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TWO WITNESSES--What do They Witness About?

 
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I am Spartacus and I am one of the two witnesses!
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Stand down!!

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It is exactly what Moses did to the Egyptians when they would not release his people from SLAVERY.
 Quoting: Le Palma


Indeed. But in this occasion, 'Pharaoh' is given power to kill them (the two witnesses).

... And when they shall have finished their testimony, the beast that ascendeth out of the bottomless pit shall make war against them, and shall overcome them, and kill them. - (Rev 11:7)

So that God may show yet another sign.

... And after three days and an half the spirit of life from God entered into them, and they stood upon their feet; and great fear fell upon them which saw them. And they heard a great voice from heaven saying unto them, Come up hither. And they ascended up to heaven in a cloud; and their enemies beheld them. - (Rev 11:11-12)

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peace,
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There are many lies written in the Bible, many people know this. Would be foolish to assume they wouldn't throw in some false prophecy in Revelation considering Man's Remption from The Anti-Christ, isn't it?
 Quoting: HilosPP


False...NO LIES in The Bible!

Back it up - list the supposed lies and I will refute them!
God Is! We're not! Let's knock off all the nonsense!
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Anubis is the jackel headed dog displayed at the Denver Airport, and also at the Museum,His name means
"He who is upon his mountain"---------Anubis is
Also the "Guardian of the Scales"----and the scales
of Libra who Amplifies Saturn-----presently at the feet
of Virgo...Anubis is associated the Star Sirius
and the Monster Cerbrus----Guardian of the Abyss----
which was "REeleased" (the money flowed and the oil)
by the Gulf of
Mexico Oil Spill---The Company Cerberus Capital Mgt.
 Quoting: la palma


"Hercules descended into Hades, accompanied by Mercury and Minerva. He obtained permission from Pluto to carry Cerberus to the upper air, provided he could do it without the use of weapons; and in spite of the monster’s struggling, he seized him, held him fast, and carried him to Eurystheus, and afterwards brought him back again."
 Quoting: fable


Aether in Greek mythology, is one of the Protogenoi, the first-born elementals. He is the personification of the upper sky, space, and heaven, and is the elemental god of the "Bright, Glowing, Upper Air." He is the pure upper air that the gods breathe, as opposed to the normal air that mortals breathe.
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this is funny

you know what is happening

our brotherhood(s) are doing things believing they are aware of the consequences

in practice the consequences were never within their imagination because what they are doing is enacting their "imagined is true" awareness of the cause of all effects

this is why it never senses dangerous lol

fucked

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i just realized something reading this thread

our founding fathers did not have a clue what they were walking into in either scale, personality or nature of the location
in fact they, like all others of that era, were aware of very little concerning the scale , nature and functions of our environment either locally or globally
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the reason i looked at that is because appolo quite correctly identifies denver`s symbols as representative of the motivation (beliefs) that dominated our founding fathers expression

within denver`s symbols is the expression of our founding fathers belief of creation and associated consequences
 Quoting: aether


so what our founding fathers ancestors (us) are having to do is attempt to match their beliefs of then, an accumulation of belief gathered within europe and our middle east, to a practical application matching the discoveries, thus awareness, of our past 100 years or so and confirmed via our technology off planet within our past 50 years

nasa etc.has the same problem

social structure founded upon belief not replicated in nature
as we now are aware

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Thread: Update From Prophecy Insider.. Why they are Going to Denver.. (Page 11)

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@2:18 is the AEGIS--was worn as a force protective shield against
enemies...\
 Quoting: Le Palma


that is also known as Minerva's Chain....



oh and don't forget Horace's shoes:

:shoemakerseleven::shoemakerseleven:

:shoe:


that is how one walks the sky....

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It is exactly what Moses did to the Egyptians when they would not release his people from SLAVERY.
 Quoting: Le Palma


Indeed. But in this occasion, 'Pharaoh' is given power to kill them (the two witnesses).

... And when they shall have finished their testimony, the beast that ascendeth out of the bottomless pit shall make war against them, and shall overcome them, and kill them. - (Rev 11:7)

So that God may show yet another sign.

... And after three days and an half the spirit of life from God entered into them, and they stood upon their feet; and great fear fell upon them which saw them. And they heard a great voice from heaven saying unto them, Come up hither. And they ascended up to heaven in a cloud; and their enemies beheld them. - (Rev 11:11-12)

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peace,
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1194370


There are many lies written in the Bible, many people know this. Would be foolish to assume they wouldn't throw in some false prophecy in Revelation considering Man's Remption from The Anti-Christ, isn't it?
 Quoting: HilosPP


False...NO LIES in The Bible!

