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My Experiences - Representing The Spiritual [Non Religious/ Love and Light/ Crackpot] Side Of The Conspiracy

 
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My Experiences - Representing The Spiritual [Non Religious/ Love and Light/ Crackpot] Side Of The Conspiracy
Yes, that's right, I went there.

I don't belong to or claim to represent any organization, belief system, religion, cult or tin foil hat space hippy Galactic Federation command.

Although I do actually hang out on a forum belonging to the latter, simply because it's probably the closest group I can find to even slightly taking anything I say seriously, although most of the time it's disregarded as being negative / disinformation apparently because their hearts are too weak for my "vibrations". I consider that mindset to be incredibly naive.

Yes, I am well aware that sane and genuinely nice individuals belong to all groups I mentioned above, I'm strictly generalizing here. If you're one of the small percentage of decent people with those groups, please don't be offended.

I came to GLP after lurking here many times and actually in light of your recent guest, CaptainS. I decided well heck, I might as well give my own information a shot. Whether it survives the trolls and discerning minds is another thing, I wouldn't be surprised if I ended up being banned altogether.

I'm not sure where to start on all this, but basically I'm attempting to come here, make some crazy wild statements as factually as possible and hope to share at least some of the things I've seen going on "in the realms" in regards to earth and such. I really wish I had insider knowledge to divulge in the way of actually agencies involved down here on earth but that's just not the case.

Don't get me wrong here, I'm a very factual and evidence /logic based person however based on some of the things I've seen I don't discount the reality or validity of intuition/ empathy etc. I believe they have a relationship akin to Spiritual beliefs and Science. Whilst they don't tend to get along so well, the two actually compliment each other very well.

A brief introduction/ history to myself;

In 2004, unaware to me at the time I began sharing dreams with a person who lived on the other side of the world. These dreams were so incredibly realistic, sensible (no random elements) and profound that they inspired me to write a story of a person called "Reikara", the story of which was under continuous development until 2010 when I just happened to meet the person I had been sharing dreams with on a spiritual community site online.

Both being heavily evidence based individuals, we withheld facts from each other that the other would amazingly confirm without prior mention of them. As we talked more and more we began to realize we had been having more shared dreams (we shared them through our own perspectives, just like real life, not occupying the same body in the dream.)than just 1 or 2. We initially theorized it needed to be put down to a past life connection, as in order to have shared dreams you need to have a very good connection with the person to begin with.

He explained to me a past life story he had been writing since as long as he could remember of a character that remains classified until I can get his permission to divulge that information, and how although he had initially fought it, when he "woke up" as it's called to the reality of other dimensional realities, in particular what we have since been terming the astral and spiritual planes (there is a difference between the two) he was more or less forced to realize he was the character his story was about.

I then told him my own story I had written about and he freaked- as there had been a cross over between our stories. My story contained accurate information of names and such that his did in a particular segment. (These are all past life based on Earths in different dimensions.)

I'm going to try and refrain from a wall of text here, basically since then we've been constantly sharing dreams which has since become a norm, we've learnt how to access the "spiritual" and astral realms and cross over into astral via dream states etc. We actually have a small group of friends now about 5 or 6 of us which we've discovered some of us have past life connections.

We've been watching and been involved in some of the events on those levels which have been affecting some (not all) events down here on Earth. Some of those in our group work for factions which no, have nothing to do with the tin foil hat LnL (love and light) brigade. They're legitimate military style factions that are actually Terran based from nexus dimension, I think was the name and are basically acting as Terran's defense against otherworldly factions since our own military is kind of fucked up and would screw us over given the chance right now.

I know there's genuinely good people in our militaries, it just so happens it's the corrupt ones keeping the good ones in line. I had two officers from either the AUS or US military involved in this whole conspiracy deal approach me in AP (Astral projection)about a month ago to explain their genuine concern over the public's reaction when things get out as they told me, there are genuinely decent human beings still working within those complexes trying to stamp out the corruption from the inside and disclose the reality of everything they've kept secret. I'm not sure which country they were from as I generally can't pick up Australian or slight American accents, they sound normal to me.

They actually got me in AP while I was asleep, I figured they were probably going around hijacking people's dreams as a broadcast type thing. I had figured that based on that encounter, maybe things were close to tipping point now. Not sure where I'm going with this. Either way.

Do I expect anyone to believe any of what I had just said or claimed?

No.

Do I expect anyone to take anything I just said seriously?

No. Please take it with a grain of salt, if there's anything I detest in this world, it's blind faith.

Is there any real benefit anyone can get from my information?

Not any that I can see. All I really is my own opinion and perspective. I don't have the whole picture, only what I've interpreted from my own experiences.

Basically, there's so much information I've come across lately that it's impractical to put it into one post. Instead I'm going to do a CaptainS and ask people to ask a question directly, assuming any of what I had just is true and any of the information I have is actually legit, what would you like to know?

Disclaimer: I sure as hell don't know everything, and just like CaptainS, there are certain things I can't and won't divulge within good reason. We're not even told everything that happens simply due to being civilians in our physical bodies down here who can be easily tapped, unlike the "Galactic Federation of Light" who likes to divulge as much sensitive information to the enemy as possible, the groups my friends and I work / associate with do have some form of security measures.

