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KEEP WATCHING ELENIN:COMET BIELA "DISINTEGRATED" LIKE COMET ELENIN, NOW WE HAVE ANNUAL ANDROMEDID METEOR SHOWER.

 
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This is taken from my post about Electric Comets. I feel it deserves it's own thread considering the circumstances that are happening.

Keep watching Comet Elenin, now is when we are really starting to see action. Just because it's brightness is only temporarily going down does not mean the event is over!


Thread: ### THE ELECTRIC COMET THEORY ### AN ENCOUNTER WITH A COMETARY TAIL. (2ND POST DOWN ON FEBRUARY 8TH THIS YEAR)



What can Electric Comets Do?

We're going to start with a very popular example.

The Chicago Fires of 1871.

I'm going to be quoting from the article off of Thunderbolts.info

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Sunday evening, October 8, 1871 marked the beginning of one of the most devastating fires in U.S. history. Legend has it that “The Great Chicago Fire” resulted from an agitated cow kicking over a lantern in “Mrs O’Leary’s barn”. The dry leaves and parched wood of Illinois in early autumn were the perfect kindling for a wildfire, and the fire spread with extraordinary rapidity, consuming homes and buildings, leaping from rooftop to rooftop with the speed of a locomotive. Between October 8 and 10, an estimated 350 people perished. The fire destroyed the homes of up to one-third of the city's population, about 1,600 stores, 60 factories, and 28 public buildings. Four square miles of the city burned to the ground.

Contrary to popular folklore, the Chicago fire is not the worst in U.S. history. It was not even the worst to occur on October 8 that year. The same evening—in fact, at the same time, about 9:30—a fierce wildfire struck in Peshtigo, Wisconsin, over 200 miles to the north of Chicago, destroying the town and a dozen other villages. Estimates of those killed range upward from 1200 to 2500 in a single night. It was not the Chicago fire but the simultaneous “Peshtigo Fire” that was the deadliest in U.S. history.

And there is more. On the same evening, across Lake Michigan, another fire also wreaked havoc. Though smaller fires had been burning for some time—not unusual under the reported conditions—the most intense outburst appears to have erupted simultaneously with the Chicago and Peshtigo fires. The blaze is said to have then burned for over a month, consuming over 2,000,000 acres and killing at least 200.
 Quoting: Thunderbolts.info


You might be asking what does the Chicago fire have to do with Comets?

Perhaps everything..

Allow me to introduce you to Comet Biela.

The comet was named after Austrian officer W. von Biela, who observed the body in February 1826. By following the path of Biela, the French astronomer Marie-Charles-Théodore de Damoiseau estimated the time of its return. He said the comet would cross the orbit of the Earth about one month ahead of our planet’s arrival at the same spot.

Donnelly does not mention that ten days after Biela’s announcement, a French astronomer John Felix Adolphe Gambart also sighted the comet. Both Biela and Gambert calculated the orbit, recognizing that earlier comet apparitions in 1772 and 1805 were the same object that appeared in 1826. And Gambert, along with other astronomers, predicted that the comet would strike the earth on its return, which he projected for October 29, 1832.

Damoiseau’s prediction was correct. Earth missed the comet by about a month.

On its anticipated 1846 return, Biela was first sighted in late 1845 as it moved toward perihelion (its closest approach to the Sun), astronomers were surprised to see that the head of the comet had acquired a faint satellite. It had split in two

splitdrawing

(picture above)

,something we now know to be fairly common for comets, but still mysterious to cometologists. In 1845, the event seemed unprecedented. As noted by Carl Sagan and Nancy Druyan in their book Comet, “the finding was so bizarre that the first astronomer to note this twinning dismissed it as some internal reflection in his telescope”.

In Robert Chapman’s and John Brandt’s The Comet Book certain details of Biela’s return are fascinating. The discovery of a partner occurred on January 13, 1846, when “a faint satellite comet was observed a small distance from the main comet”. Two tails were seen parallel to each other. “Over the next month the fainter of the two comets increased in brightness and finally became brighter than the ‘main’ comet. The situation then reversed and the main comet became the brighter one again. In addition, the main comet grew a second tail and a luminous bridge of material joined the two comets”. At this time the two nuclei were apart an estimated 250,000 kilometers, about two thirds of the distance separating Earth and the Moon.