Back it up - list the supposed lies and I will refute them!
 Quoting: jdb


Let's start with the fact there is no mention of the fact that Jesus and Mary Magdelene weren't married.
The Self-Annointed Golden Elohim; Israel's Redreamer.
Justice
Unchecked
Determination
Astronomically
Sup​erior
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Or rather there is no mention that they were.
The Self-Annointed Golden Elohim; Israel's Redreamer.
Justice
Unchecked
Determination
Astronomically
Sup​erior
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It is exactly what Moses did to the Egyptians when they would not release his people from SLAVERY.
 Quoting: Le Palma


Indeed. But in this occasion, 'Pharaoh' is given power to kill them (the two witnesses).

... And when they shall have finished their testimony, the beast that ascendeth out of the bottomless pit shall make war against them, and shall overcome them, and kill them. - (Rev 11:7)

So that God may show yet another sign.

... And after three days and an half the spirit of life from God entered into them, and they stood upon their feet; and great fear fell upon them which saw them. And they heard a great voice from heaven saying unto them, Come up hither. And they ascended up to heaven in a cloud; and their enemies beheld them. - (Rev 11:11-12)

[link to godsview.com]

peace,
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1194370


There are many lies written in the Bible, many people know this. Would be foolish to assume they wouldn't throw in some false prophecy in Revelation considering Man's Remption from The Anti-Christ, isn't it?
 Quoting: HilosPP


False...NO LIES in The Bible!

Back it up - list the supposed lies and I will refute them!
 Quoting: jdb

It's full of lies. Jewish fairy tales.
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A mysterious Pattern of the HEXAGRAM and PentaGram
was captured on Saturn's North Pole by Voyager in 1980........that same year in Dec of 1980, there
was the first of three alignments with Jupiter in the
constellation LIBRA------


|DEC 31, 1980 | 09:17 PM | 000 | 09LI30 | 09LI30 |
|MAR 04, 1981 | 06:55 PM | 000 | 08LI06R | 08LI06R|
|JUL 24, 1981 | 04:13 AM | 000 | 04LI56 | 04LI56 |

"Jupiter-Saturn conjunctions occur in signs of the same element for a mean period of a bit less than 200 years at a stretch"

"Triple conjunctions of Jupiter and Saturn are rare enough to be regarded as indicators of major cultural change, much like the Trigonalis. It was just such a triple conjunction in Pisces – anciently regarded as the sign of the jewish people - that led the Magi to search for "The King of the jewish people" in 7 BCE. (Magi translates as 'astrologers').

[link to www.astropro.com]

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Sigil of Baal---and the Vatican Logo


Two keys, Cross----The beehive--Mitre

Vatican logo
Vatican Logo

Baa
Sigil or Seal of Baal

Such a seal as this is used when calling forth
entities from other spheres----and when making
sacrifices in return for 'powers'----This Seal
is engraved everywhere in Vatican City, the Holy
See----The Seal is the Mark of whom They pay tribute
to.

"Who is in Control of the Vatican?"

[link to thelordschildren.org]

Who is Baal? pg. 25
Bel compound words pg. 27

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Now it's not a mystery anymore. In OT we have not mentioned God's Kingdom, at least in the way Jesus was teaching.

His teachings were new and many could not take it. That's why He said, that He still can't revile more, because his listeners could not grasp it, understand it and could not comprehend it, apostles included.

Than He gave a Holy Spirit do apostles and things were more clear.

Progressively the Truth about Kingdom was reviled through NT and the peak of that Truth is in Revelation, where God has concealed one more Mystery and we have still no idea what He was talking about.

IMHO that mystery will be reviled just in times of the end, perhaps His Two Witnesses will proclaim and revile that mystery.

Mystery I'm talking about is in Rev 10: (3) And cried with a loud voice, as [when] a lion roareth: and when he had cried, seven thunders uttered their voices. (4) And when the seven thunders had uttered their voices, I was about to write: and I heard a voice from heaven saying unto me, Seal up those things which the seven thunders uttered, and write them not. (5) And the angel which I saw stand upon the sea and upon the earth lifted up his hand to heaven, (6) And sware by him that liveth for ever and ever, who created heaven, and the things that therein are, and the earth, and the things that therein are, and the sea, and the things which are therein, that there should be time no longer: (7) But in the days of the voice of the seventh angel, when he shall begin to sound, the mystery of God should be finished, as he hath declared to his servants the prophets.

