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I like how they say they understand the "law of gravity", when they can not explain how it works.

Classic.

It's like a priest telling me that god wants me to be nice to my neighbors.

Neither question can say, "why" that is, because they invoke irrationality on both. Saying there is or isn't a god is irrational. Sorry atheists, your logic is flawed too.

Also, saying there is a "law of gravity" is also irrational, because how can we suppose what pulls down is a "force", and not caused by a secondary effect of known phenomena such as electromagnetism?

I have said it before I'll say it again, the root of the problem is people analyze data too much. We don't do enough synthesizing, a.k.a. combining. The root of all our largest physics issues is how we center our minds. If they are centered around gravity being "separate" from EM then they will always invoke ideas that don't make any sense! Dark matter, dark energy, higgs boson, etc!!

The entirety of this races physics is rooted in the idea that "matter" has "mass". When those two terms can not be clearly defined and understood, there will always be "constants" and numbers that get "invoked" by math gurus! A more advanced form is to combine the periodic table of the elements into more COHERENT patterns that are rooted in simple electric and magnetic interactions. The entire "atom" centric model is as deeply flawed as putting the earth in the center of the universe!!


The entirety of the "particle physics" is wrong! There are NO PARTICLES! It's all just electromagnetic interactions!!! The "atom" centric model needs to be flushed down the toilet!rant
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good, very goooood. the force is strong in this one.
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I like how they say they understand the "law of gravity", when they can not explain how it works.

Classic.

It's like a priest telling me that god wants me to be nice to my neighbors.

Neither question can say, "why" that is, because they invoke irrationality on both. Saying there is or isn't a god is irrational. Sorry atheists, your logic is flawed too.

Also, saying there is a "law of gravity" is also irrational, because how can we suppose what pulls down is a "force", and not caused by a secondary effect of known phenomena such as electromagnetism?

I have said it before I'll say it again, the root of the problem is people analyze data too much. We don't do enough synthesizing, a.k.a. combining. The root of all our largest physics issues is how we center our minds. If they are centered around gravity being "separate" from EM then they will always invoke ideas that don't make any sense! Dark matter, dark energy, higgs boson, etc!!

The entirety of this races physics is rooted in the idea that "matter" has "mass". When those two terms can not be clearly defined and understood, there will always be "constants" and numbers that get "invoked" by math gurus! A more advanced form is to combine the periodic table of the elements into more COHERENT patterns that are rooted in simple electric and magnetic interactions. The entire "atom" centric model is as deeply flawed as putting the earth in the center of the universe!!


The entirety of the "particle physics" is wrong! There are NO PARTICLES! It's all just electromagnetic interactions!!! The "atom" centric model needs to be flushed down the toilet!rant
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an ongoing un-complete-able bootstrapping process

always looking for the perfect monkey wrench

to re-establish the system into its next imperfect form
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An excelent rant and ... true.
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when did they call it a law? as far as I know, it's still called a theory.
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You're not the first person to think of this
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I agree; describing some behaviour is not the same as explaining it.
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when did they call it a law? as far as I know, it's still called a theory.
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My personal favorite is the inability to explain where inertia comes from, because I want to dampen or eliminate it. I want to pull 20+ G's and not turn to putty.

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How do you know for a certain "the earth revolves around the sun" and not the other way around. ?

How do you know if we ever went to the moon or even sent probes to other plannets.

Why do you believe the law of attraction for gravity....because Newton came up with it ? Someone described it's equation G*M*m/r^2

How do we know that what goes on down on earth isn't effected by different laws than in outer space ?

How do we know those "stars" and galaxies that the hubble "sees" aren't some illusion created by CGI ?

Ever take a telescope and look up....I see more stars but never any more detail.

I'm just questioning everything now......liars and fakers always have some motivition for why they lie and fake
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How do you know for a certain "the earth revolves around the sun" and not the other way around. ?

How do you know if we ever went to the moon or even sent probes to other plannets.

Why do you believe the law of attraction for gravity....because Newton came up with it ? Someone described it's equation G*M*m/r^2

How do we know that what goes on down on earth isn't effected by different laws than in outer space ?