Amazingly, and with the aid of a startling and unpredicted meteor shower on November 27, 1872, Professor W. Klinkerfues of Berlin, calculated the trajectories of the meteoric falls, concluding that they were the remains of the comet. This, in turn led him to send instructions to Norman Pogson, Government Astronomer at the Madras Observatory in India (far enough south to allow a good view). Pogson’s answer to Klinkerfues, dated December 6, said he “found Biela immediately” on the first clearing of the sky, and on the second day he saw it again. It showed no tail, he said.

As Chapman and Brandt put it, this was either an “incredible coincidence”, or it was the actual last view of the comet.

 Quoting: Thunderbolts.info


We now see the remains of this comet as the annual meteor shower called the Andromedids and it is well known even among scientists that this is the remains of comet Biela.

I hope you're starting to get where I'm going with this. Let's explore how this annual meteor shower first affected our planet.

It remains to be asked, then, whether the fragmentation of Biela, a comet on a path intersecting the orbit of the Earth, and predicted by some astronomers to collide with the Earth in 1832, might have been the source of the “great conflagration” in 1871. The comet had split at least 25 years earlier (the 1846 appearance), and the two partners had separated by more than 2 million kilometers by 1852. So whether or not Klinkerfues observed Biela after the spectacular shower of November 1872, we know he did not report seeing two bodies. Hence, at least one of the partners intersecting Earth’s path had presumably already disintegrated entirely, leaving the possibility that on a subsequent orbit the Earth moved into debris left by the body.

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But of all the scientific details about comet Biela, perhaps none stands out more dramatically than the fact almost never mentioned—a jet forming between the two nuclear fragments when they were 2 million kilometers apart. In the purely gravitational and mechanical terms that astronomers have sought to apply to comets, this jet is inconceivable. But when we remember how inconsequential is gravity in the presence of the electric force, the improbability disappears.

In fact, the jet is a clue more vital by far than the popular “scientific” commentary on Donnelly’s hypothesis. By directing our attention to the electrical nature of comets, it also invites us to look again at the historic testimony, with an eye to details long unnoticed or forgotten.

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On the evening of October 8, 1871 devastating fires erupted at virtually the same moment in three different states in the region of the Great Lakes—Wisconsin, Illinois, and Michigan. The outbursts included the notorious “Chicago fire”, but also an even more devastating fire in Wisconsin, the worst in U.S. history, covering some 400 square miles. At the same time, wildfires also erupted across much of Michigan. In his book Ragnarok: The Age of Fire and Gravel, published in 1883, Ignatius Donnelly proposed that the simultaneous outbursts were no coincidence; they were the effect of our Earth meeting up with a fragment, or fragments, of comet Biela, a body that had disintegrated a few years earlier while on an Earth-threatening path.

As Donnelly reports it, in the Wisconsin fire near Lake Michigan, a large area including the town of Peshtigo and several neighboring cities was "swept bare by an absolute whirlwind of flame”. His review of the event, based on eyewitness accounts, was taken primarily from the book "History of the Great Conflagration", by James W. Sheahan and George P. Upton (1871). It includes the following report:

"At sundown there was a lull in the wind and comparative stillness. For two hours there were no signs of danger; but at a few minutes after nine o'clock, and by a singular coincidence, precisely the time at which the Chicago fire commenced, the people of the village heard a terrible roar. It was that of a tornado, crushing through the forests. Instantly the heavens were illuminated with a terrible glare. The sky, which had been so dark a moment before, burst into clouds of flame. A spectator of the terrible scene says the fire did not come upon them gradually from burning trees and other objects to the windward, but the first notice they had of it was a whirlwind of flame in great clouds from above the tops of the trees, which fell upon and entirely enveloped everything”.


