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Best El Hierro Thread On GLP - Canary Islands - ACTIVITY HAS RETURNED - AGAIN!

 
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What makes think La Palma is unstable? My opinion is tha we are exaggerating and focusing on the worst case scenario.
I have posted this before but will do it again so we see another (maybe more realistic) view on this: [link to www.lapalma-tsunami.com]
Please keep it scientific, I don´t say it can´t happen but would rather focus on what is more likely to happen.
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type 'Slope stability in the Canary volcanoes based on geotechnical criteria' into Google and click 'quick view' on the first link shown.

there are THREE threats in the Canaries. La Palma, El Hierro, and Tenerife

volcanic activity under any of them CAN induce a catastrophic slide, and there is activity under or close to two of them at the moment, Tenerife and El Hierro

btw, that link you posted is NOTHING but a hit piece. yes, it's good to see all sides of an argument, but choosing one side over another is silly.

i'm undecided about the ocean basin mega tsunami potential of a slide, but one thing's for certain, it'll be devastating locally, and that in itself would be very VERY bad!
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Again I am not saying it cannot happen, I am not taking sides but I only say you focus on the worst case scenario. And that IS taking side..
It is very unlikely to happen and this whole happening has more interesting sides than some doom scenario.
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Show me how we have not looked at "EVERY SIDE". Nobody is shouting DOOM DOOM DOOM
 Quoting: American Trappers, LLC


Just some quotes from the former page:

This...at 79km deep is what will wake this monster.

Something serious is brewing people.

this entire area is a timebomb

Hierro is a time bomb, as is the entire archipelago. I think we're probably fortunate that Hierro has been the target of all this acivity instead of one of the most unstable islands like La Palma.


This is very suggestive! as if this is very likely to happen while it is just a theory.
And a large part of the thread is about possible landslides. Again POSSIBLE but in reality the chance that it doesn´t happen is far more likely.
Last time I expressed this opinion I got banned. I live at La Palma, nearer then anyone here and just because of another opinion in this you don´t let me enrich this thread.
I hope it is different this time.
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Again I am not saying it cannot happen, I am not taking sides but I only say you focus on the worst case scenario. And that IS taking side..
It is very unlikely to happen and this whole happening has more interesting sides than some doom scenario.
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Show me how we have not looked at "EVERY SIDE". Nobody is shouting DOOM DOOM DOOM
 Quoting: American Trappers, LLC


You have not looked at every side. Whenever anyone disagrees with the tsunami theory they are jumped on, whenever anyone disagrees with you they are either banned from your thread or jumped on for having a differing opinion, I have even seen you rant at someone for questioning you even when they showed you evidence from Geologists to back up their side of the argument, I also witnessed you telling a poster you reported them to the Mods because they questioned you. Of course those posts are now gone because you deleted them before changing your username.

I agree with the above poster, this is a very biased thread and you ARE pushing a doomy agenda.
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You are truly crazy. You know that? Either you're crazy, or you're just a liar. I'm giving you the benefit of the doubt here and I'll just call you crazy.
 Quoting: American Trappers, LLC


Oh, I'm crazy?

Which part is a lie ?
Anyone who religiously follows this thread knows what I said IS the truth.
I will have a look through the thread tomorrow when I get a chance and quote what I can to prove I am right, if you haven't deleted it all ... even the picture of the conversation between the person you belittled and AVCAN who said that you were wrong ( Canaries affecting Iceland ... remember ? ).

Don't call me a liar you hypocrite.
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Could you please explain why then the other islands are showing release of energy.

As an example look at this graph of Fuerteventura yesterday and as it was Sunday you cannot blame it on roadworks as you live on La Palma you will know then that Sunday is a day of rest.

Look at the red line on the second link.

[link to www.02.ign.es]


[link to www.02.ign.es]

Something is happening around the Canary Islands it is just a waiting game for all of us.
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Show me how we have not looked at "EVERY SIDE". Nobody is shouting DOOM DOOM DOOM
 Quoting: American Trappers, LLC


You have not looked at every side. Whenever anyone disagrees with the tsunami theory they are jumped on, whenever anyone disagrees with you they are either banned from your thread or jumped on for having a differing opinion, I have even seen you rant at someone for questioning you even when they showed you evidence from Geologists to back up their side of the argument, I also witnessed you telling a poster you reported them to the Mods because they questioned you. Of course those posts are now gone because you deleted them before changing your username.