So IMHO there is a some mystery seven thunders uttered and we don't know what have they said. Mystery of God - that's obvious now - its God's Kingdom, New Jerusalem, Rapture and Armageddon - cleansing the Earth, all those associated events to wipe our a current satanic system. which is run by witchcraft, open satanism, theft etc, as few verses of revelation are saying.

Rev 9: (20) And the rest of the men which were not killed by these plagues yet repented not of the works of their hands, that they should not worship devils, and idols of gold, and silver, and brass, and stone, and of wood: which neither can see, nor hear, nor walk: (21) Neither repented they of their murders, nor of their sorceries, nor of their fornication, nor of their thefts.

The Bible is talking abut a global trends and habits.

Straight from the top. Presidents, bankers, Vatican... they are all into devil worship, idolatry, magic and sorcery and of course theft - meaning our global crisis.

But... where is the problem. I know about it and few others too. The most people on this planet has not idea how true this verse is!

The world has to be informed, why current governments should be wipe out and replaced by God's Kingdom.

And that is happening right now, on many forums.

What I have found in the next chapter of Revelation is... a prophecy mass media, television is prophesied!

Just read these verses:

Rev 11:(9) And they of the people and kindreds and tongues and nations shall see their dead bodies three days and an half, and shall not suffer their dead bodies to be put in graves. (10) And they that dwell upon the earth shall rejoice over them, and make merry, and shall send gifts one to another; because these two prophets tormented them that dwelt on the earth. (11) And after three days and an half the Spirit of life from God entered into them, and they stood upon their feet; and great fear fell upon them which saw them. (12) And they heard a great voice from heaven saying unto them, Come up hither. And they ascended up to heaven in a cloud; and their enemies beheld them.

That is incredible!!!

On front of cameras the Beast of Revelation will kill (Finally) Two Witnesses and after 3.5 days they will resurrected and TAKEN to Heaven.

The whole world will see it, most likely on YouTube we will be able even to d/load clips of that an incredible event and devastating news for the world satanists and sorcerers - meaning... world rulers.

This kind of news are not welcome in many churches, controlled by satanic Vatican, the Great Whore, the Babylon the Great.
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Sigil of Baal---and the Vatican Logo


Two keys, Cross----The beehive--Mitre

:Vatican logo:
 Quoting: Le Palma


2/2 = 8
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A mysterious Pattern of the HEXAGRAM and PentaGram
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ah, so you are into Crowely....

6 and 5....5 and 6


"Consider of six and fifty that 50 divided 6 = 0.12

0 the circumference, Nuit.
. the center, Hadit.
2 the world of illusion.

Nuit thus comprehends All in None.

Also 50x6= 56 = 5+6=11. the key of all Rituals.

And 50x6=300, the Spirit of the Child within.”


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hi
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Sigil of Baal---and the Vatican Logo


Two keys, Cross----The beehive--Mitre

Vatican logo
Vatican Logo

Baa
Sigil or Seal of Baal

Such a seal as this is used when calling forth
entities from other spheres----and when making
sacrifices in return for 'powers'----This Seal
is engraved everywhere in Vatican City, the Holy
See----The Seal is the Mark of whom They pay tribute
to.

"Who is in Control of the Vatican?"

[link to thelordschildren.org]

Who is Baal? pg. 25
Bel compound words pg. 27
 Quoting: Le Palma



This is the mystery of the key----
the key
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This is the mystery of the key----
:the key:
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 Quoting: Le Palma


this is the Ke:

The ke is a traditional Chinese unit of decimal time lasting approximately a quarter of a western hour. Traditionally the ke divides a day into 100 equal intervals of 14.4 minutes (14 m 24 s). The ke is equivalent to the centiday (cd), a non-SI prefixed unit. Ke literally means 'to etch' or 'to cut', and it is part of the noun Kedu which refers to etched-on markings on measuring devices.

Alongside the ke, the ancient Chinese kept time with double hours also known as watches. Because one cannot divide 12 double hours into 100 ke evenly, each ke was subdivided into 60 fen.

There were various attempts to redefine the ke to 96, 108, or 120 so as to divide evenly into 12 double hours. During the Qing dynasty around the time of the arrival of Jesuit missionaries, the duration of the ke was finally redefined to one ninety-sixth of a day, or exactly one quarter of a western hour.

Today ke is the standard Chinese term to refer to a quarter of an hour. In addition, today's fen is currently used to refer not to 1/60 of a ke but rather 1/60 of an hour, or 1 minute.


