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El Hierro Volcano : Green pre-alert – 27 earthquakes on August 15 (until 22:50) !

[link to earthquake-report.com]
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Good Morning all.....

Update 16/08 – 09:50 UTC

- 1 earthquake has to be added since our latest update (07:29 – 11 km depth – Magnitude M 1.5)


Very important Update 16/08 – 08:19 UTC

– A new earthquake swarm has started below El Hierro
- For the 3th day in a row the number of earthquakes are fundamentally increasing below El Hierro. Although not official, we think that speaking of a new earthquake swarm is the only right way of describing the current set of earthquakes.
- No less than 26 earthquakes occurred this morning (from midnight UTC until 07:00 AM)
- The majority of the earthquakes are still weak, but the M2.2 from early this morning was the strongest in a while and the Magnitude pattern tends to become stronger every couple of hours.
- The CHIE seismogram is not showing a lot of action, but the M2.2 can well be seen. CHIE is not the best station at the moment to show the seismic events at his best.
- The depth is continuing around the 10 to 12 km which is a complete difference from the July swarm, but still far away from an eruption. More seismicity at lesser depths is needed to create a pre-eruptive condition. Newt to seismicity, we have also the gas analysis, the deformation, etc who will have to confirm if the present swarm will end in an eruption. The magma pressure should be powerful enough to find his way up.
- We do not know how many University of Nagoya GPS stations are still working, but we know for sure that FRON station still works and shows a vertical increase of many mm, which sounds normal after the present set of increasing earthquakes in the area.
- A reason for concern at this time should be the location of the seismicity (El Golfo Bay and Sabinosa area – including the cliffs south of Sabinosa). Landslides and rockfall may become dangerous at Magnitudes from M4 and up.

[link to earthquake-report.com]
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At 12.42 and 13.12 two strong quakes!
[link to elhierro1.blogspot.de] (German so you might need to use GT)
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Update 16/08 – 13:37 UTC
- 5 more earthquakes in between M0.6 and M1.2 and at depths in between 10 and &é km

Update 16/08 – 11:53 UTC
- We have to continue bringing updates on the seismicity below the island.
4 more earthquakes bringing the total on 32 today. Magnitudes from M1.0 until M1.5. Depths 10-11 km. IGN has updated his list up to 08:30 UTC
- At right a small map with the epicenters of a number of the latest earthquakes.

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This is DEFINITELY kicking back up. [link to www.ign.es] Looks like they're almost all shallower than average.
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This is DEFINITELY kicking back up. [link to www.ign.es] Looks like they're almost all shallower than average.
 Quoting: Idgits


Yes and the concern over landslides seems to be growing.
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Quite a few continuing updates on earthquake-report

Update 16/08 – 16:25 UTC
- 3 more earthquakes from M0.9 to M1.1 at a depth of 11 to 12 km (12:25 to 13:47 UTC)
- Maybe IGN could take a few courses in press reporting at GNS Science New Zealand. If an important new swarm starts, like the one today (even with weak earthquakes), an experienced volcanologist may write 5 sentences in explaining what the opinion of the organization is. Why does a body like Pevolca is to be used for volcanology ? If i would live in Sabinosa, i would love to hear a few words if continuous quakes are occurring below my house.

[link to earthquake-report.com]

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Still more updates from earthquake-report

Update 16/08 – 23:31 UTC
- So far IGN has listed 45 earthquakes today. We see on the seismogram that there are definitely some more quakes later on. They will probably be listed tomorrow morning.

Update 16/08 – 19:42 UTC
- 4 more earthquakes from M0.6 to M1.4 at a depth of 10 to 12 km (15:29 to 16:18 UTC)

[link to earthquake-report.com]
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Good Morning

Update 17/08 – 10:01 UTC

-As said in our 07:37 update, we were very surprised to see no more earthquakes after 18:11 and a restart of seismicity after midnight, even more that we saw continuous peaks on the seismogram during the late evening ! The reason : IGN had probably no personnel at hand to add the quakes (we guess that they are entered manually in the database). The 58 quakes listed now are registered up to 23:37. We do not expect any further change.

