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Ron Paul Supports Chinese Slave Labor Camps As Per His Voting Record

 
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On more than one occasion, Ron Paul resisted attempts to end Most Favored Nation (MFN) status to China. The entire concept of MFN status is anathema to liberty due to its treaty implications with regard to the heinous World Trade Organization. As the article below argues, MFN empowers the executive branch and also the World Trade Organization to clamp down on nationwide, state, and local efforts to curtail such things as human slavery for financial gain and the cessation of sensitive arm sales to nations that actively use them against us (as China has done on a frightening scale).
See
[link to www.speakeasy.org]

He voted against HCR 294 in 2005, “calling on the international community to condemn the Laogai, the system of forced labor prison camps in the People’s Republic of China, as a tool for suppression maintained by the Chinese Government”.

See
[link to www.govtrack.us]
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someone 1 starred the undeniable without even a post.

Easy to 1 star when a small part of Ron Paul is exposed
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On more than one occasion, Ron Paul resisted attempts to end Most Favored Nation (MFN) status to China. The entire concept of MFN status is anathema to liberty due to its treaty implications with regard to the heinous World Trade Organization. As the article below argues, MFN empowers the executive branch and also the World Trade Organization to clamp down on nationwide, state, and local efforts to curtail such things as human slavery for financial gain and the cessation of sensitive arm sales to nations that actively use them against us (as China has done on a frightening scale).
See
[link to www.speakeasy.org]

He voted against HCR 294 in 2005, “calling on the international community to condemn the Laogai, the system of forced labor prison camps in the People’s Republic of China, as a tool for suppression maintained by the Chinese Government”.

See
[link to www.govtrack.us]
 Quoting: Mad Pole


Our first President, General George Washington said, "The great rule of conduct for us in regard to foreign nations is in extending our commercial relations, to have with them as little political connection as possible. Why quit our own to stand on foreign ground? Why... entangle our peace and prosperity in the toils of [foreign] ambition, rivalship, interest, humor or caprice?"

Thomas Jefferson who warned against "entangling alliances" with other nations and with the meddling in the affairs of foreign powers.
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On more than one occasion, Ron Paul resisted attempts to end Most Favored Nation (MFN) status to China. The entire concept of MFN status is anathema to liberty due to its treaty implications with regard to the heinous World Trade Organization. As the article below argues, MFN empowers the executive branch and also the World Trade Organization to clamp down on nationwide, state, and local efforts to curtail such things as human slavery for financial gain and the cessation of sensitive arm sales to nations that actively use them against us (as China has done on a frightening scale).
See
[link to www.speakeasy.org]

He voted against HCR 294 in 2005, “calling on the international community to condemn the Laogai, the system of forced labor prison camps in the People’s Republic of China, as a tool for suppression maintained by the Chinese Government”.

See
[link to www.govtrack.us]
 Quoting: Mad Pole


Our first President, General George Washington said, "The great rule of conduct for us in regard to foreign nations is in extending our commercial relations, to have with them as little political connection as possible. Why quit our own to stand on foreign ground? Why... entangle our peace and prosperity in the toils of [foreign] ambition, rivalship, interest, humor or caprice?"

Thomas Jefferson who warned against "entangling alliances" with other nations and with the meddling in the affairs of foreign powers.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 744051


the problem is, our foreign policy has forever changed from Isolationist to Globalist. Ron Paul isnt trying to change that, but embracing that for TPTB.
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On more than one occasion, Ron Paul resisted attempts to end Most Favored Nation (MFN) status to China. The entire concept of MFN status is anathema to liberty due to its treaty implications with regard to the heinous World Trade Organization. As the article below argues, MFN empowers the executive branch and also the World Trade Organization to clamp down on nationwide, state, and local efforts to curtail such things as human slavery for financial gain and the cessation of sensitive arm sales to nations that actively use them against us (as China has done on a frightening scale).
See
[link to www.speakeasy.org]

He voted against HCR 294 in 2005, “calling on the international community to condemn the Laogai, the system of forced labor prison camps in the People’s Republic of China, as a tool for suppression maintained by the Chinese Government”.