 Quoting: Thunderbolts.info


"For many of the witnesses it seemed as if the biblical "last days" had come. Though well accustomed to wildfires, they had seen nothing like this before. "They could give no other interpretation to this ominous roar, this bursting of the sky with flame, and this dropping down of fire out of the very heavens, consuming instantly everything it touched".

It came in great sheeted flames from heaven', says another. 'There was a pitiless rain of fire and SAND. The atmosphere was all afire'. Some speak of 'great balls of fire unrolling and shooting forth, in streams’. The fire leaped over roofs and trees, and ignited whole streets at once".


...

A writer in the New York "Evening Post" says he saw "buildings far beyond the line of fire, and in no contact with it, burst into flames from the interior”.

To these references, Donnelly adds a quote from The Annual Record of Science and Industry" for 1876, page 84:

"The flames that consumed a great part of Chicago were of an unusual character and produced extraordinary effects. They absolutely melted the hardest building-stone, which had previously been considered fire-proof. Iron, glass, granite, were fused and run together into grotesque conglomerates, as if they had been put through a blast-furnace. No kind of material could stand its breath for a moment."

Another quote from Sheahan & Upton's Work:

"The huge stone and brick structures melted before the fierceness of the flames as a snow-flake melts and disappears in water, and almost as quickly. Six-story buildings would take fire and disappear for ever from sight in five minutes by the watch. . . . The fire also doubled on its track at the great Union Depot and burned half a mile southward in the very teeth of the gale--a gale which blew a perfect tornado, and in which no vessel could have lived on the lake. . . . Strange, fantastic fires of blue, red, and green played along the cornices of buildings".

 Quoting: Thunderbolts.info


These are the eyewitness reports of what occured during a simultaneous meteor shower noted by astronomers elsewhere.

Stay tuned!
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According to Professor Scott ( author of the Electric Sun [link to members.cox.net] ), bodies fission to creat more surface area upon which to balance electrical stress. In the case of Comet Elenin, it is coming into the Solar neighborhood from 'way out there', and is finding a LOT of electrical stress in the presence of the much more positively charged inner system bodies. Hence, it is probably splitting, and re-splitting, over and over, to provide more surface area for charge equalization.
"A sense of common interest can be fostered among individuals, if they know that they are inter-connected, are parts of one Organic System and are the sons and daughters of one Father. Here is the task of all religions; to teach people that all beings of the world are closely inter-related. Although steadfastness or firm belief in God (Nistha) according to some particular faith and eligibility of the individual is congenial for healthy spiritual growth of every individual, religious bigotry which begets enmity is condemnable, as it is against the real interest of the individual and society. Real religion teaches love for one another. Lord Sri Krishna Chaitanya Mahaprabhu propagated the cult of all-embracing Divine Love which brings universal brotherhood on a transcendental plane.

(Srila Bhakti Dayita Madhava Maharaja )


"If one loves Krishna, he must love Lord Jesus also. And if one perfectly loves Jesus he must love Krishna too. If he says, "Why shall I love Krishna? I shall love Jesus," then he has no knowledge. And if one says, "Why shall I love Jesus? I shall love Krishna", then he has no knowledge either. If one understands Krishna, then he will understand Jesus. If one understands Jesus, you'll understand Krishna too"

(Srila Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupada - Room conversation with Allen Ginsberg, May 12, 1969 / Columbus - Ohio)

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nice!!! I believe you are right with the electric comet. So are you expecting fires septemberish or will the tail of elenin affect us.
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[link to en.wikipedia.org]

Wikipedia has some information on Comet Biela also.

The comet was recovered on November 26, 1845, by Francesco de Vico. Initially a small, faint nebulosity, subsequent observations showed that something remarkable had happened to it. Matthew Fontaine Maury, observing on 14 January 1846, noted that an apparent companion was located 1 arc minute north of the comet.[4] After this announcement many astronomers began observing the comet, and noted that the two elements (usually referred to as "Comet A" and "Comet B" in modern nomenclature) alternated in brightness, developing parallel tails as they approached perihelion. Some observations indicated an "archway of cometary matter" extending between the two nuclei.[5]


