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TWO WITNESSES--What do They Witness About?

 
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"And they descended on ARDIS, which is the summit of Mount HERMON; and they called it Mount Hermon, because they had sworn on it and bound themselves mutually by a curse" (Enoch 6:1-6). Because of this
Mount Hermon became known as the "Mountain of the Oath".
It is also known as "Mountain of the Chief".


Mount HERMON located at 441 NEWBURG Rd.,
by Swan
Rd, Hinkley rd, Smith Lane, Hermon Maine
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NEWMAGE-The People of the Covenant


"Despite the carefully listed genealogies of his time, the heritage of Meroveus was strangely obscured in the monastic annals. Although the rightful son of Clodion, he was nonetheless said by the historian Priscus to have been sired by an arcane sea creature, the Bistea Neptunis... The Sicambrian Franks, from whose female line the Merovingians emerged were associated with Grecian Arcadia before migrating to the Rhineland. As we have seen, they called themselves the Newmage — 'People of the New Covenant', just as the Essenes of Qumran had once been known. It was the Arcadian legacy that was responsible for the mysterious sea beast — the Bistea Neptunis — as symbolically defined in the Merovingian ancestry. relevant sea-lord was King Pallas, a god of old Arcadia... The immortal sea-lord was said to be 'ever-incarnate in a dynasty of ancient kings' whose The symbol was a fish - as was the traditional symbol of Jesus." (29:166,175)
From the False Gospel in the Stars

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bangor
'Et in Arcadia ego'
"Even in Arcadia there am I"
Les Bergers d’Arcadie
Arcadia-a rich unspoiled wilderness,
a Utopia, mythologicaldomain of PAN,
the phrase was mentioned in Holy Blood,
Holy Grail and the novel The Da Vinci Code
as an anagram of I! Tego Arcana Dei
"Begone! I know the secrets of God"


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I've come to understand the 2 witnesses are the Old Testament and New Testament of the bible! After rapture, they do away completely with the word of god and aim for a "united" religion of false mixture (remembet gid tajes his spirit when he raptures us and closes the door! Anyone who doesn't turn their back on this will have to be beheaded (in "new religion" their spirit world, the soul still lives unless the head is missing) or take the mark of the beast ... To anyone still reading: a few years on earth isnt worth the eternity in hell! Once you see this type of evil on earth you have to believe there is a god! Believe god sent his son to die on the cross for you accept him as you savior, ask to be forgiven of your sins and close your eyes! :) you can thank me later in heaven :() p.s. or you could as him in your heart now and avoid all that drama! I walk in faith :)
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yes the dual witness for those who require them are the OT and NT .....these die and come alive in The Revelation just prior to one stepping from the books in which they seek to find themselves ......

then it becomes important that the greater dual witness does not overtake the watcher as all that proceeds before the eyes in all existence and in all books do not distract the walk of life ......

the walkers in life walk from the light from within the temple proceeding out thru the eye which is single ...out thru the crystal walls of the temple ........as the walker upon the crystal see as glass joins one with one with one ....in the creation of the all thru the being of LOVE
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TAMESIS:The Dark Flow
Tamesis is the hypothetical goddess of the THAMES River
in the UK, and is etymologically related to the name
of the flood plain god TEMAVUS of Italy.

Tamesis means the 'Dark Flow'. The dark flow being the waters that would burst the banks of the Thames in winter to inundate the flood plains beyond.

The Thames is an ancient river whose name derives from
the Celtic words TAM meaning 'wide-spreading inundation',and ISA meaning 'the waters'.


Peter Ackroyd suggests, the name could possibly be far older possibly originating in the Sanskrit language. In Sanskrit, the word TAMASA means DARK , in the sense of holy or sacred. Other rivers in the world also carry derivation of the name including the Tamasa, which is a tributary of the Ganges, the TEMES in Hungary, the TAMESE in Italy and also the TAMAR in the UK.

