Best El Hierro Thread On GLP - Canary Islands - ACTIVITY HAS RETURNED - AGAIN!

You're on a fool's errand. You're not going to capitulate any positive response from reasonable people as your argument is unreasonable. You have TRIED to make your case, you have failed, now I am done with this thread except for reference and record. I don't care what you think about the previous interaction. I could care less that you got ass hurt because your rediculous accusations got shot down and you got banned for being nothing more than a shill, attempting to block the analysis of science and events affiliated with Hierro. We did a great job going through the evidence, there are quality people here...and you are not one of them. Gizzie, let this fool die in his pursuits of attention and foul. He will attain no compromise from me and his efforts are futile because truth and evidence marks the day. For some reason he has a wild hair up his ass to cause issues and separation when division is the last thing any of us have caused in this thread. Let him go his way and we will go ours.

There has just been a 7.2 EQ Colombia.

The link below shows the EQ activity etc the week before this.


[link to www.volcanodiscovery.com]

El Hierro has shown much more EQ activity than this !!!!!

The scientific meeting the night of the volcanoes in Fuencaliente, has served to contrast such divergent positions on the volcanology in La Palma as Simon Day, who presented the model of the catastrophe that would cause the slippage of Cumbre Vieja or, on the contrary, the proposal of the prestigious Spanish geologist Luis González de Vallejo, who defends the "great stability" of this volcanic edificeposition much less impact media as above, but with a solid scientific basis;Vallejo González was overwhelming to the several hundred people who gathered in Fuencaliente and stressed that the building Cumbre Vieja is "very stable", even more than the Teide-Pico Viejo, with a payback period of this phenomenon which was 80,000 years. This fixes one of the uncertainties generated by the theory of Simon Day, which is unable to forward a time frame to the collapse that forecasts of this volcano, i.e., that according to the British scientist could be this year or within several thousand years. In fact, specified that major landslides in the Canary Islands and in the Atlantic Islands generally occur because they grow very fast on a very weak base, which tends to give up due to lack of stability. In the case of Cumbre Vieja, estimated that still remain you more than a thousand meters so lost that stability and a large landslide might occur.Lizards along with coralThe Complutense University geologist stressed that this conclusion responds to scientific evidence, not to the development of theories, in a clear allusion to Day. González de Vallejo has participated in a study that is still in phase of publication and that goes to show for the first time that in the Canary Islands have been mega-tsunami (giant waves of more than 50 meters) and the causes that generated them.Among the conclusions is that in the Canary Islands even though there was evidence of the existence of large landslides that caused mega tsunamis to come into contact with the sea, now have confirmed scientifically, to discover for the first time in the Islands 'tsunami deposit', that were not known until now."There have been many landslides (La Orotava, new Summit, the Gulf) in the Canary Islands, but fortunately we have found deposits of tsunamis, because if not continue at the level of speculation", explained. The places where you have made these findings are in Agaete (Gran Canaria); Teno (Tenerife); and high stone (Lanzarote). It is of "huge tsunami deposits, probably the best preserved and most complete in the world". Scientists have found in these locations fauna marina along with continental on high surfaces. "We found lizards along with corals," he explained.A few tsunamis have much seniority and produced by landslides resulting from the fact that the Islands 'grow to extremely fast speeds".

[link to www.diariodeavisos.com]

Thanks for sharing, so basically Cumbre Vieja is much more stable then the overhyped youtube videos claim.

1167952 30/09/2012 16:56:13 27.7684 -18.0848 10.3 1.3 mbLg W FRONTERA.IHI - El Hierro
1167976 30/09/2012 21:30:13 27.7188 -18.1308 27.8 1.0 mbLg SW FRONTERA.IHI - El Hierro

1167977 01/10/2012 01:24:25 27.7931 -18.0821 10.4 1.0 mbLg NW FRONTERA.IHI - El Hierro
1167979 01/10/2012 02:40:20 27.6676 -17.9774 14.5 0.7 mbLg S EL PINAR.IHI - El Hierro
1167980 01/10/2012 03:26:05 27.7626 -18.0922 10.4 1.3 mbLg W FRONTERA.IHI - El Hierro
1167984 01/10/2012 05:44:50 27.7562 -18.0215 10.0 0.6 mbLg W FRONTERA.IHI - El Hierro
1168074 01/10/2012 17:06:06 27.6724 -18.0683 17.1 1.3 mbLg SW EL PINAR.IHI - El Hierro

