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!!! REVENGE AGAINST THE SMART METERS!!! HOW TO MAKE THEM DUMB!!!

 
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Who's electricity is it being used to send these signals? The home owner or the power companies?
 Quoting: JUSTSURVIVEBABY


Homeowners, and I sent this out to ping back with 2 electricians who are pissed about 'smart meters'. I think they may be ditched in BC anyhow but...If they come onto my property to rip foil from a meter they are going to get bit.
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Depends on the type of AMR used.

Some have internal batteries with 15+ years life expectancy (at least the water meter ones, and some gas meter ones, do).
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Who's electricity is it being used to send these signals? The home owner or the power companies?
 Quoting: JUSTSURVIVEBABY


Who purchased that power you moron. When I buy something I don't like being told what I can do with it.
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"...they underestimate the bill for 2 years, then you have to pay the difference all at once when they finally get a reading."

So don't wait 2 years. Send readings monthly, quarterly or whichever period you prefer.
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Thats awesome! I wish I could see their faces when they realize things arn't working the way they want them too! lol


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I bought my house new in 06, with smart meter installed.

Here is what the power company claims:

[link to www.aps.com]
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Anyway you can copy and paste details available to you so we can see just what info is obtainable by the customer? (feel free to remove data for your privacy just add it in that you edited)
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You could always just buy an older type meter, replace it and leave theirs on the ground...

Just be sure to put on the start reading if it's not zero...

Just like the cable companies, you can use your own as long as it IS compatible.
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Edison Electric recently installed a smart meter on my house, without my permission or knowledge. When I read about the dangers and invasion of privacy caused by these smart meters and discovered that I now had one, I was pissed. Too late to do anything about it? WRONG!!!

You see, the antenna for these meters is located inside the glass (or plastic) bulb. All I had to do was to cover the entire glass bulb with aluminum foil, making sure that the foil was grounded to the metal housing behind the bulb. This shields against any RF or Microwave transmissions, which both protects you from the radiation and also defeats the entire purpose of the smart meter, since they can't read it remotely.

Then I sat back and waited for them to realize that they weren't getting any readings from my house. I checked the foil periodically to see if it was still there. Today it happened. They had to send some one out to rip the foil off of my meter to get a manual reading! I found the foil ripped off and laying on the ground. Naturally, I just re-applied the foil and now look forward to them having to send somebody out each and every month to remove the foil if they want to get a reading. If everyone would do this, it would defeat the entire smart meter program! They would have to re-think all of the money that they are spending to install these dangerous and privacy invading devices simply because people can render them dumb with 10 cents worth of aluminum foil!

I say everybody should rise up and "FOIL" this disgusting smart meter program!

Hey, its my house, I can apply foil where ever I want!

resist
 Quoting: Sky Pilot


YOU MUST BE A LITTLE SPECIAL!!!???
NOT LIKE LIKE A FULL ON TARD, BUT LIKE HOMER SIMPSON SPECIAL... RIGHT...???

You complain of privacy concerns but don't mind a stranger coming onto your property every month to read a meter...

You complain about the money they spend, but don't consider how much they'll save by not having to send some stranger to your house every month...

Then you mess with them with your foil, and want others to follow suit... HOW FREAKING BORED ARE YOU... GET A LIFE...

I signed up for this voluntarily, and I love it!!!

What's not to... no strangers, accurate billing, up to date statistics, better stability and regulation for the power companies...

You might be shocked to hear, but I even went as far as letting them put a special thing to turn off my AC a few min at a time when the plant is being over-drained so that they don't have to get more turbines...

