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TWO WITNESSES--What do They Witness About?

 
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Practically everyone alive today has at least 1 ancestor that were murdered, had property stolen, tortured, beheaded, or forced to accept religion of the Catholic Church.
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I have no problem with the Catholic church torturing people into repentance. Imagine if the Catholic church had the opportunity to torture the 9/11 hijackers into repentance. That day would have never happened if the Inquisition was still in operation.



Non-Christians kill Christians everyday in this country.

One of the few problems I have with the Catholic church was their policy of protecting abusive priests from the consequences of their own actions which would facilitate repentance and salvation. By protecting them from justice they are jeopardizing their salvation. You can't be saved if you never face the fire for serious transgression.

Further, if the Inquisition was still in operation there would be a lot more repentance, and a lot more people prepared for salvation. I used to think the Inquisition was an evil thing, but when I see the actions of violence committed by engaged in sin I think the Inquisition might have been divinely guided inspiration by God upon the Catholic church to prepare people for salvation and encourage a more peaceful society, because people without sin are more orderly and peaceful.
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Practically everyone alive today has at least 1 ancestor that were murdered, had property stolen, tortured, beheaded, or forced to accept religion of the Catholic Church.
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I have no problem with the Catholic church torturing people into repentance. Imagine if the Catholic church had the opportunity to torture the 9/11 hijackers into repentance. That day would have never happened if the Inquisition was still in operation.



Non-Christians kill Christians everyday in this country.

One of the few problems I have with the Catholic church was their policy of protecting abusive priests from the consequences of their own actions which would facilitate repentance and salvation. By protecting them from justice they are jeopardizing their salvation. You can't be saved if you never face the fire for serious transgression.

Further, if the Inquisition was still in operation there would be a lot more repentance, and a lot more people prepared for salvation. I used to think the Inquisition was an evil thing, but when I see the actions of violence committed by engaged in sin I think the Inquisition might have been divinely guided inspiration by God upon the Catholic church to prepare people for salvation and encourage a more peaceful society, because people without sin are more orderly and peaceful.
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Rethink the bolded bit above, people were tortured and burned at the stake because they did not appear to adhere to the ideals of the church in the past.

Regarding the 9/11 hijackers, they were prepared to die so do you think a bit of torture would have made them given in?

The torturers are just as bad as those they are claiming to be evil/sinners, no matter who they are!
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According to scripture, the two witnesses are given power to torment them that dwell on the earth. They are given powers to;

To turn the waters into blood
To shut up the heavens so that is does not rain
To smite the earth with plagues

... These have power to shut heaven, that it rain not in the days of their prophecy: and have power over waters to turn them to blood, and to smite the earth with all plagues, as often as they will. - (Rev 11:6)

And when these two witnesses are killed, the peoples and kindreds and tongues and nations will rejoice and not even give them a burial.

... And they of the people and kindreds and tongues and nations shall see their dead bodies three days and an half, and shall not suffer their dead bodies to be put in graves.

And they that dwell upon the earth shall rejoice over them, and make merry, and shall send gifts one to another; because these two prophets tormented them that dwelt on the earth. - (Rev 11:9-10)


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I believe the Two Witnesses should not be thought of as "people" but instead as Heavenly Bodies. There are other prophesies of this nature which calls them The Twins. In Hopi prophesy the "Twins" are the Red and Blue Star Kachina.

"first there is purification time..and then renewal time"
-Hopi Prophesy

"Turn the waters to blood..." to me this passage is indicative of iron oxide which is Red.

"To smite the earth with plagues"

Plagues Defined:
[link to www.thefreedictionary.com]
"A widespread affliction or calamity, especially one seen as divine retribution."

"For three and a half days some from the peoples and tribes and languages and nations will gaze at their dead bodies and refuse to let them be placed in a tomb," Revelation 11:9

I believe this passage is indicative of massive amount of people who will die in this event. So many that they are left unburied and allowed to rot and decay.

