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Just had a quick question-

I recall long ago researching blood types and there was some research that suggested that blood type does not always follow the rules of genetics. Does this refer to the rhesus factor (+/-) or the ABO subgroups?

Any terms for this for google purposes or links themselves would be helpful :)
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reptillians without the oranugang gene?
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reptillians without the oranugang gene?
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no
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1. blue eyed ones on the west coast of black sea 10.000 years ago
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1. blue eyed ones on the west coast of black sea 10.000 years ago
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no
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1. blue eyed ones on the west coast of black sea 10.000 years ago
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no
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really ?
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Maybe I'm not being clear enough. I'll rephrase.

Is it the rhesus factor or is it the A-B-O factor that does not follow the typical rules associated with inherited genetics?
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I'm thinking it has something to do more with the ABO factor, not the rhesus factor...

Something about how mom or dad's blood type has little or no bearing on where the child's blood type might be (A, B, AB or O)

I think rhesus factor is moreso inherited.

There are terms for this but I can't think of them! It's nagging the heck outta me.
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Maybe I'm not being clear enough. I'll rephrase.

Is it the rhesus factor or is it the A-B-O factor that does not follow the typical rules associated with inherited genetics?
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rhesus
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Maybe I'm not being clear enough. I'll rephrase.

Is it the rhesus factor or is it the A-B-O factor that does not follow the typical rules associated with inherited genetics?
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rhesus
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Yea I'll have to research this a bit more. Thanks for your imput again.
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I'm thinking it has something to do more with the ABO factor, not the rhesus factor...

Something about how mom or dad's blood type has little or no bearing on where the child's blood type might be (A, B, AB or O)

I think rhesus factor is moreso inherited.

There are terms for this but I can't think of them! It's nagging the heck outta me.
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I agree OP AB- people are extremely rare and they are better than the rest of us.. I am O+, what is the significance of that?
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if someone is reading this, can you answer me this:


is my question coming off as retarded? or do people here just always respond to blood type threads blindly without really reading them?
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O neg is the universal donor and can give blood to rh pos and rh neg bloodtypes

the rh neg factor of blood has an unknown origin, most of the rh neg people are found in northern europe coming from the basque area of spain.

rh neg blood is most adaptable at blending in with other blood types, the term blue blood as is referred to as royal comes from rh neg. they have lowever body temperatures, and process oxyegen differently, so if both parents are rh neg then the baby often wont survive (no oxygen in blood, hence blue blood.)

apparently royal bloodlines are rh neg, high percentage of this in eng, ireland, iceland nowadays.

so the ABO factor can change more than rh factor.

does this make sense?
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Rarely can 2 negatives have a positive child, just like how rarely 2 blue eyed people can make a brown eyed child. There are also charts that u can look up to show u what types of ABO blood groups are possile for example B and O can only make B or O children (never could they make an A or AB). Two B's can make B or O childrend and only O's can make O children etc. The same is reversed if you replace the B's with A's vice versa.
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2 positives can have positive or negative children. its only rare for 2 negatives to have positive children
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ok... i finally found what I was looking for

"It is important to be cautious in predicting the ABO blood type of children based on the phenotypes of their parents. This is due to the fact that a third antigen (H) on the surface of red cells can prevent the expected ABO blood type from occurring."

[link to anthro.palomar.edu]
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Rarely can 2 negatives have a positive child, just like how rarely 2 blue eyed people can make a brown eyed child. There are also charts that u can look up to show u what types of ABO blood groups are possile for example B and O can only make B or O children (never could they make an A or AB). Two B's can make B or O childrend and only O's can make O children etc. The same is reversed if you replace the B's with A's vice versa.
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see the link I just posted. This is exactly what I was questioning. Supposidly ABO types are not always directly based on the parents' genes.
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O neg is the universal donor and can give blood to rh pos and rh neg bloodtypes

the rh neg factor of blood has an unknown origin, most of the rh neg people are found in northern europe coming from the basque area of spain.

rh neg blood is most adaptable at blending in with other blood types, the term blue blood as is referred to as royal comes from rh neg. they have lowever body temperatures, and process oxyegen differently, so if both parents are rh neg then the baby often wont survive (no oxygen in blood, hence blue blood.)

apparently royal bloodlines are rh neg, high percentage of this in eng, ireland, iceland nowadays.

so the ABO factor can change more than rh factor.

does this make sense?
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Excellent post! Except for the bolded part, which is absolute bullshit!