The two components of Biela in 1852, as drawn by Secchi.
In 1852 the comet was again recovered more or less as predicted, with "Comet A" being recovered first, by Angelo Secchi on August 26.[6] "Comet B" was finally relocated on September 16, and once again both nuclei alternated in brightness during the period of observation. "A" was last detected on this apparition on September 26 and "B" on September 29, in both cases by Otto Wilhelm Struve. Subsequent orbital calculations indicated that the nuclei had probably split around 500 days before the 1845 apparition,[7] though more recent work has determined that it may have occurred near aphelion in late 1842.[8]
Neither part could be found on their predicted periodic returns in 1859 (in any case an unfavourable return for viewing), 1865, and 1872. However, on November 27, 1872, a brilliant meteor shower (3,000 per hour) was observed radiating from the part of the sky where the comet had been predicted to cross in September 1872. This was the date when Earth intersected the comet's trajectory. These meteors became known as the Andromedids or "Bielids" and it seems apparent that they indicated the death of the comet. The meteors were seen again on subsequent occasions for the rest of the 19th century, but have now faded away, probably due to gravitational disruption of the main filaments.
"A sense of common interest can be fostered among individuals, if they know that they are inter-connected, are parts of one Organic System and are the sons and daughters of one Father. Here is the task of all religions; to teach people that all beings of the world are closely inter-related. Although steadfastness or firm belief in God (Nistha) according to some particular faith and eligibility of the individual is congenial for healthy spiritual growth of every individual, religious bigotry which begets enmity is condemnable, as it is against the real interest of the individual and society. Real religion teaches love for one another. Lord Sri Krishna Chaitanya Mahaprabhu propagated the cult of all-embracing Divine Love which brings universal brotherhood on a transcendental plane.

(Srila Bhakti Dayita Madhava Maharaja )


"If one loves Krishna, he must love Lord Jesus also. And if one perfectly loves Jesus he must love Krishna too. If he says, "Why shall I love Krishna? I shall love Jesus," then he has no knowledge. And if one says, "Why shall I love Jesus? I shall love Krishna", then he has no knowledge either. If one understands Krishna, then he will understand Jesus. If one understands Jesus, you'll understand Krishna too"

(Srila Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupada - Room conversation with Allen Ginsberg, May 12, 1969 / Columbus - Ohio)

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nice!!! I believe you are right with the electric comet. So are you expecting fires septemberish or will the tail of elenin affect us.
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The best position to take on Comet Elenin is that we really don't know until the time arrives. Anyone can try to predict what will happen, but we have no idea of the Solar Conditions on that day.


What occurs will be conditional, based on the Space Weather at the time.

If there is a long vast tail, it is possible we could be caught up in it. The tail is always pointing away from the sun, like a windsock blowing on a flag pole.

It's possible it could graze us, but it still depends on what happens from this point on.

Comet Elenin splitting up into multiple parts is a big development and I personally think we should keep an eye on it. Just because it has only recently gotten dimmer does not mean it will not flare up again.


The misconceptions come from thinking that the comet is a giant icey ball loosely held together..
"A sense of common interest can be fostered among individuals, if they know that they are inter-connected, are parts of one Organic System and are the sons and daughters of one Father. Here is the task of all religions; to teach people that all beings of the world are closely inter-related. Although steadfastness or firm belief in God (Nistha) according to some particular faith and eligibility of the individual is congenial for healthy spiritual growth of every individual, religious bigotry which begets enmity is condemnable, as it is against the real interest of the individual and society. Real religion teaches love for one another. Lord Sri Krishna Chaitanya Mahaprabhu propagated the cult of all-embracing Divine Love which brings universal brotherhood on a transcendental plane.