This could also represent senselessness. When the Egyptians described The Destroyer in the Kolbrin Bible, they say people dashed about crazed, delirious, zombie like after the Destroyer passes.

The Kolbin Bible (Egyptian Great Book)
CRT:3:3 Men, stricken with terror, went mad at the awful sight in the Heavens. They were loosed from their senses and dashed about, crazed, not knowing what they did The breath was sucked from their bodies, and they were burnt with a strange ash.

CRT:3:8 Men and their dwelling places were gone; only sky-boulders and red earth remained where once they were, but amidst all of the desolation, a few survived, for man is not easily destroyed. They crept out of caves and came down from the mountainsides. Their eyes were wild, and their limbs trembled; their bodies' shook, and their tongues lacked control. Their faces were twisted, and the skin hung loose on their bones. They were as maddened wild beasts driven into an enclosure before flames; they knew no law, being deprived of all the wisdom they once had, and those who guided them were gone.

The "Red Kachina" (The Destroyer) is know by many different names the world over. Despite being separated by space and time, separate ancient cultures described a very similar event which happened in OUR past. This "Event" is cyclical in nature and our ancient ancestors knew this thing would in a word...Return. That we would have a Second Coming. A second coming of the "Son(Sun) of Man" or Messiah.

"Messiahs appear in many religions including Hinduism, Judaism, Christianity and Islam."
[link to en.wikipedia.org]

The Bible and the Koran both describe a similar end time scenario which in the Koran, says The Sun with RISE in the WEST as THE indicator.

The Hopi alluded to this same phenomena of the Earth "Changing it's rotation" from clockwise(now) to counter clockwise which they claim in the "Correct" rotation. This would cause the Sun to Rise in the West. The Egyptians as well claimed the sun use to rise in the West and it changed during a huge catastrophe which caused the Bronze Age Collapse.

The Bronze Age collapse:

The Bronze Age collapse is a transition in southwestern Asia and the Eastern Mediterranean from the Late Bronze Age to the Early Iron Age that some historians believe was violent, sudden and culturally disruptive. Cultural collapse of the Mycenaean kingdoms, the Hittite Empire in Anatolia and Syria, Egyptian Empire in Syria and Canaan interrupted trade routes and severely reduced literacy. In the first phase of this period, almost every city between Troy and Gaza was violently destroyed, and often left unoccupied thereafter: examples include Hattusa, Mycenae, Ugarit.
[link to en.wikipedia.org]

5 advanced Empires.

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The torturers are just as bad as those they are claiming to be evil/sinners, no matter who they are!
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God has tortured me into repentance. Once for five years.

And the other was simply a broken leg.

________________________

And along those lines I can remember a doctrine of Christ from one church I have attended.

"If they will not repent, they must suffer, even as I"

________________________

If you look at it another way people who engage in sin can get other people killed and tortured, especially Christians, or other good people.

Case in point. The cartels down in Mexico. I guarantee you most of those people who work for the cartels got to that depraved state of mind through sin. God has every right to torture those people into repentance. The next step after that fails is to deprive them of their right to live and send them to hell.

If you had a choice between torture into repentance or hell which would you choose?

Torture is much more merciful than hell.
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The torturers are just as bad as those they are claiming to be evil/sinners, no matter who they are!
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God has tortured me into repentance. Once for five years.

And the other was simply a broken leg.

________________________

And along those lines I can remember a doctrine of Christ from one church I have attended.

"If they will not repent, they must suffer, even as I"

________________________

If you look at it another way people who engage in sin can get other people killed and tortured, especially Christians, or other good people.

Case in point. The cartels down in Mexico. I guarantee you most of those people who work for the cartels got to that depraved state of mind through sin. God has every right to torture those people into repentance. The next step after that fails is to deprive them of their right to live and send them to hell.

If you had a choice between torture into repentance or hell which would you choose?

Torture is much more merciful than hell.
 Quoting: Previously Devoured Soul



I know nothing about any cartels in Mexico, therefore, I cannot comment on it. I do not go with the notion that God tortures others until they repent, that would take away their freewill which God granted in the first place.