1168075 01/10/2012 17:57:58 27.7721 -18.0835 10.2 1.9 mbLg W FRONTERA.IHI - El Hierro
1168082 01/10/2012 19:54:10 27.7362 -18.0163 12.0 1.1 mbLg SW FRONTERA.IHI - El Hierro
1168076 01/10/2012 19:54:33 27.7246 -18.0267 10.5 1.7 mbLg SW FRONTERA.IHI - El Hierro
1168078 01/10/2012 19:59:34 27.7281 -18.0204 11.0 1.7 mbLg SW FRONTERA.IHI- El Hierro

1168084 01/10/2012 20:29:23 27.7372 -18.0106 14 1.7 4 SW FRONTERA

Today taking 4455 earthquakes located by IGN in so far in year 2012 in the Canarian Islands, including today's 4: 1 to tenerife to 8 km deep and very close together 3 N to N of sabinosa in the ejambre of the Gulf in the iron about 10 km of depth, although in CHIE are many moreThere are enough microseismicity, if checked any more will come out (Henry)





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A swarm of earthquakes has started since midnight around Tenerife ????


1168922 07/10/2012 00:49:49 28.2723 -16.7508 48 1.7 3 SE SANTIAGO DEL TEIDE.ITF

1168943 07/10/2012 00:50:58 28.3067 -16.8173 54 1.1 3 NW SANTIAGO DEL TEIDE.ITF

1168927 07/10/2012 00:59:30 28.4420 -16.8504 58 1.2 3 N BUENAVISTA DEL NORTE.ITF

1168939 07/10/2012 01:01:28 28.4257 -16.8517 73 0.8 3 N BUENAVISTA DEL NORTE.ITF

1168941 07/10/2012 01:13:50 28.3686 16.8851 72 0.8 3 W BUENAVISTA DEL NORTE.ITF

1168942 07/10/2012 01:25:20 28.3747-16.8650 60 1.0 3 W BUENAVISTA DEL NORTE.ITF

1168935 07/10/2012 02:01:39 28.3207 -16.7965 48 1.2 3 NE SANTIAGO DEL TEIDE.ITF

1168950 07/10/2012 02:03:20 28.1400 -16.6811 61 1.0 3 N ARONA.ITF

A swarm of earthquakes has started since midnight around Tenerife ????


1168922 07/10/2012 00:49:49 28.2723 -16.7508 48 1.7 3 SE SANTIAGO DEL TEIDE.ITF

1168943 07/10/2012 00:50:58 28.3067 -16.8173 54 1.1 3 NW SANTIAGO DEL TEIDE.ITF

1168927 07/10/2012 00:59:30 28.4420 -16.8504 58 1.2 3 N BUENAVISTA DEL NORTE.ITF

1168939 07/10/2012 01:01:28 28.4257 -16.8517 73 0.8 3 N BUENAVISTA DEL NORTE.ITF

1168941 07/10/2012 01:13:50 28.3686 16.8851 72 0.8 3 W BUENAVISTA DEL NORTE.ITF

1168942 07/10/2012 01:25:20 28.3747-16.8650 60 1.0 3 W BUENAVISTA DEL NORTE.ITF

1168935 07/10/2012 02:01:39 28.3207 -16.7965 48 1.2 3 NE SANTIAGO DEL TEIDE.ITF

1168950 07/10/2012 02:03:20 28.1400 -16.6811 61 1.0 3 N ARONA.ITF

On this map from Avcan the purple circles show all the earthquakes on Tenerife since midnight (today).

[link to www.avcan.org]

Thats a lot in just a few hours..

I have lived in the Canary Islands for the last thirteen years and I have never seen so much Volcanic activity thats been happening over the last year.

Its said whats happening on El Hierro does not affect the other islands but I am not so sure that this is correct.

Just look at all the EQ'S in Tenerife this morning .

There was an unusual EQ a 2.8 off the coast of Fuuerteventura yesterday and there have been many EQ'S around all the islands over the last months.

Were this is going only Mother Nature knows !!!!!

Did you monitor the activity all these years, or did you start following it lately? Don´t get me wrong, not ot be cynical but sometimes I think with internet people just get more information then we did before. I mean the Canary Islands are volcanic island and the hotspot has always been under them. Most locals I know are not worried at all, they are used to this. Last eruption here at La Palma was a daytrip for the locals. We have a lot of volcans so pressure can and will be relieved somewhere sometimes.

