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TT MICHAEL TT User ID: 10430217  United States02/09/2012 03:20 AM  Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I could tell you what the two witnesses are....if you really wanna know Quoting: TT MICHAEL TT I just won't tell who they are  I'm very curious to know what you think! Did you see my post above about the DNA pillar of fire? I'm sure you have Heard of Jahovas witnesses... well this is also refering to Hovas 2 witnesses. They are the two people who have gone through this with me this year. One person more than the other but they still both played a very important part in this. There are more than two witnesses that know around me but these are the two closest people. :BUDD HA: Last Edited by TT JeSuS H CHriST TT on 02/09/2012 03:20 AM |
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| TT MICHAEL TT User ID: 10430217 United States02/09/2012 04:09 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I believe there are more than Two also~~~~ Quoting: Le Palma Go TWO BY TWO it says~~~~then Multiplicity, What began as TWO Become A MULTITUDE...Thanks Scott Any time  Last Edited by TT JeSuS H CHriST TT on 02/09/2012 04:09 AM |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 788508  Spain02/09/2012 05:01 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Most bible scholars and church pastors, and Christians assume that the two witnesses must be witnessing about Quoting: Le Palma Accepting Jesus as your saviour ("getting saved"), repentance, and the vengence of God for not accepting his Son as a saviour. But, does the bible Really Say That? In Rev. Ch. 11, The Two Witnesses are called "The Two Olive trees and the two Lampstands" THAT STAND BEFORE THE LORD OF THE EARTH" The story of the witnesses is set up in the previous chapter, Chapter 10:11-- Then I was told, "You must prophesy against many peoples, nations, languages and kings." - Presently, Christianity is the most prevalent religion on Earth. According to this website [link to www.adherents.com] it comprises 33% of all the people affiliated with religion. During the Crusades, and the middle ages in Europe, (1095-1291) People were forced to accept Christianity at the Edge of a sword or DIE. Over 3 Million people were slaughtered because they did not accept christianity. [link to necrometrics.com] John Robertson, A short History of Christianity estimates the death totals are more likely 9 Million people slaughtered because they would not accept a religion they didn't know. Practically everyone alive today has at least 1 ancestor that were murdered, had property stolen, tortured, beheaded, or forced to accept religion of the Catholic Church. Even the smallest estimation of death equals more people murdered than any genocide that has happened in the modern world. This history remains unwritten in school history books, it is not spoken of, and by ignoring it, we do a great diservice to ourselves and our and our ancestors, and our children, and so the cycle continues. No where in revelation ch. 11 does it say that the two wittnesses are telling people "You better get saved, exept Jesus as your saviour now or you will burn in hell, you wicked sinners, alchoholics and theives and drug addicts". As we approach the "end of the age", I believe that it will be a time of Judgement for sure, however "sinners" are not the Big problem in this world. The big problem is Tyranny, Domination, Coercion, cruelty, terrorism, totalitarianism, monocracies, and oligarchies, Oppression, intimidation, and menace. " You must prophesy against many peoples, nations, languages and kings." Every power is given by the Creator.......... Could the two witness be speaking against Big World Religions and Governments who wage endless wars in the name of peace, harmony, and good will?????? The bible certainly does NOT say that they will be standing up for one big world religion, in fact, it says they will be speaking against the nations and kings. “Question everything. Every stripe, every star, every word spoken. Everything.”(Gains) “Who so neglects learning in his youth loses the past and is dead to the future.'” (Euripides) The number of THE PEOPLE are greater than those in power!!!!!!! In short, the two witnesses (the Olive tree and the Lampstand) are the gentile Church and the Jewish-Christian Church. They witness, they prophesy, they spread the glory of the gospel during the Tribulation. This is why there is a debate about the rapture, it is unclear whether there will be one based on Revelation 11. soo, your saying that the jewish and christian churches have the power to cause plagues, shut the heavens so it doesnt rain, able to devour their enemies with fire that flows out of their mouths..? and finally a great earthquake after they ascend to heaven?...dont think so. |
