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Thoughtful Discussion of the Gospel of Thomas

 
Queen Bea of Useless Knowledge (OP)

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awake and gospel don't belong in the same sentence.
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Gnosis IS awakening.

80. Jesus said, "Whoever has come to know the world has discovered the body, and whoever has discovered the body, of that one the world is not worthy."
"Chaos exists as a pool of possibilities that order draws from and organizes according to creative desire. Some things get tossed down the memory hole only to reemerge later when the need arises. Neither chaos nor order holds a monopoly on creation and destruction, creative or destructive chaos exists as does creative and destructive order." - ME! Yeah, Bea :) snoocherdoodle@gmail.com
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course the most intriguing statement is the beginning one

1. And he said, "Whoever discovers the interpretation of these sayings will not taste death."

this is also stated in the Gospel of Peace
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Jesus said, "If the flesh came into being because of spirit, that is a marvel, but if spirit came into being because of the body, that is a marvel of marvels.

Yet I marvel at how this great wealth has come to dwell in this poverty."

Jesus said, "Do not fret, from morning to evening and from evening to morning, [about your food--what you're going to eat, or about your clothing--] what you are going to wear. [You're much better than the lilies, which neither card nor spin.

As for you, when you have no garment, what will you put on? Who might add to your stature? That very one will give you your garment.]"


these quote are also wonderful
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Agreed, I've let go of vanity. Will own I was tied to it, the concept of external beauty. I covered my mirrors, eschewed my "makeup" and let my hair grow wild. I've felt closer to the source since then. External beauty means nothing... it's the internal that should be cultivated (in my view). I haven't had anyone running from me like I'm hideous, so it's all good, lol. I have noticed my waist long hair's beginning to make my family and friends uncomfortable, mostly women folk who seem... jealous or stifled though... asking me when I'll cut it. I won't. I feel it's as it should be.
"Chaos exists as a pool of possibilities that order draws from and organizes according to creative desire. Some things get tossed down the memory hole only to reemerge later when the need arises. Neither chaos nor order holds a monopoly on creation and destruction, creative or destructive chaos exists as does creative and destructive order." - ME! Yeah, Bea :) snoocherdoodle@gmail.com
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Jesus said, "If you bring forth what is within you, what you have will save you. If you do not have that within you, what you do not have within you [will] kill you."

100. They showed Jesus a gold coin and said to him, "The Roman emperor's people demand taxes from us."

He said to them, "Give the emperor what belongs to the emperor, give God what belongs to God, and give me what is mine."
"If you bring forth what is within you, what you have will save you. If you do not have that within you, what you do not have within you [will] kill you."

"Whoever has come to know the world has discovered a carcass, and whoever has discovered a carcass, of that person the world is not worthy."

"Those who know all, but are lacking in themselves, are utterly lacking."
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[link to www.gnosis.org]

What's your favorite part? Mine...

Jesus said, "Those who seek should not stop seeking until they find. When they find, they will be disturbed. When they are disturbed, they will marvel, and will reign over all. And after they have reigned they will rest."
 Quoting: Queen Bea of Useless Knowledge


LOVE that too. I am all over the GoT....it is amazing to me!
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It resonates with truth, feel it gold and glowing inside me. Soon. :)
"Chaos exists as a pool of possibilities that order draws from and organizes according to creative desire. Some things get tossed down the memory hole only to reemerge later when the need arises. Neither chaos nor order holds a monopoly on creation and destruction, creative or destructive chaos exists as does creative and destructive order." - ME! Yeah, Bea :) snoocherdoodle@gmail.com
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What your interpretation of this?

Jesus said to them, "When you make the two into one, and when you make the inner like the outer and the outer like the inner, and the upper like the lower, and when you make male and female into a single one, so that the male will not be male nor the female be female, when you make eyes in place of an eye, a hand in place of a hand, a foot in place of a foot, an image in place of an image, then you will enter [the kingdom]."
"If you bring forth what is within you, what you have will save you. If you do not have that within you, what you do not have within you [will] kill you."