See
[link to www.govtrack.us]
 Quoting: Mad Pole


Dumfukin libbies. MFN means the country which is the recipient of this treatment must, nominally, receive equal trade advantages as the "most favored nation" by the country granting such treatment. (Trade advantages include low tariffs or high import quotas.) In effect, a country that has been accorded MFN status may not be treated less advantageously than any other country with MFN status by the promising country.
Having free trade with China is a death sentance to American workers wages. Even if the labor force is filled with dumbed down fucks like your self, it's a bad idea.
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On more than one occasion, Ron Paul resisted attempts to end Most Favored Nation (MFN) status to China. The entire concept of MFN status is anathema to liberty due to its treaty implications with regard to the heinous World Trade Organization. As the article below argues, MFN empowers the executive branch and also the World Trade Organization to clamp down on nationwide, state, and local efforts to curtail such things as human slavery for financial gain and the cessation of sensitive arm sales to nations that actively use them against us (as China has done on a frightening scale).
See
[link to www.speakeasy.org]

He voted against HCR 294 in 2005, “calling on the international community to condemn the Laogai, the system of forced labor prison camps in the People’s Republic of China, as a tool for suppression maintained by the Chinese Government”.

See
[link to www.govtrack.us]
 Quoting: Mad Pole


Our first President, General George Washington said, "The great rule of conduct for us in regard to foreign nations is in extending our commercial relations, to have with them as little political connection as possible. Why quit our own to stand on foreign ground? Why... entangle our peace and prosperity in the toils of [foreign] ambition, rivalship, interest, humor or caprice?"

Thomas Jefferson who warned against "entangling alliances" with other nations and with the meddling in the affairs of foreign powers.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 744051


the problem is, our foreign policy has forever changed from Isolationist to Globalist. Ron Paul isnt trying to change that, but embracing that for TPTB.
 Quoting: Mad Pole


Ron Paul is in direct opposition to globalism.

Staying out of everyone else's business is not Isolationism, it good sense.

Free trade with all, entangling alliances with none.

We need to focus on American interests and loose the idiots that think we should focus on Israeli interests.
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On more than one occasion, Ron Paul resisted attempts to end Most Favored Nation (MFN) status to China. The entire concept of MFN status is anathema to liberty due to its treaty implications with regard to the heinous World Trade Organization. As the article below argues, MFN empowers the executive branch and also the World Trade Organization to clamp down on nationwide, state, and local efforts to curtail such things as human slavery for financial gain and the cessation of sensitive arm sales to nations that actively use them against us (as China has done on a frightening scale).
See
[link to www.speakeasy.org]

He voted against HCR 294 in 2005, “calling on the international community to condemn the Laogai, the system of forced labor prison camps in the People’s Republic of China, as a tool for suppression maintained by the Chinese Government”.

See
[link to www.govtrack.us]
 Quoting: Mad Pole


Dumfukin libbies. MFN means the country which is the recipient of this treatment must, nominally, receive equal trade advantages as the "most favored nation" by the country granting such treatment. (Trade advantages include low tariffs or high import quotas.) In effect, a country that has been accorded MFN status may not be treated less advantageously than any other country with MFN status by the promising country.
Having free trade with China is a death sentance to American workers wages. Even if the labor force is filled with dumbed down fucks like your self, it's a bad idea.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1419030


Im as conservative as it basically gets.

Ron Paul is a far left liberal imo. The far lefters are nazi and it shows in Ron Paul
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On more than one occasion, Ron Paul resisted attempts to end Most Favored Nation (MFN) status to China. The entire concept of MFN status is anathema to liberty due to its treaty implications with regard to the heinous World Trade Organization. As the article below argues, MFN empowers the executive branch and also the World Trade Organization to clamp down on nationwide, state, and local efforts to curtail such things as human slavery for financial gain and the cessation of sensitive arm sales to nations that actively use them against us (as China has done on a frightening scale).
See
[link to www.speakeasy.org]

He voted against HCR 294 in 2005, “calling on the international community to condemn the Laogai, the system of forced labor prison camps in the People’s Republic of China, as a tool for suppression maintained by the Chinese Government”.

See
[link to www.govtrack.us]
 Quoting: Mad Pole


Our first President, General George Washington said, "The great rule of conduct for us in regard to foreign nations is in extending our commercial relations, to have with them as little political connection as possible. Why quit our own to stand on foreign ground? Why... entangle our peace and prosperity in the toils of [foreign] ambition, rivalship, interest, humor or caprice?"

