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Question: Have any of you used ScaleRID?

 
Jeffrey Lebowski
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Question: Have any of you used ScaleRID?
I'm just looking at getting it and was wondering if anyone on GLP has used it. If so, could you please tell me if you think it's worth it?

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Re: Question: Have any of you used ScaleRID?
I have considered two other similar products and concluded that they are most likely scams.
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Re: Question: Have any of you used ScaleRID?
I had a filtration company come out a month or two ago and he did a demonstration that was quite compelling. His company dealt in filtration to get the chlorine out of the water, which contributes to the buildup. Of course, his product was slightly more expensive than the ScaleRID, too. :) Looking at how the product works, I'm leaning towards scam, too. Was just looking for confirmation one way or the other.

Thanks!
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09/06/2011 03:22 PM
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Re: Question: Have any of you used ScaleRID?
You guys may be too quick to accuse companies of being a scam. The only scam is that Edenpure copied the well known and proven Scalewatcher product because their patent expired. The technology is valid and it works. You can find independent research here: link. You should keep in mind this does not filter the water, it conditions it so the hard minerals don’t stick to your pipes, it even cleans up pre existing scale. I haven’t tested the ScaleRID product, but the Scalewatcher works wonders for me and you will find hundreds of happy testimonials on Scalewatcher online. We got our Scalewatcher from Aqua Genesis Co. who has free tech support and great online prices; AquaGenesisUSA.com
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Re: Question: Have any of you used ScaleRID?
The independent research on the Scalewatcher products can be found here:
[link to aquagenesisusa.com]
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Re: Question: Have any of you used ScaleRID?
OH! This question is for mineral deposits,, My mistake! I thought it was for Reptilians.
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Re: Question: Have any of you used ScaleRID?
A question for greenchristopher ... Is the smaller ScaleRID comparable to the mini Scalewatcher? I can't find any specs that allow me to compare the sizes.
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10/19/2011 12:07 PM
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Re: Question: Have any of you used ScaleRID?
I received (Oct. 2011) a brochure for this product in the mail and made several calls to water specialists, some with a WQA (Water Quality Assoc.) membership. The last person I spoke with said a customer of his purchased one (Model SR1000) and installed it according to the directions. He then called this specialist and asked him to come to his home to test it to see if it was doing what it claimed to do. After testing the water (before and after "treatment") he found no noticeable difference in the water softness. His customer said, "I just wasted $150.00".
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Re: Question: Have any of you used ScaleRID?
I have very hard well water and have gone through 2 water softners and am on my 3rd. I go through softner salt pretty fast, also. That is, I used to.

I ordered a scalerid from a postal flier, and installed it, which was beyond easy. I had serious doubts and also thought it was a scam but tried it anyway.

After a couple of days our water pressure started to increase. I also have an in-line rust filter, and although the scalerid is not supposed to affect rust, the minerals converted by the scalerid must not get trapped by the rust on the filter so fast.

After a month, I cautiously bypassed my water softner, and have not turned it on since.

The bottom line is that the scalerid works unbelievably well! Everything the company claims about the unit regarding scale reduction on faucets, better pipe flow, etc. is true.

Now I have to unload a $600 water softner and 5 bags of salt.

This is an unbiased and unsolicited opinion. I have never had a product designed to solve a difficult problem work so well.
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Re: Question: Have any of you used ScaleRID?
Yes, I've got the ScaleRID and really like it. I got it in September 2011, and pretty quickly (like in 2 days) noticed my water felt softer, and soap was sudsier. So I'm totally sold. I tell my friends and family about it and they're all skeptical, so I show them the info or website b/c I know they think it's bunk. But anyway, it's not. I figured that EdenPure was a reputable business (I checked the BBB just to confirm) and that if it really didn't work I could get my money back, but happily I feel it was a worthwhile, and inexpensive solution to my hard water. BTW, I used to itch all the time if I didn't use lotion on my skin after showering. Now I don't get itchy without lotion and it's the middle of winter. Amazing! I didn't know about the Scale Watcher, but either way, same technology. Try it.
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Re: Question: Have any of you used ScaleRID?
[link to en.wikipedia.org]
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Re: Question: Have any of you used ScaleRID?
Given the structure and wording of the positive reviews in this thread, I conclude that they are written by people with a vested interest in sales of these products. Buyer beware.
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Re: Question: Have any of you used ScaleRID?
 Quoting: WaterSaver 1221979


There's a very good reason that Wikipedia references are disallowed in educational and vocational papers.
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Re: Question: Have any of you used ScaleRID?
Does this system work on PVC pipe
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Does it work on cpvp
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Re: Question: Have any of you used ScaleRID?
I tried it and it does nothing. Just a "snake oil" product of today. But the gullible will continue to buy it.
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Re: Question: Have any of you used ScaleRID?
I received (Oct. 2011) a brochure for this product in the mail and made several calls to water specialists, some with a WQA (Water Quality Assoc.) membership. The last person I spoke with said a customer of his purchased one (Model SR1000) and installed it according to the directions. He then called this specialist and asked him to come to his home to test it to see if it was doing what it claimed to do. After testing the water (before and after "treatment") he found no noticeable difference in the water softness. His customer said, "I just wasted $150.00".
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 3454003


I have found that the ZERO WATER filter pitcher is freaking awesome.

