TWO WITNESSES--What do They Witness About?

The Word of the Lord came to me (in my despair)
saying:"Son of Man, what is this proverb you have
in the land of Israel, the days go by and all
your visions come to nothing"?

Say to them This is what the Sovereign Lord says:
I am going to put an end to this proverb and they
will no longer quote it in Israel. Say to them
"the days are near when EVERY Vision will be
fulfilled ...for there will be NO More
FALSE Visions or flattering divinations
among the people of Israel, But I the Lord
WILL speake what I WILL, and It shall
be fulfilled without DELay, for in your days,
you rebellious hourse, I will fulfill whatever I say,
declares the Sovereign Lord, None of my
Words will be Delayed Any
Longer; I will fulfill whatever I say.Amenra
(ezeikEL 12:21-28KJV)

By Saint Beda in the 8th Century - "Now if it will please you likewise to hear the mystical reason in this matter, we are commanded to keep Easter in the first month of the year, which is also called the month of the new fruit, because we are to celebrate the mysteries of our Lord's resurrection and our deliverance, with our minds renewed to the love of heavenly things. We are commanded to keep it in the third week of the same month, because Christ, who had been promised before the law, and under the law, came with grace, in the third age of the world, to be slain as our passover; and rising from the dead the third day after the offering of his passion, it was his pleasure that this should be called the Lord's day, and that the festival of his resurrection should be yearly celebrated on the same. For we also, in this manner only, can truly celebrate his solemnity, if we take care with him to keep the passover, that is, the passage out of this world to the Father, by faith, hope, and charity. We are commanded to observe the full moon of the paschal month after the vernal equinox, to the end, that the sun may first make the day longer than the night, and then the moon may afford to the world her full orb of light; inasmuch as first the Sun of righteousness, in whose wings is salvation, that is, our Lord Jesus, by the triumph of his resurrection, overcame all the darkness of death, and so ascending into heaven, filled his church, which is often signified by the name of the moon, with the light of inward grace, by sending down his Spirit. Which plan of salvation the prophet had in his mind, when he said,' The sun was exalted, and the moon stood in her order.'

§ 436. "He, therefore, who shall contend that the full paschal moon can happen before the equinox, deviates from the doctrine of the holy Scriptures, in the celebration of the greatest mysteries, and agrees with those who venture to believe that they may be saved without the preventing grace of Christ, and who presume to teach that they might have attained to perfect righteousness, though the true Light had never vanquished the darkness of the world, by dying and rising again.



Thus, after the equinoctial rising of the sun, and after the subsequent full moon of the first month, that is, after the end of the fourteenth day of the same month, all which, according to the law, ought to be observed, we still, by the instruction of the gospel, wait in the third week itself for the Lord's day; and thus, at length, we celebrate our due Easter solemnity, to show that we do not, with the ancients, honour the shaking off of the Egyptian yoke;

but that, with devout faith and affection, we worship the redemption of the whole world; which having been prefigured in the deliverance of God's ancient people, was completed in Christ's resurrection, to make it appear that we rejoice in the sure and certain hope of the day of our own resurrection, which we believe will happen on the same Lord's day.



§ 437. "Now this calculation of Easter, which we show you is to be followed, is contained in a cycle of nineteen years, which began long since, that is, in the very times of the apostles, especially at Rome and in Egypt, as has been said above. But by the industry of Eusebius, who took his surname from the blessed martyr Pamphilius, it was reduced to a plainer system; insomuch that what till then used to be sent about to all the several churches by the patriarch of Alexandria, might, from that time forward, be most easily known by all men, the course of the fourteenth day of the moon being regularly ordered. This paschal calculation, Theophilus, patriarch of Alexandria, composed for the emperor Theodosius, for a hundred years to come. Cyril also, his successor, comprised a series of ninety-five years in five revolutions of nineteen years. After whom, Dionysius Exiguus added as many more, in the same manner, reaching down to our own time. The expiration of these is now drawing near, but there is so great a number of calculators, that even in our churches throughout Britain, there are many who, having committed to memory the ancient rules of the Egyptians, can with great ease carry on those revolutions of the paschal times for any distant number of years, even to five hundred and thirty two years, if they will; after the expiration of which, all that belongs to the succession of the sun and moon, of month and week, returns in the same order as before.