Please note; while two of my friends work for them directly, I'm actually entirely Independent, though my alliance is to Terrans, not Nations. I know less than they actually do in regards to information surrounding those groups, however all the information they have given me is safe for public knowledge. I will still check back with them on certain things however. The last thing we want is a freaking religion made out of any of them.

In conclusion. I am not here to tell you anything about yourself, what your past lives are, what your spirit body looks like or who your work for up there. I'm not a psychic nor an empath and I have more important things to do than chasing down people's spirit bodies and telling their physical minds what to believe. Figure that shit out for yourself and gain some independence of thought.

I'm not here to sell you lord and savior myths or how friendly and shiny some random all knowing benevolent ET races are that will rapture humanity and save it from itself. My experiences have painted a much different reality for me.

I'm only here to shed some light on my experiences in regards to down here and out there. Yes, in regards to ETs and such as well. What would you like to know? Skepticism encouraged, I like discerning minds.
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Oh and I forgot to add, I have absolutely zero proof to back up any of the claims I make here. In actual fact, we're still not entirely 100% convinced of the reality of all this ourselves, despite constant small "evidence" popping up constantly, until we all see this with our own eyes our faith in the reality of these experiences fluctuates at around 95%.

We've accepted the likely possibility of it, but until the people we associate with are down here like they claim they will be in the near future, they are not here. Thus why I said, take everything I saw with a grain of salt.
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very interesting read. thanks for sharing your story.

you said there is "concern over the public's reaction when things get out"

what things exactly?
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How do you hook up to the astral?
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very interesting read. thanks for sharing your story.

you said there is "concern over the public's reaction when things get out"

what things exactly?
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I guess I just meant the whole cover up in general. From how I perceive things there's really two sides to the cover up in the way of physical and "esoterical".

The military (generic term we use to refer to any and all earth based factions involved in possessing advanced technology and essentially abusing/ misusing it under a fascist regime, we don't know exactly who is involved to a deeper extent, only for certain of the US military complex's involvement, since it's their "projects" we/ they tend to deal with down here when it comes to that. We have about as much knowledge on physical related things as the general public do.)has been developing itself using both.

Basically involving the disclosure, however (or IF) it occurs, on their suppression of Extra terrestrial existence, advanced artifacts they've found/ been looking for (a lot are situated in the middle east - our suspicion for the Iraq war and so on), their "super soldier" projects and dabbling in to or rather, abuse of esoterical knowledge against the populace, back engineering of stolen technologies, deals with ET groups/ factions leading to abductions etc.

There's really too many things to list but I think you'd kinda get the idea, or at least anyone who does a fair bit of researching of many of the conspiracies out there would understand what I'm getting at. They had supposedly made a deal with the "grey" race in the 1950s as far as the story goes, to allow them to abduct a few people here and there in exchange for advanced tech, however they were duped and the greys abducted far more people than they had anticipated.

Whether the deal happened or not, as far as my own experiences went I'm pretty convinced they were working with the greys among a couple other races too. However it was more like a "lesser of two evils" of the situation. Either cooperate or face a full scale invasion. Then you also had the guys in those earth based factions who realized they could misuse/ abuse this advanced technology by keeping it to themselves and keeping the populace under their feet, under their little elitist/ fascist regime, which are the remaining problem/ threat today. The ET thing has been dealt with since.

You could kind of imagine, if the public became privy to this, what their reaction might be if they realized their own agencies set up to protect them were the ones suppressing them, denying them any right to access basic knowledge and technologies that would greatly improve their own living conditions and essentially eradicate world poverty in all forms.

I hope I answered that properly, I'm a little tired here.

-Again take this with a grain of salt.
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How do you hook up to the astral?
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There's many ways and also many astral planes to connect to. I actually don't know the science behind it, but the person I referred to in my original post has studied years worth of physics explanations for most of it. However he declined to come here and contribute as he's tired of the general negative reactions he gets to his information.

I'll try my best, although the whole astral thing really deserves a book to best explain it. To simplify it, we start off with what we'll call the dream realms. You have your typical subconscious dreams with randomized elements, then it goes up as the dreams become more lucid and you start to become more conscious of where you are/ sense of self, etc.

The lucid dreams then begin to blur and merge over into the lower astral realms, which is typically where "ghosts" (astral bodies) reside. Everyone has an astral body, ghosts are seen when they're able to manifest a strong enough energy to appear on the physical plane. As far as I know there's also various levels/ planes of the astral too. Although I don't believe these merge with what we've been terming the spiritual planes, I think there's a sort of void or membrane between them.

A lot of astral accounts online that you can read up on are what we call "Full transitions" in that your entire conscience has fully transitioned to either your astral or spiritual body, which also happens naturally upon death of the physical body. We don't actually fully transition, not all the time, and when that does happen, it's by accident, we've been trying to learn how to, it's not easy.

It's really difficult to explain this because imagination in the initial stages of how we learnt to do this played a huge part. At the same time though I've been incredibly reluctant to teach or divulge the method I use, if I even could because of the dangers present. It's actually not a playground nor are all the beings there benign and loving just because they possess advanced technology, which is a common misconception of the realms. There's no connection between morals or ethics with evolution. I think our own race could testify to that.