I agree with the above poster, this is a very biased thread and you ARE pushing a doomy agenda.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24224055


You are truly crazy. You know that? Either you're crazy, or you're just a liar. I'm giving you the benefit of the doubt here and I'll just call you crazy.
 Quoting: American Trappers, LLC


Oh, I'm crazy?

Which part is a lie ?
Anyone who religiously follows this thread knows what I said IS the truth.
I will have a look through the thread tomorrow when I get a chance and quote what I can to prove I am right, if you haven't deleted it all ... even the picture of the conversation between the person you belittled and AVCAN who said that you were wrong ( Canaries affecting Iceland ... remember ? ).

Don't call me a liar you hypocrite.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24260393


INFACT, fyi, AVCAN did NOT say that Idgits was wrong about there being a connection between Iceland and the Canary Islands...

The said page with conversations you are looking are on page 263...

On that page, there is a link to a screenshot of the conversation with AVCAN by 2 members of AVCAN that states more studies & research is needed..they say they can't say if it is true or not until they have the data that proves if there is a connection or not...Like I said, They don't say that Idgits is WRONG...

I can't link to the screenshot as the site hosting the image has recently been banned from GLP, the link however is still there on page 263, check it out yourself...

Before sprouting your mouth out, I suggest you go through the thread first and get your facts right before saying things that are simply NOT true..

The proof is on page 263, a tiny*pic link, go see for yourself...If you still want to believe that your right that Avcan said that Idgits was wrong, prove it to me....but you won't be able to as they didn't say that...
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You have not looked at every side. Whenever anyone disagrees with the tsunami theory they are jumped on, whenever anyone disagrees with you they are either banned from your thread or jumped on for having a differing opinion, I have even seen you rant at someone for questioning you even when they showed you evidence from Geologists to back up their side of the argument, I also witnessed you telling a poster you reported them to the Mods because they questioned you. Of course those posts are now gone because you deleted them before changing your username.

I agree with the above poster, this is a very biased thread and you ARE pushing a doomy agenda.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24224055


You are truly crazy. You know that? Either you're crazy, or you're just a liar. I'm giving you the benefit of the doubt here and I'll just call you crazy.
 Quoting: American Trappers, LLC


Oh, I'm crazy?

Which part is a lie ?
Anyone who religiously follows this thread knows what I said IS the truth.
I will have a look through the thread tomorrow when I get a chance and quote what I can to prove I am right, if you haven't deleted it all ... even the picture of the conversation between the person you belittled and AVCAN who said that you were wrong ( Canaries affecting Iceland ... remember ? ).

Don't call me a liar you hypocrite.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24260393


INFACT, fyi, AVCAN did NOT say that Idgits was wrong about there being a connection between Iceland and the Canary Islands...

The said page with conversations you are looking are on page 263...

On that page, there is a link to a screenshot of the conversation with AVCAN by 2 members of AVCAN that states more studies & research is needed..they say they can't say if it is true or not until they have the data that proves if there is a connection or not...Like I said, They don't say that Idgits is WRONG...

I can't link to the screenshot as the site hosting the image has recently been banned from GLP, the link however is still there on page 263, check it out yourself...

Before sprouting your mouth out, I suggest you go through the thread first and get your facts right before saying things that are simply NOT true..

The proof is on page 263, a tiny*pic link, go see for yourself...If you still want to believe that your right that Avcan said that Idgits was wrong, prove it to me....but you won't be able to as they didn't say that...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24354927


Also, the person you say that Idgits apparently belittled actually apologized after the screenshot of the conversation was posted...

So, you have no basis in arguing with Idgit's/AT about the connection subject...

I personally think you are a shill who is just trying to cause disruption and this time, it hasn't worked.....
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Thank you
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No worries AT....

Anytime..ohyeah
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You are truly crazy. You know that? Either you're crazy, or you're just a liar. I'm giving you the benefit of the doubt here and I'll just call you crazy.
 Quoting: American Trappers, LLC


Oh, I'm crazy?