| Le Palma (OP) User ID: 10333294 United States02/09/2012 05:12 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | soo, your saying that the jewish and christian churches have the power to Quoting: Anonymous Coward 788508 cause plagues, shut the heavens so it doesnt rain, able to devour their enemies with fire that flows out of their mouths..? and finally a great earthquake after they ascend to heaven?...dont think so. You appear have confused my words, I did not say Jewish and Christian Churches have the power to do Those Things. Last Edited by Le Palma on 02/09/2012 05:42 AM All are Nails For the One who holds the Hammer :Lamens 741: |
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| Le Palma (OP) User ID: 10586386 United States02/11/2012 07:49 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | James's Old German half & half Black and Tan's--my favorite  Personal AD Quoting: Le Palma ********Desperately seeking Virgins****** Open minded Paladin seeking 72 virgins to replace the other 72 virgins who succomb to ADAMEVE.com and good vibrations. Must be versed in the art of of Micro-brewing and growing hydroponic cannabis, & Fuckshia gardens, glass blowing, and Harpsichord playing. Double jointedness is a plus,and the ability to hold non -sirius conversations with non- serious people about nothing and nobody. Previous experience with genetic replication and engineering is Mandatory. C U in Heaven. +1  Last Edited by Le Palma on 02/12/2012 03:09 AM All are Nails For the One who holds the Hammer :Lamens 741: |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 10590492 United States02/11/2012 08:29 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Maybe they, through their prophetic emphasis, will bring about many to Christ. I thought somewhere in Rev. it states they seal the 144,000 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1450086 The 144,000 ARE the two witnesses... These are (Adam and Eve) the two olive trees, and the two candlesticks standing before the God of the earth (the Holy Spirit abides). Revelation 11: 4 "I will give power unto my two witnesses (Adam and Eve)and they shall prophesy . . .reveal the strong will of the Holy Spirit of God (male and female halves of God) while they are in the wilderness. Pregnant Virgo clothed in sackcloth (clothed in chastity, repentance and penitence). Womb-Holy Grail. Carrying Adam the King in her womb. Adam and Eve will hear a great voice from Heaven. "Come up hither." And they will ascend to Heaven where they will consummate their marriage and be crowned King and Queen/Father and Mother of the coming new Earth. (The 144,000 chosen will be filled with the Holy Spirit, will choose to become martyrs for God, and will be ressurected as Holy Angels in Paradise.)  |
| Le Palma (OP) User ID: 10586386 United States02/11/2012 08:47 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Yes it is Bullshit, everyone is so worried about ThE CHILD, and the MAN, BUT people seem to be neglecting in their Equations The WOMAN...not to mention that the Child she may be birthing is not really a Child in the sense that we understand the concept. It does not do well for a person to neglect consideration of a Woman in AnY equation, nor a dragon, if either has once set its eyes upon you. All are Nails For the One who holds the Hammer :Lamens 741: |
| Le Palma (OP) User ID: 10586386 United States02/11/2012 10:26 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Especially when in addition to Maternal lineage is also the Paternally descended grandaughter of the creator of Temple Lot, which is the Site designated by Joseph Smith for the Temple of the New Jerusalem, a city that is built in preparation of the Second coming of Christ, Independence Missouri. "Members of the church have been known colloquially as "Hedrickites", after Granville Hedrick, who was ordained as the church's first leader in July 1863. Unlike The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints and Community of Christ, the Temple Lot church rejects the office of prophet or president, being led by its Quorum of Twelve Apostles instead. It equally rejects the doctrines of Baptism for the Dead and Eternal Marriage promulgated by the Utah LDS church (Polygamy), as well as the Doctrine and Covenants and Pearl of Great Price. While once avidly engaged in dialogue with other Latter Day Saint factions, the church no longer has any official contact with any other