You sound as though you live your entire life in fear, perhaps you should if you feel you must spend your time repenting continually.

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Okay, Christian and Catholicism ARE TOTALLY different! There are true Christians, then there are all the wolves in sheep clothing running around and making real Christians look horrible.

The Crusades, led by the Roman Catholic Church and the Pope. I am a Christian and I say that the Pope is a fraud.

No man should be worshiped.

Jesus is the Son of God, the King of the jewish people.

Christianity has been turned into a tainted religion because of the wolves. Did Jesus murder or kill? There is the OLD testament, it is old, and we are to follow the NEW testament, but keep the old teachings of Moses, the Ten commandments. The serpent crushed Christianity and planted a seed for a new religion, Catholicism, They are not the same, it is the New tree, but, a bad tree in the guise of something good, I really don't see why people even follow it as a religion, I can't understand why people even follow any other religion. I do not go to church, I have been to many DIFFERENT KINDS of churches. Church of God with many different kinds of people, a diverse unity, I mean from felons to bikers, was the best one I have been to. It doesn't matter what you dress like or where you have been, but, what you believe and your morals. I'm sorry to put Catholicity down like that, but, that is what they meant when they did a census and the 33%, most of which is Catholic. I oppose all Catholic doctrine. I know what God has told me, I know he exists and that Jesus is real and that there is a Holy Spirit. I always wanted conviction of the truth, well I got it and I have no doubt what is going to happen and that the way is in Jesus and reading the New Testament, The Old Testament isn't much but History and the Ten commandments and prophecies.

The witnesses are two individuals. If they weren't two individual people then they would of said just "the witnesses". You do know that they will use the Internet and TV, and the other will be in person. Sounds like a war is going to breakout over religion.

Guess we will see soon enough, there is not much longer to wait.
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I just wanted to Post the
Genealogy of Christian Faith Communities----
-A Genealogy is of course a
"FamilyTRee"of Progression.
Source is available HERE
[link to www.catholicapologetics.org]


Roman Catholicism

50 AD Council of Jerusalem (Acts 15:2)
the law said that Gentile converts Must Be Circumcised
or they can not be saved------thats pretty Heinous-----



325 Council of Nicea I ----took place in modern Day
TURkey---to settle the calculation of the date of Easter----(Etymology of Easter is Asherah, ISHTARA, Ashteroth, and ASH BEL)---they also debated Arianism---racial supremacy ----but reading here [link to en.wikipedia.org]

--Arianism is
also a teaching attributed to Arius, a Christian presbyter from Alexandria, Egypt, concerning the relationship of the entities of the Trinity to the nature of Jesus....



1438 Council of Florence
Items on the List>>>>>>>>>PA--PAL POWER
(Papacy, Papa, Paper, 'Bul', sealed document)

The Roman Catholic Church Wanted Complete and "unaccountable"
Rule over Orthodox Churches (Serbian, Greek, Bulgarian, Russian, Georgian, Armenian, etc) In Exchange for
Military protection from Ottoman Turks (Mohammedans).


Sir James Kennedy (1408–1465) was Bishop of Dunkeld and Bishop of St. Andrews, in Scotland and participated in the Council of Florence. He sought reform within the church for Abuses of Power, and Money---and attended the general council of Florence, in order to obtain authority from Pope Eugenius IV to take action on the Reforms.
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In 1517, Lutherans formed from the Catholic Church, also
in 1534 Anglicans, and in 1560 Presbyterians----1525 Anabaptists---the Baptists were formed in 1612




In 1534----England and King Henry VIII(b. 1491 - d. 1547) made a Break from the Catholic Church in Rome and the Authority They had over His Kingdom---
after the Break he legally became an English Catholic,
Yet Still A Branch from the Same Tree


Read more: [link to wiki.answers.com]

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perhaps you should if you feel you must spend your time repenting continually.
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Yep. There is a reason you don't see my face on the local police blotter for sale for a dollar at your local convenience store like some of these fools running around whoring and doing drugs which leads them to commit other stupid mistakes they get arrested for.

