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!!! REVENGE AGAINST THE SMART METERS!!! HOW TO MAKE THEM DUMB!!!

 
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Here is a government review that is happening in my state (Victoria, Australia). Although this review is finished the government is still rolling them out (as a legacy of the previous government) until a verdict is found.

Here are some highlighted points:

Some clear themes emerged from the submissions that were received from members of the public. They included:

concerns that smart meters were imposing an additional cost on households without any apparent benefit;
concerns that time of use tariffs would impose additional costs on households;
that some individuals, including the elderly, the disabled and other disadvantaged groups, would be unable to change their energy consumption if time of use tariffs were implemented;
concerns about health issues associated with smart meters, including radiation;
concerns about the accuracy of smart meters and the inability of households to check energy consumption levels;
concerns that installers of smart meters were not appropriately qualified;
individuals making it known that they did not want a smart meter installed at their property, or wanted their meter removed; and
where people had heard about potential benefits, they had insufficient information about when those benefits could be realised and how they could use their Smart Meter to access those benefits.

More info:

[link to www.dtf.vic.gov.au]
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Are all the digital meters that are read from the office smart meters?
They never come in person to read my meter and its correct on the bill so do I have one too.
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why on earth would they use a wireless antenna device, thats rather unreliable... why not just send the the information through the power line?
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good work.
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They just put one in my house too but the antenna is inside the meter no way to block it.
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Edison Electric recently installed a smart meter on my house, without my permission or knowledge. When I read about the dangers and invasion of privacy caused by these smart meters and discovered that I now had one, I was pissed. Too late to do anything about it? WRONG!!!

You see, the antenna for these meters is located inside the glass (or plastic) bulb. All I had to do was to cover the entire glass bulb with aluminum foil, making sure that the foil was grounded to the metal housing behind the bulb. This shields against any RF or Microwave transmissions, which both protects you from the radiation and also defeats the entire purpose of the smart meter, since they can't read it remotely.

Then I sat back and waited for them to realize that they weren't getting any readings from my house. I checked the foil periodically to see if it was still there. Today it happened. They had to send some one out to rip the foil off of my meter to get a manual reading! I found the foil ripped off and laying on the ground. Naturally, I just re-applied the foil and now look forward to them having to send somebody out each and every month to remove the foil if they want to get a reading. If everyone would do this, it would defeat the entire smart meter program! They would have to re-think all of the money that they are spending to install these dangerous and privacy invading devices simply because people can render them dumb with 10 cents worth of aluminum foil!

I say everybody should rise up and "FOIL" this disgusting smart meter program!

Hey, its my house, I can apply foil where ever I want!

resist
 Quoting: Sky Pilot


YOU MUST BE A LITTLE SPECIAL!!!???
NOT LIKE LIKE A FULL ON TARD, BUT LIKE HOMER SIMPSON SPECIAL... RIGHT...???

You complain of privacy concerns but don't mind a stranger coming onto your property every month to read a meter...

You complain about the money they spend, but don't consider how much they'll save by not having to send some stranger to your house every month...

Then you mess with them with your foil, and want others to follow suit... HOW FREAKING BORED ARE YOU... GET A LIFE...

I signed up for this voluntarily, and I love it!!!

What's not to... no strangers, accurate billing, up to date statistics, better stability and regulation for the power companies...

You might be shocked to hear, but I even went as far as letting them put a special thing to turn off my AC a few min at a time when the plant is being over-drained so that they don't have to get more turbines...

Just trying to help them help me... not just being some bored, ignorant prick...
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The only thing that makes sense with all you ragers on here is that either yall or someone you know was a meter reader, and you just got your easy jobs replaced by a $20 antenna...

Hah... go learn an actual skill and contribute to a productive society... not get pissed and attack meters because you want to be lazy with a cushy lifestyle...
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neodymium magnets are good- for lots of stuff!
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thanks, gotcha
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Looks like we too are having smart meters here in the uk sometime this year or next , can any of you americans make a video on how to foil these meters, step by step would nice seeing has we don't know what a antenna looks like .
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So glad this is being confronted. These things are everywhere now in Southern California/Los Angeles. A group here was going up against the utility company with an M.D. writing letters for some who had documented 'environmental sensitivities' to be excluded from these meters. The M.D. included documentation of laws that are in place to protect those with environmental sensitivities. (I can get copies of these laws if needed, don't have right here now though) The local utilities blew it all off and did not budge an inch. Some people have installed anti-EMF devices in their homes to combat these evil EMF's that these LAME meters emit. There is a site called LessEMF.com that helps protect in some ways. BTW, did you know they make anti-EMF paint? Sheets? who would have thunk? LOL
The foil is genius. Count us in. We will spread word around here bigtime.