Thomas Jefferson who warned against "entangling alliances" with other nations and with the meddling in the affairs of foreign powers.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 744051


the problem is, our foreign policy has forever changed from Isolationist to Globalist. Ron Paul isnt trying to change that, but embracing that for TPTB.
 Quoting: Mad Pole


Ron Paul is in direct opposition to globalism.

Staying out of everyone else's business is not Isolationism, it good sense.

Free trade with all, entangling alliances with none.

We need to focus on American interests and loose the idiots that think we should focus on Israeli interests.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 744051


Free trade is Globalism dumbnut.

85% of Obama's foreign aid proposals was for muslim countries. Thank God, no one actually listens to him.
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On more than one occasion, Ron Paul resisted attempts to end Most Favored Nation (MFN) status to China. The entire concept of MFN status is anathema to liberty due to its treaty implications with regard to the heinous World Trade Organization. As the article below argues, MFN empowers the executive branch and also the World Trade Organization to clamp down on nationwide, state, and local efforts to curtail such things as human slavery for financial gain and the cessation of sensitive arm sales to nations that actively use them against us (as China has done on a frightening scale).
See
[link to www.speakeasy.org]

He voted against HCR 294 in 2005, “calling on the international community to condemn the Laogai, the system of forced labor prison camps in the People’s Republic of China, as a tool for suppression maintained by the Chinese Government”.

See
[link to www.govtrack.us]
 Quoting: Mad Pole


Dumfukin libbies. MFN means the country which is the recipient of this treatment must, nominally, receive equal trade advantages as the "most favored nation" by the country granting such treatment. (Trade advantages include low tariffs or high import quotas.) In effect, a country that has been accorded MFN status may not be treated less advantageously than any other country with MFN status by the promising country.
Having free trade with China is a death sentance to American workers wages. Even if the labor force is filled with dumbed down fucks like your self, it's a bad idea.
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Im as conservative as it basically gets.

Ron Paul is a far left liberal imo. The far lefters are nazi and it shows in Ron Paul
 Quoting: Mad Pole


Your opinion is bunk. You are either an "acorn" here on the dole or a fox news neocon.
Funny how RP unites the two entities bent on the destruction of our REPUBLIC.
Your argument has no logic. Calling RP a liberal shows just how fukin stupid you are, or exposes your lying agenda.
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On more than one occasion, Ron Paul resisted attempts to end Most Favored Nation (MFN) status to China. The entire concept of MFN status is anathema to liberty due to its treaty implications with regard to the heinous World Trade Organization. As the article below argues, MFN empowers the executive branch and also the World Trade Organization to clamp down on nationwide, state, and local efforts to curtail such things as human slavery for financial gain and the cessation of sensitive arm sales to nations that actively use them against us (as China has done on a frightening scale).
See
[link to www.speakeasy.org]

He voted against HCR 294 in 2005, “calling on the international community to condemn the Laogai, the system of forced labor prison camps in the People’s Republic of China, as a tool for suppression maintained by the Chinese Government”.

See
[link to www.govtrack.us]
 Quoting: Mad Pole


Dumfukin libbies. MFN means the country which is the recipient of this treatment must, nominally, receive equal trade advantages as the "most favored nation" by the country granting such treatment. (Trade advantages include low tariffs or high import quotas.) In effect, a country that has been accorded MFN status may not be treated less advantageously than any other country with MFN status by the promising country.
Having free trade with China is a death sentance to American workers wages. Even if the labor force is filled with dumbed down fucks like your self, it's a bad idea.
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Im as conservative as it basically gets.

Ron Paul is a far left liberal imo. The far lefters are nazi and it shows in Ron Paul
 Quoting: Mad Pole




You must be a Rush Limpwrist fan, the other shills are calling him a right winger.

He is as conservative as it gets, watch the video and learn.
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On more than one occasion, Ron Paul resisted attempts to end Most Favored Nation (MFN) status to China. The entire concept of MFN status is anathema to liberty due to its treaty implications with regard to the heinous World Trade Organization. As the article below argues, MFN empowers the executive branch and also the World Trade Organization to clamp down on nationwide, state, and local efforts to curtail such things as human slavery for financial gain and the cessation of sensitive arm sales to nations that actively use them against us (as China has done on a frightening scale).
See
[link to www.speakeasy.org]

He voted against HCR 294 in 2005, “calling on the international community to condemn the Laogai, the system of forced labor prison camps in the People’s Republic of China, as a tool for suppression maintained by the Chinese Government”.