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No offense KT, I enjoy your writings, and they are
VERY informative, but your Smiles remind
me of a Idol Catholic Shrine...now think
about the word Idol, for a car to 'Idol',
it just sits there, sure it has its motor
running, the gas is flowing within the car,
but the CAR ISN't going ANywhere! It has
No Force, because it is IDOL~~~~~~~~And
eventually, if the car 'IDOLs' for over
an hour, more than likely it will just
eventually run out of gas, and DIE.
I believe somewhere it is said, to Saul
when he called a spirit from the Dead~~~
Do Not call up the Dead forsaking the LIving.

behold the 7 thunders given to his end time witness

[link to the-end.com]

they witness mans arrogance and pride.........here is the spokesman of the two witnesses ....now i too will witness your pride and arrogance and refusal to accept Gods truth......
man has not changed in 6000 years..just like they mocked NOAH so shall you mock RON.

No offense taken. Idols clearly inserted for fun because I AM bored.

Who is calling up the dead forsaking the LIving? I AM living rite here and now conversing with the holographic you who speaks in allegories with mainly cut and paste jobs with videos throw in. I enjoy your posts VERY much as well

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That is so true 777!!! A Man who
lives a couple of hours from
me is building a boat
exactly like the boat that
is depicted in art as being
Noah's Ark.....It is literally
so big that it totally
blocks the Neighbors view, not
sure how they feel about that....
He is building it as a symbol
a Sign of the Times, you know.
Who is 'RON'...reminds me of
ROCK (is) ON



Last Edited by Le Palma on 01/31/2012 10:15 PM

The only thing I cut and paste is when
the topic can not be put into better words
than what is already stated, EVERYThINg
I write is Written by me, and yes I do
speake in Parallels and allegories
for teaching purposes which directs the mind
to ThINK ON MORE THAN JUST ONE LEVEl.....
I mean I don't understand you-----on
the He's here thread, you claimed that
you had been accepted into Ordo Draconis,
and everybody congratulated you....then
it was no more than 2 months later, you
are cursing the Order and everything they
stand for....which leads me to believe
that you are confused.

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He is one of the ones your post is about (witness of God) and here is the word given him to give to the world at this end time as god promised .
[link to the-end.com]

Give it a read. the time has come and we are only 115 days away from the second coming. You believe in God ...BUT DO YOU BELIEVE GOD your response to this book will tell that.
this book(GOD USED) changed my life for evermore.

like a tunnel that leads on
into a tunnel of it's own

that leads into a cavern,where
the sun has never shown

like a circle ,in a circle,
like a wheel within a wheel

like a gyroscope revolving;
on a never ending reel.

like a runner who runs on,
in a never ending race.

like a clock who's hands revolve around the moments of it's face.

for the world is just an apple, spinning, silently,
in space.

keys that jingle
in your pocket,
words that jangle
in your head.

why did summer

pass

so

quickly?

was it something that i said?

portraits hang in a hall, ...or the fragments of a song.
half remembered names and faces,

but to whom do they belong?

and when you knew,
that it was over.

were you suddenly aware?
that the sacred night -
had turned into-

the color

of la palmas' hair.

- theme from the thomas crown affair- loosely adapted for your pleasure

oh bright and shining star!

Thanks 777 I will download it,
I suppose every thing is reciprocal~~~
The Master uses the slave, and the slave
in his own way, uses the master.

This is beautiful writing David, Thank you
I will have to go re watch this movie now.

Where did Summer go, and when Can we glory
in the light of her sun kissed star light again?
For now, the moon is the only light I know
it raptures the the cold winter fog
with its luminescent glow.
Walking me through the doors long
closed, you have laid sweetly
at my feet the petals of a rose.

The most high does not need witness to his brilliance nor his creation ....


The two will announce the beast before hand because sureley YHWH does nothing unless he reveal to his prophets before hand.


And YHWH being true to his Word and Torah will not destroy the beast or the false prophet unless this happens:


Deu 17:6 At the mouth of two witnesses, or three witnesses, shall he that is worthy of death be put to death; but at the mouth of one witness he shall not be put to death.
Deu 17:7 The hands of the witnesses shall be first upon him to put him to death, and afterward the hands of all the people. So thou shalt put the evil away from among you.