How do we know those "stars" and galaxies that the hubble "sees" aren't some illusion created by CGI ?

Ever take a telescope and look up....I see more stars but never any more detail.

I'm just questioning everything now......liars and fakers always have some motivition for why they lie and fake
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putin

FFS, not this again.
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Interesting, anything to share so I can read more?

"Gravitational Fields Do Not Exist.

Gravity does NOT have a field.

Gravity is the Expansion Acceleration of all Mass. This in turn produces a Magnetic Field, however not a Gravitational Field.


EinsteinGravitydotcom"

If you don't think it's right, then look to your left...

I'm starting to think it's all light and the one platonic solid that is overlooked is the key.

And isn't it "Theory of Gravity" and not Law?

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How do you know for a certain "the earth revolves around the sun" and not the other way around. ?

How do you know if we ever went to the moon or even sent probes to other plannets.

Why do you believe the law of attraction for gravity....because Newton came up with it ? Someone described it's equation G*M*m/r^2

How do we know that what goes on down on earth isn't effected by different laws than in outer space ?

How do we know those "stars" and galaxies that the hubble "sees" aren't some illusion created by CGI ?

Ever take a telescope and look up....I see more stars but never any more detail.

I'm just questioning everything now......liars and fakers always have some motivition for why they lie and fake
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putin

FFS, not this again.
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Chad, the Vedas are Geocentric, not Heliocentric. They also subscribe to a Geocentric Theory.

The Law of Gravity is challenged in the Vedas. The Sun is not the main gravitational body. Everything is moving in a prescribed orbit.

It is not wrong to challenge the new modern Heliocentric theory.

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"A sense of common interest can be fostered among individuals, if they know that they are inter-connected, are parts of one Organic System and are the sons and daughters of one Father. Here is the task of all religions; to teach people that all beings of the world are closely inter-related. Although steadfastness or firm belief in God (Nistha) according to some particular faith and eligibility of the individual is congenial for healthy spiritual growth of every individual, religious bigotry which begets enmity is condemnable, as it is against the real interest of the individual and society. Real religion teaches love for one another. Lord Sri Krishna Chaitanya Mahaprabhu propagated the cult of all-embracing Divine Love which brings universal brotherhood on a transcendental plane.

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..and now i know why things aren't as pretty from the inside..
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How do you know for a certain "the earth revolves around the sun" and not the other way around. ?

How do you know if we ever went to the moon or even sent probes to other plannets.

Why do you believe the law of attraction for gravity....because Newton came up with it ? Someone described it's equation G*M*m/r^2

How do we know that what goes on down on earth isn't effected by different laws than in outer space ?

How do we know those "stars" and galaxies that the hubble "sees" aren't some illusion created by CGI ?

Ever take a telescope and look up....I see more stars but never any more detail.

I'm just questioning everything now......liars and fakers always have some motivition for why they lie and fake
 Quoting: Dr_Kynes 1532301


putin

FFS, not this again.
 Quoting: SickScent


Chad, the Vedas are Geocentric, not Heliocentric. They also subscribe to a Geocentric Theory.

The Law of Gravity is challenged in the Vedas. The Sun is not the main gravitational body. Everything is moving in a prescribed orbit.

It is not wrong to challenge the new modern Heliocentric theory.
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You are completely correct. I have shot out the mouth without thinking. When I read the above, I went immediately to a preconceived notion: Flat Earthers. My bad.
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My personal favorite is the inability to explain where inertia comes from, because I want to dampen or eliminate it. I want to pull 20+ G's and not turn to putty.

yeahsure
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Dampening it is easy just spay it with liquid?
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You are completely correct. I have shot out the mouth without thinking. When I read the above, I went immediately to a preconceived notion: Flat Earthers. My bad.
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WHAT??????????????????? IT ISN`T FLAT??

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And believing in black holes is the equivalent to dividing by zero.
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I like how they say they understand the "law of gravity", when they can not explain how it works.

Classic.

It's like a priest telling me that god wants me to be nice to my neighbors.

Neither question can say, "why" that is, because they invoke irrationality on both. Saying there is or isn't a god is irrational. Sorry atheists, your logic is flawed too.