Better than the Britta.

Better than my Berkey.

IMHO, Britta and Berkey taste about the same (and as far as ppm goes, Britta has fewer, but not by much).

The ZERO WATER filters are pricey but the result is awesome.

For the 'whole house' I would wonder about the reverse osmosis filters that are used especially in large companies in break room water taps, etc. This would be the type of unit I would be most interested in.

**edited to add that one other drawback regarding zero water is that the filter is Very Slow.

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Re: Question: Have any of you used ScaleRID?
I installed one of the magnetic devices as part of a whole house filtration system. The water tastes a lot better because of three huge charcoal filters. I was in the habit of draining off a pail of water from the bottom of my 14 year old hot water tank at rare intervals before installation of this device. Part of the salesman's pitch was the alleged capability of the newly treated water to dissolve existing scale from fixtures so it occurred to me to see if it had any effect on my tank. The next time I did the drain thing I got a couple gallons of what looked like mud. The discharge was so thick it prevented the faucet from closing completely so I capped it. . . I drained off a few gallons just now. The first gallon was pretty turbid but it cleared fast.

Perhaps it was a coincidence but the aerators on faucets in BRs and the kitchen seem not to accumulate as much crud as formerly.

Magnetic treatment of water sure sounds like voodoo to me and other than the effect on dental plaque accumulation I was unable to find any credible scientific support For me it was a relief to get rid of that Culligan system. I'm too old to wrestle with those sacks of salt.

If it works at all it should work on PVC pipes the same as copper, perhaps better.
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Re: Question: Have any of you used ScaleRID?
I installed one of the magnetic devices as part of a whole house filtration system. The water tastes a lot better because of three huge charcoal filters. I was in the habit of draining off a pail of water from the bottom of my 14 year old hot water tank at rare intervals before installation of this device. Part of the salesman's pitch was the alleged capability of the newly treated water to dissolve existing scale from fixtures so it occurred to me to see if it had any effect on my tank. The next time I did the drain thing I got a couple gallons of what looked like mud. The discharge was so thick it prevented the faucet from closing completely so I capped it. . . I drained off a few gallons just now. The first gallon was pretty turbid but it cleared fast.

Perhaps it was a coincidence but the aerators on faucets in BRs and the kitchen seem not to accumulate as much crud as formerly.

Magnetic treatment of water sure sounds like voodoo to me and other than the effect on dental plaque accumulation I was unable to find any credible scientific support For me it was a relief to get rid of that Culligan system. I'm too old to wrestle with those sacks of salt.

If it works at all it should work on PVC pipes the same as copper, perhaps better.
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Very interesting! Thanks! I think I will look into that. Was it super expensive?
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Re: Question: Have any of you used ScaleRID?
[link to answers.wikia.com]
Is scalerid water system a scam?
Well, let's read their explanation of how the ScaleRID device works. They claim it "works by producing an electric field by a coil"; EE-101 fact: a coil carrying electric current produces a MAGNETIC field, not an electric field. Elsewhere they claim the device produces "variable electric fields
with a continuously changing frequency"; the fact is, copper pipe is an excellent shield against electric fields, whether DC or alternating, effectively preventing their penetration into the water that they are supposed to treat. Oh, and they use "computer chips instead of integrated circuits". But...
computer chips ARE integrated circuits! And how can you tell it's working? By the "LED light that is continually cycling up and down", of course!
And finally, any Chem-101 student can tell you, calcium carbonate and magnesium carbonate (the main constituents of scale) are very stable compounds, which don't just dissociate into free ions, and they certainly don't form "microscopic crystals" when stimulated by "digital circuits".
Sorry, folks, this gadget is bogus. Magnetic is electric.
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Re: Question: Have any of you used ScaleRID?
I'm just looking at getting it and was wondering if anyone on GLP has used it. If so, could you please tell me if you think it's worth it?