In revelation 11 it shows that they will be killed by the beast....

It goes down around and about the ark of the covenant.


Rev 11:7 And when they shall have finished their testimony, the beast that ascendeth out of the bottomless pit shall make war against them, and shall overcome them, and kill them.
Rev 11:8 And their dead bodies shall lie in the street of the great city, which spiritually is called Sodom and Egypt, where also our Lord was crucified.

When you hear them prophesying against the beast, will you know that they are the true messenger of the Most High.

I KNOW exactly why I AM here and what I AM to do. But yes, I AM a bit confused on ONE thing and that is who my true brothers on low are for I AM looking for some fraternal guidance is all. There is no confusion to who I AM and where I come from or my work to do in this life on the great plan for I KNOW my purpose and why I AM here.

In order to get into the Ordo Draconis, a DNA test was required. I did the test and found out that the Ordo Draconis and their members are NOT true dragons or Gnostics but a faux organization that is a disgrace to my true heritage and my ancestors. The true dragons who come from Atlantis, Egypt, Israel, Ireland, Scotland, England, Britain, France, Canada and all over the world for we are the Levites and Druids ordained in this age to carry out the priestly duties and JUDGING. The only tribe meant to be free and not to be counted or measured.

I am related to Moses, Abraham, Pythagoras, Constantine, Bede, Hitler, Napoleon and the list can go on and on. That of the Templars. It is MY blood line and DNA that you are all speaking of when people such as Mikey make photo shop collages.

Let me ask you this Le Palma, "Can you speak or debate normally without all the BS allegories and videos in an intelligent matter for anyone to understand by expressing yourself in your own English words?" If you can (I AM not sure), let's have a debate about what this thread is about and what this 6th age of world is about in clear and concise words where everyone can understand. That way we can all see who knows WTF they are talking about and who doesn't know WTF they are talking about or who is ThINKling ON MORE THAN JUST ONE LEVEl.

Care to have a human conversation and or debate on the two witnesses or the ONE Le Palma?

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By the way Le Palma, why do you claim the Latin motto, NEMO ME IMPUNE LACESSIT for the Order of the Thistle?

Are you a member? That was one of the ONLY reasons I bothered even posting on any of your threads for I thought you may have been kin. If not, my bad and I will happily move on to more brotherly productive activities.

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and a propeht of god would use such language right. maybe the god of this worlds prophet.. not GOD ALMIGHTY

That branch of Ordo Draconis do claim to be
descended from the Egyptian Kings, the
High Kings of Ireland, and the Kings
of Wales, so how can you say that they
are Illegitimate? The Duchy of Drakenburg
also associated with the Asian lineage
Royal Ashina Dynasty---The Dragon Family
of Asia.

My Ancestors claimed
to The Most Ancient and Noble
Order of the Thistle
Before its (theft) re-institution
by King James II of England and its
current Order under the Present British
Monarchy, where there is much
discrepancy as to whether that
Particular branch of 'Windsor' even
has a claim to the Throne being
descendants of the Germanic House
of Saxe-Coburg-Gotha, (which by the way
That DNA is written all over their
faces, their skin Palor, and affinity
for certain disease that only affects
that bloodline because of its
'intermingling'),
The true Heirs of the Throne of England
and thus the Davidic Kingdom most
agree are descended from the
House of Stuart, from King
Robert II of Scotland, Who
was descended from King David I
King of Scots, named after his
ancestor King David of Israel.


Before that, My ancestors
claimed the Secret Society of Tamar,
of which few only know of its
existence, it is named
after the first born child
of Mary and
Yeshua, Sara-Tamar, and
its origins can be traced back
2,000 years. The Knights Templar
and the Prieuré de Sion were connected
with the Tamars, they had their own
language of communication, their
own currency in Gold, and Are
suspected of Retaining the Secrets
of the Ark,of which the key
is contained
within the Bloodline
and the
DNA.