Also, saying there is a "law of gravity" is also irrational, because how can we suppose what pulls down is a "force", and not caused by a secondary effect of known phenomena such as electromagnetism?

I have said it before I'll say it again, the root of the problem is people analyze data too much. We don't do enough synthesizing, a.k.a. combining. The root of all our largest physics issues is how we center our minds. If they are centered around gravity being "separate" from EM then they will always invoke ideas that don't make any sense! Dark matter, dark energy, higgs boson, etc!!

The entirety of this races physics is rooted in the idea that "matter" has "mass". When those two terms can not be clearly defined and understood, there will always be "constants" and numbers that get "invoked" by math gurus! A more advanced form is to combine the periodic table of the elements into more COHERENT patterns that are rooted in simple electric and magnetic interactions. The entire "atom" centric model is as deeply flawed as putting the earth in the center of the universe!!


The entirety of the "particle physics" is wrong! There are NO PARTICLES! It's all just electromagnetic interactions!!! The "atom" centric model needs to be flushed down the toilet!rant
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What ?? They don't exist ? I was so looking forward to them being discovered in the near future.

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THE FORCE
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Some scientists are finally giving up on looking for the Higgs Boson 'Particle', ie The God Particle.

They are starting to realize that there shit is all fucked up.
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How do you know for a certain "the earth revolves around the sun" and not the other way around. ?

How do you know if we ever went to the moon or even sent probes to other plannets.

Why do you believe the law of attraction for gravity....because Newton came up with it ? Someone described it's equation G*M*m/r^2

How do we know that what goes on down on earth isn't effected by different laws than in outer space ?

How do we know those "stars" and galaxies that the hubble "sees" aren't some illusion created by CGI ?

Ever take a telescope and look up....I see more stars but never any more detail.

I'm just questioning everything now......liars and fakers always have some motivition for why they lie and fake
 Quoting: Dr_Kynes 1532301


putin

FFS, not this again.
 Quoting: SickScent


Chad, the Vedas are Geocentric, not Heliocentric. They also subscribe to a Geocentric Theory.

The Law of Gravity is challenged in the Vedas. The Sun is not the main gravitational body. Everything is moving in a prescribed orbit.

It is not wrong to challenge the new modern Heliocentric theory.
 Quoting: SaveTheLivingEntities


You are completely correct. I have shot out the mouth without thinking. When I read the above, I went immediately to a preconceived notion: Flat Earthers. My bad.
 Quoting: SickScent


It's fine! We all are affected by the conditional modes of thinking and it's very easy to entangle oneself!

Some scientists are finally giving up on looking for the Higgs Boson 'Particle', ie The God Particle.

They are starting to realize that there shit is all fucked up.
 Quoting: SickScent


If they want to find a particle of God they won't be able to do it with scientific instruments.

Living Force is a particle of God, but we will not be able to pin point God with a microscope or experiment.

Why not? Because Spirit is subtler than all Material. You cannot look at the most subtle substance in the universe with a microscope made up of the grossest substance in the universe.

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(Srila Bhakti Dayita Madhava Maharaja )


"If one loves Krishna, he must love Lord Jesus also. And if one perfectly loves Jesus he must love Krishna too. If he says, "Why shall I love Krishna? I shall love Jesus," then he has no knowledge. And if one says, "Why shall I love Jesus? I shall love Krishna", then he has no knowledge either. If one understands Krishna, then he will understand Jesus. If one understands Jesus, you'll understand Krishna too"

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What I find funny is how we have "laws" about how everything works here on earth. That's the key....on earth. We only know what we have observed using the elements discovered and created here on earth and based on the living conditions of that same earth. How in the world can we make assumptions about something that is in another part of the galaxy or on another planet when the only perspective we have to base on is our observable planet earth. Hell, we are still in the dark about a lot of things even here.
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I like how they say they understand the "law of gravity", when they can not explain how it works.

Classic.

It's like a priest telling me that god wants me to be nice to my neighbors.

Neither question can say, "why" that is, because they invoke irrationality on both. Saying there is or isn't a god is irrational. Sorry atheists, your logic is flawed too.