organization. Its most notable claim to fame today rests in its sole ownership of the Temple Lot, which it has held for nearly 150 years. Current membership is about 2400, with members in 11 or 12 countries." [link to en.wikipedia.org] Granville Headrick and the founding Quorum of the Twelve Apostles is known yet disputed by present day Polygamist child molesters as the True Herald of the Latter Day Saints [link to www.centerplace.org] *************************************************** Sunday February 12 2012, 03:06:10 UTC Utah 3.3 0.9 10:06est Sunday February 12 2012, 03:06:10 UTC Utah 3.3 0.9 10:06est Sunday February 12 2012, 04:19:00 UTC Utah 3.6 0.3 11:19est [link to quakes.globalincidentmap.com] Saturday February 11 2012, 15:23:07 UTC 12 hours ago Solomon Islands 5.2 39.3   Last Edited by Le Palma on 02/11/2012 11:57 PM All are Nails For the One who holds the Hammer :Lamens 741: |
| Le Palma (OP) User ID: 10586386 United States02/11/2012 11:05 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | THe current World Headquarters is located in Salt Lake City, Utah, within Such a 40, 000square meter Temple Spectacle. "The First Presidency of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints (Mormon) announced that Elder Richard J. Maynes of the Quorum of the Seventy has been called to serve in the Presidency of the Seventy. Elder Maynes will fill the vacancy created by Elder Steven E. Snow, who is now the Church Historian. In this new calling, Elder Maynes will assist his fellow members of the Presidency of the Seventy in testifying of Jesus Christ and helping supervise priesthood leadership throughout the United States and Canada." [link to www.mormonnewsroom.org] God Help Me, it was Chicago Gangsters, now it Mormons!!!  George Harrison ''Got My Mind Set On You'' Album:Cloud Nine Year:1987 Last Edited by Le Palma on 02/11/2012 11:06 PM All are Nails For the One who holds the Hammer :Lamens 741: |
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| Le Palma (OP) User ID: 10586386 United States02/12/2012 12:00 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | the earth speakes, I reply.... I call my name out to you tonight I hear your response in quaking tremors from the sky you do make yourself heard above all I praise and resound your glory in empty, barren halls... But others do not give you praise at all..... to the others who did not listen before, best to praise her too before a knocking at deaths door consumes. :waxfullwanhorns: Last Edited by Le Palma on 02/12/2012 12:12 AM All are Nails For the One who holds the Hammer :Lamens 741: |
| Le Palma (OP) User ID: 10586386 United States02/12/2012 12:35 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Especially when in addition to Maternal Quoting: Le Palma lineage is also the Paternally descended grandaughter of the creator of Temple Lot, which is the Site designated by Joseph Smith for the Temple of the New Jerusalem, a city that is built in preparation of the Second coming of Christ, Independence Missouri. "Members of the church have been known colloquially as "Hedrickites", after Granville Hedrick, who was ordained as the church's first leader in July 1863. Unlike The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints and Community of Christ, the Temple Lot church rejects the office of prophet or president, being led by its Quorum of Twelve Apostles instead. It equally rejects the doctrines of Baptism for the Dead and Eternal Marriage promulgated by the Utah LDS church (Polygamy), as well as the Doctrine and Covenants and Pearl of Great Price. While once avidly engaged in dialogue with other Latter Day Saint factions, the church no longer has any official contact with any other organization. Its most notable claim to fame today rests in its sole ownership of the Temple Lot, which it has held for nearly 150 years. Current membership is about 2400, with members in 11 or 12 countries." [link to en.wikipedia.org] Granville Headrick and the founding Quorum of the Twelve Apostles is known yet disputed by present day Polygamist child molesters as the True Herald of the Latter Day Saints [link to www.centerplace.org] *************************************************** Sunday February 12 2012, 03:06:10 UTC Utah 3.3 0.9 10:06est Sunday February 12 2012, 03:06:10 UTC Utah 3.3 0.9 10:06est Sunday February 12 2012, 04:19:00 UTC Utah 3.6 0.3 11:19est [link to quakes.globalincidentmap.com] Saturday February 11 2012, 15:23:07 UTC 12 hours ago Solomon Islands 5.2 39.3 oh, what a 'coincidence'  that these earthquakesare happening while I'm writing this After Smith's assassination in June 1844, a number of Latter