"Whoever has come to know the world has discovered a carcass, and whoever has discovered a carcass, of that person the world is not worthy."

"Those who know all, but are lacking in themselves, are utterly lacking."
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What your interpretation of this?

Jesus said to them, "When you make the two into one, and when you make the inner like the outer and the outer like the inner, and the upper like the lower, and when you make male and female into a single one, so that the male will not be male nor the female be female, when you make eyes in place of an eye, a hand in place of a hand, a foot in place of a foot, an image in place of an image, then you will enter [the kingdom]."
 Quoting: Motion & Rest



When we realize we're all connected, sexless spirits who can escape our limitations of matter and become our "spirit forms" we see the world's but an illusion and we're free of it. To put it another way, dharma, to live in truth.

[link to gnosticteachings.org]
"Chaos exists as a pool of possibilities that order draws from and organizes according to creative desire. Some things get tossed down the memory hole only to reemerge later when the need arises. Neither chaos nor order holds a monopoly on creation and destruction, creative or destructive chaos exists as does creative and destructive order." - ME! Yeah, Bea :) snoocherdoodle@gmail.com
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[link to www.gnosis.org]

What's your favorite part? Mine...

Jesus said, "Those who seek should not stop seeking until they find. When they find, they will be disturbed. When they are disturbed, they will marvel, and will reign over all. And after they have reigned they will rest."
 Quoting: Queen Bea of Useless Knowledge


I believe the Gospel of Thomas ranks about 600+ on the David Hawkins scale. The last time I read it I was clearing out s :-)games I played eons and eons ago re struggles between masculine-type and feminine-type energies and thus I mostly remember the part that relates to that. If I read it again I might get something else "important" out of it.
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[link to www.gnosis.org]

What's your favorite part? Mine...

Jesus said, "Those who seek should not stop seeking until they find. When they find, they will be disturbed. When they are disturbed, they will marvel, and will reign over all. And after they have reigned they will rest."
 Quoting: Queen Bea of Useless Knowledge


I believe the Gospel of Thomas ranks about 600+ on the David Hawkins scale. The last time I read it I was clearing out s :-)games I played eons and eons ago re struggles between masculine-type and feminine-type energies and thus I mostly remember the part that relates to that. If I read it again I might get something else "important" out of it.
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There's pieces scattered everywhere for the seeker to find, I truly believe that. Don't think about it when you read, FEEL it, please :) I think the "feminist" version of the divine feminine scares some, they have no clue that true liberation of the divine feminine replinishes, enriches. The mother's unconditional love hidden in the shadows. Peace :)
"Chaos exists as a pool of possibilities that order draws from and organizes according to creative desire. Some things get tossed down the memory hole only to reemerge later when the need arises. Neither chaos nor order holds a monopoly on creation and destruction, creative or destructive chaos exists as does creative and destructive order." - ME! Yeah, Bea :) snoocherdoodle@gmail.com
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Jesus said, "Perhaps people think that I have come to cast peace upon the world. They do not know that I have come to cast conflicts upon the earth: fire, sword, war. I am here to sow descension,to turn the father against the son and the son against the father"
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Jesus said, "Perhaps people think that I have come to cast peace upon the world. They do not know that I have come to cast conflicts upon the earth: fire, sword, war. I am here to sow descension,to turn the father against the son and the son against the father"
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 761181


It's takes generations to show slaves their chains. The conflict has always been over freedom of the body, the soul, the spirit.
"Chaos exists as a pool of possibilities that order draws from and organizes according to creative desire. Some things get tossed down the memory hole only to reemerge later when the need arises. Neither chaos nor order holds a monopoly on creation and destruction, creative or destructive chaos exists as does creative and destructive order." - ME! Yeah, Bea :) snoocherdoodle@gmail.com
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Enjoying this thread
Bump for more.
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hiding
Removed post. Wrong thread

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Then I guess drink the rest and go back to sleep for a while, lol? :)
"Chaos exists as a pool of possibilities that order draws from and organizes according to creative desire. Some things get tossed down the memory hole only to reemerge later when the need arises. Neither chaos nor order holds a monopoly on creation and destruction, creative or destructive chaos exists as does creative and destructive order." - ME! Yeah, Bea :) snoocherdoodle@gmail.com
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Haha. I so posted that in the wrong thread! Sorry Bea. I guess that was like the equivalent of having a stalker drop his wallet while following you around! Lol. I think you know where I meant to post that!! Oops
I'll delete.
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[link to www.gnosis.org]

What's your favorite part? Mine...