I'm sure many will disagree with me on that. I guess I should explain in further. Your bodies are all connected, and any injuries sustained in the astral or spiritual bodies tend to bleed through. And yes, we've had our share of those. Our actions up there have naturally created enemies and we're more or less siting ducks. The physical plane tends to vibrate a lot slower if I correctly remember his explanation, so mysterious injuries if any that we acquire on our physical bodies tend to be far less severe then what we've sustained up there and there's also a time delay on when they begin to appear.

Essentially if you've started bleeding down here from an injury up there you're in pretty bad shape up there. I think he termed it the "Kruger effect" for obvious reasons. Our connections to those realms are based through dreams and conscious/ mind projections, it's not anything difficult and can be learnt like any skill however it will require dedication / practice. There is no quick way to learn it.

I think if anyone wanted to learn how to do it however, i'd rather refer them to online astral projection guides which
only deal with the astral realms down here. They also possess risks however I'd feel a little better knowing it's nothing as bad as up there. I'd just say be wary of what you're getting yourself into, it may become too real for your liking.

However if you're serious about it, here's a tip. Water, lots of it. For whatever reason we can't explain, it just seems to be the fuel source for astral projections. I can't even have a normal dream or any heavy/ deep though without requiring lots of water now. The less chemicals in it, the better also, but tap water is still fine.

There's also this one, which helped me to learn how to cross over into astral realms during lucid dreams. It may sound silly but since the realm switching is driven by your conscience (mind) it makes sense. When you go to sleep, create a strong intent in your mind to stay conscious during your dreams. Constantly doing this over a period of time will eventually carry that intent over to your dream state and allow you more lucid dreams, as a starting point to astral.

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Thanks for your reply, I have a little experience with the astral and have been shown a grid by an old druid looking man he was talking but I could not hear him properly I was awake not asleep but I was in two place's at once my body and somewhere else and the old man was showing me the grid with a wave of his arm and it looked like an electric field, then I was back in my body and I have been researching the grid and what it is.


During your travels have you come across the grid or heard of it?
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Thanks for the detailed answer. If what you say is true, then I think anyone causing so much suffering should be way more concerned with the karmic consequences of their choices, rather than any retribution that would come from victims. (just my opinion, however)

don't tire yourself out too much. rest and come back later. hf

here are 2 more questions:

are there any extra-terrestrial races or other dimensional beings that are trying to liberate us from our situation?

if so, what do you feel are their chances of succeeding?
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Thanks for your reply, I have a little experience with the astral and have been shown a grid by an old druid looking man he was talking but I could not hear him properly I was awake not asleep but I was in two place's at once my body and somewhere else and the old man was showing me the grid with a wave of his arm and it looked like an electric field, then I was back in my body and I have been researching the grid and what it is.


During your travels have you come across the grid or heard of it?
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I've heard of many grids, that could apply to many places. The two mains one I keep hearing of both down here in conspiracist circles and both up there mentioned frequently and would consider to be of most concern though is one which has been termed "The Planetary Grid" which as far as I understand it, if you laid out a map of the earth flat, it'd look like a perfect geometrical pattern.

It's apparently a deep underground grid that reaches from both poles around the earth, made up of giant crystals (larger than skyscrapers). It's said to be some natural massive planetary energy network, although don't quote me on that. I've never even seen it for myself. It's just what I've heard. I always had my doubts about it because it was something the Galactic Federation/ Ashtar Command followers kept talking about, although the people up there are saying it's real.

The other grid is the one that a lot of full transition astral travelers strangely report, all independent of each other. Naturally the first thing they want to do in their astral experience when they learn they can fly is fly out of the atmosphere and explore the local solar system.

However weirdly there is always some invisible force preventing them from leaving earth. It's some kind of barrier. We've learnt that there's been placed what we call a "distortion field" around the earth, which has literally created Earth's own little reality pocket, separate from our solar system / universe.

It's also apparently responsible for time lapses in shared dreams as the first one I had with one of my astral friends occurred in 2004 for me, while he had his end of the dream sometime in 2010/2009. The time lapses have since shortened to months and weeks, currently they are now down to days.

The origin of the distortion field is that it's been up for a good few thousand years, it hasn't always been there, which points to the fact that it was artificially placed. Of course the general question is usually "why doesn't anyone take it down" however while it keeps people in, it also keeps danger out.

As far as the story goes, ships and such have been finding their way in and out via either "holes" in the field which would occur from time to time or via gates/ portals etc. However it's no longer viable to risk an entry or exit through DF holes since the field is apparently spinning rapidly as it's coming off.
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OK the last bit peaked my interest, could you please elaborate on how the displacement field is coming off?

Is it being removed? If so by who.

Is it fading? If so why now?