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Did you monitor the activity all these years, or did you start following it lately? Don´t get me wrong, not ot be cynical but sometimes I think with internet people just get more information then we did before. I mean the Canary Islands are volcanic island and the hotspot has always been under them. Most locals I know are not worried at all, they are used to this. Last eruption here at La Palma was a daytrip for the locals. We have a lot of volcans so pressure can and will be relieved somewhere sometimes.

I really think you need to take your head out of the sand and maybe the locals should start to worry and realise what is happening. The internet is a great tool to look back and compare whats been happening around the Canary islands.

Earthquakes Around The Canary islands info from IGN.es.

Jan to Dec 2000 10 earthquakes .

Jan to Dec 2001 38 earthquakes

Jan to Dec 2002 78 earthquakes

Jan to Dec 2003 118 earthquakes

Jan to Dec 2004 230 earthquakes

Jan to Dec 2005 210 earthquakes

Jan to Dec 2006 106 earthquakes.

Not one of these quakes were registered from El Hierro .

To date there have been nearly 5000 earthquakes already in El Hierro and many more around the surrounding islands .

To answer your question I dont really need to comment the figures speak for themselves.

Well said !

I agree things are active, but why don´t you answer my question? This doesn´t necesarely mean things are going to escalate (my prediction this thread will be dead in a few months). As said this happened before during the history of the archipel and only very few times escalated into a real threat.

AC8852

Do you really read what you write your statement :

,, this does not mean things may esculate,,

is beyond belief as day by day month by mont things are esculating more and more .

Thirteen years ago up until July 2011 there was no need for me or the islanders on El Hierro La Palma La Gomera Gran Canaria or Tenerife to read the news about El Hierro or read the Avcan Facebook page or look at the graphs of IGN or read earthquake report BECAUSE nothing was happening.

BUT since July 2011 things have changed Magma is on the move under all the Canary Islands (can be confirmed by looking at the daily graphs on IGN ).

Over 5000 earthquakes since July 2012 in El Hierro is not normal and these are happening North South East and West of the island on land and in the surrounding sea.

El Hierro inflating by 24cms is also not normal.

If you have the evidence that all this is quite normal and we can all turned a blind eye because this is just normal occurance for El Hierro please enlighten us all.

AC8852

Just to refresh your mind some reports and maps from the last week:

,,Many LPs in the graphics herrenas in these last hours. No doubt something fluid is moving and at more shallow depths that those reflect the registered events. The reason is very simple, an LP can be located accurately in its approach if lacks a seismic array full and very trained, thing that I have serious doubts have now. So will have to rely on other elements more worldly and less scientific, as the sounds, smells, vibration, dizziness, taste of the water, bugs, etc... that can help us in early precursors to any eruption. Undoubtedly, when this becomes more evident, will be accompanied by very steady microseismicity and at more shallow depths strongest signals, between 1 and 3 km on average. At this time, and after seeing the appearance of seismic swarms deep under the dorsal West of Tenerife and some events under La Palma, as well as others in other islands or deep in the ocean next to the Canary Islands, seems to me much more important that we have an optimal warning seismic network, supplemented with other gas metering stationsas well as a geodesic network independent and up-to-date at the moment, to ensure at least from the point of view of science, makes every effort to monitor, study and prevent the risk inherent in the volcanic orogeny of our archipelago. I think that we do not have this, neglect of the administrations, that is very clear, but all administrations, the here and the there. We cannot allow that press is always to 3,000 kms because the worst when you get the time is late for some. We need now more than ever, that all accept the volcanic reality of Canary Islands and the risk that the risk, which is now more danger than ever that neglect, lack of means, by the manifest stupidity of many politicians that hides the head under the wing waiting for others to come to the problem.,,

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[link to www.02.ign.es]

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[link to www.emsc-csem.org]

Well, let´s see in a few months, you might be right that something can happen. But I think it will erupt again at the bottom of the ocean. I will keep on following this thread and will admit if I´m wrong. Only thing I´m saying is (again) things will not necesarely escalate into a dangerous situation. Experience learns us that all the "recent" eruptions were not threatening for us.