(Srila Bhakti Dayita Madhava Maharaja )


"If one loves Krishna, he must love Lord Jesus also. And if one perfectly loves Jesus he must love Krishna too. If he says, "Why shall I love Krishna? I shall love Jesus," then he has no knowledge. And if one says, "Why shall I love Jesus? I shall love Krishna", then he has no knowledge either. If one understands Krishna, then he will understand Jesus. If one understands Jesus, you'll understand Krishna too"

(Srila Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupada - Room conversation with Allen Ginsberg, May 12, 1969 / Columbus - Ohio)

Transmigration Of The Soul. All you need to know about REINCARNATION

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Haha thanks but it's already pinned. I used my only karma for a global pin! I thought it was an important topic..
"A sense of common interest can be fostered among individuals, if they know that they are inter-connected, are parts of one Organic System and are the sons and daughters of one Father. Here is the task of all religions; to teach people that all beings of the world are closely inter-related. Although steadfastness or firm belief in God (Nistha) according to some particular faith and eligibility of the individual is congenial for healthy spiritual growth of every individual, religious bigotry which begets enmity is condemnable, as it is against the real interest of the individual and society. Real religion teaches love for one another. Lord Sri Krishna Chaitanya Mahaprabhu propagated the cult of all-embracing Divine Love which brings universal brotherhood on a transcendental plane.

(Srila Bhakti Dayita Madhava Maharaja )


"If one loves Krishna, he must love Lord Jesus also. And if one perfectly loves Jesus he must love Krishna too. If he says, "Why shall I love Krishna? I shall love Jesus," then he has no knowledge. And if one says, "Why shall I love Jesus? I shall love Krishna", then he has no knowledge either. If one understands Krishna, then he will understand Jesus. If one understands Jesus, you'll understand Krishna too"

(Srila Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupada - Room conversation with Allen Ginsberg, May 12, 1969 / Columbus - Ohio)

Transmigration Of The Soul. All you need to know about REINCARNATION

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[link to www.universetoday.com]
"Astronomers monitoring Comet Elenin have noticed the comet has decreased in brightness the past week, and the coma is now elongating and diffusing.

Some astronomers predict the comet will disintegrate
and not survive perihelion, its closest approach to the Sun."

I don't thing that's goog for planet Earth.

It will probable shower us with lot of junk
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I never understood the dirty ice ball theory how could,say a mile wide ball of ice have enough material to vent off a tail bigger than the sun in some cases. The comet doesnt have enough material to make such a tail.

Since u know more about the elec comet than me. what if any effect will it have on our sun if any?
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Fantastic. I don't think most people here will read all this, but it is yet another example of how history hints at our future. I like it when doom is intertwined with science, history and facts. Sooo much better!

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I never understood the dirty ice ball theory how could,say a mile wide ball of ice have enough material to vent off a tail bigger than the sun in some cases. The comet doesnt have enough material to make such a tail.

Since u know more about the elec comet than me. what if any effect will it have on our sun if any?
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No, it does not have the capacity to affect our Sun.

Our sun is actually affecting the Comet, and that is why it is splitting apart.

I won't be suprised if multiple fragments don't begin to shine brightly instead of just 1 comet now.


Keep an eye out on www.spaceweather.com to watch for Solar conditions in space around the time Comet Elenin and its fragments will be making a pass.
"A sense of common interest can be fostered among individuals, if they know that they are inter-connected, are parts of one Organic System and are the sons and daughters of one Father. Here is the task of all religions; to teach people that all beings of the world are closely inter-related. Although steadfastness or firm belief in God (Nistha) according to some particular faith and eligibility of the individual is congenial for healthy spiritual growth of every individual, religious bigotry which begets enmity is condemnable, as it is against the real interest of the individual and society. Real religion teaches love for one another. Lord Sri Krishna Chaitanya Mahaprabhu propagated the cult of all-embracing Divine Love which brings universal brotherhood on a transcendental plane.

(Srila Bhakti Dayita Madhava Maharaja )


"If one loves Krishna, he must love Lord Jesus also. And if one perfectly loves Jesus he must love Krishna too. If he says, "Why shall I love Krishna? I shall love Jesus," then he has no knowledge. And if one says, "Why shall I love Jesus? I shall love Krishna", then he has no knowledge either. If one understands Krishna, then he will understand Jesus. If one understands Jesus, you'll understand Krishna too"

(Srila Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupada - Room conversation with Allen Ginsberg, May 12, 1969 / Columbus - Ohio)

Transmigration Of The Soul. All you need to know about REINCARNATION

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I never understood the dirty ice ball theory how could,say a mile wide ball of ice have enough material to vent off a tail bigger than the sun in some cases. The comet doesnt have enough material to make such a tail.