My run ins with the law were misdemeanors in my teens and early 20's when I was whoring and using marijuana. Since about 28 I have been in a nearly constant state of repentance, minus a blowjob.

I don't engage in whoring or drug use encouraged by our media.
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American Indians--Stannard, American Holocaust (1992): 100,000,000 deaths across the hemisphere across time



M. D. Aletheia, The Rationalist's Manual (1897): 30,000,000 Mexicans and Peruvians were slaughtered.


Davies: Crusaders killed up to 8,000 jewish people in Rhineland


1099AD--- Fall of Jerusalem: 70,000 Muslims massacred

Robertson, John M., A Short History of Christianity (1902) p.278: 9,000,000 people killed----(However several death
counts for the Crusades are mentioned, all in the Millions)


M. D. Aletheia, The Rationalist's Manual (1897): 9,000,000 burned for witchcraft (most convicted because of hearsay
and word of mouth)


Bethancourt: The Killings of Witches, lists 628 named and 268,331 unnamed witches killed as of Dec. 2000, and estimates that between 20,000 and 500,000 people were killed as witches. [ [link to www.illusions.com]


Vlad Dracula, Wallachia (r.1456-1462)
Flexner, Pessimist's Guide to History:
in all, 50,000-100,000 victims "impaled, tortured and killed"



Spanish Inquisition-----Rummel: 350,000 deaths overall.


St. Bartholomew's Massacre------
Cathars and THe French
slaughtered------Fox's Book of Martyrs, Ch.IV: 10,000 in Paris; 6,000 in Rouen; 100,000 nationwide.


Irish----Fuller, A Military History of the Western World, v.2 (1955): 500,000

Timur Lenk (1369-1405) [link to en.wikipedia.org]
Peter Ford, “Ex-Russian Satellite Enjoys Setting Its Own Agenda,” Christian Science Monitor, June 3, 1997: “Tamerlane… was responsible for the deaths of as many as
20 million people...”

source [link to www.necrometrics.com]

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perhaps you should if you feel you must spend your time repenting continually.
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Yep. There is a reason you don't see my face on the local police blotter for sale for a dollar at your local convenience store like some of these fools running around whoring and doing drugs which leads them to commit other stupid mistakes they get arrested for.

My run ins with the law were misdemeanors in my teens and early 20's when I was whoring and using marijuana. Since about 28 I have been in a nearly constant state of repentance, minus a blowjob.

I don't engage in whoring or drug use encouraged by our media.
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Ahh that's okay then, I don't use those either.
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"I was so blind I could not see
Your Paradise Is Not for Me"

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Prince Charles Wants Sense of Belonging
[link to www.skynews.com.au]

The Prince has purchased a 5 bedroom house in a small Village
in the Very isolated Carpathian Mountains, founded by his
Transylvanian ancestors....the home will be used as
a "holiday retreat" when he is not in residence.

[link to www.dailymail.co.uk]

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First Born Daughter May have Right to Succeed to the Throne


Centuries old Law----that prevented Mary, First born
daughter of King Edward VIII and Catherine of ARAgon from
ascending to the Throne---has been changed by the
Commonwealth, but still must be voted on by the legislatures of the 16 Nations where Queen Elizabeth II is Head of State.

"The idea that a younger son should become monarch instead of an elder daughter simply because he's a man or that a future monarch can marry someone of any faith except a Catholic - this way of thinking is at odds with the modern countries that we've all become," British Prime Minister David Cameron said Friday in Perth, Australia, site of a conference of Commonwealth countries where the agreement was reached. (source Charlotte Observer)

Read more: [link to www.charlotteobserver.com]


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Pope Ignored by His own Cardinals????

Thread: Cardinals refuse to shake hands with Pope



in German, attached to this video is the following...