Just trying to help them help me... not just being some bored, ignorant prick...
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And when you or your family strangely develop cancer years down the road, don't come complaining here - do you even know the engery levels these devices are giving off?
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By the way the below letter was submitted on GLP from GL2010:

i sent this to my electric company:



"Date of letter:

NOTICE OF NO CONSENT TO TRESPASS AND SURVEILLANCE, NOTICE OF LIABILITY

Dear (Energy Provider) and all agents, officers, employees, contractors and interested parties,

If you intend to install a "Smart Meter" or any activity monitoring device at the above address, you and all other parties are hereby denied consent for installation and use of all such device on the above property and installation and use of any activity monitoring device is hereby refused and prohibited. Informed consent is legally required for installation of any surveillance device and any device that will collect and transmit private and personal data to undisclosed and unauthorized parties for undisclosed and unauthorized purposes. Authorization for sharing of personal and private information may only be given by the originator and subject of that information. That authorization is hereby denied and refused with regard to the above property and all its occupants. "Smart Meters" violate the law and cause endangerment to residents by the following factors:

1. They individually identify electrical devices inside the home and record when they are operated causing invasion of privacy.

2. They monitor household activity and occupancy in violation of rights and domestic security.

3. They transmit wireless signals which may be intercepted by unauthorized and unknown parties. Those signals can be used to monitor behavior and occupancy and they can be used by criminals to aid criminal activity against the occupants.

4. Data about occupant's daily habits and activities are collected, recorded and stored in permanent databases which are accessed by parties not authorized or invited to know and share that private data.

5. Those with access to the smart meter databases can review a permanent history of household activities complete with calendar and time-of-day metrics to gain a highly invasive and detailed view of the lives of the occupants.

6. Those databases may be shared with, or fall into the hands of criminals, blackmailers, law enforcement, private hackers of wireless transmissions, power company employees, and other unidentified parties who may act against the interests of the occupants under metered surveillance.

7. "Smart Meters" are, by definition, surveillance devices which violate Federal and State wiretapping laws by recording and storing databases of private and personal activities and behaviors without the consent or knowledge of those people who are monitored.

8. It is possible for example, with analysis of certain "Smart Meter" data, for unauthorized and distant parties to determine medical conditions, sexual activities, physical locations of persons within the home, vacancy patterns and personal information and habits of the occupants.

9. Your company has not adequately disclosed the particular recording and transmission capabilities of the smart meter, or the extent of the data that will be recorded, stored and shared, or the purposes to which the data will and will not be put.

I forbid, refuse and deny consent of any installation and use of any monitoring, eavesdropping, and surveillance devices on my property, my place of residence and my place of occupancy. That applies to and includes "Smart Meters" and activity monitoring devices of any and all kinds. Any attempt to install any such device directed at me, other inhabitants, guests, my property or residence will constitute trespass, stalking, wiretapping and unlawful surveillance, all prohibited and punishable by law through criminal and civil complaints. All persons, government agencies and private organizations responsible for installing or operating monitoring devices directed at or recording my activities, which I have not specifically authorized in writing, will be fully liable for any violations, intrusions, harm or negative consequences caused or made possible by those devices whether those negative consequences are justified by "law" or not..
This is legal notice. After this delivery the liabilities listed above may not be denied or avoided by parties named and implied in this notice.

Notice to principal is notice to agent and notice to agent is notice to principal. All rights reserved.

Signature"
Thread: They just put a new "SMART METER" on my home. What to expect? (Page 2)
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[link to en.wikipedia.org]

It is your house

You can build a decorative double layer copper box surrounding the meter to hide it's ugliness
all you need is a lift up door for them to read the dials when they come by
Thin Plywood lined inside and out with copper and grounded is all you need
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1528398


Yes. You could do that, but they will probably rip it off anyhow. Aluminum foil is cheaper and easier to replace.
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A video of an associate ripping apart grandmas bird-barn and yarn wall will go viral.
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Edison Electric recently installed a smart meter on my house, without my permission or knowledge. When I read about the dangers and invasion of privacy caused by these smart meters and discovered that I now had one, I was pissed. Too late to do anything about it? WRONG!!!

You see, the antenna for these meters is located inside the glass (or plastic) bulb. All I had to do was to cover the entire glass bulb with aluminum foil, making sure that the foil was grounded to the metal housing behind the bulb. This shields against any RF or Microwave transmissions, which both protects you from the radiation and also defeats the entire purpose of the smart meter, since they can't read it remotely.