Jesus said, "Those who seek should not stop seeking until they find. When they find, they will be disturbed. When they are disturbed, they will marvel, and will reign over all. And after they have reigned they will rest."
 Quoting: Queen Bea of Useless Knowledge


do you know what that means. i do.
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(17) Jesus says:
"I will give you what no eye has seen, and what no ear has heard,
and what no hand has touched, and what has not occurred to the human mind."

... he was a spaceman.
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awake and gospel don't belong in the same sentence.
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Gnosis IS awakening.

80. Jesus said, "Whoever has come to know the world has discovered the body, and whoever has discovered the body, of that one the world is not worthy."
 Quoting: Queen Bea of Useless Knowledge


"Whoever has come to know the world has discovered the fabric, and whoever has discovered the fabric, of that one the world is not worthy."

why do i desire to substitute fabric for body
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awake and gospel don't belong in the same sentence.
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Gnosis IS awakening.

80. Jesus said, "Whoever has come to know the world has discovered the body, and whoever has discovered the body, of that one the world is not worthy."
 Quoting: Queen Bea of Useless Knowledge


"Whoever has come to know the world has discovered the fabric, and whoever has discovered the fabric, of that one the world is not worthy."

why do i desire to substitute fabric for body
 Quoting: aether


I think its because your getting ready to inherit a spirit body in 3d to help bring about 4d. It should be more than just flesh and the fabric of the world as we know it.
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From the Testimony of Truth...

[link to www.gnosis.org]

"they asked what they have been bound with, and how they might properly release themselves. And they came to know themselves, who they are, or rather, where they are now, and what is the place in which they will rest from their senselessness, arriving at knowledge. These Christ will transfer to the heights, since they have renounced foolishness (and have) advanced to knowledge. And those who have knowledge ... "
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wow Bea!

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"After all, what goes into your mouth will not defile you; rather, it's what comes out of your mouth that will defile you."

the gospel of thomas rawks but my favs Enoch
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I love the Book of Enoch too ! People don't know what they're missing when they don't read it. It makes me think How much more was missing when they made the current Bibles. I think it has been tampered with big time although the Truth does stand out to me after I Pray about it. Even Jesus and His apostles knew of Enoch, yet there's no information on him in the current Bibles..
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awake and gospel don't belong in the same sentence.
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Gnosis IS awakening.

80. Jesus said, "Whoever has come to know the world has discovered the body, and whoever has discovered the body, of that one the world is not worthy."
 Quoting: Queen Bea of Useless Knowledge


"Whoever has come to know the world has discovered the fabric, and whoever has discovered the fabric, of that one the world is not worthy."

why do i desire to substitute fabric for body
 Quoting: aether


I once had a recurring dream where people kept asking me to help them hide a body. It always clicks when I read this passage, the hidden body... the carcass of matter, the tomb. It helps me remember the meatsuit's just a vehicle my soul drives around in this world. It's meaningless, yet I couldn't interact with the material world without it. Some days I'd love to trade it in for a newer model, lmao... and others I think about it not at all. :)
"Chaos exists as a pool of possibilities that order draws from and organizes according to creative desire. Some things get tossed down the memory hole only to reemerge later when the need arises. Neither chaos nor order holds a monopoly on creation and destruction, creative or destructive chaos exists as does creative and destructive order." - ME! Yeah, Bea :) snoocherdoodle@gmail.com
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awake and gospel don't belong in the same sentence.
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Gnosis IS awakening.