I dont think its a matter of you being wrong its a matter of great importance that we are all kept fully informed of whats happening and that the islanders are kept fully upto date just in case the emergeny services need to take over.

IMO its also important the islanders on La Palma and La Gomera keep their wits about themselves and do not just bury their heads in the sand because this is real and happening at the moment.

On the Avcan Facebook page there is a discussion at themoment about the erruption in 1982 of the Chichon Volcano in Mexico where the goverment thought that decreased activity meant there was no danger of an erruption.

,,During one week (28 March-4 April 1982), three powerful explosive eruptions (VEI 5) of El Chichón Volcano caused the worst volcanic disaster in Mexico’s recorded history. Pyroclastic flows and surges obliterated nine villages, killing about 2,000 people, and ashfalls downwind posed socio-economic hardships for many thousands of inhabitants of the States of Chiapas and Tabasco. The unexpected and vigorous eruption of 28 caused a hasty, confused evacuation of most villagers in the area. Activity was greatly diminished the next five days, and then the most powerful and lethal eruptions occurred 3-4 April—tragically, after many evacuees were allowed by authorities to return home. Unfortunately, the eruptions came as an almost total surprise for scientists and government authorities, effectively precluding opportunities to implement timely mitigative countermeasures. During the months before eruption onset, fumarolic activity increased and inhabitants living close to the volcano felt occasional earthquakes, prompting the Chiapas government to request help from the Federal government. Both the Chiapas and Federal governmental actions were slow, and the requested assistance came after the volcano erupted. Perhaps the most important lesson learned from the disastrous outcome at El Chichón is that its decreased activity (29 March-2 April) should not have been assumed by the senior scientist on site—and the military authorities acting on his advice—to signal the end of eruption. While the 1982 eruptions caused a national tragedy, they also fostered multidisciplinary studies of eruptive phenomena, not only at El Chichón but also other explosive volcanoes in the world.,,

[link to repositoriodigital.academica.mx]

Tremor is back.

Should be somewhere on ign.es but my fw wont let me get there ;)

pick on twitter:


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Avcan have just posted this statement on their Facebook page.

,,ONE year ago, the 04.18 H appeared a strange signal, today we all know that you indicated, a harmonic tremor, signal Pre-eruptiva-eruptive indicating an imminent eruption by the movement of magma and depressurization of gas, copy them the post that we put on that date...(Enrique) ^ _ -"This morning, from 04: 18 h., comes about by registering at station CHIE of the iron which could be a sign of volcanic tremor." These signals indicate magma movements are characteristic of active volcanoesFrom AVCAN we request publicly to the National Geographic Institute (IGN), responsible body by Decree of volcanic surveillance, to confirm or denies the existence of the signal and make an interpretation of the current situation.Also we ask everyone to they have much comfort and avoid unnecessary alarmismos. If it is confirmed that the signal that we see in the station CHIE of El Hierro is a tremor, it would be within the predictable process that lives on the island from the month of July.Remember that the volcanic alert semaphore remains at yellow level and the population must be attentive to the communications of the civil protection authorities."Much encouragement and peace of mind, please!"" [link to www.ign.es] it may consult on this same FB, below and view the comments that were made...,,


[link to www.02.ign.es]

[link to www.avcan.org]

,,Today on the other hand, are still there, with Seismicity in Central of the island, both this morning and yesterday evening at a depth of about 20 km... less than the 7: 16 that is to 10.6km and the blue of the North, almost in the Summit area. (Enrique),,

[link to www.avcan.org]

SISMOS del 10/10/2012 - Azul Claro (3)
SISMOS del 09/10/2012 - Verde Claro (6)
SISMOS del 08/10/2012 - Rosa (4)
SISMOS del 01/10 al 07/10/2012 - Amarillo (85)

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Actualidad Volcánica de Canarias (AVCAN) y uno mas recien salido del Horno, en la zona de cumbres..(Enrique)..

1169573 10/10/2012 08:49:04 27.7369 -18.0301 12 2.0 4 SW FRONTERA.IHI

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oh its from 1 year ago ;)

I should read before posting.

sry

OOPs sorry from me aswell this in in realtion to last year !!!

