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Illegal to live off the grid: Residents being driven off their own land

 
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Illegal to live off the grid: Residents being driven off their own land


Residents of Antelope Valley, CA, are being driven off their land for endless code violations. These people live literally miles from their nearest neighbors, in the desert. They are bothering no one. But the government wants them to comply with intrusive and expensive regulations in order to be 'allowed' to stay. Such as paying thousands of dollars to bring electricity to their humble living quarters.
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If masses of people would just stop for a minute and stand up for the rights of others than things would start to change. I would go in a heartbeat in a swarm of a million heads to tell these people its over but unfortunately everyone is to busy for self and then cries when injustices are committed against them ~sigh~
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Residents of Antelope Valley, CA, are being driven off their land for endless code violations. These people live literally miles from their nearest neighbors, in the desert. They are bothering no one. But the government wants them to comply with intrusive and expensive regulations in order to be 'allowed' to stay. Such as paying thousands of dollars to bring electricity to their humble living quarters.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1403351


WOW - THIS IS TOTALLY WRONG. FUCK THEM. NEXT TIME THEY COME, BREAK OUT A FIREHOUSE AND BLAST THEM OFF THE PROPERTY.
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09/05/2011 12:44 AM
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Re: Illegal to live off the grid: Residents being driven off their own land
Wait, being FORCED to buy utilities? What the fuck?
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09/05/2011 12:45 AM
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Re: Illegal to live off the grid: Residents being driven off their own land
Here's an idea... let them bring electricity and plumbing... then cut it off when no one pays the bills.
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09/05/2011 12:48 AM
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Unannounced Inspeactions.

"Nuisance Abatement Teams"

DEPLOY THE SENTINALS...IMMEGIATELY
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09/05/2011 12:50 AM
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Re: Illegal to live off the grid: Residents being driven off their own land
That is bullshit. Cali sucks like this. We must stand up for property rights.
I really don't know what to do. I would write to congressman, city council, zoning laws. There must be some legal help we can get or do.
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Re: Illegal to live off the grid: Residents being driven off their own land
Here's an idea... let them bring electricity and plumbing... then cut it off when no one pays the bills.
 Quoting: Bugsy Moran


scheming

Yes great idea... if the utility companies pay to have it brought out there....
most of them won't though.
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Re: Illegal to live off the grid: Residents being driven off their own land


Residents of Antelope Valley, CA, are being driven off their land for endless code violations. These people live literally miles from their nearest neighbors, in the desert. They are bothering no one. But the government wants them to comply with intrusive and expensive regulations in order to be 'allowed' to stay. Such as paying thousands of dollars to bring electricity to their humble living quarters.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1403351


Agenda 21 or these people have value under their land
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09/05/2011 12:59 AM
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Re: Illegal to live off the grid: Residents being driven off their own land
He also forced everyone, small and great, rich and poor, free and slave, to receive a mark on his right hand or on his forehead, so that no one could buy or sell unless he had the mark, which is the name of the beast or the number of his name. Revelation 13:16-17

The key word here is forced. Its coming people, and most will accept it. They will choose to save their earthly life over righteousness.

For whoever wants to save his life will lose it, but whoever loses his life for me will find it. Matthew 16:25
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09/05/2011 01:06 AM
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Follow the money.
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09/05/2011 01:11 AM
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Are there no Amish in Cali?
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09/05/2011 01:12 AM
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" THEY " want to centralize us in big cities,, easier to keep us under control. This is just one way they are working it!
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09/05/2011 01:14 AM
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My guess would be a big solar ranch, and that dirty old PG&E has an interest in it...
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Here's an idea... let them bring electricity and plumbing... then cut it off when no one pays the bills.
 Quoting: Bugsy Moran


right there
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09/05/2011 01:16 AM
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Re: Illegal to live off the grid: Residents being driven off their own land
That is bullshit. Cali sucks like this. We must stand up for property rights.
I really don't know what to do. I would write to congressman, city council, zoning laws. There must be some legal help we can get or do.
 Quoting: finley


Vote Ron Paul...he'll fix that sht!
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09/05/2011 01:18 AM
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Re: Illegal to live off the grid: Residents being driven off their own land
yeah, but to be truly off the grid one needs to remain mobile...thats my plan any way1dunno1
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09/05/2011 01:19 AM
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Re: Illegal to live off the grid: Residents being driven off their own land
it's not illegal to live off the grid.

it's called being a bum or having "no fixed address".
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09/05/2011 01:20 AM
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wildlands project: [link to www.youtube.com]
Bugsy Moran

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09/05/2011 01:22 AM
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If a bum is in one place too long it's called loitering.