If you think one of those evil little boogers is bad, try living in a large apartment building and the utility box which holds 20-50-100+ of these things sits outside very close to your window. SOOOOOOOOOOO bad!!!!!
Tin Foil is great. Keep this site going. It is nice to see this on here.
And BTW, I would trade an average bill if need be for a decent night's sleep, like we had in the days before these things.
To whoever said 'just call the company'. No way. This area has tried lawyers, lawsuits, M.D. guided lawsuits. You have got to be kidding me if you think that would work. Its the Mother F-ing PTB.

FOIL!!! now I can go to sleep happy. I lOVE IT!!!!


ps how do you foil a whole panel of these things? hmmmm. thinking.hf
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this happened to me. very emf sensitive. had to move my child and I out. got sooooo sick. still recovering .lost my security deposit, but felt like I almost lost my life.
SMART BOXES ARE UNHEALTHY FOR YOU AND YOUR CHILDREN. WAKE UP AMERICA
thank you OP
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I heard of people doing that round here in West London on council estates, but they were sent 'massive' bills by British Gas afterwards & ordered to pay a whole.. lot.. more!
Not that.. easy.. to beat the system! Another way maybe..?
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So I guess due to the millions of people without power from hurricane Irene, the electric companies are starving for data!
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I bought my house new in 06, with smart meter installed.

Here is what the power company claims:

[link to www.aps.com]
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Only one problem they will give you an estimated bill.

true
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And be sure it will be WAAAAAAAY higher than if you didn't apply the foil.

Learn to ween yourself off the grid and this will be your greatest revenge and their greatest downfall, because no matter how much they talk about the public going "green", they depend on our using their power like crack dealers depends on their crack junkies.
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neodymium magnets are good- for lots of stuff!
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True. But how is this relevant to anything?
 Quoting: Sky Pilot


very relevant, it slows or stops meters with rotating stuff in it.(400kg+ magnet please)

i´ve not seen a meter in germany that could not be slowed by a neodymium 400kg+.
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They just put one in my house too but the antenna is inside the meter no way to block it.
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Wrap the entire works in foil.
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Edison Electric recently installed a smart meter on my house, without my permission or knowledge. When I read about the dangers and invasion of privacy caused by these smart meters and discovered that I now had one, I was pissed. Too late to do anything about it? WRONG!!!

You see, the antenna for these meters is located inside the glass (or plastic) bulb. All I had to do was to cover the entire glass bulb with aluminum foil, making sure that the foil was grounded to the metal housing behind the bulb. This shields against any RF or Microwave transmissions, which both protects you from the radiation and also defeats the entire purpose of the smart meter, since they can't read it remotely.

Then I sat back and waited for them to realize that they weren't getting any readings from my house. I checked the foil periodically to see if it was still there. Today it happened. They had to send some one out to rip the foil off of my meter to get a manual reading! I found the foil ripped off and laying on the ground. Naturally, I just re-applied the foil and now look forward to them having to send somebody out each and every month to remove the foil if they want to get a reading. If everyone would do this, it would defeat the entire smart meter program! They would have to re-think all of the money that they are spending to install these dangerous and privacy invading devices simply because people can render them dumb with 10 cents worth of aluminum foil!

I say everybody should rise up and "FOIL" this disgusting smart meter program!

Hey, its my house, I can apply foil where ever I want!

resist
 Quoting: Sky Pilot


YOU MUST BE A LITTLE SPECIAL!!!???
NOT LIKE LIKE A FULL ON TARD, BUT LIKE HOMER SIMPSON SPECIAL... RIGHT...???

You complain of privacy concerns but don't mind a stranger coming onto your property every month to read a meter...

You complain about the money they spend, but don't consider how much they'll save by not having to send some stranger to your house every month...

Then you mess with them with your foil, and want others to follow suit... HOW FREAKING BORED ARE YOU... GET A LIFE...

I signed up for this voluntarily, and I love it!!!

What's not to... no strangers, accurate billing, up to date statistics, better stability and regulation for the power companies...

You might be shocked to hear, but I even went as far as letting them put a special thing to turn off my AC a few min at a time when the plant is being over-drained so that they don't have to get more turbines...

Just trying to help them help me... not just being some bored, ignorant prick...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1492202





You are an obvious shill.

You'll suffer the same end, as all other paid liars. I'd truly hate to be in your shoes, when the day comes.