It is the O+ offspring of a maternal Rh- and a paternal Rh+ that probably won't survive without either a blood transfusion or Rhogam to the mother (the latter done nowadays). That's because antibodies in the maternal immune system attack the "rhesus" portion as FOREIGN, resulting in SPONTANEOUS ABORTION/MISCARRIAGE.

According to what you wrote above, if two Rh-s (LIKE THE ROYALS/ILLUMINATI) reproduce, their offspring will not survive! That is TOTAL and UTTER BULLSHIT! You also wrote that the baby's blood has NO (ZERO) oxygen in it! Complete horseshit!

The "blue blood" is from a HIGH LEVEL OF COPPER in the blood (think oxidized copper, which is cyan in color).

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ok... i finally found what I was looking for

"It is important to be cautious in predicting the ABO blood type of children based on the phenotypes of their parents. This is due to the fact that a third antigen (H) on the surface of red cells can prevent the expected ABO blood type from occurring."

[link to anthro.palomar.edu]
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Have you read Dr. D'Adamo's blood type diet books? I have, and I have advised several who were on the program. Many times people will inherit a recessive blood type in their family tree (e.g., the type of a grandparent) that does not match the BT of either parent.
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Rarely can 2 negatives have a positive child, just like how rarely 2 blue eyed people can make a brown eyed child. There are also charts that u can look up to show u what types of ABO blood groups are possile for example B and O can only make B or O children (never could they make an A or AB). Two B's can make B or O childrend and only O's can make O children etc. The same is reversed if you replace the B's with A's vice versa.
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see the link I just posted. This is exactly what I was questioning. Supposidly ABO types are not always directly based on the parents' genes.
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There is one rare circumstance when you may have an ABO group that does not match the parents' types which would be with an AB parent and an O parent having an AB child. This should never happen. The child would have to be either an A or B. Rare instances have been found where the AB was located on the same gene and AB and O parents had an AB child. At least that is what I remember from school 35 years ago. No link.
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Rarely can 2 negatives have a positive child, just like how rarely 2 blue eyed people can make a brown eyed child. There are also charts that u can look up to show u what types of ABO blood groups are possile for example B and O can only make B or O children (never could they make an A or AB). Two B's can make B or O childrend and only O's can make O children etc. The same is reversed if you replace the B's with A's vice versa.
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see the link I just posted. This is exactly what I was questioning. Supposidly ABO types are not always directly based on the parents' genes.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1331112


There is one rare circumstance when you may have an ABO group that does not match the parents' types which would be with an AB parent and an O parent having an AB child. This should never happen. The child would have to be either an A or B. Rare instances have been found where the AB was located on the same gene and AB and O parents had an AB child. At least that is what I remember from school 35 years ago. No link.
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thanks for the tip. i'll look this up
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O neg is the universal donor and can give blood to rh pos and rh neg bloodtypes

the rh neg factor of blood has an unknown origin, most of the rh neg people are found in northern europe coming from the basque area of spain.

rh neg blood is most adaptable at blending in with other blood types, the term blue blood as is referred to as royal comes from rh neg. they have lowever body temperatures, and process oxyegen differently, so if both parents are rh neg then the baby often wont survive (no oxygen in blood, hence blue blood.)

apparently royal bloodlines are rh neg, high percentage of this in eng, ireland, iceland nowadays.

so the ABO factor can change more than rh factor.

does this make sense?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1502917



Excellent post! Except for the bolded part, which is absolute bullshit!

It is the O+ offspring of a maternal Rh- and a paternal Rh+ that probably won't survive without either a blood transfusion or Rhogam to the mother (the latter done nowadays). That's because antibodies in the maternal immune system attack the "rhesus" portion as FOREIGN, resulting in SPONTANEOUS ABORTION/MISCARRIAGE.