The ISIS is the name given to the part of the River Thames above Iffley Loc which flows through the city of Oxford, England. Current ordinance survey maps still label the Thames as the "River Thames or ISIS".

The 14th century monk, Ranulphus Higden, described the river as being a combination of two tributaries, Thama and Ysa. Although this was probably just a version of the Celtic words mentioned earlier, historian John Leland in his Itinerary (1546) translated Ysa as Isis.
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in no way shape or form does 'two witnesses' mean two individual people....
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Her name given at birth would astound this entire forum as it corresponds exactly first middle and surname to an elaborate Architectural Structure of significant controversy. This may have been another way she has been distinguished as to who she is.


The Eden of Genesis has been variously located at the headwaters of the Tigris and Euphrates in northern Iraq, in Africa, and in the Persian Gulf. However in Ezekiel, the book which also mentions Hazezon Tamar-the ancient name of Ein Gedi and the rebuilt temple
(constructed temple with Palm tree engravings on the Walls), the Garden of Eden Where the TREE OF LIFE
was also located was indeed located in the areas of Lebanon, and the enumerated district of Judea and Samaria.
 Quoting: Le Palma



"Ketem in hebrew signifies the beginning of time and the beginning in eden. Ketem was the formation of a circle of time which was figured by the seven stars revolving in the north about the pole of heaven.

In various mythologies and forms of the mythos the birth-place of creation is in the north. It was so in India as in Egypt. There stood the Mount of MERU as the typical center of the starry revolution. In an Akkadian hymn to Ishtar the goddess is addressed as the Queen of the Mountain of the World and the Queen of the Land of the Four Rivers of Erech, that is as the goddess of the mythical mount of the pole and the four rivers of the four quarters which arose in Paradise.

Language in inner Africa will tell us where the birthplace in heaven as well as Adam and Eve was first named.
In Egyptian are the names of heaven as Gopa in Mano, and Gbate in Sarar, Keputin balu.

TAMERI or TAMARA is the name of Egypt and in Udso it is the name of heaven. The name of ZULU signifies heaven also."


Ta
is to drop,heap,deposit;
meri is the inundation
Tameri is land thus deposited.
The vulgar English to'ta' is a child's word,
and it means to deposit soil; also
Ta-meri reads the 'gift of the inundation'
(a forgotten reference for menses)

the gift of the goddess Meri who has a dual
form as Meri-Res (South) and Meri-Mehi (North).
Egypt is also designated the Land of the Eye[6].
The eye of the cow shedding an emblematic tear
was a type of ta-ing"

Gerald Massey
The Natural Genesis
A book of Beginnings
Vol II
 Quoting: Le Palma


Our interjectional "marry" derives from an Egyptian
term MERI, also a name for heaven. Meri come up, would be thus an appeal in Heaven's name. 'Meri Kip' is heaven keep or receive or clasp us. Marry-come-up and marry-go-down are allied to the Merry-go-Round and the Merry-dancers of the Northern -lights which dance in the Heavens. A see-saw is a Merry-Totter it goes up and down. And This is the Up-and-down and around Image called MERI. With the prefix TA it is TAMERI, the DOUBLE LAND of Egypt, upper and lower, or if applied to MERI, the Heavens, Meri-come- up and Meri- go- down and round and round in her little boat.
Book of Beginnings
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TA is 'to CRoss';
TA-t is the Cross Sign of Crossed.

TI is 'two'
Ti-t (tat) crossed, tied, twoed,twined.

Tna is to separate;
Tna-t is separated.


In the genders, the feminine is formed by adding a T. The Egyptian explains the English.

The hieroglyphic t as ti, is a sign of reduplication and not merely the determinative of the secondary condition, a sort of figure of two which shows that beauty, ability, bounty, majesty are the reduplication of beau, able, boun, majes, not merely the secondary, but the doubled form, out of which comes the plural TI (Eg.) and TY in English, (TI'amat, and Tyatira).
The hieroglyphic t in ti indicates that the conditions are one of two in Ta and Tat, are not limited to the present.