See
[link to www.govtrack.us]
 Quoting: Mad Pole


Dumfukin libbies. MFN means the country which is the recipient of this treatment must, nominally, receive equal trade advantages as the "most favored nation" by the country granting such treatment. (Trade advantages include low tariffs or high import quotas.) In effect, a country that has been accorded MFN status may not be treated less advantageously than any other country with MFN status by the promising country.
Having free trade with China is a death sentance to American workers wages. Even if the labor force is filled with dumbed down fucks like your self, it's a bad idea.
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What is the point of your stupid post??
You're opposed to MFN status for China and a fan of Ron Paul?
And you think the OP, who quotes Jesse Helms in his sig, is a "libbie"??

dumbass
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On more than one occasion, Ron Paul resisted attempts to end Most Favored Nation (MFN) status to China. The entire concept of MFN status is anathema to liberty due to its treaty implications with regard to the heinous World Trade Organization. As the article below argues, MFN empowers the executive branch and also the World Trade Organization to clamp down on nationwide, state, and local efforts to curtail such things as human slavery for financial gain and the cessation of sensitive arm sales to nations that actively use them against us (as China has done on a frightening scale).
See
[link to www.speakeasy.org]

He voted against HCR 294 in 2005, “calling on the international community to condemn the Laogai, the system of forced labor prison camps in the People’s Republic of China, as a tool for suppression maintained by the Chinese Government”.

See
[link to www.govtrack.us]
 Quoting: Mad Pole


Dumfukin libbies. MFN means the country which is the recipient of this treatment must, nominally, receive equal trade advantages as the "most favored nation" by the country granting such treatment. (Trade advantages include low tariffs or high import quotas.) In effect, a country that has been accorded MFN status may not be treated less advantageously than any other country with MFN status by the promising country.
Having free trade with China is a death sentance to American workers wages. Even if the labor force is filled with dumbed down fucks like your self, it's a bad idea.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1419030


Im as conservative as it basically gets.

Ron Paul is a far left liberal imo. The far lefters are nazi and it shows in Ron Paul
 Quoting: Mad Pole


Your opinion is bunk. You are either an "acorn" here on the dole or a fox news neocon.
Funny how RP unites the two entities bent on the destruction of our REPUBLIC.
Your argument has no logic. Calling RP a liberal shows just how fukin stupid you are, or exposes your lying agenda.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1419030


Ya, and stop shilling for Ron Paul....shill
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On more than one occasion, Ron Paul resisted attempts to end Most Favored Nation (MFN) status to China. The entire concept of MFN status is anathema to liberty due to its treaty implications with regard to the heinous World Trade Organization. As the article below argues, MFN empowers the executive branch and also the World Trade Organization to clamp down on nationwide, state, and local efforts to curtail such things as human slavery for financial gain and the cessation of sensitive arm sales to nations that actively use them against us (as China has done on a frightening scale).
See
[link to www.speakeasy.org]

He voted against HCR 294 in 2005, “calling on the international community to condemn the Laogai, the system of forced labor prison camps in the People’s Republic of China, as a tool for suppression maintained by the Chinese Government”.

See
[link to www.govtrack.us]
 Quoting: Mad Pole


Dude it is like everyone in your government.

I mean get being all bent about China being a manufacturing powerhouse, but the grim reality is your entire government and most large corporations sold you out long ago in search of more profits and power.

Blame China all you want, but the fact of the matter is that China is now exporting those jobs to the developing nations surrounding it(Indo, Vietnam,Bangladesh, Burma, Thailand, etc etc etc etc)

Those jobs are now going to the next steps down from even China, CHina now owns the companies farming out those jobs, and are now making the profits associated with it.

You guys are suupppppper late to the party.

Seriously.
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Im as conservative as it basically gets.