God definitely won't buy your BS.
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Edison Electric recently installed a smart meter on my house, without my permission or knowledge. When I read about the dangers and invasion of privacy caused by these smart meters and discovered that I now had one, I was pissed. Too late to do anything about it? WRONG!!!

You see, the antenna for these meters is located inside the glass (or plastic) bulb. All I had to do was to cover the entire glass bulb with aluminum foil, making sure that the foil was grounded to the metal housing behind the bulb. This shields against any RF or Microwave transmissions, which both protects you from the radiation and also defeats the entire purpose of the smart meter, since they can't read it remotely.

Then I sat back and waited for them to realize that they weren't getting any readings from my house. I checked the foil periodically to see if it was still there. Today it happened. They had to send some one out to rip the foil off of my meter to get a manual reading! I found the foil ripped off and laying on the ground. Naturally, I just re-applied the foil and now look forward to them having to send somebody out each and every month to remove the foil if they want to get a reading. If everyone would do this, it would defeat the entire smart meter program! They would have to re-think all of the money that they are spending to install these dangerous and privacy invading devices simply because people can render them dumb with 10 cents worth of aluminum foil!

I say everybody should rise up and "FOIL" this disgusting smart meter program!

Hey, its my house, I can apply foil where ever I want!

resist
 Quoting: Sky Pilot


YOU MUST BE A LITTLE SPECIAL!!!???
NOT LIKE LIKE A FULL ON TARD, BUT LIKE HOMER SIMPSON SPECIAL... RIGHT...???

You complain of privacy concerns but don't mind a stranger coming onto your property every month to read a meter...

You complain about the money they spend, but don't consider how much they'll save by not having to send some stranger to your house every month...

Then you mess with them with your foil, and want others to follow suit... HOW FREAKING BORED ARE YOU... GET A LIFE...

I signed up for this voluntarily, and I love it!!!

What's not to... no strangers, accurate billing, up to date statistics, better stability and regulation for the power companies...

You might be shocked to hear, but I even went as far as letting them put a special thing to turn off my AC a few min at a time when the plant is being over-drained so that they don't have to get more turbines...

Just trying to help them help me... not just being some bored, ignorant prick...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1492202





"I signed up for this voluntarily, and I love it!!!"




But what about those of us who aren't idiots, and don't WANT to "voluntarily" take it... you clueless asshole?
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Beautiful OP!
We're starting to see them in Australia.
Saves me from using a sledge hammer on them.

Next time time they come around to read the meter because of the foil cover, get your viscious dog to guard it, hehehe.
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While a sedge hammer may be tempting, please don't do it as it may result in your electrocution death.
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Use a wooden or plastic handle.
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so your all whining about the smart meter an invasion of privacy, but what about all your cell phones huh..

sheep
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neodymium magnets are good- for lots of stuff!
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True. But how is this relevant to anything?
 Quoting: Sky Pilot


Please, this is interesting...elaborate if you would.
It's ok, it's only a hairball.
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Beautiful OP!
We're starting to see them in Australia.
Saves me from using a sledge hammer on them.

Next time time they come around to read the meter because of the foil cover, get your viscious dog to guard it, hehehe.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1528813


Put a few pet Alligators in front of the meters
CEO OF MILK SUPERPOWERS AND NASTY AVATARS(I have been told)

SO THE GOTCHA'S DON'T GET YOU

BAM!!! REALITY HITS YOU HARD BRO!!!!!!
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Bah, for shame on my end. Local energy company installed these last month. I was thinking of ways to get around their smart metering ways myself, RF blockers, etc. Then I realized that are hooked right into the local fiber optic connection. Can't interfere with that or I'll be facing vandalism charges.

On the bright side, I'm learning how to get into this system to monitor this data on my own and hopefully use their control parameters in my own way instead of being held to their automated system.
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Edison Electric recently installed a smart meter on my house, without my permission or knowledge. When I read about the dangers and invasion of privacy caused by these smart meters and discovered that I now had one, I was pissed. Too late to do anything about it? WRONG!!!

You see, the antenna for these meters is located inside the glass (or plastic) bulb. All I had to do was to cover the entire glass bulb with aluminum foil, making sure that the foil was grounded to the metal housing behind the bulb. This shields against any RF or Microwave transmissions, which both protects you from the radiation and also defeats the entire purpose of the smart meter, since they can't read it remotely.

Then I sat back and waited for them to realize that they weren't getting any readings from my house. I checked the foil periodically to see if it was still there. Today it happened. They had to send some one out to rip the foil off of my meter to get a manual reading! I found the foil ripped off and laying on the ground. Naturally, I just re-applied the foil and now look forward to them having to send somebody out each and every month to remove the foil if they want to get a reading. If everyone would do this, it would defeat the entire smart meter program! They would have to re-think all of the money that they are spending to install these dangerous and privacy invading devices simply because people can render them dumb with 10 cents worth of aluminum foil!