By the way if you're homeless with a driver's license the best thing you can do is buy a used moving truck with a sliding door partition between the driver's area and the bed. Set up a room in the back with a bed, some camping lanterns (no fire), and get a shitload of quilts for the winter.
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09/05/2011 01:25 AM
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Re: Illegal to live off the grid: Residents being driven off their own land
it would be neat to live a backpacker's lifestyle. as long as you have money in the bank, you can do anything.
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09/05/2011 01:28 AM
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it would be neat to live a backpacker's lifestyle. as long as you have money in the bank, you can do anything.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 322602


soon money will be of no importance, or banks.
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Re: Illegal to live off the grid: Residents being driven off their own land
I get $850 in my account a month... enough for backpacking in the US and Mexico... but avoiding Mexico... I'd like to keep my head.
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09/05/2011 01:34 AM
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Re: Illegal to live off the grid: Residents being driven off their own land
rageface rageface
rageface rageface

ARGHHHH GOD DAMNIT
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09/05/2011 01:36 AM
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Re: Illegal to live off the grid: Residents being driven off their own land
yeah, but to be truly off the grid one needs to remain mobile...thats my plan any way1dunno1
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That requires a lot of energy, one way or another. Easier to do if you're by yourself.
Be aware of what you KNOW and what you BELIEVE. Don't ever let what you believe block the path of knowledge, for knowledge is truth. Belief is a temporary crutch at best, and crutches are for disabled people.
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Re: Illegal to live off the grid: Residents being driven off their own land
I live in a small hamlet, that twenty years ago had tank water only. The council put town water on and then decreed that it was necessary to remove all tank systems in order to connect to the town system.

Now after all these years and a few major droughts, the same wise council gives you a rebate to put the tanks back.
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09/05/2011 01:39 AM
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Re: Illegal to live off the grid: Residents being driven off their own land
That's the communists for you don't you love them?
They don't believe in freedom of choice they want everyone to be the Borg.
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09/05/2011 01:40 AM
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Re: Illegal to live off the grid: Residents being driven off their own land
These guys are great Americans, independent and strong. They have the spirit of people who lived out on the frontier.

I assume they have to pay property taxes on their land, which is unfortunate, but for that they can send their children to the "local" school. Other than that, they should be left alone and allowed peaceful enjoyment of their property.
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Re: Illegal to live off the grid: Residents being driven off their own land
I live in a small hamlet, that twenty years ago had tank water only. The council put town water on and then decreed that it was necessary to remove all tank systems in order to connect to the town system.

Now after all these years and a few major droughts, the same wise council gives you a rebate to put the tanks back.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1366100


Before all the buttraping bushfires in the Blue Mountains of NSW, it was illegal to have a water tank because it looked "unsightly". They changed their minds for some reason...
Be aware of what you KNOW and what you BELIEVE. Don't ever let what you believe block the path of knowledge, for knowledge is truth. Belief is a temporary crutch at best, and crutches are for disabled people.
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Here's an idea... let them bring electricity and plumbing... then cut it off when no one pays the bills.
 Quoting: Bugsy Moran



LoL! Good one!
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Re: Illegal to live off the grid: Residents being driven off their own land
yeah, but to be truly off the grid one needs to remain mobile...thats my plan any way1dunno1
 Quoting: exiled1


That requires a lot of energy, one way or another. Easier to do if you're by yourself.
 Quoting: 13.0.0.0.0


Yes, it's the Bedouin way, in areas that do not have private property rights. But California has private property rights supposedly, and these guys have the private property.

Mike Antonovich just hates that. Even moreso, that the land there is probably cheap enough that you too could buy a patch, put up a cheap structure and live there. This sort of self-reliance is the American way as we used to know it.

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