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This is the mystery of the key----
the key
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 Quoting: Le Palma


this is the Ke:

The ke is a traditional Chinese unit of decimal time lasting approximately a quarter of a western hour. Traditionally the ke divides a day into 100 equal intervals of 14.4 minutes (14 m 24 s). The ke is equivalent to the centiday (cd), a non-SI prefixed unit. Ke literally means 'to etch' or 'to cut', and it is part of the noun Kedu which refers to etched-on markings on measuring devices.

Alongside the ke, the ancient Chinese kept time with double hours also known as watches. Because one cannot divide 12 double hours into 100 ke evenly, each ke was subdivided into 60 fen.

There were various attempts to redefine the ke to 96, 108, or 120 so as to divide evenly into 12 double hours. During the Qing dynasty around the time of the arrival of Jesuit missionaries, the duration of the ke was finally redefined to one ninety-sixth of a day, or exactly one quarter of a western hour.

Today ke is the standard Chinese term to refer to a quarter of an hour. In addition, today's fen is currently used to refer not to 1/60 of a ke but rather 1/60 of an hour, or 1 minute.


[link to en.wikipedia.org]
 Quoting: Sugarelf



Thats interesting------"The ke ( pinyin: kè) is a traditional Chinese unit of decimal time lasting approximately a quarter of a western hour------The PinYIN
is the official system to transcribe Chinese characters into the Roman alphabet in Asia--------

PINYIN literally means "spelled sound" (phonetics)
(source wiki)

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Thats interesting------"The ke ( pinyin: kè) is a traditional Chinese unit of decimal time lasting approximately a quarter of a western hour------The PinYIN
is the official system to transcribe Chinese characters into the Roman alphabet in Asia--------

PINYIN literally means "spelled sound" (phonetics)
(source wiki)
 Quoting: aether


that remoted "spellbound"

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Thats interesting------"The ke ( pinyin: kè) is a traditional Chinese unit of decimal time lasting approximately a quarter of a western hour------The PinYIN
is the official system to transcribe Chinese characters into the Roman alphabet in Asia--------

PINYIN literally means "spelled sound" (phonetics)
(source wiki)
 Quoting: aether


that remoted "spellbound"
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YES!!!! SPELL-ing----------Words Cast Spells
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Thats interesting------"The ke ( pinyin: kè) is a traditional Chinese unit of decimal time lasting approximately a quarter of a western hour------The PinYIN
is the official system to transcribe Chinese characters into the Roman alphabet in Asia--------

PINYIN literally means "spelled sound" (phonetics)
(source wiki)
 Quoting: aether


that remoted "spellbound"
 Quoting: aether


YES!!!! SPELL-ing----------Words Cast Spells
 Quoting: Le Palma


now it remotes way back as in the writers were aware and the motive was to : spellbind

the motive was never to deceive for bad motive , it was always to form explanation that fitted social demands formed from awareness of that time as in:

the writers were always aware there is more to "it" then their capacity to tell at the time social demands required explaination
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thier prophecy is the seven thunders.
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Yes What is the Seven Thunders?
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who or what made the prophecy, i can`t find the link to see
 Quoting: aether


oh
the spell
book of revelation

we broke the spell a month or so ago
suggest we forget revelation
a broken archetype
rest in peace poor thing
never mind
the other archetypes got it rockon
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FBI memo, photo link Bush Sr to JFK Dallas murder scene
Dallas—March 23, 2006—TomFlocco.com


"A November 29, 1963 Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) lawsuit memo unearthed in 1977-78 proves that former President George H. W. Bush was a member of the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) and the recipient of a full briefing on the day after the assassination of
President John F. Kennedy on November 22, 1963 when Bush was 39 years old, despite his protestations to the contrary"

READ On Here
[link to tomflocco.com]
----___________________________________________------


:rabbit wwbking:

The Bush Adminstration's Department of Justice Sheltered BP Executives From Criminal Probe


EPA criminal investigator Scott West---Chief
AGENT in Charge at the EPA Criminal Investigation
Division------------spent thousands of hours investigating
allegations against BP British Petroleum----- when
His Investigation was shut down by the DOJ--=---


[link to www.globalresearch.ca]

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An Interesting Day: President Bush's Movements and Actions on 9/11


"At approximately 8:48 a.m. on the morning of September 11, 2001, the first pictures of the burning World Trade Center were broadcast on live television."