Day Saint leaders, including Brigham Young, Sidney Rigdon, and James Strang, claimed to be Smith's rightful successor as leader of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints, which Smith had founded in 1830 as the Church of Christ. Each leadership candidate established rival organizations, each claiming to be the true successor of the church. Sometime after Smith's death, Hedrick was re-baptized into the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints by William O. Clark. Accordingly, in 1867-68, Hedrick and his congregation sold their farms and moved to Independence as instructed. In addition to buying land for themselves, John Hedrick and William Eaton purchased, between 1867 and 1874, an additional eight lots (2.5 acres) comprising the immediate site of the land that had been dedicated earlier. In November 1869 and November 1877 respectively, they conveyed their property to Granville Hedrick as “trustee in trust” for the Church of Christ. The Kansas City Times announced that, from what they were told, work would soon begin on the construction of a temple. Last Edited by Le Palma on 02/12/2012 03:06 AM All are Nails For the One who holds the Hammer :Lamens 741: |
| Le Palma (OP) User ID: 10586386 United States02/12/2012 12:49 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Our Pioneer Heritage Volume 5 Denominations That Base Their Beliefs On the Teachings of Joseph Smith Hedrickites-Church of Christ-Temple Lot A Tribute During the year of 1863 Mr. Hedrick was named the true successor of Joseph Smith. A perfect organization was set up; the church to be known as The Church of Christ. A meeting was held at the home of William Eaton, at which time John E. Page, David Judy, Jedediah Owen, Adna C. Haldeman, Zebulon Adams, James Bradley, Jr., and Mr. Eaton sustained Granville Hedrick as the first president of the church to preside over the high priesthood and to be prophet, seer, revelator and translator to the Church of Christ. Hedrick was ordained under the hands of John E. Page, an apostle under Joseph Smith. They declared their faith in the Bible, Book of Mormon, as well as in the 1833 Book of Commandments. In addition this group also took the stand against polygamy, the doctrine of lineal succession to the presidency, and tithing as a tenth. "the following of Hedrick was commanded to assemble in the year 1867, in order to escape certain "judgments" that were to overtake the United States, beginning in 1871 and culminating in the loss of liberty and the destruction of the nation by 1878; (Which did happen by the way with promotion of the civil war, then the United States Gold Reserve Act of January 30, 1934 which actually was approved on MARCH 14 1900) while those who would assemble in the land of Zion under the aforesaid injunction would "grow into a peaceable multitude," and become a mighty people under the protection of the Lord. In accordance with the injunction to this faction, Mr. Hedrick and his people settled in Jackson County, and have remained there ever since Last Edited by Le Palma on 02/12/2012 12:51 AM All are Nails For the One who holds the Hammer :Lamens 741: |
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| Le Palma (OP) User ID: 10586386 United States02/12/2012 01:00 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | EATON WATER ESTATE,Latton Manor, and Inglesham Manor once covered thousands of Acres of land on the Banks of the THAMES River, which is also connected to the Tamar River which flows to PLYMOUTH BAY---the same river that that Elizabeth II will be sailing down in June to celebrate her 60 years of whatever, formerly owned by by JOHN PRATHER (dePRIERS/dePresbyter) and Family from whom is descended Thomas Prather of Elizabeth City, Virginia 1622~~~ whose sons are founding Members of the Presbyterian Churchs in the Southern States(and from WHOM the Name Presbyterian is derived) Last Edited by Le Palma on 02/12/2012 01:12 AM All are Nails For the One who holds the Hammer :Lamens 741: |
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| Le Palma (OP) User ID: 10586386 United States02/12/2012 01:18 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation |  To him the porter opens and the SHEEP hear his voice: and he calls his own sheep by Name, and leads them out. And when he puts forth his own SHEEP, he goes before them, and the SHEEP follow him: for they know his voice. And a stranger will they not follow, but will flee from him: for they know not the voice of STRANGERS. This parable spake Yeshua unto them: but they understood it NOT.... Then said Yeshua unto them again, Verily Verily, I say unto you, I am the Door of the SHEEP. (John ch. 10) The Sheep and the Goats or "The Judgment of the Nations" Come, blessed of my Father, inherit the Kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world; For I was Hungry, and you gave me food to Eat, I was thirsty, and you gave me drink, I was a stranger, and you took me in, I was naked and you clothed me. I was sick, and you visited me. I was in Prison, and you came to me. (Matt.ch.25) Last Edited by Le Palma on 02/12/2012 10:57 AM All are Nails For the One who holds the Hammer :Lamens 741: |