Following into the times of the
Magna Carta in 1215, which
still remains on the statute
books of England and Wales,
at least 6 of my direct Ancestors
on the Maternal side have
written upon it their Signature
as Surety.....
Following that, into the late
1600's, several branches of my family
were forced (or tricked)
to emigrate to the
United States because of Religious
persecution, and confiscation of
Assets by the Crown and the Church,
STill in their possession or the
possession of the Crown's Lords today.
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I'm not really sure KT what it is that
you would like to debate in plain English.
WE are all connected in some way or another,
and what goes around comes back around
as according to the consistent and True
law of the Universe--reciprocity.
See the truth about America is that
the founders Hand was Forced, and
their associates Tricked to form
the United States of America, it
has always, and will always retain
its Allegiance to the British Crown
whether people want to admit that
or it or not. All of our Wars
have been engineered to Retain
and Grow their Power. We are their
Warhorse, and the Whip Remains
even but for a short time,
in their hands. Sure, whatever
you wanna debate, I'll try to
only speake in simple terms.



Last Edited by Le Palma on 02/01/2012 09:18 PM

Who gives a flying flip about what you
term the One anyways.....certainly
Not Me, and No one else that I see, except
to prompt False Imaginings and tickle
their fancy's with visions of gods.
This is about
What has happened to ALL OF US
and our Ancestors, whose
blood still flows in our veins today.
Most people don't
care about their ancestors, and what
has happened in the span of time,
but I do, and the Governments
Monarchy, and Powers
care as well or else they wouldn't
Shove the issue in our Face
when push comes to shove.

Last Edited by Le Palma on 02/01/2012 09:25 PM

I wrote a little something for the Kids and the G's
Whose lives hang by a thread, in perilous days as these...
as deck of cards flys from the hands of the Dealer----so too
my Words come from A Soul of feeling

I Am the Fatherless, the Distressed and Torn
I AM the Scarred woman, beaten and scorned
I AM the Orphan Crying out for food
I AM the Barren in a World of Desolate Womb
I AM the Prisoner To Whom no comfort Was given
My Terra and Despair, I bravely kept hidden
I am in this Society Oppressed in Every Way
Poisoned by enemies ---shall you look to see the
Effects upon my face?

And if these facts you find hard to believe
The Proof presents Broadly
the Sign and Seal upon my body

In such a state it was that I was found
And the Force of the living God
Made my BEing To Abound------
With Wisdom and Nurture causing me to Prevail
and Endurance and Fortitude, these do not Fail

I now cast my spelling on this Day
And SEEK the morrow when Sorrow shall DEcay
My Eye is Meek but for all it sees
A dAy for Reckoning of all I speake--= NE Palm

A Day of Reckoning Le Palma?

Well,Hilos I don't really understand
what KT is so upset at me about.
The only thing I can guess is
that he is mad because I told
him not to post the same
pictures of idols that we have
seen a million times on forum
over and over again on this thread.

He claims to be fighting for
some wannabe brotherhood, and
from the symbols he posts
and and the pictures, it appears
to me that he is associated
(or wants to be associated
with) some illuminati group
that is associated with the
CAtholic Church,posting
Knight of the Garter
and other military honor
Orders as if they are his own
which could be termed as
Treason against the Order
according to their laws
just so you know.

And also I read on the
Sedona Arizona Thread
that he might actually
be Mark Pinkham, or associated
with Mark, or Charles who is
also associated with Mark. Who
knows, I know people reading
don't know who these people
are, but I know exactly who
they are and what they are
about, and I know all about
the little war that has erupted
over all this within the
Orders and their subjugates
.
They are all trying
to Get a piece of the PIE.


Last Edited by Le Palma on 02/01/2012 10:36 PM

Oh, I could see how that might upset you, most the stuff you post seems pretty original with credit to sources of inspiration with the acknowledgement of some secrecy.

I love talented guitar players and musicians.
I haven't heard that song before, thanks
for posting AC.

when the white eagle of the north
is flying overhead

and the browns, reds, and golds , of autumn.
lie in the gutter.......dead

remember then the gulls of summer,
carried on wings of fire

come to witness spring's new hope,
born of leaves decayed.

as new life-

will spring from death-

love arrives-

at her leisure.

love of love
love of life
love of living, and giving....


without measure-

gives in return the wondrous yearning, for truth, almost seen.

take
my
hand

and forever we'll stand


on the threshold.... of a dream....


- a poem that serves as an intro to the song "have you heard" by the moody blues-

i submit this to you
my courageous little one
in the fondest hope
that it may inspire you as it has me

What a breath of fresh air to read
writing like this, that was nice

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