Gerald Massey
Book of Beginnings

The King of Babylon is likened to the Morning Star in Isaiah’s prophecy of his downfall (Isaiah 14) and Jesus is called the bright Morning Star in Revelation 22:16. The overcomers in Tyatira are promised the Morning Star in Revelation 2:28, and 2 Peter 1:19 looks forward to a day when the Morning Star will arise in our hearts.

To the who overcomes and does my will to the end, I will give authority over the nations--
You will rule them with an iron scepter; you will dash them to pieces like pottery'--just as I have received authority from my Father. Rev 2:26-28)

According to Stephanus of Byzantium, the city TYATIRA was called "thuateira" from Greek (thugater, thugatera),
meaning "daughter".

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They witness about ?

To be clean on the inside and outside to overcome.

"Wisdom has builded her house, she has hewn out her seven pillars:
She has killed her beasts; she has mingled her wine; she has also furnished her table.
She has sent forth her maidens: she cries upon the highest places of the city,
Whoso is simple, let him turn in hither: as for him that wants understanding, she says to him,
Come, eat of my bread, and drink of the wine which I have mingled.
Forsake the foolish, and LIVE; and go in the way of understanding." Proverbs 9:1-6
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The Holy Spirit says of all the saints, that they were enemies of the stained robe of the flesh (Jude 23).
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merry christmas Le Palma hf ;)
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Maybe they, through their prophetic emphasis, will bring about many to Christ. I thought somewhere in Rev. it states they seal the 144,000
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The 144000 do not seal anyone,that is not their purpose.................sheep

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The purpose of witnessing is to bring people to repentance and to Christ. So they preach repentance and the Lord's return so that some may be saved--- those who are not too stubborn to believe. The only thing that motivated Jesus to come down into this world and suffer was our salvation. The prophets' motivation in the preaching and persecution they received was for the salvation of souls. The apostles and early Christians' motivation was for the salvation of souls... that is the main purpose Jesus saves us for---to glorify Him and to bring others to Him. I can't think of any reason I would come back down into this world from the glories of heaven other than for the salvation of souls. Nothing else would be worth it, and so I am sure the two witnesses are motivated by bringing souls to Christ! For anything else, God would have to drag me back here kicking and screaming.
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They stop Satan and the Beast from the Pit (the south and north kings in Da:11) from taking control of Jerusalem until they die 4 days before Jesus returns.
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Forsake the foolish, and LIVE; and go in the way of understanding." Proverbs 9:1-6
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Didn't the serpent say something like that? Let's see what she's really up to...

14) For she sitteth at the door of her house, on a seat in the high places of the city,

15) To call passengers who go right on their ways:

16) Whoso is simple, let him turn in hither: and as for him that wanteth understanding, she saith to him,

17) Stolen waters are sweet, and bread eaten in secret is pleasant.

18) But he knoweth not that the dead are there; and that her guests are in the depths of hell.
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Im not much of a religion investigator, i am not even christian but i once saw a youtube series about the two witnesses on youtube which i found really interesting.

Would be fun to here some thoughts on this






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Forsake the foolish, and LIVE; and go in the way of understanding." Proverbs 9:1-6
 Quoting: Kay 25567776


Didn't the serpent say something like that? Let's see what she's really up to...

14) For she sitteth at the door of her house, on a seat in the high places of the city,

15) To call passengers who go right on their ways:

16) Whoso is simple, let him turn in hither: and as for him that wanteth understanding, she saith to him,

17) Stolen waters are sweet, and bread eaten in secret is pleasant.

18) But he knoweth not that the dead are there; and that her guests are in the depths of hell.
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'As a Dog returns to his vomit, so the Fool returns to his Folly'

Wow, you know -----the above--- is the reason why history
has become so misconstrued---Uncle Mikey, you took
the verses from proverbs ch. 9 and neglected to include verse 13 as to appear that the chapter is talking
specifically about 'a woman', which You Call
'a serpent'.