Update 17/08 – 10:01 UTC

- Another 5 quakes have been added to the 7 earlier reported. Magnitudes are going up (range from 1.1 to M2.1) – Depths : 10 to 13 km – Timeline : 06:54 until 08:39

Update 17/08 – 07:37 UTC

- A little bit to our surprise, there were no more earthquakes listed yesterday after 18:11. This brings yesterdays total on 45.
- The quakes continued though after midnight and so far today we have noticed 7 volcanic earthquakes (see list below). Epicenters are still in the same perimeter.
- Vertical deformation both at El Pinar and Frontera stations is slightly higher which corresponds with the many, mostly weak earthquakes in the El Golfo area. The SABI station (Sabinosa) of the University of Nagoya does not seem to report data anymore, a pity as almost all the current action takes place in that sector.


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I have a theory, but bare with me because it's just a massive guess.
I have noticed a pattern:

*There's a bigger than usual quake between el hierro and (I think) Tenerife.. (last one was a 3.something) and then activity picks up under el hierro.

*Then seismos from la palma and the other islands start to show little tremors and/or deformation.

*Then activity on el Hierro drops.

*Then there's another quake/tremor, and the process begins again.

I theorise that el hierro is (as we've affectionately started calling it..) a ''windbag''
Magma travels from the area where the bigger quakes/tremors occur, then it takes a route directly around/under el hierro, activity picks up, and it swells i.e. deformity happens, then it moves off and continues it's journey towards la palma..

I think BOB was a fluke, some pressure was released, but it wasn't meant to erupt there...
I think La palma or one of the other islands is being 'fed' and the route the magma takes is around or under el hierro.

The only way I can think to prove it, is to watch this recent flurry of activity, then watch la palma closely in the weeks that follow.
If this is the case then something will have to give, either it'll find a route out on el hierro, or it'll take a long while yet for la palma to be fed to the point that it's ready to burst.

Like I say... just a theory.. thoughts?
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I have a theory, but bare with me because it's just a massive guess.
I have noticed a pattern:

*There's a bigger than usual quake between el hierro and (I think) Tenerife.. (last one was a 3.something) and then activity picks up under el hierro.

*Then seismos from la palma and the other islands start to show little tremors and/or deformation.

*Then activity on el Hierro drops.

*Then there's another quake/tremor, and the process begins again.

I theorise that el hierro is (as we've affectionately started calling it..) a ''windbag''
Magma travels from the area where the bigger quakes/tremors occur, then it takes a route directly around/under el hierro, activity picks up, and it swells i.e. deformity happens, then it moves off and continues it's journey towards la palma..

I think BOB was a fluke, some pressure was released, but it wasn't meant to erupt there...
I think La palma or one of the other islands is being 'fed' and the route the magma takes is around or under el hierro.

The only way I can think to prove it, is to watch this recent flurry of activity, then watch la palma closely in the weeks that follow.
If this is the case then something will have to give, either it'll find a route out on el hierro, or it'll take a long while yet for la palma to be fed to the point that it's ready to burst.

Like I say... just a theory.. thoughts?
:)
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Right, just a theory..
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AC, your theory is sound by what you have witnessed. However, consider this...we've seen numerous times how the quakes that occur between Tenerife and Grand Canary often spur activity below Hierro. There appears to be a magma shopping center between Tenerife nd Grand Canary. Everytime Hierro orders magma soup the quake occurs then Hierro becomes active. The theory of it heading to La Palma next is where I would stop tho. Hierro has shown plenty of evidence of magma intrusion. This is evidenced by the crazy deformtion occurring there. This same deformation is not happening at La Palma.
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Decent size quake just hit

Saturday August 18 2012, 01:50:51 UTC 36 minutes ago Canary Islands, Spain Region 3.8 27.0 CSEM-EMSC Feed