Which part is a lie ?
Anyone who religiously follows this thread knows what I said IS the truth.
I will have a look through the thread tomorrow when I get a chance and quote what I can to prove I am right, if you haven't deleted it all ... even the picture of the conversation between the person you belittled and AVCAN who said that you were wrong ( Canaries affecting Iceland ... remember ? ).

Don't call me a liar you hypocrite.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24260393


INFACT, fyi, AVCAN did NOT say that Idgits was wrong about there being a connection between Iceland and the Canary Islands...

The said page with conversations you are looking are on page 263...

On that page, there is a link to a screenshot of the conversation with AVCAN by 2 members of AVCAN that states more studies & research is needed..they say they can't say if it is true or not until they have the data that proves if there is a connection or not...Like I said, They don't say that Idgits is WRONG...

I can't link to the screenshot as the site hosting the image has recently been banned from GLP, the link however is still there on page 263, check it out yourself...

Before sprouting your mouth out, I suggest you go through the thread first and get your facts right before saying things that are simply NOT true..

The proof is on page 263, a tiny*pic link, go see for yourself...If you still want to believe that your right that Avcan said that Idgits was wrong, prove it to me....but you won't be able to as they didn't say that...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24354927


Also, the person you say that Idgits apparently belittled actually apologized after the screenshot of the conversation was posted...

So, you have no basis in arguing with Idgit's/AT about the connection subject...

I personally think you are a shill who is just trying to cause disruption and this time, it hasn't worked.....
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24354927


Your reading comprehension is awful.

AVCAN said, and I quote "It would be too risky to pretend such connections without proper data"
I would say that disagrees with what Idgits said.


Also I said you probably wouldn't find many posts of his as he deleted them.

Here is one of his outbursts to someones question.
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Do you have reference to back up that claim?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18124769


LoL there's 261 pages of raw science here friend. Mostly amatuer, some professional.
 Quoting: Idgits


There is NO professional input here at all.

I'll ask again, do you have reference to your claim?

Any reliable link will do, ty.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18124842


Please take your idiotic, ignorant, foolish stupidity out of here. We have no room for self centered, bull shit slingers like you in here. We've been visited by many professionals in the 9 months or so that this thread has been active. Like I said...there have been many claims, proofs, evidences offered, etc., about this subject in these pages. If you're not willing to comb over it and look for it, then you're just as spoiled as you are incompetent.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 15368686


Now, before you go spouting your mouth off perhaps knowing the full conversation would aid you, but you don't because most of it apart from where he apologised has been deleted !! I read it all, he is a liar and a foul mouthed person when someone questions him.
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Thank you
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No worries AT....

Anytime..ohyeah
 Quoting: Gizzie 24370899


Oh it's the poster who was adamant that Nabro was not erupting.

Thought it might be you.
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Oh, I'm crazy?

Which part is a lie ?
Anyone who religiously follows this thread knows what I said IS the truth.
I will have a look through the thread tomorrow when I get a chance and quote what I can to prove I am right, if you haven't deleted it all ... even the picture of the conversation between the person you belittled and AVCAN who said that you were wrong ( Canaries affecting Iceland ... remember ? ).

Don't call me a liar you hypocrite.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24260393


INFACT, fyi, AVCAN did NOT say that Idgits was wrong about there being a connection between Iceland and the Canary Islands...

The said page with conversations you are looking are on page 263...

On that page, there is a link to a screenshot of the conversation with AVCAN by 2 members of AVCAN that states more studies & research is needed..they say they can't say if it is true or not until they have the data that proves if there is a connection or not...Like I said, They don't say that Idgits is WRONG...

I can't link to the screenshot as the site hosting the image has recently been banned from GLP, the link however is still there on page 263, check it out yourself...

Before sprouting your mouth out, I suggest you go through the thread first and get your facts right before saying things that are simply NOT true..

The proof is on page 263, a tiny*pic link, go see for yourself...If you still want to believe that your right that Avcan said that Idgits was wrong, prove it to me....but you won't be able to as they didn't say that...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24354927


Also, the person you say that Idgits apparently belittled actually apologized after the screenshot of the conversation was posted...

So, you have no basis in arguing with Idgit's/AT about the connection subject...