Look at v. 13......
VERSE 13--"The woman Folly" is loud, seductive, and she knows nothing......

A Folly is an extravagent ornate costly building,or eccentric structure with no use except for decoration, as an ornament,dedication, or novelty, or conversation piece.
A more known definition of 'folly' is silliness, foolishness, or madness, however the French word 'Folie'
contains a much older meaning from the Latin which
means 'a delight' or 'favourite abode'.
In Theatre,the word means an' elaborately costumed revue'.

The verse is written with the stereotypical undertones that Men have promoted of women, more so in less recent times, as being frivolous, whimsical, fanciful, or supercillious, petty,fickle, or foolish.

If then folly is defined as 'an extravagent, ornate, costly,
building of eccentric, ornamental or novel decor, then perhaps we could then also say that 'the whole world is folly, and by being 'in the world' and 'of the world' one is indeed presently in Sheol, The Place of Folly and the Blind and the Dead.

"How slightly soever I am esteemed inthe common vogue of the world, for i well know how disingenuously FOLLY is decried,even by those who are themselves the Greatest Fools, yet it is from My influence alone that the whole universe receives her Ferment of Mirth and jollity"
(ERASMUS's Praise of FOLLY.
An oration, of feigned matter, spoken by Folly in her own person)

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I loved you, so I drew these tides of
Men into my hands
And wrote my will across the
Sky and stars
To earn you freedom, the seven
Pillared worthy house,
That your eyes might be
Shining for me
When I came
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In the paradise of the Brahamans, At the top of the seven-stepped mount there is a plain and in the midst a square table surrounded by Nine precious Stones and a Silver Bell. On the table there is a silver rose called Tamara pua, which contains two women as bright and fair as a pearl,one is called 'the lady of the mouth', BRIGAFIRI and the other TARAFIRI, ie 'the lady of the tongue'. In the center of this rose is the trianglew which is the permanent residence of god.

According to Godfrey Higgins, this is "the Rose of Isuren, of Tamul, and of Sharon.

(A true and exact description of the most celebrated
East-India
By Philip Baldaeus)

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-The Two Truths were also assigned to the
“Two Sisters,”Isis and Neft“ .
In our process the Two Sisters are Virgo the Virgin, bringing forth the matter as Mercury, and the Moon.
This is the “Original two Sisters.” The rest are all copies of this fact!


Massey believed the Two Truths had to do with the female and giving life tied to water and breath. It was, but the female actually was the Moon, and the water and breath is how the matter is brought forth.

-The symbols of the Lily, and the rose are symbols
of a day based on the cycles of the moon.

-The Two Truths are illustrated by the number
9 and the number 10.
The number 10 is lunar,
and the number 9 was representitive of Osiris
reborn as a baby. "The number nine of P'TAH and MA
is that of the drfy measure and the reckoning by nine
solar months."

-“The Great Pyramid was built by these numbers, reckonings, its slope being called nine by ten.

The Mysteries of the Masons is founded on the goddess Ma, who survives in them by her name. “Ma” and “Ma” sons!


-“'Mata' is in Sanskrit is the mother, also the moon as the measure of time.”

“Sanskirt 'Mati'('Ti' denotes twinship) may denote water and Breath, Decay and Renewal, a pair of feet, the Two Waters, the Two Solstices, the double Lunation, the Two Lion Gods, Light and Shade, Menstruation, and Gestation, Wet and Heat, the Circle and Heat, the Two truths or any other type of Twinship.

G.Massey
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LXXXII. Charge given to Enoch: the four Intercalary days: the Stars which lead the Seasons and the Months.