Is there a hierarchy in the astral, say like the astral police if you get my drift?
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you said: "It's actually not a playground nor are all the beings there benign and loving"

that I can verify is truth from my own experiences. I ended up in the lower astral once, entirely by accident, and I was immediately attacked there. not a nice place.

the rest of your info is beyond my experience. but I like to maintain an open mind to all possibilities :)
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Thanks for the detailed answer. If what you say is true, then I think anyone causing so much suffering should be way more concerned with the karmic consequences of their choices, rather than any retribution that would come from victims. (just my opinion, however)

don't tire yourself out too much. rest and come back later. hf

here are 2 more questions:

are there any extra-terrestrial races or other dimensional beings that are trying to liberate us from our situation?

if so, what do you feel are their chances of succeeding?
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Ha ha, I'll get to sleep eventually, and I was waiting for someone to ask that question.

I tend to abbreviate/ refer to them as ETs/ EDs. (EDs being Extra-dimensional, even if it doesn't make much sense). As far as I know yes. I'll take it further, although I really don't want to get too much deeper into this particular section. Since upon entering the Spiritual realms, I've more or less discovered that beings from every myth and legend had their origin somewhere in reality, whether the fables were accurate, or only half so.

Just food for thought I guess, but I think that one is going to get me a crackpot label. One of my other friends who is associated with an allied / connection faction of my friend mentioned in the original post has described on occasion to me these small yellow-ish skinned 4 - 5ft tall "grey" looking race with cat like eyes. Their bodies are bit bulkier/ filled out and better proportioned than the greys.

Other than those guys, the majority of the rest of the beings we mostly associate are either of Terran nature from other dimensions (hence the motive for assisting us) or human ETs, you wouldn't tell the difference between them and us.

But something I want to strongly highlight here is that you can't classify entire races as good or bad. The yellow beings I mentioned above are involved only on a military level, not as an entire race. The planet they're native to is shared with an ET human race, who also make up membership of their military, and the fleet they sent out to assist.

I'm not going to start saying who is good or bad here because it just doesn't happen in reality and no entire race as far as I'm aware is entirely committed to liberating the populace of earth. They may sympathize as a culture and send aid like any country here sent aid like they did with the Haiti quakes, but that's generally as involved as they get.

As far as succeeding goes, well that's a whole other thing on it's own. Some of the factions vying for liberation here act independent due to issues we don't all agree on and thus refuse to ally with anyone. Like exactly how anyone should go about doing it, whether it's even actually ok for an ET race to come down and occupy / invade (no matter which light you shine on it, it's essentially what it is) and tell Terrans how they should live their lives.

(As good as some of the intentions are, some cultures see theirs as being right, and ours as being barbaric and needing to be changed, which causes conflict with us also.) So there's also major differences of opinions which no one can really agree on either. I couldn't really tell if anyone was going to come out of all of this victorious at all, heck I couldn't even tell you what was going to happen within the next couple of months.

We're not being told or given any information period as far as their operations go, within good reason. All I could really say is that anything or nothing could happen, we all just have to wait and see, and hopefully be prepared for whatever comes.

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you said: "It's actually not a playground nor are all the beings there benign and loving"

that I can verify is truth from my own experiences. I ended up in the lower astral once, entirely by accident, and I was immediately attacked there. not a nice place.

the rest of your info is beyond my experience. but I like to maintain an open mind to all possibilities :)
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I'm sorry to hear that. :(

The reason being is that it's just far too easy for beings out there to manipulate and attack people who belong to a culture who are horribly misinformed or just unaware in general of the astral/ spiritual realms and how to at least protect themselves in it. It just makes the entire populace easy targets, and there's multitudes of incentives for beings or Terrans who know how to use the realms to scare people out of investigating them.

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OK the last bit peaked my interest
Is there a hierarchy in the astral, say like the astral police if you get my drift?
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"Piqued"

In my personal experience, I've noticed certain astral entities that could be said to "keeping an eye" on things, from time to time.
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OK the last bit peaked my interest
Is there a hierarchy in the astral, say like the astral police if you get my drift?
 Quoting: oRbZ


"Piqued"

In my personal experience, I've noticed certain astral entities that could be said to "keeping an eye" on things, from time to time.
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There's no real hierarchy I've noticed to exist in the astral, but there certainly is a very annoying one in the spiritual realms who's jurisdiction reach down to the astral plane. There's various orders and such that are what could you liken to police, and governing bodies that are generally assigned to represent planets, solar systems, galaxies etc.

Although I don't to put my 100% faith in them or whatever. If you think of the term "as above, so below" I think it paints a good picture of how things are mirrored. Again, this is generalizing, good and genuine individuals exist in those too.

These "police" will visit the astral and such, where ever they're needed. I've noticed there's been a lot of chaotic activity on the astral planes here recently, so there's probably a few good around. These are the beings who also generally aid people being attacked in the astral if they're aware of the activity or called to help. Generally things like prayers, intent for help etc will draw their attention, energy / intent signatures like that can be read or picked up by beings near by if you broadcast them.

Which is also why a lot of people get attacked in the first place, because they enter astral with a naive mindset which they unwittingly broadcast around for everyone to see. You can learn how to mask your energy and intent signatures etc also. Although I wouldn't have a clue how to explain it, it's like trying to explain how to breathe.