[link to quakes.globalincidentmap.com]

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Saturday August 18 2012, 01:52:59 UTC 41 minutes ago Canary Islands, Spain Region 2.6 26.0 CSEM-EMSC Feed

[link to quakes.globalincidentmap.com]
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[link to www.ign.es] This is just North of Tenerife looks like. 3.8 means something is loosening up here! This is a new location for bigger quakes.
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Good Morning All

Update 17/08 – 23:55 UTC
- We have ended the day at 24 earthquakes. Magnitudes from 0.9 to 1.7. Depths : 1 at 22 km (the 1.7) and the rest at 11 km. Time range : from 20:24 to 23:22.


Update 18/08 – 09:24 UTC
- Those people who had subscribed to earthquake emails in Spain or the Canary Islands, received a couple of alerts during the European night. We wrote this earlier today in our earthquakes section : 3 earthquakes close to western Tenerife (Canary Islands) – The earthquakes epicenter was close to La Laguna. An ER reader specidied that the shaking of the mainshock lasted for about 5 seconds. The shaking was weakened somewhat because of the double effect of the depth (more than 20 km deep) and the location of the epicenter (below the sea bed)
- In the meantime the magma quake engine below El Hierro has started again; Contrary to what happened the last couple of days, the depth of the quakes is very different (from 3 to 37 km !), something to watch closely. The 3 km depth earthquake is very weak and can have been caused by stress in the island
- The vertical deformation at Frontera has deflated by at least 1.5 cm in 24 hours


[link to earthquake-report.com]


I see Dettro reported on this already, but it is worth repeating.....

Getting close to 4.0. That's where the concern over landslides really starts.
Magnitude ML 3.8

Region CANARY ISLANDS, SPAIN REGION

Date time 2012-08-18 01:50:49.0 UTC

Location 28.53 N ; 16.47 W

Depth 35 km

[link to www.emsc-csem.org]

Last Edited by shenue on 08/18/2012 09:11 AM
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One thing for sure...these islands will keep you guessing! Even the most educated scientists who have watched Hierro over the past year have admitted to scratching their heads over what Hierro has done. Nearly every one of their predictyions have been false. Hell...GLP has had better success than they have :)
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Good Morning All

Update 17/08 – 23:55 UTC
- We have ended the day at 24 earthquakes. Magnitudes from 0.9 to 1.7. Depths : 1 at 22 km (the 1.7) and the rest at 11 km. Time range : from 20:24 to 23:22.


Update 18/08 – 09:24 UTC
- Those people who had subscribed to earthquake emails in Spain or the Canary Islands, received a couple of alerts during the European night. We wrote this earlier today in our earthquakes section : 3 earthquakes close to western Tenerife (Canary Islands) – The earthquakes epicenter was close to La Laguna. An ER reader specidied that the shaking of the mainshock lasted for about 5 seconds. The shaking was weakened somewhat because of the double effect of the depth (more than 20 km deep) and the location of the epicenter (below the sea bed)
- In the meantime the magma quake engine below El Hierro has started again; Contrary to what happened the last couple of days, the depth of the quakes is very different (from 3 to 37 km !), something to watch closely. The 3 km depth earthquake is very weak and can have been caused by stress in the island
- The vertical deformation at Frontera has deflated by at least 1.5 cm in 24 hours


[link to earthquake-report.com]


I see Dettro reported on this already, but it is worth repeating.....