In the beginning of the year Mel-ke-jal rises first and rules, who is named Tam'aini and Sun, and
all the days of his dominion whilst he bears rule are ninety-one days.
And these are the signs of the days which are to be seen on earth in the days of his dominion: sweat, and heat, and calms; and all the trees bear fruit, and leaves are produced on all the trees, and the harvest of wheat, and the rose-flowers, and all the flowers which come forth in the field, but the trees of the winter season
become withered.
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Tamo'garb'ha loha:

Already produced in the laboratory, light in weight, black in color, found to be resistant to acids. Displayed high level of absorption for laser light (from red Ruby laser - as observed by Prof. Robert Anderson of San Jose State University during his visit to India in December 1991). Some chemical and other properties found to be unique-patentable new alloy.

This alloy was used in 'Tamo Yantra' in the Vimana Shastra for the purposes of absorption of light escaping from a photochemical reaction which resulted in absorption of light, thereby generating 'darkness'.
Vimana Aircraft of Ancient India & Atlantis
By David Hatcher Childress, Ivan Terence Sanderson


Arama Tamra
: A copper alloy zinc, lead and iron of light absorption. Already produced and possesses golden yellow to reddish tinge. Brittle, light and hard, on microstructure analysis found to be two-phase alloy. Very hard, Young's modulus 16.9 (described in Sanskrit text as 'Dridham')

The name Tamra or Tamara is in the Sanskrit the word
for Water or Ghee. Tamra is in the sanskrit the word for COPPER.

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[link to spokensanskrit.de]
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merry xmas palma
haha that is one crazy avatar :D
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Look at v. 13...... VERSE 13--"The woman Folly" is loud, seductive, and she knows nothing......

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I believe we are on the same page here. The story is about a 'strange woman' that lies to people right?

I had to step in and make sure she's not causing you harm.

She'll have to go through me first.

rumble

karate
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You rock Le Palma. I just re-read Proverbs and it cleared it up for me. I thought the 'Strange Woman' was the one with the 'Mingled Wine'. Sounds like a date rape drug or something. Turns out, she's Sophia Wisdom.

She sounds wonderful...

"When he prepared the heavens, I was there: when he set a compass upon the face of the depth"

"Then I was by him, as one brought up with him: and I was daily his delight, rejoicing always before him"


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Thanks. Happy holidays and have a happy new year!
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drove my aging parents to our vacation home in central florida last week.

i spent over a week working with my botanical collections on our property there.

primary to these gardens are my camellias.

one cultivar in particular, intrigues me.

camellia japonica "alba plena" (japonica, obfuscates it's true origen, mainland china)

anyway, it's a handsome camellia, the flowers up to 6" wide, fully double, and a pure pristine white.

it is said that alba plena has been cultivated for 3 millennia. the plant can only be propagated asexually,(seedlings do not breed true to the parent). therefore pieces of living tissue must be cut from the plant extant, and encouraged to initiate new roots.

hence, in a very real sense, the plant i own, is over 3 thousand years old.
(don't worry , valued friend, i'm getting to the point)

so my question is this, oh wondrous Le Palma,

do you think that a plant this old can have a sense of self?
not to think, at least in the way an animal would, but to have some "awareness"?

or maybe these are just the idle musings of a middle aged plant whisperer.

what do you think? the question is open to any of your friends as well.
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Hi david, for sure plants qnd seeds contain cell memory. Its really cool that you have a plant that old still living! Hope you have a happy new year as well
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a horse needs a hero




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One who does now the reality of a pearl would naturally except a fake plastic pearl because of a thorough ignorance of what constitutes a real pearl.
A more terrible ignorance if one knew what a real pearl is, but neglects to consider that it took an entire ocean and biosphere and ages of years and generations to create that pearl.

It has been said that it takes a villiage or community to raise a child.....I wonder if any guilt is felt by our adult 'role models' that as a whole, a whole community, as a whole human family. We have failed.
We failed to make every child feel wanted, we have failed in making our children know that they can seek hugs rather than guns and drugs.....we failed to provide every child with a home warmth and food.
We have taken our pearls of worth, our real pearls , more precious than gold and caste them into a perishible, counterfit simulation......
expecting that one day when those pearls are pulled from the muddy dregs,that they would actually be worth something of value.
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