"Pressefreiheit ist die Freiheit von 200 reichen Leuten, ihre Meinung zu verbreiten"

Translation.....
"Freedom of the press is the freedom of 200 rich people, your opinion to spread"


"Paul Sethe, einer der Herausgeber der „Frankfurter Allgemeinen Zeitung", über eine Klasse, der er selbst angehört: Verleger und Chefredakteure, die dafür bezahlt werden, die Meinung ihrer Verleger zu verbreiten"

Translation......
"Paul sethe, one of the editors of the newspaper "Frankfurter Allgemeine Zeitung", on a class to which he himself belongs: publishers and editors, which are paid for it, the opinion of your publishers to distribute"




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Temples were always built by a group---they were stone builders---Masons----Hiram Abiff----was a Mason in the time of King David-----they held the secret of the Fibonacci pattern in nature, the Golden Mean, Golden Fleece, and they knew how to reproduce the pattern of the
Fibonacci to scale. Gothic Churches are an example of their work. Rossa--LYn chapel, and other structures....

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oh,

that is what the templars discovered, fibonacci
they discovered the living (organic) god

that makes perfect sense now you tell it rockon
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Hi Aether this is 755 been a little busy lately how all doing I'm still alive hope all is the the same tell appollo I said talk soon.
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Temples were always built by a group---they were stone builders---Masons----Hiram Abiff----was a Mason in the time of King David-----they held the secret of the Fibonacci pattern in nature, the Golden Mean, Golden Fleece, and they knew how to reproduce the pattern of the
Fibonacci to scale. Gothic Churches are an example of their work. Rossa--LYn chapel, and other structures....

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oh,

that is what the templars discovered, fibonacci
they discovered the living (organic) god

that makes perfect sense now you tell it rockon
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Hi Aether this is 755 been a little busy lately how all doing I'm still alive hope all is the the same tell appollo I said talk soon.
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755 prompts 0 in my memory and i don`t know appollo
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WE witness against the beast and his false prophet... our time has come today!
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The torturers are just as bad as those they are claiming to be evil/sinners, no matter who they are!
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God has tortured me into repentance. Once for five years.

And the other was simply a broken leg.

________________________

And along those lines I can remember a doctrine of Christ from one church I have attended.

"If they will not repent, they must suffer, even as I"

________________________

If you look at it another way people who engage in sin can get other people killed and tortured, especially Christians, or other good people.

Case in point. The cartels down in Mexico. I guarantee you most of those people who work for the cartels got to that depraved state of mind through sin. God has every right to torture those people into repentance. The next step after that fails is to deprive them of their right to live and send them to hell.

If you had a choice between torture into repentance or hell which would you choose?

Torture is much more merciful than hell.
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They didn't like who Immanual hung out with either, Tax Collectors, fisherman and assorted company that drinks and did things that Rome and the Church of the time said were Illegal. Do you think Mexico would be in trouble if weed was legal on a Global Level?
The Self-Annointed Golden Elohim; Israel's Foresaken.
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I'm beginning to think the biggest irony about the bible is, the only thing the devil really has to do with anything is telling God He can't do something before God does it while the devil is watching. What if God finally was able to cast Hell and let the Devil see that too?
The Self-Annointed Golden Elohim; Israel's Foresaken.
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Definition of Evil from Catholic Encyclopedia
[link to www.newadvent.org]

"With regard to the nature of evil, it should be observed that evil is of three kinds — physical, moral, and metaphysical.

Physical evil includes all that causes harm to man, whether by bodily injury, by thwarting his natural desires, or by preventing the full development of his powers, either in the order of nature directly, or through the various social conditions under which mankind naturally exists."

......Evil is......All that Thwarts and Prevents
the Full development of his powers


Honestly, I think the Catholic encyclopedia
is in need of a new
definition of Evil----looks like they have unwittingly
pinned the tail on their own donkey.

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Is it actually written in the Catholic Encyclopedia
that Nature is EVIL?