Ron Paul is a far left liberal imo. The far lefters are nazi and it shows in Ron Paul
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what a fucking idiot.lmao
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Dumfukin libbies. MFN means the country which is the recipient of this treatment must, nominally, receive equal trade advantages as the "most favored nation" by the country granting such treatment. (Trade advantages include low tariffs or high import quotas.) In effect, a country that has been accorded MFN status may not be treated less advantageously than any other country with MFN status by the promising country.
Having free trade with China is a death sentance to American workers wages. Even if the labor force is filled with dumbed down fucks like your self, it's a bad idea.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1419030


Im as conservative as it basically gets.

Ron Paul is a far left liberal imo. The far lefters are nazi and it shows in Ron Paul
 Quoting: Mad Pole


Your opinion is bunk. You are either an "acorn" here on the dole or a fox news neocon.
Funny how RP unites the two entities bent on the destruction of our REPUBLIC.
Your argument has no logic. Calling RP a liberal shows just how fukin stupid you are, or exposes your lying agenda.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1419030


Ya, and stop shilling for Ron Paul....shill
 Quoting: Mad Pole


cruise
I just defend the man from stupidity. Your post is nonsensical drivel. Your accusation has no substance and your pitiful attempt at proving it exposes your ignorance or agenda. RP has the MOST CONSERVITIVE voting record in CONgress. Calling him a liberal and pro child slavery makes you a fuking liar. Period.
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Im as conservative as it basically gets.

Ron Paul is a far left liberal imo. The far lefters are nazi and it shows in Ron Paul
 Quoting: Mad Pole


Your opinion is bunk. You are either an "acorn" here on the dole or a fox news neocon.
Funny how RP unites the two entities bent on the destruction of our REPUBLIC.
Your argument has no logic. Calling RP a liberal shows just how fukin stupid you are, or exposes your lying agenda.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1419030


Ya, and stop shilling for Ron Paul....shill
 Quoting: Mad Pole


cruise
I just defend the man from stupidity. Your post is nonsensical drivel. Your accusation has no substance and your pitiful attempt at proving it exposes your ignorance or agenda. RP has the MOST CONSERVITIVE voting record in CONgress. Calling him a liberal and pro child slavery makes you a fuking liar. Period.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1419030


You can not deny his voting record. Are you saying doesnt make the man? Ron Paul has voted numerous times against bills that speak out about child and slave labor.

Perhaps some facts dont suit you.....And now you are saying im conservative (i am) after you called me a liberal?

I guess its like you saying RP is a conservative, pretty soon you will be saying he is liberal.

make up your mind
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On more than one occasion, Ron Paul resisted attempts to end Most Favored Nation (MFN) status to China. The entire concept of MFN status is anathema to liberty due to its treaty implications with regard to the heinous World Trade Organization. As the article below argues, MFN empowers the executive branch and also the World Trade Organization to clamp down on nationwide, state, and local efforts to curtail such things as human slavery for financial gain and the cessation of sensitive arm sales to nations that actively use them against us (as China has done on a frightening scale).
See
[link to www.speakeasy.org]

He voted against HCR 294 in 2005, “calling on the international community to condemn the Laogai, the system of forced labor prison camps in the People’s Republic of China, as a tool for suppression maintained by the Chinese Government”.

See
[link to www.govtrack.us]
 Quoting: Mad Pole


The problem is ... WHAT EXACTLY was in that bill?

1) Was HCR 294 a stand-alone bill that only mentioned the Laogai and nothing else?
2) Did HCR 294 start out as a bill for something else, and the Laogai was tacked on at the end as an amendment/rider?
3) Did HCR 294 start out as a bill condemning the Laogai, and so many other amendments/riders tacked on - like raising all sorts of taxes - that Ron Paul felt he had to vote "No"?

That's the problem with the current system of bills, amendments and voting. Amendments should not be allowed if they have nothing to do with the underlying bill. But it is simply an attempt to blackmail and criticize members of the other party - or sneak something in on a popular bill's coattails that wouldn't by itself have a snowball's chance in hell of passing on its own accord.

For example, let's start out with a bill that benefits widows and orphans. Now stuff it with all sorts of amendments for pork barrel projects and many tax increases. Vote against the bill and you're labeled as being against widows and orphans. Vote for the bill and you're for pork and taxes.

Think I'm wrong? Then go take a close look at what is stuffed into the annual bill that provides funding for the armed services for the next year.

Unfortunately, the American public is basically stupid. They'll see an ad lambasting a politician for his/her voting record, then reference a bill number. But no mention is made whether that was the main intent of the bill or was one of many hundreds if not thousands of amendments tacked onto it.