I personally think you are a shill who is just trying to cause disruption and this time, it hasn't worked.....
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24354927


Your reading comprehension is awful.

AVCAN said, and I quote "It would be too risky to pretend such connections without proper data"
I would say that disagrees with what Idgits said.


Also I said you probably wouldn't find many posts of his as he deleted them.

Here is one of his outbursts to someones question.
...


LoL there's 261 pages of raw science here friend. Mostly amatuer, some professional.
 Quoting: Idgits


There is NO professional input here at all.

I'll ask again, do you have reference to your claim?

Any reliable link will do, ty.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18124842


Please take your idiotic, ignorant, foolish stupidity out of here. We have no room for self centered, bull shit slingers like you in here. We've been visited by many professionals in the 9 months or so that this thread has been active. Like I said...there have been many claims, proofs, evidences offered, etc., about this subject in these pages. If you're not willing to comb over it and look for it, then you're just as spoiled as you are incompetent.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 15368686


Now, before you go spouting your mouth off perhaps knowing the full conversation would aid you, but you don't because most of it apart from where he apologised has been deleted !! I read it all, he is a liar and a foul mouthed person when someone questions him.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24224041


You're on a fool's errand. You're not going to capitulate any positive response from reasonable people as your argument is unreasonable. You have TRIED to make your case, you have failed, now I am done with this thread except for reference and record. I don't care what you think about the previous interaction. I could care less that you got ass hurt because your rediculous accusations got shot down and you got banned for being nothing more than a shill, attempting to block the analysis of science and events affiliated with Hierro. We did a great job going through the evidence, there are quality people here...and you are not one of them. Gizzie, let this fool die in his pursuits of attention and foul. He will attain no compromise from me and his efforts are futile because truth and evidence marks the day. For some reason he has a wild hair up his ass to cause issues and separation when division is the last thing any of us have caused in this thread. Let him go his way and we will go ours.
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There has just been a 7.2 EQ Colombia.

The link below shows the EQ activity etc the week before this.


[link to www.volcanodiscovery.com]

El Hierro has shown much more EQ activity than this !!!!!
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The scientific meeting the night of the volcanoes in Fuencaliente, has served to contrast such divergent positions on the volcanology in La Palma as Simon Day, who presented the model of the catastrophe that would cause the slippage of Cumbre Vieja or, on the contrary, the proposal of the prestigious Spanish geologist Luis González de Vallejo, who defends the "great stability" of this volcanic edificeposition much less impact media as above, but with a solid scientific basis;Vallejo González was overwhelming to the several hundred people who gathered in Fuencaliente and stressed that the building Cumbre Vieja is "very stable", even more than the Teide-Pico Viejo, with a payback period of this phenomenon which was 80,000 years. This fixes one of the uncertainties generated by the theory of Simon Day, which is unable to forward a time frame to the collapse that forecasts of this volcano, i.e., that according to the British scientist could be this year or within several thousand years. In fact, specified that major landslides in the Canary Islands and in the Atlantic Islands generally occur because they grow very fast on a very weak base, which tends to give up due to lack of stability. In the case of Cumbre Vieja, estimated that still remain you more than a thousand meters so lost that stability and a large landslide might occur.Lizards along with coralThe Complutense University geologist stressed that this conclusion responds to scientific evidence, not to the development of theories, in a clear allusion to Day. González de Vallejo has participated in a study that is still in phase of publication and that goes to show for the first time that in the Canary Islands have been mega-tsunami (giant waves of more than 50 meters) and the causes that generated them.Among the conclusions is that in the Canary Islands even though there was evidence of the existence of large landslides that caused mega tsunamis to come into contact with the sea, now have confirmed scientifically, to discover for the first time in the Islands 'tsunami deposit', that were not known until now."There have been many landslides (La Orotava, new Summit, the Gulf) in the Canary Islands, but fortunately we have found deposits of tsunamis, because if not continue at the level of speculation", explained. The places where you have made these findings are in Agaete (Gran Canaria); Teno (Tenerife); and high stone (Lanzarote). It is of "huge tsunami deposits, probably the best preserved and most complete in the world". Scientists have found in these locations fauna marina along with continental on high surfaces. "We found lizards along with corals," he explained.A few tsunamis have much seniority and produced by landslides resulting from the fact that the Islands 'grow to extremely fast speeds".