Getting close to 4.0. That's where the concern over landslides really starts.
Magnitude ML 3.8

Region CANARY ISLANDS, SPAIN REGION

Date time 2012-08-18 01:50:49.0 UTC

Location 28.53 N ; 16.47 W

Depth 35 km

[link to www.emsc-csem.org]
 Quoting: shenue


If it is true as many claim (across the web, not just at GLP) that they're making false downgrades of their estimates- then what? was the 3.8 really a 4.8 ?
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AC, your theory is sound by what you have witnessed. However, consider this...we've seen numerous times how the quakes that occur between Tenerife and Grand Canary often spur activity below Hierro. There appears to be a magma shopping center between Tenerife nd Grand Canary. Everytime Hierro orders magma soup the quake occurs then Hierro becomes active. The theory of it heading to La Palma next is where I would stop tho. Hierro has shown plenty of evidence of magma intrusion. This is evidenced by the crazy deformtion occurring there. This same deformation is not happening at La Palma.
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yeah, but weren't the la palma sensors 'stolen'?
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la palma's instruments to measure carbon dioxide emissions were stolen, but hadnt heard about any seismic monitors stolen. please elaborate
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This must be my day for dream sharing, as a couple of nights ago I had what started out as a wonderful dream being in the sea with my boyfriend. He said he saw some dolphins and as I love dolphins I was like, where are they, let me see. At that moment hundreds of dolphins all jumped out the water and stood on their noses!! It was wonderful and we both gave a round of applause. Then a moment later I looked down and saw lava under the water, I knew it was an underwater volcano, it was very close to the surface. We were really alarmed and immediately started rushing, swimming then wading to shore. It was so vivid I was looking around for active underwater volcanoes on Thursday and Friday (dream was early hours THursday morning). I was thinking Hawaii, but maybe it is El Hierro...
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Totally off-topic but interesting, some say it might have been a submarine explosion.. [link to en.wikipedia.org]
Today a hurricane (Gordon) is near to the Canary Islands, however it is estimated to go towards the Azores so not really a threat to us. [link to www.nhc.noaa.gov]
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This must be my day for dream sharing, as a couple of nights ago I had what started out as a wonderful dream being in the sea with my boyfriend. He said he saw some dolphins and as I love dolphins I was like, where are they, let me see. At that moment hundreds of dolphins all jumped out the water and stood on their noses!! It was wonderful and we both gave a round of applause. Then a moment later I looked down and saw lava under the water, I knew it was an underwater volcano, it was very close to the surface. We were really alarmed and immediately started rushing, swimming then wading to shore. It was so vivid I was looking around for active underwater volcanoes on Thursday and Friday (dream was early hours THursday morning). I was thinking Hawaii, but maybe it is El Hierro...
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Dolphins are always around here, but this year extraordinarily a lot of whales (speaking of La Palma), even now during the summer. Normally they are only spotted during the winter months. They are even seen from the coast. I have been on a boat-trip several times and always have seen a lot of dolphins. I wonder if this activity attracts them..
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This must be my day for dream sharing, as a couple of nights ago I had what started out as a wonderful dream being in the sea with my boyfriend. He said he saw some dolphins and as I love dolphins I was like, where are they, let me see. At that moment hundreds of dolphins all jumped out the water and stood on their noses!! It was wonderful and we both gave a round of applause. Then a moment later I looked down and saw lava under the water, I knew it was an underwater volcano, it was very close to the surface. We were really alarmed and immediately started rushing, swimming then wading to shore. It was so vivid I was looking around for active underwater volcanoes on Thursday and Friday (dream was early hours THursday morning). I was thinking Hawaii, but maybe it is El Hierro...
 Quoting: Shayla 22193885


Dolphins are always around here, but this year extraordinarily a lot of whales (speaking of La Palma), even now during the summer. Normally they are only spotted during the winter months. They are even seen from the coast. I have been on a boat-trip several times and always have seen a lot of dolphins. I wonder if this activity attracts them..
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The Azores are home to maassive whale/dolphin/turtle/shark colonies. Seeing a bunch in the Canaries could just mean a good population this year or just part of the regular migration?
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la palma's instruments to measure carbon dioxide emissions were stolen, but hadnt heard about any seismic monitors stolen. please elaborate
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I did a couple searches but only came up with gas monitoring instruments stolen. Didn't see anything about seismic equipment stolen. Doesn't mean it didn't happen though, but I didn't find anything on it.


And..........Good Morning everyone

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