Until I'm provided more details on HCR 294, I'm going to withhold judgement on Ron Paul regarding this issue.

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Your opinion is bunk. You are either an "acorn" here on the dole or a fox news neocon.
Funny how RP unites the two entities bent on the destruction of our REPUBLIC.
Your argument has no logic. Calling RP a liberal shows just how fukin stupid you are, or exposes your lying agenda.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1419030


Ya, and stop shilling for Ron Paul....shill
 Quoting: Mad Pole


cruise
I just defend the man from stupidity. Your post is nonsensical drivel. Your accusation has no substance and your pitiful attempt at proving it exposes your ignorance or agenda. RP has the MOST CONSERVITIVE voting record in CONgress. Calling him a liberal and pro child slavery makes you a fuking liar. Period.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1419030


You can not deny his voting record. Are you saying doesnt make the man? Ron Paul has voted numerous times against bills that speak out about child and slave labor.

Perhaps some facts dont suit you.....And now you are saying im conservative (i am) after you called me a liberal?

I guess its like you saying RP is a conservative, pretty soon you will be saying he is liberal.

make up your mind
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GD you are an idiot.

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On more than one occasion, Ron Paul resisted attempts to end Most Favored Nation (MFN) status to China. The entire concept of MFN status is anathema to liberty due to its treaty implications with regard to the heinous World Trade Organization. As the article below argues, MFN empowers the executive branch and also the World Trade Organization to clamp down on nationwide, state, and local efforts to curtail such things as human slavery for financial gain and the cessation of sensitive arm sales to nations that actively use them against us (as China has done on a frightening scale).
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He voted against HCR 294 in 2005, “calling on the international community to condemn the Laogai, the system of forced labor prison camps in the People’s Republic of China, as a tool for suppression maintained by the Chinese Government”.

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Dude it is like everyone in your government.

I mean get being all bent about China being a manufacturing powerhouse, but the grim reality is your entire government and most large corporations sold you out long ago in search of more profits and power.

Blame China all you want, but the fact of the matter is that China is now exporting those jobs to the developing nations surrounding it(Indo, Vietnam,Bangladesh, Burma, Thailand, etc etc etc etc)

Those jobs are now going to the next steps down from even China, CHina now owns the companies farming out those jobs, and are now making the profits associated with it.

You guys are suupppppper late to the party.

Seriously.
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I agree with you, I dont blame China for willingly accepting our jobs after our politicians sold us out. I can blame our gov., including RP, for not only allowing it but embracing that fact as well as condoning foreign labor practices.
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VOTE RON PAUL AND BRING SANITY BACK TO AMERICA!
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Ya, and stop shilling for Ron Paul....shill
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cruise
I just defend the man from stupidity. Your post is nonsensical drivel. Your accusation has no substance and your pitiful attempt at proving it exposes your ignorance or agenda. RP has the MOST CONSERVITIVE voting record in CONgress. Calling him a liberal and pro child slavery makes you a fuking liar. Period.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1419030


You can not deny his voting record. Are you saying doesnt make the man? Ron Paul has voted numerous times against bills that speak out about child and slave labor.

Perhaps some facts dont suit you.....And now you are saying im conservative (i am) after you called me a liberal?

I guess its like you saying RP is a conservative, pretty soon you will be saying he is liberal.

make up your mind
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GD you are an idiot.

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typically it is the pot calling the kettle black. Look at yourself in the mirror next time you say idiot.

Drink more of the coolaid will ya?
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Our first President, General George Washington said, "The great rule of conduct for us in regard to foreign nations is in extending our commercial relations, to have with them as little political connection as possible. Why quit our own to stand on foreign ground? Why... entangle our peace and prosperity in the toils of [foreign] ambition, rivalship, interest, humor or caprice?"

Thomas Jefferson who warned against "entangling alliances" with other nations and with the meddling in the affairs of foreign powers.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 744051


the problem is, our foreign policy has forever changed from Isolationist to Globalist. Ron Paul isnt trying to change that, but embracing that for TPTB.
 Quoting: Mad Pole


Ron Paul is in direct opposition to globalism.

Staying out of everyone else's business is not Isolationism, it good sense.

Free trade with all, entangling alliances with none.

