still unconfirmed speculation that during times when our solar system passes through such "fluff" our heliosphere is compressed to a radius of less than 1 AU that our planet is exposed to a much higher than normal concentration of cosmic rays, resulting in increased cloud formation and dramatic climate changes. The heliosphere is nowhere near being compressed to a 1 AU radius however, these changes take place over thousands of years and pose no threat to us, our children, or our children's children. In summation, it's nothing to worry about on a human timescale. Quoting: Astromut Does your red cross/shield have anything to do with that Brevik guy? Americans....learn some history will you? Just wondering why it was selected as his avatar. |
| dogmeat2112 User ID: 1512595 United States08/29/2011 05:08 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Saw this on FOX news, so no link yet. Basically, they said the ISS would be abandoned beginning on September 16th through October or even November. The main cause is the lack of supplies because of the crash of the supply rocket in Russia. Quoting: Wizard's First Rule In light of the Elenin / Nibiru theories for the coming fall, one could easily say, "How convenient?" Basically, effective Sep 16, there will be no humans in space. I think I'll go celebrate by watching Apollo 18. How convenient for them. What happened to the 3 TONS Atlantis just sent up 4 months ago???? If this doesn't convince skeptics, I don't know what else to say then. Yeah, WTF happened to the full years worth of supplies??? I'm convinced! |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 865798 United States08/29/2011 05:15 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Sounds like a great excuse to bring the astro's back home before TEOTWAWKI. Quoting: This is NOT good! 1526691 I saw Sickscent post earlier..Chad what do you indeed think about this development? I was told (and some here remember GLP being told) that this is the exact 'type' of things we would see occurring. But, we shouldn't jump at everything that seems a little odd. But, IMO, this seems a LOT odd. Things add up, and to disregard that we were told that we would begin seeing some of this stuff taking place... I remember Boeing Guys words...he said look for ISS to have no one on it. Of course they would give excuses, and not any 'real' information. So, I am going to wait until ALL crew is removed. When that is a fact, and no one is sitting up there...THAT is unprecedented, and should be examined very closely. |
| TBar1984 User ID: 1254186 United States08/29/2011 05:17 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Saw this on FOX news, so no link yet. Basically, they said the ISS would be abandoned beginning on September 16th through October or even November. The main cause is the lack of supplies because of the crash of the supply rocket in Russia. Quoting: Wizard's First Rule In light of the Elenin / Nibiru theories for the coming fall, one could easily say, "How convenient?" Basically, effective Sep 16, there will be no humans in space. I think I'll go celebrate by watching Apollo 18. OP IS WRONG, ISS NOT BEING ABANDONED By Sept 16th THERE WILL BE THREE ON THE STATION AFTER THE 16th. Link [link to www.foxnews.com] Why is this Still Pinned? You are correct, but german media says, that all astronauts will leave late oct. or nov. So this thread is still ok for me. Who cares about a month. But the FOX article says MORE Astronauts will be going up in Nov. "Russia on Monday delayed the return to Earth of three astronauts. The RIA news agency said those members of the crew would now return to Earth around Sept. 16 instead of Sept. 8 and new crew members would blast off in late October or early November instead of on Sept. 22. "The crew on orbit is doing very well," Suffredini said. But if the Russians are unable to send up a new crew in that time frame, they will consider autonomous operations..." |
| Eggcellent User ID: 1468939 United States08/29/2011 05:19 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Saw this on FOX news, so no link yet. Basically, they said the ISS would be abandoned beginning on September 16th through October or even November. The main cause is the lack of supplies because of the crash of the supply rocket in Russia. Quoting: Wizard's First Rule . In fact at NASA they said this: Astronauts may need to leave the International Space Station if Russian Soyuz rockets remain grounded beyond mid-November, believes NASA. So then, all Russia would have to do is just SAY that because of the investigation into to the failure of the recent mission they just can't possibly be confident about putting anything else up into space before February/March, and then there are the "weather windows" etc. So sorry..... And voila!! The reason that the astronauts need to leave. |