;)

Giant Wave Impact in Portugal on Friday, 12 October, 2012 at 15:27 (03:27 PM) UTC


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Two sailors from Essex were killed when their yacht was hit by a 20ft (6m) wave and capsized off the coast of Portugal. An inquest heard that Chris Hull, 52, Glenn Foster, 23, and Chris Brooks, 24, were sailing the yacht Waterwave from Vigo in northwest Spain. The men, from Southend, decided to stop at Povoa de Varzim harbour near Porto. Mr Brooks said he tried to turn the yacht but the wave capsized it. The coroner recorded in a narrative verdict that the wave had caused their deaths...


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"As we approached the harbour, which was closed, I saw the wave and tried to turn the boat into it. "But I could only manage to get it at 45 degrees to the wave which broke the mast when it hit the boat and capsized it." Mr Brooks was thrown from the yacht because he was not wearing his lifeline. He said he could see Mr Hull and Mr Foster still attached to the side of the capsized yacht by their lifelines. He tried to swim towards them but the yacht was drifting away so he decided to turn around and head for the shore where he was later picked up. The yacht later crashed on to the shore. Mr Hull's wife Kim asked whose decision it was to enter the harbour. Mr Brooks said it was a joint decision as there were no warning lights or announcements on the radio to tell them otherwise

Discover origin of the massive terrestrial volcanic eruptions in Tenerife
The Las Cañadas caldera has a history of eight mega eruptions in 700 thousand years, and in his remains, scientists discovered what happened immediately before these explosions

Scientists identified at least eight violent volcanic eruptions of a catastrophic nature to the Earth in the last 700 thousand years in the caldera La Cañada in Tenerife, Canary Islands, and discovered that the trigger for these explosions was when old and cold magma was mixed with fresh and hot magma.

Events generated were of such dimension eruptions were raised about 25 kilometers in height, with material pyroclastic which reached the 130 km of extension to your around, reported yesterday by the University of Southampton.

Doctor Rex Taylor and a University team studied nodules of igneous rocks formed by clusters of crystals of magma in the large volcanic eruptions of the past pyroclastic deposits.

Taylor stressed that these nodules of clusters of crystals are trapped in the magma chambers before solidify. Physical characteristics reveal the changes that occur in the magma until the volcano erupting.

These nodules resemble coarse wet sand balls, explain, and there is marked circles of crystals that are very different from if.

In this way scientists discovered in boiler La Cañada, circles of magma in the past are very different to those that existed immediately before the explosion.

Taylor posits that the agitation of the young and hot magma on the magma old and cold, seems to be the common element before each major eruption, said Dr. Tom Gernon, Professor of Oceanography and co-author of the study.

"Analysis of the volcano glass nodules documents end processes and immediately prior to the eruption changes that trigger catastrophic eruptions," says Gernon, according to a University report.

"The mere presence of white nodules in the piroplasticos deposits suggests that the magma chamber empties into the eruption, and the Chamber collapses on itself, forming the caldera", adds the scientist.

The team studies the La Canada de Tenerife volcano, is located close to populated areas, and has a history of large and catastrophic explosions.

They compared the lesser of these explosions was 25 times stronger than the eruption of the volcano Eyjafjallajökull in 2010 in Iceland, whose cloud spread to Europe and managed to block many international flights for days.

The boiler The Canada is located in the "ravines of el Teide", in Tenerife, in the Canary Islands, and is regarded as one of the larger boilers in the land.

About 170,000 years ago still existed a large volcano in the Centre of the island, where today lies the boiler, advises Geocaching. Recurrent eruptions of what was this enormous volcano emptied magma below.

On the north side of the caldera there are two active volcanoes, the "peak of el Teide" with 3,718 metres, who made rash in 1492 and the 'Pico Viejo' with 3,135 meters, which erupted in 1798.

According to Geocaching ' in the last five centuries, from 1492 always there was a volcanic eruption around the turn of the century not more than 10 years sooner or later ".

In 1492 was at Pico del Teide; In 1604, seven sources; In 1706 in Montana burned; 1798 in old peak and in 1909 the Chinyero.

[link to www.lagranepoca.com]

Interesting because Tenerife and several other islands had major forest fires this year. Some were never ruled accident/arson/nature because there was no clues on what led to the origin of the fires. Some of the people who have been talking about Hierro, not necessarily here but in the circles, have speculated it was magma so close to the surface that it ignited dry timber and grass. Who knows...maybe it's a sign?

Good morning. It seems we have more questions than answers, unfortunately. It certainly is worrisome.