Thanks!
 Quoting: Jeffrey Lebowski


I ordered this product from Edenpure in January 2012. Tried it for 9 months and it absolutely does not work. I shipped it back and asked for my money back, but they refused to return my money. Beware!! Do not waste your money on this product........it does NOT work as advertised. It made absolutely no difference in my water. I tried to post a review on Edenpure site, but no way to do it. Guess they want to pick and choose the comments they include on their site. Only the good ones. Again, DO NOT BUY the Scalerid 2000 or any products from Edenpure. Dont make the same mistake I did. Rating should be zero stars or negative stars.
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Re: Question: Have any of you used ScaleRID?
As the ions of the hard water travel through the magnetic field of the coil, they would be totally unaffected because they are moving parallel to the field. Putting snake oil in your water would do more than ScaleRID.
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Re: Question: Have any of you used ScaleRID?
As the ions of the hard water travel through the magnetic field of the coil, they would be totally unaffected because they are moving parallel to the field. Putting snake oil in your water would do more than ScaleRID.
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Re: Question: Have any of you used ScaleRID?
I have considered two other similar products and concluded that they are most likely scams.
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We used the scaleRID it seemed to work at first.I guess long enough for the the waranty to run out. That wasn't very long not even for 6 mo.
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Re: Question: Have any of you used ScaleRID?
I have found that the ZERO WATER filter pitcher is freaking awesome.

Better than the Britta.

Better than my Berkey.

IMHO, Britta and Berkey taste about the same (and as far as ppm goes, Britta has fewer, but not by much).

The ZERO WATER filters are pricey but the result is awesome.

For the 'whole house' I would wonder about the reverse osmosis filters that are used especially in large companies in break room water taps, etc. This would be the type of unit I would be most interested in.

**edited to add that one other drawback regarding zero water is that the filter is Very Slow.


The zerowater is removing all the minerals though, so maybe you just don't like the taste of minerals. People confuse taste with health, but some people simply don't like the taste of various minerals. The zerowater is a one-step version of a brita. For real purification you need a much stronger filter like the berkey water filter.

www.bigberkeywaterfilters.com
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The zerowater is removing all the minerals though, so maybe you just don't like the taste of minerals. People confuse taste with health, but some people simply don't like the taste of various minerals. The zerowater is a one-step version of a brita. For real purification you need a much stronger filter like the berkey water filter.

www.bigberkeywaterfilters.com


[link to www.bigberkeywaterfilters.com]
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Re: Question: Have any of you used ScaleRID?
I searched for info on this because I am considering getting one. I'm not interested because of their advertising and website information, but because a friend of mine hooked one up for his mom and has since decided that he needed one too. She got it because of advertising claims but once he put it in the difference in perceived water softness was noticeably better. Since none of the chemical makeup of the water changes then any testing done will still show hard water since the calcium/lime/whatever is still there. Unless they do testing different now than they used to the test finds what's in the water, then assumes certain hardness characteristics based on that. If the claims are correct, that the same minerals in the water now act different, then a water hardness test won't prove anything. All I know is that this lady has now bypassed a major water softener system that had been designed and installed by a long time well trusted water guy in our town. It wasn't just your basic off the shelf home softener system. My skeptical friend decided to go cold turkey and bypass that system to see if the scalerid would do anything on its own, then put the softener back inline if needed. Within a week or so she noticed improved "softness" (soap suds, soft hands, tings like that) and my once skeptical friend ordered one for himself. Usually if it sounds too good to be true, it is, and I'm still not certain I will order my own (not quite the same water problems as her), but just wanted to say that though skepticism is important some of the arguments in here against the system aren't fact based, just skepticism based.
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Re: Question: Have any of you used ScaleRID?
I live in the Sacramento area, having moved last year from Seattle. Compared to the NW, Sacramento has REALLY hard water!

I'm 65 and was a contractor for some years. The older folks in the gated community I live in found out I was a good guy for help so recently I got a call from an 80 year-old gal who is sharp. Her neighbor put in an Edenpur, replacing his water softner and loves it so she wanted one. I put it in for her, in about 15 minutes. A few days later she said her mineral deposits around the house were disappearing.

I put the coils around the galvanized pipe, not copper, after the meter.

I'd like to know about making my own because I don't want to shell out $250 for a transformer and some wire; seems like that's all it is. The rest is just gingerbread. You don't need a fancy box or led indicator light.
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Re: Question: Have any of you used ScaleRID?
Well, I have to say that I was also a skeptic but a friend of a friend was selling his cheap so after researching it I thought it may be a cheap experiment. It really does work. Now I've read all the previous posts and have noticed a potential problem on some installations. The directions very clearly say that it should only be installed on plastic pipe, i.e. abs, pvs, cpvc, etc., and the coil should not have any metal within 6 inches of it. Now keep in mind that it doesn't get rid of the calcium, etc., it only keeps it in suspension, for lack of a better term. Within a week of installing it I noticed a huge increase in the suds created in my washing machine and my kitchen sink. I have a softener also that I'll keep using for a while. I may bypass it at some later date to see if I notice the difference. I am going to put one in my rental property that has horrendously hard water to see if it will make a difference there. It's unfortunate that it got marketed the way it did as I do believe it has a place in treating water. Not a cure all to be sure but the science seems solid to me. Good luck!

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