I say everybody should rise up and "FOIL" this disgusting smart meter program!

Hey, its my house, I can apply foil where ever I want!

resist
 Quoting: Sky Pilot


YOU MUST BE A LITTLE SPECIAL!!!???
NOT LIKE LIKE A FULL ON TARD, BUT LIKE HOMER SIMPSON SPECIAL... RIGHT...???

You complain of privacy concerns but don't mind a stranger coming onto your property every month to read a meter...

You complain about the money they spend, but don't consider how much they'll save by not having to send some stranger to your house every month...

Then you mess with them with your foil, and want others to follow suit... HOW FREAKING BORED ARE YOU... GET A LIFE...

I signed up for this voluntarily, and I love it!!!

What's not to... no strangers, accurate billing, up to date statistics, better stability and regulation for the power companies...

You might be shocked to hear, but I even went as far as letting them put a special thing to turn off my AC a few min at a time when the plant is being over-drained so that they don't have to get more turbines...

Just trying to help them help me... not just being some bored, ignorant prick...
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Obvious shill fuckhead is obvious
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To all the incredibly silly people saying you will get an estimated reading if you block the automated smart reading.

NO!

Why d'you think they come round to manually read it instead? To, er, get a reading. Which they, er, calculate your bill with!

Jesus. A little bit of 2-and-2 please.

And, guess what? You can always read the damn thing yourself!
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Edison Electric recently installed a smart meter on my house, without my permission or knowledge. When I read about the dangers and invasion of privacy caused by these smart meters and discovered that I now had one, I was pissed. Too late to do anything about it? WRONG!!!

You see, the antenna for these meters is located inside the glass (or plastic) bulb. All I had to do was to cover the entire glass bulb with aluminum foil, making sure that the foil was grounded to the metal housing behind the bulb. This shields against any RF or Microwave transmissions, which both protects you from the radiation and also defeats the entire purpose of the smart meter, since they can't read it remotely.

Then I sat back and waited for them to realize that they weren't getting any readings from my house. I checked the foil periodically to see if it was still there. Today it happened. They had to send some one out to rip the foil off of my meter to get a manual reading! I found the foil ripped off and laying on the ground. Naturally, I just re-applied the foil and now look forward to them having to send somebody out each and every month to remove the foil if they want to get a reading. If everyone would do this, it would defeat the entire smart meter program! They would have to re-think all of the money that they are spending to install these dangerous and privacy invading devices simply because people can render them dumb with 10 cents worth of aluminum foil!

I say everybody should rise up and "FOIL" this disgusting smart meter program!

Hey, its my house, I can apply foil where ever I want!

resist
 Quoting: Sky Pilot


YOU MUST BE A LITTLE SPECIAL!!!???
NOT LIKE LIKE A FULL ON TARD, BUT LIKE HOMER SIMPSON SPECIAL... RIGHT...???

You complain of privacy concerns but don't mind a stranger coming onto your property every month to read a meter...

You complain about the money they spend, but don't consider how much they'll save by not having to send some stranger to your house every month...

Then you mess with them with your foil, and want others to follow suit... HOW FREAKING BORED ARE YOU... GET A LIFE...

I signed up for this voluntarily, and I love it!!!

What's not to... no strangers, accurate billing, up to date statistics, better stability and regulation for the power companies...

You might be shocked to hear, but I even went as far as letting them put a special thing to turn off my AC a few min at a time when the plant is being over-drained so that they don't have to get more turbines...

Just trying to help them help me... not just being some bored, ignorant prick...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1492202

Obvious shill fuckhead is obvious
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1191408


Electric company shills 100% lol
Have you noticed?
People doesn't have any honor these days... people are so desperate for money
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To all the incredibly silly people saying you will get an estimated reading if you block the automated smart reading.

NO!

Why d'you think they come round to manually read it instead? To, er, get a reading. Which they, er, calculate your bill with!

Jesus. A little bit of 2-and-2 please.

And, guess what? You can always read the damn thing yourself!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1528644


Depending upon where you live, they can estimate it for up to a year without penalties, and indefinitely if you do not complain to the regulating body such as PUC, PSC, etc. The thing about that is if YOU caused the meter to fail and they underestimate the bill for 2 years, then you have to pay the difference all at once when they finally get a reading.
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Not that I'm for the power company but eventually if you keep doing this they will take the meter of if you keep messing with it then you wont have any electricity.

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