We need to focus on American interests and loose the idiots that think we should focus on Israeli interests.
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Free trade is Globalism dumbnut.

85% of Obama's foreign aid proposals was for muslim countries. Thank God, no one actually listens to him.
 Quoting: Mad Pole


glob·al·ism   /ˈgloʊbəˌlɪzəm/ Show Spelled[gloh-buh-liz-uhm] Show IPA
noun
the attitude or policy of placing the interests of the entire world above those of individual nations.

free trade 
noun
1. trade between countries, free from governmental restrictions or duties.
2. international trade free from protective duties and subject only to such tariffs as are needed for revenue.
3. the system, principles, or maintenance of such trade.
4. Chiefly Scot. smuggling.

[link to dictionary.reference.com]





This is why it is impossible to argue with you anti paul shills, EVERYTHING has to be explained to you.

Use that link BEFORE posting.
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the problem is, our foreign policy has forever changed from Isolationist to Globalist. Ron Paul isnt trying to change that, but embracing that for TPTB.
 Quoting: Mad Pole


Ron Paul is in direct opposition to globalism.

Staying out of everyone else's business is not Isolationism, it good sense.

Free trade with all, entangling alliances with none.

We need to focus on American interests and loose the idiots that think we should focus on Israeli interests.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 744051


Free trade is Globalism dumbnut.

85% of Obama's foreign aid proposals was for muslim countries. Thank God, no one actually listens to him.
 Quoting: Mad Pole


glob·al·ism   /ˈgloʊbəˌlɪzəm/ Show Spelled[gloh-buh-liz-uhm] Show IPA
noun
the attitude or policy of placing the interests of the entire world above those of individual nations.

free trade 
noun
1. trade between countries, free from governmental restrictions or duties.
2. international trade free from protective duties and subject only to such tariffs as are needed for revenue.
3. the system, principles, or maintenance of such trade.
4. Chiefly Scot. smuggling.

[link to dictionary.reference.com]





This is why it is impossible to argue with you anti paul shills, EVERYTHING has to be explained to you.

Use that link BEFORE posting.
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Now lets put it all together so you understand:

Globalization is a process of interaction and integration among the people, companies, and governments of different nations, a process driven by international trade and investment and aided by information technology. This process has effects on the environment, on culture, on political systems, on economic development and prosperity, and on human physical well-being in societies around the world

[link to www.globalization101.org]
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Ron Paul is in direct opposition to globalism.

Staying out of everyone else's business is not Isolationism, it good sense.

Free trade with all, entangling alliances with none.

We need to focus on American interests and loose the idiots that think we should focus on Israeli interests.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 744051


Free trade is Globalism dumbnut.

85% of Obama's foreign aid proposals was for muslim countries. Thank God, no one actually listens to him.
 Quoting: Mad Pole


glob·al·ism   /ˈgloʊbəˌlɪzəm/ Show Spelled[gloh-buh-liz-uhm] Show IPA
noun
the attitude or policy of placing the interests of the entire world above those of individual nations.

free trade 
noun
1. trade between countries, free from governmental restrictions or duties.
2. international trade free from protective duties and subject only to such tariffs as are needed for revenue.
3. the system, principles, or maintenance of such trade.
4. Chiefly Scot. smuggling.

[link to dictionary.reference.com]





This is why it is impossible to argue with you anti paul shills, EVERYTHING has to be explained to you.

Use that link BEFORE posting.
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Now lets put it all together so you understand:

Globalization is a process of interaction and integration among the people, companies, and governments of different nations, a process driven by international trade and investment and aided by information technology. This process has effects on the environment, on culture, on political systems, on economic development and prosperity, and on human physical well-being in societies around the world

[link to www.globalization101.org]
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This current wave of globalization has been driven by policies that have opened economies domestically and internationally. In the years since the Second World War, and especially during the past two decades, many governments have adopted free-market economic systems, vastly increasing their own productive potential and creating myriad new opportunities for international trade and investment. Governments also have negotiated dramatic reductions in barriers to commerce and have established international agreements to promote trade in goods, services, and investment. Taking advantage of new opportunities in foreign markets, corporations have built foreign factories and established production and marketing arrangements with foreign partners. A defining feature of globalization, therefore, is an international industrial and financial business structure.

So how is Ron Paul not a proponent of Globalization by wanting to make things easier to do so?