Then I sat back and waited for them to realize that they weren't getting any readings from my house. I checked the foil periodically to see if it was still there. Today it happened. They had to send some one out to rip the foil off of my meter to get a manual reading! I found the foil ripped off and laying on the ground. Naturally, I just re-applied the foil and now look forward to them having to send somebody out each and every month to remove the foil if they want to get a reading. If everyone would do this, it would defeat the entire smart meter program! They would have to re-think all of the money that they are spending to install these dangerous and privacy invading devices simply because people can render them dumb with 10 cents worth of aluminum foil!

I say everybody should rise up and "FOIL" this disgusting smart meter program!

Hey, its my house, I can apply foil where ever I want!

resist
 Quoting: Sky Pilot
Yes but what will happen is that they will eventually pass a law where you won't be able to touch your meter or they will fine you for breaking the law. These new world order devils don't give up easy. We are becoming a fascist/socialist New World Order State, day by day!!

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Only one problem they will give you an estimated bill.

true
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Yep. They will get their revenge.
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Where are your electricity meter in the USA ?
In France, it's usually inside the house, nobody would be able to change it without our knowledge and permission.
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I say everybody should rise up and "FOIL" this disgusting smart meter program!

Hey, its my house, I can apply foil where ever I want!

.
 Quoting: Sky Pilot
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Just wait ... you will soon see threats from the power company
saying that if you foil your meter, you're tampering with it
and thus can be fined under some obscure law their attorneys
can dig up.

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Edison Electric recently installed a smart meter on my house, without my permission or knowledge. When I read about the dangers and invasion of privacy caused by these smart meters and discovered that I now had one, I was pissed. Too late to do anything about it? WRONG!!!

You see, the antenna for these meters is located inside the glass (or plastic) bulb. All I had to do was to cover the entire glass bulb with aluminum foil, making sure that the foil was grounded to the metal housing behind the bulb. This shields against any RF or Microwave transmissions, which both protects you from the radiation and also defeats the entire purpose of the smart meter, since they can't read it remotely.

Then I sat back and waited for them to realize that they weren't getting any readings from my house. I checked the foil periodically to see if it was still there. Today it happened. They had to send some one out to rip the foil off of my meter to get a manual reading! I found the foil ripped off and laying on the ground. Naturally, I just re-applied the foil and now look forward to them having to send somebody out each and every month to remove the foil if they want to get a reading. If everyone would do this, it would defeat the entire smart meter program! They would have to re-think all of the money that they are spending to install these dangerous and privacy invading devices simply because people can render them dumb with 10 cents worth of aluminum foil!

I say everybody should rise up and "FOIL" this disgusting smart meter program!

Hey, its my house, I can apply foil where ever I want!

resist
 Quoting: Sky Pilot



welcome to the tin foil hat club

btw

you'll be fined for tampering

well done
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This maybe more true than you know. I had a meter break and the electric company told me I owned the meter and was responsible for replacing it.

So I say foil where you want to foil.

They installed a smart meter on my house when I lived in Columbus. My bill went sky high. I am now in rural WV with no smart meter, no tons of extra insulation and my electric bill has gone down by 2/3s.

If WV ever gets up to date with the rest of the world I will remeber this post. Thank you. It's not about the spying, it's about making them come out every month to actually read the meter. The claim was by doing this we can diagnose things easier and read the meter from the office so you will have lower electric bills. Our electric bills compliments of PUCO have gone up 20 % this year so I say screw them.
It's hard to make anything fool proof as fools are so ingenious.
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Come on people. We can do this! One small step for freedom and liberty! Please foil your meter!
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I like it.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1522055


I agree, I like it,too! Don't currently have a smart meter but have been thinking there must be ways and probably simply ones to disrupt the transmission - glad foil works.

You seem to be correct about the transmission to the utility being affected since they have come for manual reads but are you certain their is no residual frequencies coming into your home?
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Fucking Awesome OP!!!!
Here is a list of 8 things to look for when trying to identify false flag psychological operations.
1. Staged events usually receive immediate national news coverage
2. There is a political agenda behind the coverage (gun control)
3. The incident inspires intense emotions (Dead kids)
4. Initial media reports conflict eyewitness accounts
5. No dead bodies are shown to the public
6. Celebrities are used to influence the public
7. Presence of mainstream media manipulation tactics
8. The Federal Government give attention to a local story

Question Everything.