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| rphunter User ID: 1283936 United States08/29/2011 05:34 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | LINEAR ELENIN COMPARISON SINCE NO ONE WILL TELL YOU WHAT GOING ON WITH C 2010 /X1 ELENIN see comet Comet LINEAR (C/1999 S4)breakup in July Aug 2000 HUBBLE JULY 4-7 NUCLEUS BEGINS NON TIDAL BREAK UP! [link to hubblesite.org] HUGE X RAY EMISSION SURVEYED 14-15 JULY Using soft x-ray observations of the bright new comet C/1999 S4 (LINEAR) with the Chandra x-ray observatory, we have detected x-ray line emission created by charge exchange between highly ionized solar wind minor ions and neutral gases in the comet's coma. The emission morphology was symmetrically crescent shaped and extended out to 300,000 kilometers from the nucleus. The emission spectrum contains 6 lines at 320, 400, 490, 560, 600, and 670 electron volts, attributable to electron capture and radiative deexcitation by the solar wind species C+5, C+6, N+7, O+7, and O+8. A contemporaneous 7-day soft x-ray light curve obtained using the Extreme Ultraviolet Explorer demonstrates a large increase in the comet's emission coincident with a strong solar flare on 14 and 15 July 2000. DISINTEGRATION COMPLETE 18-19 JULY [link to www.sciencemag.org] We analyzed photometric measurements and images of comet C/LINEAR before perihelion and after its breakup. Results from our photometry data include a lower limit of 0.44 kilometer for the radius of the nucleus before breakup, and a determination that it was depleted in carbon-chain molecules relative to most other comets. Our imaging and modeling results, which include a constraint on the rotational state of the nucleus, indicate that the disintegration likely started on 18 or 19 July 2000. The total mass detectable in the dust tail after the breakup was 3 × 108 kilograms, comparable to one of the fragments in the Hubble Space Telescope images; we therefore infer that most of the comet's original mass is hidden in remnants between 1 millimeter and 50 meters in diameter. [link to www.sciencemag.org] AUG 5 SHOWS BREAKUP FROM HUBBLE [=30 DAYS OF DISPERSION !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!] [link to hubblesite.org] SAT IMAGE [link to rammb-slider.cira.colostate.edu] IMPACT:Gulf OF Alaska! En [link to yadi.sk (secure)] Ru [link to yadi.sk (secure)] |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1486233  Canada08/29/2011 05:39 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Don't forget all the unusual circumstances around the Russian rocket crash. Page 8 of this thread talks about some: Thread: Windows Blown Out For 60 Miles, What The Hell Was On The Russian Rocket ( Update: GLP finds huge lie in story) (Page 8) I'm still trying to decode two "messages" I think the elite sent with this rocket failure. One has to do with the 12 portrait paintings on board the supply ship and the other with the news, the day following the crash, that 40 lumberjacks returned from the forest "safely" [safely was in quotes]. Just throwing ideas out here. Twelve could represent 12 Israeli tribes or 12 signs of the zodiac. They were destroyed in the explosion. The number 40 may signify a trial or transition period (Noah's flood rained for 40 days; Moses and Jesus were tested for 40 days). So the messages of the lumberjacks could be that a transition period has completed "safely". There is definitely more to this whole story than meets the eye. I do think they want the ISS unmanned and carefully planned for it. |
| Doomamatrix User ID: 1520083 United States08/29/2011 05:40 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Sounds like a great excuse to bring the astro's back home before TEOTWAWKI. Quoting: This is NOT good! 1526691 I saw Sickscent post earlier..Chad what do you indeed think about this development? I was told (and some here remember GLP being told) that this is the exact 'type' of things we would see occurring. But, we shouldn't jump at everything that seems a little odd. But, IMO, this seems a LOT odd. Things add up, and to disregard that we were told that we would begin seeing some of this stuff taking place... I remember Boeing Guys words...he said look for ISS to have no one on it. Of course they would give excuses, and not any 'real' information. So, I am going to wait until ALL crew is removed. When that is a fact, and no one is sitting up there...THAT is unprecedented, and should be examined very closely. Do you remember the thread name on Boeing Guy? (So many "guys" and"dudes" speaking doom here, hard to keep track!) Obamacare: Never has so much been taken away from so many for so few. |