Since u know more about the elec comet than me. what if any effect will it have on our sun if any?
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No, it does not have the capacity to affect our Sun.

Our sun is actually affecting the Comet, and that is why it is splitting apart.

I won't be suprised if multiple fragments don't begin to shine brightly instead of just 1 comet now.


Keep an eye out on www.spaceweather.com to watch for Solar conditions in space around the time Comet Elenin and its fragments will be making a pass.
 Quoting: SaveTheLivingEntities


It`s quite possbile that comets can affect the sun, as was the case with Neat in 2003: (it`s obviously up for debate, but it seems unlikely to me that 2 CMEs would erupt from the side of the sun where the comet was facing)

[link to www.thunderbolts.info]


good threads you got going, keep up the great work!
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[link to www.universetoday.com]
"Astronomers monitoring Comet Elenin have noticed the comet has decreased in brightness the past week, and the coma is now elongating and diffusing.

Some astronomers predict the comet will disintegrate
and not survive perihelion, its closest approach to the Sun."

I don't thing that's goog for planet Earth.

It will probable shower us with lot of junk
.
 Quoting: jarha


when they say it 'won't survive perihelion', do they want us to believe an object 4 miles in diameter will simply POOF, vanish into thin air? or thin space, sorry. lol

do they REALLY think we're that stupid?

what is the weight of material of a comet 4 KMs in diameter, material being SCATTERED in relatively close proximity to us, speaking in terms of space?

well, they have a density of 0.6g per cubic cm on average, so that's 600 kilos per cubic metre, and there's 64 billion cubic metres in a comet 4 Kms wide, assuming it's a perfect square, of course. chuckle

anyway, by my very rough calculations, that makes 38 billion 400 million metric tons of stuff that 'won't survive'? I think it's safe to say that it isn't a perfect square, but the 'disintegrated' material out there will still be in the 10s of billions of tons. Even a TINY fraction of that hitting us would be pretty bad.

nice.
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I never understood the dirty ice ball theory how could,say a mile wide ball of ice have enough material to vent off a tail bigger than the sun in some cases. The comet doesnt have enough material to make such a tail.

Since u know more about the elec comet than me. what if any effect will it have on our sun if any?
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No, it does not have the capacity to affect our Sun.

Our sun is actually affecting the Comet, and that is why it is splitting apart.

I won't be suprised if multiple fragments don't begin to shine brightly instead of just 1 comet now.


Keep an eye out on www.spaceweather.com to watch for Solar conditions in space around the time Comet Elenin and its fragments will be making a pass.
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astronut doesn't think so

he thinks they'll be too small
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I never understood the dirty ice ball theory how could,say a mile wide ball of ice have enough material to vent off a tail bigger than the sun in some cases. The comet doesnt have enough material to make such a tail.

Since u know more about the elec comet than me. what if any effect will it have on our sun if any?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1527992


No, it does not have the capacity to affect our Sun.

Our sun is actually affecting the Comet, and that is why it is splitting apart.

I won't be suprised if multiple fragments don't begin to shine brightly instead of just 1 comet now.


Keep an eye out on www.spaceweather.com to watch for Solar conditions in space around the time Comet Elenin and its fragments will be making a pass.
 Quoting: SaveTheLivingEntities


astronut doesn't think so

he thinks they'll be too small
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Well we'll find out won't we.

Astronut is a great amature astronomer and he sticks to his empiricism and journals.

But Astronut as far as I know has never really commented on the Electric Comets. He has not seen the verifiable science yet.


In the mean time, people who stick their neck out for the sake of truth are trying to elucidate the truth about Cometary Observations, how they do not conform to the generally accepted ideas about Comets.


There has to be great strides in science coming from somewhere, and it usually comes from people who break away from the mold.
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WHAT GOING ON WITH C 2010 /X1 ELENIN ?