I guess that's the most simplistic view of it. There's many sort of organizations that deal with various levels of threats, no real generalized "police force" that will deal with anything and everything. They have their own specializations and training. Kind of like police, SWAT, military, navy seals etc.
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By what means is the distortion field coming off?

When is it due to be completely removed?

Why are you coming forward now?

Thanks for all of your answers.
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By what means is the distortion field coming off?

When is it due to be completely removed?

Why are you coming forward now?

Thanks for all of your answers.
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By what means, I'm not sure. I can't remember if it was a natural process or someone prodded it into activity. I'll have to ask and get back to you on that.

When is it due?

I don't think they know even. If I use my shared dreams as any sort of indicator, I'm guessing it's getting pretty weak since the longest time delays between them only get as long as a few days now. However if it were to come off, I think it could potentially be one of those "determining factors".

As in, something that could potentially tip events towards the "shit hits the fan" scenario, as the upcomming economic crash could be too.

Why am I coming forward now?

Well I was torn on it, but inspired by CaptainS. I've known and actually been posting on this information elsewhere in tidbits for a while, no one just ever took it seriously because they labeled me as a "darkworker", in that anyone who posts "negative" information is apparently a CIA mind control agent. I was obviously not in the right community.

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Seeing as no one else is asking I will continue.

What kind of stuff can you achieve with the abilities that you have? I mean like what you do in the astral, does it overflow in to this reality? If so do you know how?

Can you use what you know to help people?

If so how?

Are you a part of any other groups apart from the ones mentioned?
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thanks orbz for your questions. I'm interested also in hearing about the technical aspects of astral travel. BTW the earlier discussion of the artificial grid or distortion field around earth that prevents us from leaving earth seems to tie in with the theory that we are on a prison planet. That our memories are erased when we die and we keep reincarnating over and over on earth in some kind spiritual trap. Reikara what are your thoughts on that?

And I don't think you are dark or negative, you are just relating what you have seen. I accept that not everything in the universe is warm and fuzzy. Saying that, I admit I am one of those annoying "light and love" types, I try to focus on the positive.

since you brought up the economic collapse, I have another question. Can you see or sense world events on the astral plane before they occur here on the physical? You mentioned earlier that you can sustain spiritual injury there, that then manifests in your physical body at a later time. "The Kruger effect"

Does that mean the global upheaval that is on its way actually originated in the spiritual realm?
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whats your take on this

Although it is our highest wish that Disclosure and First Contact would come, it is foreseen by those of us that have looked into the timelines that devastation is upon the planet. The reason why you have been led into false expectations all this time is due to the fact that those who have been planning the agendas for First Contact and working toward integrating the agendas with your Govts. such as the Federation First Contact teams and those that have planned these agendas with your Govts. simply DO NOT UNDERSTAND THE POWERS on the planet that they are dealing with as well as dark universal powers, which have permeated this Universe.
more here.
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Seeing as no one else is asking I will continue.

What kind of stuff can you achieve with the abilities that you have? I mean like what you do in the astral, does it overflow in to this reality? If so do you know how?

Can you use what you know to help people?

If so how?

Are you a part of any other groups apart from the ones mentioned?
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As far as the abilities go, I'm not going to get too much into that, however let's put it like this. There's a "law" let's say that can be applied to physical plane and spiritual realm:

"As above so below"

Meaning that this plane will reflect the spiritual realms's state of affairs, as whatever happens up there will eventually bleed down into this level, gradually but surely. So even minor or major wave making will eventually trickle down to this realm and events will reflect whatever was affected up there.

I think I need break it down further, in that these spiritual realms are not the typically garden of eden/ paradise everyone is looking for. As far as I'm concerned the Buddhists had it right when they said those sort of things can only come from you, not outside of you.

The spiritual realm, despite the nature of that dimension being somewhat different to this (it's not a round world or planet, it's actually, yes, flat, and never ending. If you walked in a single line you will ever end up at the same point. Seasons, environments, weather etc seems to oddly just change/ exist in different areas.) it's actually not so different to this one as people may think.


The same laws of physics still apply up there, people up there are all still individuals and originate from various cultures etc, and yes, because everyone is actually different up there like they are down here, they don't always get along on 100% everything. To achieve a paradise the scriptures go on about, everyone would have to be an identical clone of one person. That doesn't sound like a paradise to me.

Not to say that some form of "paradise" is never attainable, I just don't believe in perfectionism. It'll take work to achieve, not a magic fairy wand.

As far as helping people, yes to an extent.

On the forum we generally frequent people have claimed to be harassed by the so called "Illuminati" in the astral, (most of whom are no more than playground bullies in terms of what they can do, however I believe some members in their upper echelons know more than we'd like them to)malevolent beings in general etc, and we've dealt with those before.

One member in our group who's what's termed a "healer" in the realms, essentially just a spiritual doctor has performed etheric surgeries on us and others at times to remedy spiritual injuries/ remove etheric implants etc.