Also, saying there is a "law of gravity" is also irrational, because how can we suppose what pulls down is a "force", and not caused by a secondary effect of known phenomena such as electromagnetism?

I have said it before I'll say it again, the root of the problem is people analyze data too much. We don't do enough synthesizing, a.k.a. combining. The root of all our largest physics issues is how we center our minds. If they are centered around gravity being "separate" from EM then they will always invoke ideas that don't make any sense! Dark matter, dark energy, higgs boson, etc!!

The entirety of this races physics is rooted in the idea that "matter" has "mass". When those two terms can not be clearly defined and understood, there will always be "constants" and numbers that get "invoked" by math gurus! A more advanced form is to combine the periodic table of the elements into more COHERENT patterns that are rooted in simple electric and magnetic interactions. The entire "atom" centric model is as deeply flawed as putting the earth in the center of the universe!!


The entirety of the "particle physics" is wrong! There are NO PARTICLES! It's all just electromagnetic interactions!!! The "atom" centric model needs to be flushed down the toilet!rant
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well said, op

Please realize that maintaining this odious abomination is a mechanism of control over all of us
Obfuscation of truth by funding dead end 'research' has been going on for loooong time

Large part of it can be narrowed down to Gibs/Heaviside's 'simplification' [bastardization] of Maxwell's equations and resultant loss of scalar variables and most of all POLARITY
gross rejection by 'scientific community' of the proper notation of Maxwell's work ie: quoternionic notation is a key problem.

True Understanding of gravity, [electromagnetics] would mean understanding profoundly important mechanisms which underly the very fabric of this physical reality and would open the flood gates to empowerment and true scientific enlightenment of the human race

This can not be allowed to happen from the point of view of those tasked with preserving this knowledge [without understanding it's significance] from the beginning of known history as they know they would simply become powerless at an instant.

Significant portions of the truth have been encoded in the kaballah and given a spin of dangerous occultic believes precisely to preserve it and to steer the masses away from it.
Some who proved themselves capable have been allowed access to it like Albert Einstein who cleverly plagiarized the slivers of decoded information and introduced it to the world as his own work, Robert Oppenheimer and a handful of others were also allowed in for a specific purpose

Some have gotten close to understanding but have run out of time

Hope runs thin in respect to this subject and it is only your perseverance and ability to reject the confusion of the mainstream detractors despite of their abundant funding
One must also guard against falling for various 'new age' feel good traps set in many places

Nature's mechanisms are abundantly simple and beautiful
a lot can be learned by simple observation

observe


and remember

SPIN vs COUNTER-SPIN
opposite polarities

simple


sun

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Electromagnetism and gravity have been linked for decades. We also, for decades, have known that everything is a standing wave form inside of the EM Field. In conclusion we are all slowed down particles of light, which arent particles at all, but waves of possibility.
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Electromagnetism and gravity have been linked for decades. We also, for decades, have known that everything is a standing wave form inside of the EM Field. In conclusion we are all slowed down particles of light, which arent particles at all, but waves of possibility.
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I love September when school starts, suddenly we have geniuses amongst us. Just kidding Op, point taken.
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The real problem is in Mathematics.

The square root of 2. Try to find it. You will need an awful lot of decimal places on your calculator.
Pi is not accurate.
Infinity is expressed but not quantified.
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The real problem is in Mathematics.

The square root of 2. Try to find it. You will need an awful lot of decimal places on your calculator.
Pi is not accurate.
Infinity is expressed but not quantified.
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Square of 2? so?

Pi has been rehashed and actually solved by Marko Rodin. Unfortunately his work is getting very small amounts of attention ):

Infinity can not be quantified.
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The real problem is in Mathematics.

The square root of 2. Try to find it. You will need an awful lot of decimal places on your calculator.
Pi is not accurate.
Infinity is expressed but not quantified.
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Square of 2? so?

Pi has been rehashed and actually solved by Marko Rodin. Unfortunately his work is getting very small amounts of attention ):

Infinity can not be quantified.
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If infinity can't be quantified, neither can the square root of 2. It is quite a big deal that it can't be solved.

I know nothing of Marko Rodin's work. The world still looks for an accuracy - mathematic perfection - to prove anything about the nature of our Universe.