"Metaphysical evil is the limitation by one another of various component parts of the natural world.
Through this mutual limitation natural objects are for the most part prevented from attaining to their full or ideal perfection, whether by the constant pressure of physical condition, or by sudden catastrophes.

Thus, animal and vegetable organisms are variously influenced by climate and other natural causes;

...in fact, only by a transference to irrational objects of the subjective ideals and aspirations of human intelligence, that the "evil of nature" can be called evil in any sense but a merely analogous (similiar) one."

[link to www.newadvent.org]
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"LUCIFER
"(LBT NIR Spectrograph Utility with Camera and Integral-Field Unit for Extragalactic
Research) is a NIR spectrograph and imager for the Large Binocular Telescope (LBT) working in the
wavelength range from 0.85 m to 2.5 m. Currently only one LUCIFER instrument is available at
the LBT. It is mounted on the bent Gregorian focus of the SX mirror. In 2011 an identical instrument
will be mounted on the bent Gregorian focus of the DX mir."
[link to abell.as.arizona.edu]
[link to abell.as.arizona.edu]


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Who Are the Two Witnesses of Revelation?

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Who Are the Two Witnesses of Revelation?

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The two witnesses will witness of the truth.

They will witness of the soon coming of The Lord Jesus Christ and his kingdom and holy government to Earth. They will witness of the True God and the Way to God even the God Yah also known as Abba Father and His Good news of grace. (Grace is the power of God to transform our hearts by faith in his Son and his Cross we become new creatures of light also called the sons of God.) We become apart of God's family. This is not religion but relationship through power and being and presence in the spirit of God.

This relationship is the truth and being essentially above earthly words this relationship is reality and called The Word of God as it must be communicated to our being and life and we through it become partakers of Jesus' Name (character/being) through grace. And we receive this grace through faith and trust in Jesus. It is a free gift paid by a high price of his blood and suffering even the Cross of Christ. Faith is made effectual through understanding the good news and believing in it. And with the mouth we confess into salvation.

Truly said religion kills and the Spirirt of Truth gives this life. The church is a cracked vessel even a spiritual hospital and in many ways has become the synagogue of Satan with the Catholic denomination as it's head in time past. The true two witnesses will witness against all the false religious systems including, Christiandom, Judaism and Islam and all false governments (which is all of them) and present and give testimony to the true Living Way of Grace and the New Jerusalem that will come from heaven through words and demonstrations of power and dire warnings and plagues and great hope. They are God's 007. License to mortally protect themselves through special spiritual powers against those that would harm them which will be many. They will be greatly opposed for in the time of their testimony (which is this present generation) men will be
lovers of vanity and not lovers of the God of truth, they hate truth and not
know it being decieved. The witnessess will be contrite of heart and
possessed of and by the Holy Spirit.

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Last Edited by Baruch HaShem on 01/21/2012 09:12 AM
At that time Jesus said, "I praise you, Father, Lord of heaven and earth, because you have hidden these things from the wise and learned, and revealed them to little children.

"Do you hear what these children are saying?" they asked him. "Yes," replied Jesus, "have you never read, "'From the lips of children and infants you have ordained praise'?"

But God chose the foolish things of the world to shame the wise; God chose the weak things of the world to shame the strong.

The LORD is my strength and my song; he has become my salvation.
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Hi OP ! I been thiking about what Daniel heard and did not wroted it I think it have to do with the original WATCHMENS THE ANGELS that currected mankind that made the gaints powerfull, God prisoned them in groups 4 by the river Euph,1 coming out the buttom pit apollo and more. I think the times of noah and sodom and gom could be compare in that there where a disclosure elien gods by the WATCHMENS ANGELS CONSPIRED AGAINST MENKIND and ruling true the gaints and witchcraft and technology. So meybe that is what is happening the returns and relist of 4 angels baw in the gulf persi by the river Euphe and the others.even others demons angels been working with goverments waiting the relist of the watchmens angel to start distroing the 1/3 of menkind.

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