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The scientific meeting the night of the volcanoes in Fuencaliente, has served to contrast such divergent positions on the volcanology in La Palma as Simon Day, who presented the model of the catastrophe that would cause the slippage of Cumbre Vieja or, on the contrary, the proposal of the prestigious Spanish geologist Luis González de Vallejo, who defends the "great stability" of this volcanic edificeposition much less impact media as above, but with a solid scientific basis;Vallejo González was overwhelming to the several hundred people who gathered in Fuencaliente and stressed that the building Cumbre Vieja is "very stable", even more than the Teide-Pico Viejo, with a payback period of this phenomenon which was 80,000 years. This fixes one of the uncertainties generated by the theory of Simon Day, which is unable to forward a time frame to the collapse that forecasts of this volcano, i.e., that according to the British scientist could be this year or within several thousand years. In fact, specified that major landslides in the Canary Islands and in the Atlantic Islands generally occur because they grow very fast on a very weak base, which tends to give up due to lack of stability. In the case of Cumbre Vieja, estimated that still remain you more than a thousand meters so lost that stability and a large landslide might occur.Lizards along with coralThe Complutense University geologist stressed that this conclusion responds to scientific evidence, not to the development of theories, in a clear allusion to Day. González de Vallejo has participated in a study that is still in phase of publication and that goes to show for the first time that in the Canary Islands have been mega-tsunami (giant waves of more than 50 meters) and the causes that generated them.Among the conclusions is that in the Canary Islands even though there was evidence of the existence of large landslides that caused mega tsunamis to come into contact with the sea, now have confirmed scientifically, to discover for the first time in the Islands 'tsunami deposit', that were not known until now."There have been many landslides (La Orotava, new Summit, the Gulf) in the Canary Islands, but fortunately we have found deposits of tsunamis, because if not continue at the level of speculation", explained. The places where you have made these findings are in Agaete (Gran Canaria); Teno (Tenerife); and high stone (Lanzarote). It is of "huge tsunami deposits, probably the best preserved and most complete in the world". Scientists have found in these locations fauna marina along with continental on high surfaces. "We found lizards along with corals," he explained.A few tsunamis have much seniority and produced by landslides resulting from the fact that the Islands 'grow to extremely fast speeds".

[link to www.diariodeavisos.com]
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Thanks for sharing, so basically Cumbre Vieja is much more stable then the overhyped youtube videos claim.
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1167952 30/09/2012 16:56:13 27.7684 -18.0848 10.3 1.3 mbLg W FRONTERA.IHI - El Hierro
1167976 30/09/2012 21:30:13 27.7188 -18.1308 27.8 1.0 mbLg SW FRONTERA.IHI - El Hierro

1167977 01/10/2012 01:24:25 27.7931 -18.0821 10.4 1.0 mbLg NW FRONTERA.IHI - El Hierro
1167979 01/10/2012 02:40:20 27.6676 -17.9774 14.5 0.7 mbLg S EL PINAR.IHI - El Hierro
1167980 01/10/2012 03:26:05 27.7626 -18.0922 10.4 1.3 mbLg W FRONTERA.IHI - El Hierro
1167984 01/10/2012 05:44:50 27.7562 -18.0215 10.0 0.6 mbLg W FRONTERA.IHI - El Hierro
1168074 01/10/2012 17:06:06 27.6724 -18.0683 17.1 1.3 mbLg SW EL PINAR.IHI - El Hierro

1168075 01/10/2012 17:57:58 27.7721 -18.0835 10.2 1.9 mbLg W FRONTERA.IHI - El Hierro
1168082 01/10/2012 19:54:10 27.7362 -18.0163 12.0 1.1 mbLg SW FRONTERA.IHI - El Hierro
1168076 01/10/2012 19:54:33 27.7246 -18.0267 10.5 1.7 mbLg SW FRONTERA.IHI - El Hierro
1168078 01/10/2012 19:59:34 27.7281 -18.0204 11.0 1.7 mbLg SW FRONTERA.IHI- El Hierro

1168084 01/10/2012 20:29:23 27.7372 -18.0106 14 1.7 4 SW FRONTERA
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Today taking 4455 earthquakes located by IGN in so far in year 2012 in the Canarian Islands, including today's 4: 1 to tenerife to 8 km deep and very close together 3 N to N of sabinosa in the ejambre of the Gulf in the iron about 10 km of depth, although in CHIE are many moreThere are enough microseismicity, if checked any more will come out (Henry)





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A swarm of earthquakes has started since midnight around Tenerife ????