No, I don't belong to any groups, organizations or factions/ whatever period up there. I only just associate with the groups my friends work with and I borrow their technology and other resources at times for my own work.
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whats your take on this

Although it is our highest wish that Disclosure and First Contact would come, it is foreseen by those of us that have looked into the timelines that devastation is upon the planet. The reason why you have been led into false expectations all this time is due to the fact that those who have been planning the agendas for First Contact and working toward integrating the agendas with your Govts. such as the Federation First Contact teams and those that have planned these agendas with your Govts. simply DO NOT UNDERSTAND THE POWERS on the planet that they are dealing with as well as dark universal powers, which have permeated this Universe.
more here.
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-Edited- due to reading message wrong-

Raheem is a bit of a strange guy, I met with him on a forum previously and then met with him briefly up in the realms a while ago. Our group didn't get along with him so well but I actually do agree with him on a lot of things he says. I was a little sad to see that not a lot of people were taking any of his messages seriously or instantly discounting them as "disinformation".

Here's the most important part to explain though, everyone believes they're right, even up there. Everyone who visits the realms will always come back with incredibly different opinions. So it's not that we could really say that any of us have the whole truth, we only have what we believe to be "truth" from our own perspectives and opinions.

Our group doesn't get along with the GFL in general, because of their methods planned and their general attitudes towards Terrans, however a lot of people would also disagree with me on it if I went further into detail.

I don't work with or in the GFL, or his "New High Command" as he calls it so I wouldn't know what's happening within their organization. What I do believe is that Raheem does present more of a realistic view in that love and light won't solve absolutely everything, or end world poverty. Food and aid will.

I think it's just best if everyone just makes up their own minds regarding these types of messages and information, whether it's channeled or not. You're never going to know these things for 100% fact until you're able to see it with your own eyes, so just take whatever you find useful in them with a grain of salt, and the following years will determine everything.

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thanks orbz for your questions. I'm interested also in hearing about the technical aspects of astral travel. BTW the earlier discussion of the artificial grid or distortion field around earth that prevents us from leaving earth seems to tie in with the theory that we are on a prison planet. That our memories are erased when we die and we keep reincarnating over and over on earth in some kind spiritual trap. Reikara what are your thoughts on that?

And I don't think you are dark or negative, you are just relating what you have seen. I accept that not everything in the universe is warm and fuzzy. Saying that, I admit I am one of those annoying "light and love" types, I try to focus on the positive.

since you brought up the economic collapse, I have another question. Can you see or sense world events on the astral plane before they occur here on the physical? You mentioned earlier that you can sustain spiritual injury there, that then manifests in your physical body at a later time. "The Kruger effect"

Does that mean the global upheaval that is on its way actually originated in the spiritual realm?
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Well the lost memories/ amnesia is really just a natural process of reincarnation. However in the old teachings and I believe in a lot of the native tribes they used to teach and encourage the children to remember their past lives so they could deal with the issues that were carried over as soon as possible, so they could move on with their lives.

People with issues as far as I understand it are the main reasons for wanting to incarnate anywhere, although you could just elect to for no reason, or you just want to experience something different, etc. Issues can range from anything to phobias to deep seated emotional issues.

Friends and or soul family from up there can elect to become your "guides/ guardians" when you incarnate to help prod you along. There are also other ways to make a soul forget memories, however it was just a natural process here that worked in the favour of some.

As for the spiritual trap/ reincarnation cycle here, I'm not sure on that one. I'd have to ask one of my friends and see what her opinion is. I'm guessing it's probably not far from the truth, it'd make sense to me. However if souls are stuck reincarnating here because of the DF, I don't believe we could blame for that trap on the "elites" until we find out who was responsible for placing the field there.

Haha, there's nothing wrong with being positive. However I was mostly stuck trying to explain this to people who deluded themselves into believing there was nothing out there that could harm anyone, essentially because they were afraid. I believe in "all things in moderation". Being optimistic and a realist both have their uses.

Your last question there, is an excellent one. I had wondered how long until someone would ask it.

I think I'll just make this clear though in case. While this plane will tend to reflect the spiritual plane, it's not an exact 100% replica. Their culture for one is very medieval, which is suitable for people who don't age and don't require change so often in their society.

Global upheaval, yes, it most definitely had it's origins from up there. There's been a whole lot of activity going up there, in the form of riots and such. When I first started astralling, one of my guides hijacked my spirit body to a Federation of Worlds meeting in order to present a Terran view point on the situation of Earth, which they were ruling/ deciding over. In the end, even though they heard a rather emotional speech from a native they decided to not send any aid at that time, and that earth was a 'lost cause'.

Since then, they've (I won't elaborate on who exactly)been arresting apathetic and corrupt officials and persons of large influence in power and have eradicated their system they rely on for information which they never bothered to double check on before making a decision, one of the reasons corruption managed to find it's way in in the first place.

Lots of riots and such have erupted in the process, some for and some against that change. Only just recently the core of the corruption was destroyed, and I believe there's still some corrupt/ malevolent individuals around however since the remaining nasties no longer hold positions of influence I don't think they'll be any major threat.

So I was excited to read CaptainS's statement in that "good" guys were gaining ground and positions of power to be able to do things down here. However I'm not one to celebrate victory before it's won and many unexpected things could still happen yet, down here or up there.