Explain how Ron Paul is not a Globalist
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Ron Paul always has put the interests of America
and Americans FIRST regarding his approach to
foreign policy - this distinction is why he is
CLEARLY THE MAN BEST SUITED TO BECOME THE NEXT
PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA
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Ron Paul always has put the interests of America
and Americans FIRST regarding his approach to
foreign policy - this distinction is why he is
CLEARLY THE MAN BEST SUITED TO BECOME THE NEXT
PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA
.
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Ron Paul's belief in a Free Trade system without conditions isnt to help Americans. It's to open the gates of America's wealth and distribute it throughout the world.

Cant you see that? It will do nothing for America except drain us further.
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Free trade is Globalism dumbnut.

85% of Obama's foreign aid proposals was for muslim countries. Thank God, no one actually listens to him.
 Quoting: Mad Pole


glob·al·ism   /ˈgloʊbəˌlɪzəm/ Show Spelled[gloh-buh-liz-uhm] Show IPA
noun
the attitude or policy of placing the interests of the entire world above those of individual nations.

free trade 
noun
1. trade between countries, free from governmental restrictions or duties.
2. international trade free from protective duties and subject only to such tariffs as are needed for revenue.
3. the system, principles, or maintenance of such trade.
4. Chiefly Scot. smuggling.

[link to dictionary.reference.com]





This is why it is impossible to argue with you anti paul shills, EVERYTHING has to be explained to you.

Use that link BEFORE posting.
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Now lets put it all together so you understand:

Globalization is a process of interaction and integration among the people, companies, and governments of different nations, a process driven by international trade and investment and aided by information technology. This process has effects on the environment, on culture, on political systems, on economic development and prosperity, and on human physical well-being in societies around the world

[link to www.globalization101.org]
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This current wave of globalization has been driven by policies that have opened economies domestically and internationally. In the years since the Second World War, and especially during the past two decades, many governments have adopted free-market economic systems, vastly increasing their own productive potential and creating myriad new opportunities for international trade and investment. Governments also have negotiated dramatic reductions in barriers to commerce and have established international agreements to promote trade in goods, services, and investment. Taking advantage of new opportunities in foreign markets, corporations have built foreign factories and established production and marketing arrangements with foreign partners. A defining feature of globalization, therefore, is an international industrial and financial business structure.

So how is Ron Paul not a proponent of Globalization by wanting to make things easier to do so?

Explain how Ron Paul is not a Globalist
 Quoting: Mad Pole


Globalism

by Ron Paul
by Ron Paul


DIGG THIS

The recent defeat of the amnesty bill in the Senate came after outraged Americans made it clear to the political elite that they would not tolerate this legislation, which would further erode our national sovereignty. Similarly, polls increasingly show the unpopularity of the Iraq war, as well as of the Congress that seems incapable of ending it.

Because some people who vocally oppose amnesty are supportive of the war, the ideological connection between support of the war and amnesty is often masked. If there is a single word explaining the reasons why we continue to fight unpopular wars and see legislation like the amnesty bill nearly become law, that word is “globalism.”

The international elite, including many in the political and economic leadership of this country, believe our constitutional republic is antiquated and the loyalty Americans have for our form of government is like a superstition, needing to be done away with. When it benefits elites, they pay lip service to the American way, even while undermining it.



Read all of the article here: [link to www.lewrockwell.com]

It isn't very long.
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What China does in its own house is none of our business.

Making prisoners work! Oh the horror.
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And I suppose you think Americans should police the world too,that's one of the main problems facing America these days our government thinks they have to control everything and they stick their nose where it doesn't belong. If you keep sticking your nose where it doesn't belong you usually end up with a broken nose.
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And I suppose you think Americans should police the world too,that's one of the main problems facing America these days our government thinks they have to control everything and they stick their nose where it doesn't belong. If you keep sticking your nose where it doesn't belong you usually end up with a broken nose.
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I would rather us be isolationist again, pure and simple. If Ron Paul really believed our sovereignty then he would be all for making regulations considering trade with us, in our best interests.

He doesnt want to do that. He has no interests in protecting America whether domestically or internationally. Nothing he says proves the opposite.


Ron Paul will end the wars, only to start a much bigger. Look at the man, look at his policies, and pull the viel from your eyes
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