AT 9:03 a.m.—15 minutes (3, 6, 9)later— President Bush Sat down
in a classroom of 2nd graders and begin a 20-minute
Recitation of A Book Called "MY PET GOAT"

[link to www.historycommons.org]







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The kid goat
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Yes What is the Seven Thunders?
 Quoting: Le Palma


who or what made the prophecy, i can`t find the link to see
 Quoting: aether


oh
the spell
book of revelation

we broke the spell a month or so ago
suggest we forget revelation
a broken archetype
rest in peace poor thing
never mind
the other archetypes got it rockon
 Quoting: aether

 Quoting: Le Palma


oh, i had forgotten that

yes well sometimes our motive of past distance does not fit the reality of our present awareness, as in:

our awareness formed by discovery removes our imagined truths believed before discovery

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Maybe they, through their prophetic emphasis, will bring about many to Christ. I thought somewhere in Rev. it states they seal the 144,000
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1450086


The 144,000 ARE the two witnesses...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1549571

These are (Adam and Eve) the two olive trees, and the two candlesticks standing before the God of the earth (the Holy Spirit abides). Revelation 11: 4

"I will give power unto my two witnesses (Adam and Eve)and they shall prophesy . . .reveal the strong will of the Holy Spirit of God (male and female halves of God) while they are in the wilderness.

Pregnant Virgo clothed in sackcloth (clothed in chastity, repentance and penitence). Womb-Holy Grail. Carrying Adam the King in her womb.

Adam and Eve will hear a great voice from Heaven. "Come up hither." And they will ascend to Heaven where they will consummate their marriage and be crowned King and Queen/Father and Mother of the coming new Earth.

(The 144,000 chosen will be filled with the Holy Spirit, will choose to become martyrs for God, and will be ressurected as Holy Angels in Paradise.)
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 2975907


They will testify that God is one and God is not man. And anyone that worships a man is worshiping a false god.
Jesus was a man
Mohammad was a man
Buddah was a man
ect ect.
if you worship any of the above you worship a false god.

This is thier message. And the world will hate them for the truth they spread.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 554016


Most bible scholars and church pastors, and Christians assume that the two witnesses must be witnessing about
Accepting Jesus as your saviour ("getting saved"), repentance, and the vengence of God for not accepting his Son as a saviour. But, does the bible Really Say That?

In Rev. Ch. 11, The Two Witnesses are called "The Two Olive trees and the two Lampstands" THAT STAND BEFORE THE LORD OF THE EARTH"

The story of the witnesses is set up in the previous chapter, Chapter 10:11--
Then I was told, "You must prophesy against many peoples, nations, languages and kings." -

Presently, Christianity is the most prevalent religion on Earth. According to this website
[link to www.adherents.com] it comprises 33% of all the people affiliated with religion.

During the Crusades, and the middle ages in Europe, (1095-1291) People were forced to accept Christianity at the Edge of a sword or DIE.
Over 3 Million people were slaughtered because they did not accept christianity.

[link to necrometrics.com]

John Robertson, A short History of Christianity estimates the death totals are more likely 9 Million people slaughtered because they would not accept a religion they didn't know.

Practically everyone alive today has at least 1 ancestor that were murdered, had property stolen, tortured, beheaded, or forced to accept religion of the Catholic Church. Even the smallest estimation of death equals more
people murdered than any genocide that has happened in the modern world. This history remains unwritten in school history books, it is not spoken of, and by ignoring it, we do a great diservice to ourselves and our and our ancestors, and our children, and so the cycle continues.

No where in revelation ch. 11 does it say that the two wittnesses are telling people "You better get saved, exept Jesus as your saviour now or you will burn in hell, you wicked sinners, alchoholics and theives and drug addicts".

As we approach the "end of the age", I believe that it will be a time of Judgement for sure, however "sinners" are not the Big problem in this world. The big problem is Tyranny, Domination, Coercion, cruelty, terrorism, totalitarianism, monocracies, and oligarchies, Oppression, intimidation, and menace.
" You must prophesy against many peoples, nations, languages and kings." Every power is given by the Creator..........
Could the two witness be speaking against Big World Religions and Governments who wage endless wars in the name of peace, harmony, and good will?????? The bible certainly does NOT say that they will be standing up for one big world religion, in fact, it says they will be speaking against the nations and kings.