1168922 07/10/2012 00:49:49 28.2723 -16.7508 48 1.7 3 SE SANTIAGO DEL TEIDE.ITF

1168943 07/10/2012 00:50:58 28.3067 -16.8173 54 1.1 3 NW SANTIAGO DEL TEIDE.ITF

1168927 07/10/2012 00:59:30 28.4420 -16.8504 58 1.2 3 N BUENAVISTA DEL NORTE.ITF

1168939 07/10/2012 01:01:28 28.4257 -16.8517 73 0.8 3 N BUENAVISTA DEL NORTE.ITF

1168941 07/10/2012 01:13:50 28.3686 16.8851 72 0.8 3 W BUENAVISTA DEL NORTE.ITF

1168942 07/10/2012 01:25:20 28.3747-16.8650 60 1.0 3 W BUENAVISTA DEL NORTE.ITF

1168935 07/10/2012 02:01:39 28.3207 -16.7965 48 1.2 3 NE SANTIAGO DEL TEIDE.ITF

1168950 07/10/2012 02:03:20 28.1400 -16.6811 61 1.0 3 N ARONA.ITF
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A swarm of earthquakes has started since midnight around Tenerife ????


1168922 07/10/2012 00:49:49 28.2723 -16.7508 48 1.7 3 SE SANTIAGO DEL TEIDE.ITF

1168943 07/10/2012 00:50:58 28.3067 -16.8173 54 1.1 3 NW SANTIAGO DEL TEIDE.ITF

1168927 07/10/2012 00:59:30 28.4420 -16.8504 58 1.2 3 N BUENAVISTA DEL NORTE.ITF

1168939 07/10/2012 01:01:28 28.4257 -16.8517 73 0.8 3 N BUENAVISTA DEL NORTE.ITF

1168941 07/10/2012 01:13:50 28.3686 16.8851 72 0.8 3 W BUENAVISTA DEL NORTE.ITF

1168942 07/10/2012 01:25:20 28.3747-16.8650 60 1.0 3 W BUENAVISTA DEL NORTE.ITF

1168935 07/10/2012 02:01:39 28.3207 -16.7965 48 1.2 3 NE SANTIAGO DEL TEIDE.ITF

1168950 07/10/2012 02:03:20 28.1400 -16.6811 61 1.0 3 N ARONA.ITF
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On this map from Avcan the purple circles show all the earthquakes on Tenerife since midnight (today).

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On this map from Avcan the purple circles show all the earthquakes on Tenerife since midnight (today).

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Thats a lot in just a few hours..
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I have lived in the Canary Islands for the last thirteen years and I have never seen so much Volcanic activity thats been happening over the last year.

Its said whats happening on El Hierro does not affect the other islands but I am not so sure that this is correct.

Just look at all the EQ'S in Tenerife this morning .

There was an unusual EQ a 2.8 off the coast of Fuuerteventura yesterday and there have been many EQ'S around all the islands over the last months.

Were this is going only Mother Nature knows !!!!!
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I have lived in the Canary Islands for the last thirteen years and I have never seen so much Volcanic activity thats been happening over the last year.

Its said whats happening on El Hierro does not affect the other islands but I am not so sure that this is correct.

Just look at all the EQ'S in Tenerife this morning .

There was an unusual EQ a 2.8 off the coast of Fuuerteventura yesterday and there have been many EQ'S around all the islands over the last months.