Leonid Elenin is inquiring anbout light curve similarities to thsi comet though it is estimated that c 2010 /x1 's nucleus [4Km] is 10 times larger than comet linear [.44 km]......see comet Comet LINEAR (C/1999 S4)breakup in July Aug 2000


HUBBLE JULY 4-7 NUCLEUS BEGINS NON TIDAL BREAK UP!
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HUGE X RAY EMISSION SURVEYED 14-15 JULY

Using soft x-ray observations of the bright new comet C/1999 S4 (LINEAR) with the Chandra x-ray observatory, we have detected x-ray line emission created by charge exchange between highly ionized solar wind minor ions and neutral gases in the comet's coma. The emission morphology was symmetrically crescent shaped and extended out to 300,000 kilometers from the nucleus. The emission spectrum contains 6 lines at 320, 400, 490, 560, 600, and 670 electron volts, attributable to electron capture and radiative deexcitation by the solar wind species C+5, C+6, N+7, O+7, and O+8. A contemporaneous 7-day soft x-ray light curve obtained using the Extreme Ultraviolet Explorer demonstrates a large increase in the comet's emission coincident with a strong solar flare on 14 and 15 July 2000.

DISINTEGRATION COMPLETE 18-19 JULY

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We analyzed photometric measurements and images of comet C/LINEAR before perihelion and after its breakup. Results from our photometry data include a lower limit of 0.44 kilometer for the radius of the nucleus before breakup, and a determination that it was depleted in carbon-chain molecules relative to most other comets. Our imaging and modeling results, which include a constraint on the rotational state of the nucleus, indicate that the disintegration likely started on 18 or 19 July 2000. The total mass detectable in the dust tail after the breakup was 3 × 108 kilograms, comparable to one of the fragments in the Hubble Space Telescope images; we therefore infer that most of the comet's original mass is hidden in remnants between 1 millimeter and 50 meters in diameter.

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I never understood the dirty ice ball theory how could,say a mile wide ball of ice have enough material to vent off a tail bigger than the sun in some cases. The comet doesnt have enough material to make such a tail.

Since u know more about the elec comet than me. what if any effect will it have on our sun if any?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1527992


No, it does not have the capacity to affect our Sun.

Our sun is actually affecting the Comet, and that is why it is splitting apart.

I won't be suprised if multiple fragments don't begin to shine brightly instead of just 1 comet now.


Keep an eye out on www.spaceweather.com to watch for Solar conditions in space around the time Comet Elenin and its fragments will be making a pass.
 Quoting: SaveTheLivingEntities


astronut doesn't think so

he thinks they'll be too small
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1525382


Well we'll find out won't we.

Astronut is a great amature astronomer and he sticks to his empiricism and journals.

But Astronut as far as I know has never really commented on the Electric Comets. He has not seen the verifiable science yet.


In the mean time, people who stick their neck out for the sake of truth are trying to elucidate the truth about Cometary Observations, how they do not conform to the generally accepted ideas about Comets.


There has to be great strides in science coming from somewhere, and it usually comes from people who break away from the mold.
 Quoting: SaveTheLivingEntities


I never understood the dirty ice ball theory how could,say a mile wide ball of ice have enough material to vent off a tail bigger than the sun in some cases. The comet doesnt have enough material to make such a tail.

Since u know more about the elec comet than me. what if any effect will it have on our sun if any?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1527992


No, it does not have the capacity to affect our Sun.

Our sun is actually affecting the Comet, and that is why it is splitting apart.

I won't be suprised if multiple fragments don't begin to shine brightly instead of just 1 comet now.


Keep an eye out on www.spaceweather.com to watch for Solar conditions in space around the time Comet Elenin and its fragments will be making a pass.
 Quoting: SaveTheLivingEntities


astronut doesn't think so

he thinks they'll be too small
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1525382


Well we'll find out won't we.

Astronut is a great amature astronomer and he sticks to his empiricism and journals.

But Astronut as far as I know has never really commented on the Electric Comets. He has not seen the verifiable science yet.


In the mean time, people who stick their neck out for the sake of truth are trying to elucidate the truth about Cometary Observations, how they do not conform to the generally accepted ideas about Comets.