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WRONG!
I am the O+ offspring of a RH negative mother and RH positive father. I did just fine except that I caused my mother to be terribly ill. At 8 months the docs induced labor.
Next came my brother, O-. Guess what? Because I was born first, he almost died. He is the one who needed the transfusion to live.
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"resulting in SPONTANEOUS ABORTION/MISCARRIAGE"
Nope!
I'm still here......
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if someone is reading this, can you answer me this:


is my question coming off as retarded? or do people here just always respond to blood type threads blindly without really reading them?
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Not retarded at all, and it was very clear. I simply don't know the answer, as I have forgot. I used to know all of the genetic traits from eyes, hair etc.. Most people here are seeming to only know what they've learned FROM here. lol The educational circle here is staggering as you see. The link blood types to specific aliens and shit. lol
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"resulting in SPONTANEOUS ABORTION/MISCARRIAGE"
Nope!
I'm still here......
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No blood transfusion was done to me.
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Wow. I knew of the problems that could transpire with a negative mother, positive baby incompatibility but had NO idea ABO incompatibilities could pose such problems. Very insightful - thank you.
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O neg is the universal donor and can give blood to rh pos and rh neg bloodtypes

the rh neg factor of blood has an unknown origin, most of the rh neg people are found in northern europe coming from the basque area of spain.

rh neg blood is most adaptable at blending in with other blood types, the term blue blood as is referred to as royal comes from rh neg. they have lowever body temperatures, and process oxyegen differently, so if both parents are rh neg then the baby often wont survive (no oxygen in blood, hence blue blood.)

apparently royal bloodlines are rh neg, high percentage of this in eng, ireland, iceland nowadays.

so the ABO factor can change more than rh factor.

does this make sense?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1502917



Excellent post! Except for the bolded part, which is absolute bullshit!

It is the O+ offspring of a maternal Rh- and a paternal Rh+ that probably won't survive without either a blood transfusion or Rhogam to the mother (the latter done nowadays). That's because antibodies in the maternal immune system attack the "rhesus" portion as FOREIGN, resulting in SPONTANEOUS ABORTION/MISCARRIAGE.


 Quoting: SmartestOne


WRONG!
I am the O+ offspring of a RH negative mother and RH positive father. I did just fine except that I caused my mother to be terribly ill. At 8 months the docs induced labor.
Next came my brother, O-. Guess what? Because I was born first, he almost died. He is the one who needed the transfusion to live.
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As illustrated in your case, it is pretty typical that the second pregnancy has a liklier chance of harming the fetus in the event of the mother being negative and the baby being positive morso than with the first pregnancy.
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Okay, I'm type O-. Hubby and both daughters are O+ just like Hubby's entire family.

I needed the Rhogham shot at 6 1/2 months with the eldest, and other than some issues with preterm labor starting at 32 weeks, all was fine. I had to get a second shot of Rhogham after she was born to prevent a reaction in my body from the eldest's blood, but she was just fine since our blood didn't mix until late in labor.

However, after eldest was born, I already had antibodies to the Rh+ marker. This resulted in me loosing one early on. And then miscarrying my youngest's twin at seven weeks.

The barrier between my blood and the youngest's was stronger than it had been between her twin and I, and she made it until I got the Rhogham. Still, she was born a month early, after trying her best to get here since week 32 of the pregnancy. She was very jaundiced, and they sure did jab me with more Rhogham a lot quicker the second time around. She spent a couple of days under the biliruben lights, and a good couple of weeks having to "sun" for twenty minutes or so several times a day before she got a normal color and got to stop with the heel pricking. I'm lucky she didn't have to go through a transfusion, and who knows what would have happened to her if I hadn't gone into labor when I did.

There are several other Rh- women in the family, who've all married Rh+ men, which isn't surprising statistically speaking. And all of us have suffered miscarriages. In fact, I'm the only one who was lucky enough to have more than one child survive birth unless it's among the many "blood kin" scattered across the southern half of the country I don't know from Adam. Yet, if it weren't for modern medicine, I'm pretty sure I wouldn't have either of my daughters because they would have been born a full two months early. (Which I know a child can survive being born at seven months even without medical intervention. My grandfather, born in '31 is proof, but it didn't happen often. He's just stubborn as a mule.)

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