Were this is going only Mother Nature knows !!!!!
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Did you monitor the activity all these years, or did you start following it lately? Don´t get me wrong, not ot be cynical but sometimes I think with internet people just get more information then we did before. I mean the Canary Islands are volcanic island and the hotspot has always been under them. Most locals I know are not worried at all, they are used to this. Last eruption here at La Palma was a daytrip for the locals. We have a lot of volcans so pressure can and will be relieved somewhere sometimes.
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Did you monitor the activity all these years, or did you start following it lately? Don´t get me wrong, not ot be cynical but sometimes I think with internet people just get more information then we did before. I mean the Canary Islands are volcanic island and the hotspot has always been under them. Most locals I know are not worried at all, they are used to this. Last eruption here at La Palma was a daytrip for the locals. We have a lot of volcans so pressure can and will be relieved somewhere sometimes.

I really think you need to take your head out of the sand and maybe the locals should start to worry and realise what is happening. The internet is a great tool to look back and compare whats been happening around the Canary islands.

Earthquakes Around The Canary islands info from IGN.es.

Jan to Dec 2000 10 earthquakes .

Jan to Dec 2001 38 earthquakes

Jan to Dec 2002 78 earthquakes

Jan to Dec 2003 118 earthquakes

Jan to Dec 2004 230 earthquakes

Jan to Dec 2005 210 earthquakes

Jan to Dec 2006 106 earthquakes.

Not one of these quakes were registered from El Hierro .

To date there have been nearly 5000 earthquakes already in El Hierro and many more around the surrounding islands .

To answer your question I dont really need to comment the figures speak for themselves.
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Did you monitor the activity all these years, or did you start following it lately? Don´t get me wrong, not ot be cynical but sometimes I think with internet people just get more information then we did before. I mean the Canary Islands are volcanic island and the hotspot has always been under them. Most locals I know are not worried at all, they are used to this. Last eruption here at La Palma was a daytrip for the locals. We have a lot of volcans so pressure can and will be relieved somewhere sometimes.

I really think you need to take your head out of the sand and maybe the locals should start to worry and realise what is happening. The internet is a great tool to look back and compare whats been happening around the Canary islands.

Earthquakes Around The Canary islands info from IGN.es.

Jan to Dec 2000 10 earthquakes .

Jan to Dec 2001 38 earthquakes

Jan to Dec 2002 78 earthquakes

Jan to Dec 2003 118 earthquakes

Jan to Dec 2004 230 earthquakes

Jan to Dec 2005 210 earthquakes

Jan to Dec 2006 106 earthquakes.

Not one of these quakes were registered from El Hierro .

To date there have been nearly 5000 earthquakes already in El Hierro and many more around the surrounding islands .

To answer your question I dont really need to comment the figures speak for themselves.
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Well said !
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Did you monitor the activity all these years, or did you start following it lately? Don´t get me wrong, not ot be cynical but sometimes I think with internet people just get more information then we did before. I mean the Canary Islands are volcanic island and the hotspot has always been under them. Most locals I know are not worried at all, they are used to this. Last eruption here at La Palma was a daytrip for the locals. We have a lot of volcans so pressure can and will be relieved somewhere sometimes.

I really think you need to take your head out of the sand and maybe the locals should start to worry and realise what is happening. The internet is a great tool to look back and compare whats been happening around the Canary islands.

Earthquakes Around The Canary islands info from IGN.es.

Jan to Dec 2000 10 earthquakes .

Jan to Dec 2001 38 earthquakes

Jan to Dec 2002 78 earthquakes

Jan to Dec 2003 118 earthquakes

Jan to Dec 2004 230 earthquakes

Jan to Dec 2005 210 earthquakes

Jan to Dec 2006 106 earthquakes.

Not one of these quakes were registered from El Hierro .

To date there have been nearly 5000 earthquakes already in El Hierro and many more around the surrounding islands .

To answer your question I dont really need to comment the figures speak for themselves.
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I agree things are active, but why don´t you answer my question? This doesn´t necesarely mean things are going to escalate (my prediction this thread will be dead in a few months). As said this happened before during the history of the archipel and only very few times escalated into a real threat.
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Do you really read what you write your statement :

,, this does not mean things may esculate,,

is beyond belief as day by day month by mont things are esculating more and more .

Thirteen years ago up until July 2011 there was no need for me or the islanders on El Hierro La Palma La Gomera Gran Canaria or Tenerife to read the news about El Hierro or read the Avcan Facebook page or look at the graphs of IGN or read earthquake report BECAUSE nothing was happening.