| Le Palma (OP) User ID: 10586386 United States02/12/2012 11:04 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | We all have a lot of ideas about who the Quoting: Le Palma two witnesses are and what they might witness about...What if the TWO Encompass all of the things that have been mentioned? Two Circles of Life coming together from different time and space meeting at the CROSSing point,  forming an AGREEMENT,in ONE cordia. When Two circles come together it forms a pyramid...the word "PYRA" means 'Fire' + 'PILLAR'... When the Two come together in Agreement, their Energy becomes A Pillar of Fire  Moved by Word and Voice Reaching to the HeAVEns That is kind of cool so you are saying they are the ark of the new covenant? Maybe they are....an ARC is a circle, an ARC forms a HALO in the sky at 120 degrees perihelion by reflections off of HEXAGONAL ice crystals. (DNA,Hexagonal storm on Saturn) :Dna hexagon:  Also a Bow ARc is formed in the sky as a Rain Bow by reflections of water droplets--- Noahwhose family was rescued from destruction in a Boat (Argonaut) Was given as a sign the Rainbow Arc as covenant between God, Noah, and his people that never again would all of life on earth be annihilated by Flood, and that if the crossing point was ever reached again, that God would Perpetuate and Sustain Human life in the Blood of a REMNANT ...the Word ARK also Means "A CONTAINER", where within the blood is also anRNA Protein called ARC,a nameof an immediate early gene, also called Arg3.1 (Argonauts,boat) Arg 3.1 is one of the oldest genes which plays the role in learning and memory-related processes (GENETIC ENCODED MEMORY)  (I know I throw a lot out here, but all of this connects together and I really don't know of another way To Show you how it connects with out writing it out) [link to en.wikipedia.org] Arg3.1 Arc Protein [link to en.wikipedia.org] ARC All are Nails For the One who holds the Hammer :Lamens 741: |
| Le Palma (OP) User ID: 10688426 United States02/13/2012 06:47 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | good point SS about Plasma~~~~ Quoting: Le Palma Plasma--palmas--Psalms The Psalms were communicated on leafs of palm, when one speaks or reads the psalms, or any other 'charged' literature (which are composed geometrically in number)the air around them is Heated and ionized with Charged Particles.... Charged carriers are electrically conductive and respond strongly to electromagnetic fields. Tears especially since they contain so much Salt communicate kinetically with magnetosphere, and Kinetic energy is greatest 'at the bottom' so tospeake. If all Stars are composed of Plasma, and we are able to create plasma by Charging the particles in the Air around us, then what does that say in terms of our communication with Universe? Last Edited by Le Palma on 02/13/2012 06:57 AM All are Nails For the One who holds the Hammer :Lamens 741: |
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| david User ID: 1404180 United States02/15/2012 08:11 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | when the night has been too lonely- and the road has been too long; and you think that love is only for the lucky, and the strong... just remember, in the winter, far beneath- the chilling snow lies the seed- that with the sun's love, in the spring, becomes ...the rose! -theme from the movie, the rose- happy valentine's day, le palma |
| Le Palma (OP) User ID: 10839646 United States02/15/2012 08:20 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | when the night has been too lonely- Quoting: david 1404180 and the road has been too long; and you think that love is only for the lucky, and the strong... just remember, in the winter, far beneath- the chilling snow lies the seed- that with the sun's love, in the spring, becomes ...the rose! -theme from the movie, the rose- happy valentine's day, le palma David, your words and poetry are always so uplifting for me, Thank you Last Edited by Le Palma on 02/15/2012 08:21 AM All are Nails For the One who holds the Hammer :Lamens 741: |
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