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Foil to the rescue again!!! good stuff!!! chuckle
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A wonder material for sure.
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Come on people. We can do this! One small step for freedom and liberty! Please foil your meter!
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"FOIL YOUR METER" "FOIL YOUR METER" "FOIL YOUR METER" "FOIL YOUR METER" "FOIL YOUR METER" "FOIL YOUR METER" "FOIL YOUR METER" "FOIL YOUR METER" "FOIL YOUR METER" "FOIL YOUR METER"5a5a5a5a5abumpbumpbumpbumpbump
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Who's electricity is it being used to send these signals? The home owner or the power companies?
 Quoting: JUSTSURVIVEBABY


the smart meters use power before it's metered so it's the utility's power, not the consumer's.

as for what the OP suggests, it might or might not work. despite the fact that you didn't consent to getting the new meter, that meter still belongs to the utility and they could cause a consumer some serious headaches for messing around with their property. a consumer may win a court case but is it really worth the hassle? there are sneakier ways to do it since smart meters require a network and comm protocols to work. think about it.
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Hmmmmmmmmmm not ONE mention of Orgone helping on this thread ...
Just a thought to help until issue solved =)

[link to www.natures-energies.com]

Smart Meters are being installed in electrical meter boxes and water meters domestically worldwide. This has caused considerable concern to many people as the meters generate microwave energy to transmit readings. The Geoclense and Area Neutralizer Dome has been tested with the Smart Meters and both do harmonize the microwave radiation created by Smart Meters


[link to www.natures-energies.com]

[link to harrisorgone.com]

SUGGESTIONS FOR PERSONAL AND DOMESTIC USE OF ORGONITE

1. Many of our friends with insomnia report improvement in their sleep after tucking a TB(tower buster) or an HHg(holy hand grenade) under their bed. Some people put a TB under each corner.

2. Place a TB on every electrical device in the home: we’d begin with electrical panels, computers, monitors, televisions, and refrigerators. A simple Gauss metre helps to identify sources of EMF. If you use Wi-Fi, place a TB on it (and please unplug it when not in use). We hope you don’t have a microwave oven.

3. Lay a TB in each corner of the home and/or property for protection against negative energy and EMF.

4. If you have a Smart Meter, set a TB on top of it. If your neighbours’ Smart Meters face your house, put TBs on those.

5. Fasten a TB to the pipes where water enters your house to energise your water supply. Orgonite on your water main sends healing energy, via the water itself, out to your neighbourhood.

6. Dig TBs into your garden or even your houseplants. If you grow sprouts, place them next to a TB. Plants thrive with orgonite. Sharon finds that the general rule of thumb, a TB every 15 feet, works wonders. The big maple in her front yard has its own HHg. Farmers all over the world are experimenting with it too.

7. In your car, place orgonite near your stereo (usually the vehicle’s biggest creator of EMF) or in the glove compartment. We have TBs under the seats and in the trunk.

8. Wear an orgonite pendant. Sharon only removes her Harmonic Protector (created by Carol Croft) to shower; Mike is more flexible : ) We are experimenting with mixtures of crystals and will offer a pendant for sale when we get it right.

9. Carry a small piece of orgonite in your pocket or a TB in your bag.

10. Attach a small piece of orgonite to your cell phone.

11. If you use an electronic keypad, don’t carry it into your pocket without an orgonite key ring or a small piece of orgonite.
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Edison Electric recently installed a smart meter on my house, without my permission or knowledge. When I read about the dangers and invasion of privacy caused by these smart meters and discovered that I now had one, I was pissed. Too late to do anything about it? WRONG!!!

You see, the antenna for these meters is located inside the glass (or plastic) bulb. All I had to do was to cover the entire glass bulb with aluminum foil, making sure that the foil was grounded to the metal housing behind the bulb. This shields against any RF or Microwave transmissions, which both protects you from the radiation and also defeats the entire purpose of the smart meter, since they can't read it remotely.