BUT since July 2011 things have changed Magma is on the move under all the Canary Islands (can be confirmed by looking at the daily graphs on IGN ).

Over 5000 earthquakes since July 2012 in El Hierro is not normal and these are happening North South East and West of the island on land and in the surrounding sea.

El Hierro inflating by 24cms is also not normal.

If you have the evidence that all this is quite normal and we can all turned a blind eye because this is just normal occurance for El Hierro please enlighten us all.
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Just to refresh your mind some reports and maps from the last week:

,,Many LPs in the graphics herrenas in these last hours. No doubt something fluid is moving and at more shallow depths that those reflect the registered events. The reason is very simple, an LP can be located accurately in its approach if lacks a seismic array full and very trained, thing that I have serious doubts have now. So will have to rely on other elements more worldly and less scientific, as the sounds, smells, vibration, dizziness, taste of the water, bugs, etc... that can help us in early precursors to any eruption. Undoubtedly, when this becomes more evident, will be accompanied by very steady microseismicity and at more shallow depths strongest signals, between 1 and 3 km on average. At this time, and after seeing the appearance of seismic swarms deep under the dorsal West of Tenerife and some events under La Palma, as well as others in other islands or deep in the ocean next to the Canary Islands, seems to me much more important that we have an optimal warning seismic network, supplemented with other gas metering stationsas well as a geodesic network independent and up-to-date at the moment, to ensure at least from the point of view of science, makes every effort to monitor, study and prevent the risk inherent in the volcanic orogeny of our archipelago. I think that we do not have this, neglect of the administrations, that is very clear, but all administrations, the here and the there. We cannot allow that press is always to 3,000 kms because the worst when you get the time is late for some. We need now more than ever, that all accept the volcanic reality of Canary Islands and the risk that the risk, which is now more danger than ever that neglect, lack of means, by the manifest stupidity of many politicians that hides the head under the wing waiting for others to come to the problem.,,

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Well, let´s see in a few months, you might be right that something can happen. But I think it will erupt again at the bottom of the ocean. I will keep on following this thread and will admit if I´m wrong. Only thing I´m saying is (again) things will not necesarely escalate into a dangerous situation. Experience learns us that all the "recent" eruptions were not threatening for us.
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I dont think its a matter of you being wrong its a matter of great importance that we are all kept fully informed of whats happening and that the islanders are kept fully upto date just in case the emergeny services need to take over.

IMO its also important the islanders on La Palma and La Gomera keep their wits about themselves and do not just bury their heads in the sand because this is real and happening at the moment.
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On the Avcan Facebook page there is a discussion at themoment about the erruption in 1982 of the Chichon Volcano in Mexico where the goverment thought that decreased activity meant there was no danger of an erruption.

,,During one week (28 March-4 April 1982), three powerful explosive eruptions (VEI 5) of El Chichón Volcano caused the worst volcanic disaster in Mexico’s recorded history. Pyroclastic flows and surges obliterated nine villages, killing about 2,000 people, and ashfalls downwind posed socio-economic hardships for many thousands of inhabitants of the States of Chiapas and Tabasco. The unexpected and vigorous eruption of 28 caused a hasty, confused evacuation of most villagers in the area. Activity was greatly diminished the next five days, and then the most powerful and lethal eruptions occurred 3-4 April—tragically, after many evacuees were allowed by authorities to return home. Unfortunately, the eruptions came as an almost total surprise for scientists and government authorities, effectively precluding opportunities to implement timely mitigative countermeasures. During the months before eruption onset, fumarolic activity increased and inhabitants living close to the volcano felt occasional earthquakes, prompting the Chiapas government to request help from the Federal government. Both the Chiapas and Federal governmental actions were slow, and the requested assistance came after the volcano erupted. Perhaps the most important lesson learned from the disastrous outcome at El Chichón is that its decreased activity (29 March-2 April) should not have been assumed by the senior scientist on site—and the military authorities acting on his advice—to signal the end of eruption. While the 1982 eruptions caused a national tragedy, they also fostered multidisciplinary studies of eruptive phenomena, not only at El Chichón but also other explosive volcanoes in the world.,,

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Tremor is back.

Should be somewhere on ign.es but my fw wont let me get there ;)

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