There has to be great strides in science coming from somewhere, and it usually comes from people who break away from the mold.
 Quoting: SaveTheLivingEntities


agreed

it wasn't so long ago the very idea of earth impacts was referred to as the 'giigle factor'
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'giggle factor' even
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I never understood the dirty ice ball theory how could,say a mile wide ball of ice have enough material to vent off a tail bigger than the sun in some cases. The comet doesnt have enough material to make such a tail.

Since u know more about the elec comet than me. what if any effect will it have on our sun if any?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1527992


No, it does not have the capacity to affect our Sun.

Our sun is actually affecting the Comet, and that is why it is splitting apart.

I won't be suprised if multiple fragments don't begin to shine brightly instead of just 1 comet now.


Keep an eye out on www.spaceweather.com to watch for Solar conditions in space around the time Comet Elenin and its fragments will be making a pass.
 Quoting: SaveTheLivingEntities


astronut doesn't think so

he thinks they'll be too small
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1525382


Well we'll find out won't we.

Astronut is a great amature astronomer and he sticks to his empiricism and journals.

But Astronut as far as I know has never really commented on the Electric Comets. He has not seen the verifiable science yet.


In the mean time, people who stick their neck out for the sake of truth are trying to elucidate the truth about Cometary Observations, how they do not conform to the generally accepted ideas about Comets.


There has to be great strides in science coming from somewhere, and it usually comes from people who break away from the mold.
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I will have to dig around, but he said he doesnt "believe in the electric universe theory".
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how cool will it be if tens, hundreds, THOUSANDS of little comets, all with their own little tails, go streaking through our night skies in the next few months?

as long as they STAY up there! lol
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Great info - thanks
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Thanks for all your trouble!

I understand this completely.
I realize what a daunting task it is to explain it to the uninitiated ...people like that narrow-minded Astronut.
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Awesome post. I talked about the same thing a few months ago. Keep up the good work.

Thread: Elenin will be visiting with another comet>>>2 Comets now approach at same time!!!


See the video around 3:30 min...talking about Elenin breaking up.




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There's plenty of room for all God's creatures, right next to the mashed potatoes...noli timere messorem
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Thanks for all your trouble!

I understand this completely.
I realize what a daunting task it is to explain it to the uninitiated ...people like that narrow-minded Astronut.
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You're welcome! I'm glad it was useful to you!

I have no doubt that Astronut is not as narrow-minded as he portrays, and is still in a constant learning phase just like me and you.

As the events that will unfold draw closer the best option is to remain neutral and observe. Anything out of the ordinary will definitely be scrutinized.
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Thanks OP, this event if true answers a lot of questions. Most were led to believe that comet being so small and so far away from earth posed no threat at all. They also laughed at the idea that earth passing through its tail would pose any kind of danger. Yet this theory really is a game changer. Not the comet itself but the tail which will consist of the entire comet (in small pieces).
And that is where the danger lies.

Bet none of the scientists ever thought of this happening until it started.lol
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Thanks OP, this event if true answers a lot of questions. Most were led to believe that comet being so small and so far away from earth posed no threat at all. They also laughed at the idea that earth passing through its tail would pose any kind of danger. Yet this theory really is a game changer. Not the comet itself but the tail which will consist of the entire comet (in small pieces).
And that is where the danger lies.

Bet none of the scientists ever thought of this happening until it started.lol
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i reckon Holmes gave them a BIG clue though.
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the tail of the comet and all the debris maybe the stars falling out of the sky in the bible ...?
Im hear for meyo ying ..
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Favorite post I've read in a very long while! WOW! Thanks so much for sharing. It makes a lot of sense, love it. Great to know our opponents out there in space so much better.

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Fantastic Job! It almost makes homework fun! Snark!

Yep there's more to come with this I think.
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The first question that came to my mind was, how big will these pieces be when they get here? I read the stories from 1871, and found no comfort in the results seen then. The only good news from 1871 was that it was fairly localized(globally speaking). I can think of a lot of places smaller than that fire that nobody would miss (like Washington DC).
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