Then I sat back and waited for them to realize that they weren't getting any readings from my house. I checked the foil periodically to see if it was still there. Today it happened. They had to send some one out to rip the foil off of my meter to get a manual reading! I found the foil ripped off and laying on the ground. Naturally, I just re-applied the foil and now look forward to them having to send somebody out each and every month to remove the foil if they want to get a reading. If everyone would do this, it would defeat the entire smart meter program! They would have to re-think all of the money that they are spending to install these dangerous and privacy invading devices simply because people can render them dumb with 10 cents worth of aluminum foil!

I say everybody should rise up and "FOIL" this disgusting smart meter program!

Hey, its my house, I can apply foil where ever I want!

resist
 Quoting: Sky Pilot


I'm totally going to try this.
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interesting

that would work on the wireless ones

but the kind the use around my place actually transmit down the power wires
 Quoting: ^TrInItY^


Here as well

I wasn't aware that electric meters had RF transmitters anywhere as it doesn't make a lot of logical sense.
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neodymium magnets are good- for lots of stuff!
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True. But how is this relevant to anything?
 Quoting: Sky Pilot


very relevant, it slows or stops meters with rotating stuff in it.(400kg+ magnet please)

i´ve not seen a meter in germany that could not be slowed by a neodymium 400kg+.
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I a a couple of Neo.1200's, but they are only the size of a Dime. Would that work; and where would I put them?
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neodymium magnets are good- for lots of stuff!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1418913


True. But how is this relevant to anything?
 Quoting: Sky Pilot


very relevant, it slows or stops meters with rotating stuff in it.(400kg+ magnet please)

i´ve not seen a meter in germany that could not be slowed by a neodymium 400kg+.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1529050


I a a couple of Neo.1200's, but they are only the size of a Dime. Would that work; and where would I put them?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1493860


The meter's you guys are talking about are analog ones the smart meter's are all digital so a magnet would do no good.

The elephant in the room is the time of use charges,here in Ontario they have it in a lot of homes now,and the power Co.has ended up with a surplus of power in the daytime (highest priced tier), now they tried to sell that power to Quebec and to NY but both said they did not need it,but would take it if Ontario payed THEM to get rid of it. So far this year it has cost Ontario 28 million bucks to get rid of this excess power!!

Now do you see what's really going on here?
Smart meter's are good when the economy is good and everyone is working,but the fact is that most industry in Ontario has left the Provence in search of better rates.
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bump
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It was 35 million they had to pay.

OTTAWA — Ontario’s electricity generators have shelled out $35 million this year to get neighbouring jurisdictions to take surplus power off their hands and are helping to drive up the cost of power to consumers in the process.

According to the province’s Independent Electrical System Operator (IESO), electricity prices were negative — meaning sellers had to pay buyers in the U.S. or Quebec to take surplus electricity — a total of 95 hours in the first six months of this year.

That’s up sharply from the same period in 2010, when there were only 10 hours of negative prices at a cost of $4.2 million. However, it’s down from 2009, when there were 280 hours of negative prices in the first six months, and 351 for the year as a whole.

[link to savethenorwesters.com]

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I bought my house new in 06, with smart meter installed.

Here is what the power company claims:

[link to www.aps.com]
 Quoting: TTX8K82


Anyway you can copy and paste details available to you so we can see just what info is obtainable by the customer? (feel free to remove data for your privacy just add it in that you edited)
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This is my usage for the last week, note the day time temps have been in excess of 110, with Saturdays high at 117, so I have the air running a lot - I keep the temps at 80 in the day time, 77 after 5. my bill averages 162/month, it has dropped from 210 when I went on the off peak usage plan. I also have a pool that has 2 pumps running for 6 hours at night, so my usage is higher.

I have been considering solar panels. I can have them installed for $7,500 dollars, one time fee, 20 year guarantee, they estimate my bill would drop to under $10 a month. Claim I would break even in 4-1/2 years.

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Re: !!! REVENGE AGAINST THE SMART METERS!!! HOW TO MAKE THEM DUMB!!!
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Re: !!! REVENGE AGAINST THE SMART METERS!!! HOW TO MAKE THEM DUMB!!!
A better thread title would have been... "Please Excuse The Pun... How To FOIL The Smart Meters!"

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