“Question everything. Every stripe, every star, every word spoken. Everything.”(Gains)
“Who so neglects learning in his youth loses the past and is dead to the future.'” (Euripides)
The number of THE PEOPLE are greater than those in power!!!!!!!
 Quoting: Le Palma


In short, the two witnesses (the Olive tree and the Lampstand) are the gentile Church and the Jewish-Christian Church. They witness, they prophesy, they spread the glory of the gospel during the Tribulation.
This is why there is a debate about the rapture, it is unclear whether there will be one based on Revelation 11.
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The Rapture is a new doctrine, not one that was taught by any of the prophets nor the Apostles nor the CHRIST.

The word Rapture has a root meaning that I can prove because I have the physical evidence to prove out what I tell you.

It is directly connected to the word ENCHANTMENTS & means this; The use or practice of magic,sorcery,charms,etc; the state of being enchanted;to have a spell cast upon one's self;to subdue by spells and sorcery; to RAPTURE.

Martin
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:phoenixian coin:

Ancient legend speaks of Aes-cula-pius-------
the great serpent-------for the Babylonians, the serpent was
a symbol of life restored-------Legend tells that the
serpent wrapped itself around 'The STUMP'-----of a Tree that
was "CUT DOWN"
----from which a "club" or "wand" was made-----
and A NEW TREE grew up beside it------
 Quoting: Le Palma


Okay, Christian and Catholicism ARE TOTALLY different! There are true Christians, then there are all the wolves in sheep clothing running around and making real Christians look horrible. The Crusades, led by the Roman Catholic Church and the Pope. I am a Christian and I say that the Pope is a fraud. No man should be worshiped. Jesus is the Son of God, the King of the jewish people. Christianity has been turned into a tainted religion because of the wolves. Did Jesus murder or kill? There is the OLD testament, it is old, and we are to follow the NEW testament, but keep the old teachings of Moses, the Ten commandments. The serpent crushed Christianity and planted a seed for a new religion, Catholicism, They are not the same, it is the New tree, but, a bad tree in the guise of something good, I really don't see why people even follow it as a religion, I can't understand why people even follow any other religion. I do not go to church, I have been to many DIFFERENT KINDS of churches. Church of God with many different kinds of people, a diverse unity, I mean from felons to bikers, was the best one I have been to. It doesn't matter what you dress like or where you have been, but, what you believe and your morals. I'm sorry to put Catholicity down like that, but, that is what they meant when they did a census and the 33%, most of which is Catholic. I oppose all Catholic doctrine. I know what God has told me, I know he exists and that Jesus is real and that there is a Holy Spirit. I always wanted conviction of the truth, well I got it and I have no doubt what is going to happen and that the way is in Jesus and reading the New Testament, The Old Testament isn't much but History and the Ten commandments and prophecies.

The witnesses are two individuals. If they weren't two individual people then they would of said just "the witnesses". You do know that they will use the Internet and TV, and the other will be in person. Sounds like a war is going to breakout over religion.

Guess we will see soon enough, there is not much longer to wait.
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This is the mystery of the key----
:the key:
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 Quoting: Le Palma


this is the Ke:

The ke is a traditional Chinese unit of decimal time lasting approximately a quarter of a western hour. Traditionally the ke divides a day into 100 equal intervals of 14.4 minutes (14 m 24 s). The ke is equivalent to the centiday (cd), a non-SI prefixed unit. Ke literally means 'to etch' or 'to cut', and it is part of the noun Kedu which refers to etched-on markings on measuring devices.

Alongside the ke, the ancient Chinese kept time with double hours also known as watches. Because one cannot divide 12 double hours into 100 ke evenly, each ke was subdivided into 60 fen.

There were various attempts to redefine the ke to 96, 108, or 120 so as to divide evenly into 12 double hours. During the Qing dynasty around the time of the arrival of Jesuit missionaries, the duration of the ke was finally redefined to one ninety-sixth of a day, or exactly one quarter of a western hour.

Today ke is the standard Chinese term to refer to a quarter of an hour. In addition, today's fen is currently used to refer not to 1/60 of a ke but rather 1/60 of an hour, or 1 minute.


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Thats interesting------"The ke ( pinyin: kè) is a traditional Chinese unit of decimal time lasting approximately a quarter of a western hour------The PinYIN
is the official system to transcribe Chinese characters into the Roman alphabet in Asia--------

PINYIN literally means "spelled sound" (phonetics)
(source wiki)
 Quoting: Le Palma


PINYIN -- yes, you understand....

very nice hf

anyways, all about 14.4
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Maybe they, through their prophetic emphasis, will bring about many to Christ. I thought somewhere in Rev. it states they seal the 144,000


The 144,000 ARE the two witnesses...
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square root of two = 1.414
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all four one:one four all

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