As for sensing things, there is a way to gauge a general sense of the energy in the atmosphere around you, given off by the environment and souls. That tends to give you a general feel of what's going on behind the scenes, the past week or so there had been an intense feeling of anticipation, and it feels like it's there again.

It's also always important to note how the animals, especially wild ones are behaving. They're very in tune with that vibe and react accordingly. There's no real way to gauge exactly what will happen down here, only that by logic , it *should* technically mirror events from up there. How it will do that and when, we never know.

I think if anyone told you they know what the future was going to be, they'd be lying. While you can predict the most likely outcomes based off the current energies around, unexpected and random things can always occur to completely change that entire course of events.
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Thanks for all your answers, some good karma for you.

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I also don't believe the future can be predicted, I think the future is sort of quantum in nature. that the very act of observing it changes it, and that there are multiple timelines branching out from every moment. it seems the more accurate predictions rely on a "look for these signs" approach, rather than trying to pinpoint dates.

but I do think ordinary people can pick up on a certain vibe that "something" is coming in our world. maybe people in the physical plane can feel a lot of this chaos and rioting on the astral on a subliminal level, and understand it will influence events here shortly?

thanks very much for all this detailed info. much of what you are describing of other dimensions is confirming my own belief system. especially the notion that we have to create heaven, it's not given to us. very much like life here on earth.

here are more questions:

do you see any evidence that our attitudes and behavior in physical life influence the environment we access when we go to the astral, or the entities we attract to ourselves there?

do you get any sense that we incarnate here on earth with a "mission" to complete?

you described knowing your group of friends from a previous life. were you also astral travelers in your previous lives?
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one more....

do you have the link to the CaptainS thread? I would like to read it but it's not coming up in the GLP search.

thanks!
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I also don't believe the future can be predicted, I think the future is sort of quantum in nature. that the very act of observing it changes it, and that there are multiple timelines branching out from every moment. it seems the more accurate predictions rely on a "look for these signs" approach, rather than trying to pinpoint dates.

but I do think ordinary people can pick up on a certain vibe that "something" is coming in our world. maybe people in the physical plane can feel a lot of this chaos and rioting on the astral on a subliminal level, and understand it will influence events here shortly?

thanks very much for all this detailed info. much of what you are describing of other dimensions is confirming my own belief system. especially the notion that we have to create heaven, it's not given to us. very much like life here on earth.

here are more questions:

do you see any evidence that our attitudes and behavior in physical life influence the environment we access when we go to the astral, or the entities we attract to ourselves there?

do you get any sense that we incarnate here on earth with a "mission" to complete?

you described knowing your group of friends from a previous life. were you also astral travelers in your previous lives?
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Everyone is constantly registering signals/ signs and energies at a subconscious level and interpreting/ reading them, even if they're unaware of it and it does tend to affect their conscious minds very much so. I think of spirituality and the paranormal as a very "mind" orientated thing, you only become sensitive and aware of it once you open your mind to the possibilities. My own experiences proved that when I was 14 and began to dabble in "Wicca", which got far too real for my liking and poltergeists were attracted to my house. When I forcibly caused myself to disbelieve in the paranormal the poltergeists left.

It doesn't mean they weren't there, just that I could no longer feel or see them, or notice their activity. One member of our group complained constantly that he never got to see paranormal events on the physical plane so we suggested he take time out to notice the environment around him, all the smaller things. Then he began to report that he was noticing weird subtle events.

As far as I know, everyone's spirit and astral bodies tend to get around and do their own thing most of the time when their conscience down on the physical plane is entirely unaware of their existence. However that's a massive generalization and it entirely depends on your own situation, whatever it is. There can be many exceptions to that, and just exactly what they get up to depends on the individual.

I've been told for our case though, whenever we connect to our spirit bodies then disconnect back down this plane, they sort of remain in a zombie like/ spaced out state lol. I might get my friend to explain that one further though because I'm not sure about it. He said he'd come later and give proper explanations, he can go into scientific theories and make all this stuff sound way more convincing than I can ha ha.

Basically what I've found is that there's a lot of things from various religions and belief systems that I was surprised to find exist. Like some of what the GFL followers say about the "global conscience" seems to be true to an extent too. It's to do with the electro magnetic signals we emit and that somehow we're all connected on a "group conscience" level, which is also affected and can be easily influenced by the positioning the planets and such, astrology. I'm not talking about your daily horoscope readings though, more along the lines of this:

[link to darkstarastrology.com]

I'd say that if anyone wanted to be able to predict events with some amount of accuracy, that's probably as close as you'd get. And again, I think my friend can go further in depth on that one to explain how it affects us.


As for the heaven on earth, I think I will add that there are some very beautiful and strange places out there, in the realms and space, just as there are on Earth. However nothing is just handed on a silver platter, if you want something you need to work for it. Your home may look beautiful but at the end of the day, "paradise" is subjective and only works if you're willing to put in the effort to attain it.

A lot of the spiritual work we do also heavily focuses on our own self improvement and clearing of past life issues, once/ if we find them, which were originally part of the native cultures' teachings here.

"do you see any evidence that our attitudes and behavior in physical life influence the environment we access when we go to the astral, or the entities we attract to ourselves there?"