80. Jesus said, "Whoever has come to know the world has discovered the body, and whoever has discovered the body, of that one the world is not worthy."
 Quoting: Queen Bea of Useless Knowledge


"Whoever has come to know the world has discovered the fabric, and whoever has discovered the fabric, of that one the world is not worthy."

why do i desire to substitute fabric for body
 Quoting: aether


I once had a recurring dream where people kept asking me to help them hide a body. It always clicks when I read this passage, the hidden body... the carcass of matter , the tomb. It helps me remember the meatsuit's just a vehicle my soul drives around in this world. It's meaningless, yet I couldn't interact with the material world without it. Some days I'd love to trade it in for a newer model, lmao... and others I think about it not at all. :)
 Quoting: Miss Portinari


yes that is my feeling, nonmaterial/material
i have never read these books although recently the desire awakens but what i always knew because there can be no other motive
the heavy editing of the new testament occurred for the single purpose all editing occurs
to form the message that fits the desire of the editor not the author
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awake and gospel don't belong in the same sentence.
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Gnosis IS awakening.

80. Jesus said, "Whoever has come to know the world has discovered the body, and whoever has discovered the body, of that one the world is not worthy."
 Quoting: Queen Bea of Useless Knowledge


"Whoever has come to know the world has discovered the fabric, and whoever has discovered the fabric, of that one the world is not worthy."

why do i desire to substitute fabric for body
 Quoting: aether


I think its because your getting ready to inherit a spirit body in 3d to help bring about 4d. It should be more than just flesh and the fabric of the world as we know it.
 Quoting: HilosPP


you know hills
you may be right 1rof1
it`s a mood thing
i imagine

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and guess what
just before the new testament pops up
what do you think happened to the old testament

Great Assembly

The Great Assembly "The Men of the Great Assembly" , also known as the Great Synagogue, was, according to Jewish tradition, an assembly of 120 scribes, sages, and prophets, in the period from the end of the Biblical prophets to the time of the development of Rabbinic Judaism, marking a transition from an era of prophets to an era of Rabbis. They lived in a period of about two centuries ending c. 70 CE

Among the developments in Judaism that are attributed to them are the fixing of the Jewish Biblical canon, including the books of Ezekiel, Daniel, Esther, and the Twelve Minor Prophets; the introduction of the triple classification of the oral law, dividing the study of the Mishnah (in the larger sense) into the three branches of midrash, halakot, and aggadot; the introduction of the Feast of Purim; and the institution of the prayer known as the "Shemoneh 'Esreh" as well as the synagogal prayers, rituals, and benedictions.
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it got a serious edit

now isn`t that a surprise lmao
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and guess what
just before the new testament pops up
what do you think happened to the old testament

Great Assembly

The Great Assembly "The Men of the Great Assembly" , also known as the Great Synagogue, was, according to Jewish tradition, an assembly of 120 scribes, sages, and prophets, in the period from the end of the Biblical prophets to the time of the development of Rabbinic Judaism, marking a transition from an era of prophets to an era of Rabbis. They lived in a period of about two centuries ending c. 70 CE

Among the developments in Judaism that are attributed to them are the fixing of the Jewish Biblical canon, including the books of Ezekiel, Daniel, Esther, and the Twelve Minor Prophets; the introduction of the triple classification of the oral law, dividing the study of the Mishnah (in the larger sense) into the three branches of midrash, halakot, and aggadot; the introduction of the Feast of Purim; and the institution of the prayer known as the "Shemoneh 'Esreh" as well as the synagogal prayers, rituals, and benedictions.
 Quoting: history

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

it got a serious edit

now isn`t that a surprise lmao
 Quoting: aether


you know who would be eligible today on the great assembly of the great and good of society?

mr bush snr, mrs thatcher, etc

why people dream that the good and great of those days are magically different to the good and great today i have no clue

nuts alien03
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Many many thanks Queen Bea bumpan 5*
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I'm moderating this thread closely to remove any inciting remarks from "Christians" threatened by what's being presenting and oddball weirdo remarks that add nothing to the conversation. We keep getting a really persistent AC who's threatened by our discussion, lmao.

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