Yes, a lot. Your belief systems and or mindsets will definitely have a large influence on what you see and experience in the realms if you manage to get there. Communication isn't just spoken, out there it is also heavily based off of energy/ intent signatures and thoughts (telepathy).

You can pick up much more information from a short conversation just via the energy the person is giving off rather than from what they said. There are ways you can learn to mask all of those from being read however the average joe or jane probably isn't going to know how to do that let alone even be aware that they're broadcasting any of that information.

A lot of spirits for their own reasons can disguise themselves as well known spiritual figures or the real ones can even just pop up themselves if they detect a "newly awakened" as they're generally referred to and they're broadcasting a religious mindset. The person will then go back believing they had a genuine religious experience. Technically, it's not wrong either, they did either talk with the well known person or someone who looked them.

Other spirits in the vacinity may just show up because they're bored and want someone to talk to, or it may be a spirit guide or soul family member from a past life related to that person. They may then just interpret that being as an angel or whatever is appropriate to their belief.

I wouldn't go as far as to say any religion is wrong, it's just that none are 100% true either from my perspective, or at least whatever spiritual figure they focus on is not the only person that makes up the entirety of existence out there, nor the ultimate authority on everyone/ everything.

I think of religions and belief systems like pieces of a puzzle, put together they will paint the whole picture. So it kind of makes me sad to see people fight so much over them.


"do you get any sense that we incarnate here on earth with a "mission" to complete?"

In a way, that can be said but it would also boil down to the individual's circumstances. Reincarnation can even be for recreational purposes as strange as it may sound, my friend can tell you about that one lol.

Before you incarnate you'll generally map out a basic plan of what you want to achieve and how you want to go about it, whether it's solve your issues, learn something new, help people etc. So they can all be considered "missions". For all I know some souls who incarnate may not even have outlined any plan and just winged their life.

Even so, it's of my own opinion that we decide and make our own purposes and destinies, and these can change all the time as we learn new things or our own ideals and beliefs change. It doesn't have to be left to something that's been pre-determined, but even so that's still a choice left up to the individual.

I think it's very possible that some souls who have incarnated lately have come here with "missions" in the sense of contracts with their originating factions they work for, be it the GFL or others. The other night when we dealt with a commotion down on the astral planes here, all the astral bodies that attended the scene independently were all ETs with Terran bodies. It was a bit of a shock to see but it would make sense given the amount of interest in Earth's affairs from other worlds.

The one thing I'd stress about that though is that it doesn't make them any more special or important than anyone else, I've just noticed a lot of that attitude from people who have remembered those things.

"you described knowing your group of friends from a previous life. were you also astral travelers in your previous lives?"

Possibly. I know two of them were involved with the spiritual and astral planes heavily in a few of their past lives. However they've also remembered much more of their own lives than I have.

I think at best I would have remembered perhaps 1/2 of one life and various scenes from multiple other lives. These things stretch back a few good ten thousands years or so, so it's pretty difficult to remember absolutely everything. I don't think my brain could store that much information realistically.

However the same could be said for other people's past lives, it really just depends on their own circumstances as to whether they may have used it or not. I know that way back in our ancient history this knowledge was very common, and taught to all the children. If anyone had past lives here in those times it's likely they used the astral/ spiritual back then.


Thanks for the questions guys. I really didn't expect anyone to ask any, or that thought the trolls would destroy this thread. sun
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Odd. -testing reply-.

Ok weird, tried to replying with the link to the thread twice but nothing happened, unless both replies went through and I didn't see them.

In that case just goolge "I'm in the US Navy Space Command and have been to Elenin - Ask me a question" or any section of that phrase, that's the title of the original thread. The OP's username was CaptainS. Also a person on another forum called Chani was claiming to be him and posting wild stories under the username Bluecoat2.

The OP stated Bluecoat is not him and Bluecoat's story was purely fictional. The Chani site with the similar title though has a comprehensive list of the Q&A with the OP on the first page.

It seems to screw up when I post links to either sorry.

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Hello there, You know that friend Reikara's mentioned who she's been having all the shared dreams with? Yeah that's me. Don't take my word on it, you can wait for her to confirm it for yourself.

Let me just read up on this topic a bit so I can actually know what's been asked and answered and such.

Apologies in advance, I'm not really the best at talking to people, interrogating yes, friendly chats no. I don't intend on being an aggressive dick here but I do have a pretty abrasive personality and I can't guarantee I won't slip up a bit.

Oh and as a heads up, I have a tendency to twitch rather violently when people start mentioning things like Karmic debt or Karma in general as some sort of absolute law that somehow governs the multiverse despite the massive logical problems with that idea. Still I will TRY not to let it get under my skin.

I'll answer the questions to the best of my ability. If you demand actual, physical proof of what I say, sorry can't do that. Its kinda like if you go hiking, see a bear, then come tell everyone about this bear you really did see.... you've got no way of proving your experience. It's not like we can take a camcorder up to the realms, if we could you'd bet your ass we would.

I also tend to make a lot of typos, hopefully that doesn't somehow invalidate what I'm saying. Some people are very nitpicky about it though and I recognize that.

Anyways, let me just read up for a bit and I'll be back later.
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