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Message Subject TWO WITNESSES--What do They Witness About?
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A Day of Reckoning Le Palma?
 Quoting: HilosPP

Well,Hilos I don't really understand
what KT is so upset at me about.
The only thing I can guess is
that he is mad because I told
him not to post the same
pictures of idols that we have
seen a million times on forum
over and over again on this thread.

He claims to be fighting for
some wannabe brotherhood, and
from the symbols he posts
and and the pictures, it appears
to me that he is associated
(or wants to be associated
with) some illuminati group
that is associated with the
CAtholic Church,posting
Knight of the Garter
and other military honor
Orders as if they are his own
which could be termed as
Treason against the Order
according to their laws
just so you know.

And also I read on the
Sedona Arizona Thread
that he might actually
be Mark Pinkham, or associated
with Mark, or Charles who is
also associated with Mark. Who
knows, I know people reading
don't know who these people
are, but I know exactly who
they are and what they are
about, and I know all about
the little war that has erupted
over all this within the
Orders and their subjugates
They are all trying
to Get a piece of the PIE.

 Quoting: Le Palma

The Bedesmen were first before ALL current and old orders. Hence, Saint Bede who was also Saint John is one of the Original Grand Masters and I AM him for he is me. Imagine that? A reborn Saint reincarnated here speaking with you on the GLP. Who would have ever thought?

Bedard coat

Here is some History on the Brotherhood for you Le Palma and you can take this back to your Orders for Historical fact checking.

The Blue-gown Beggar, or King's Bedesman, was regarded, in virtue of the aristocracy of his order, as an important personage. "These Bedesmen," observes Sir Walter Scott in his advertisement to the Antiquary, "are an order of paupers to the king."

SOURCE: William Hugh Logan, James Maidment - 1869 - 479 pages - Free Google eBook - Read

In all the cathederals of the new foundation, there were several beadsman on the Foundation who said prayers for the Founder and wore Tudor Roses on their chests

SOURCE: Sacred archæology: a popular dictionary of ecclesiastical art and ... - Page 64


Templar Cross

The war-cry of the Templars, in allusion to their colours — black for their foes, and white for friends, ... Bede. A prayer. Bede-roll was a catalogue or list of the departed, who were prayed for every Sunday from the pulpit. ...
SOURCE: Mackenzie Edward Charles Walcott - 1868 - 640 pages - Free Google eBook - Read

In Scotland, he belonged to the aristocracy of his order and was esteemed and of great importance

SOURCE: The Waverley novels
By Sir Walter Scott


In 936 he commanded a church be built and it was called st peter that provided 206 bedesmen served by a master, 13 brethren, - The Catholic encyclopedia: an international work of reference on ..., Volume 7 By Knights of Columbus. Catholic Truth Committee

"The king's beadsmen were his chaplains."

St Bede 2

This assertion is partly borne out by an entry in "The Privy Purse Expenses of King Henry VIII." published by Sir Harris Nicolas:—" Item, to Sii Torche, the king's bedc man at the Rood in Grenewiche, for one yere now ended, xl s." The title "Sir" was in these days more especially applied to priests. (Sec ' Merry Wives of Windsor.') But the term " Bedesman" was also, we have little doubt, generally applied to any persons, whether of the clergy or laity, who rtceived endowments for the purpose of offering prayers for the sovereign. Henry VII. established such persons upon a magnificent scale. The Harlcian MS. No. l498, in the British Maseum, is an indenture made between Henry VII. and John Islipp, Abbot of St . Peter, Westminster, in which the abbot engages to "provide and sustain within the said monastery, in the almshouses there,

therefore made and appointed by the said king, thirteen poor men, one of them being a priest;" and the duty of these thirteen poor men is "to pray during the life of the said king, our sovereign lord, for the good and prosperous state of the same king, our sovereign lord, and for the prospering of this his realm."

These men are not in the indenture called bedesmen; that instrument providing that they " shall be named and called the Almesse men of the said king our sovereign lord." The general designation of those who make prayers for others—bedesmen —is here sunk in a name derived from the particular almesse (alms) or endowment

The dress of the twelve almsmen is to be a gown and a hood,

Cross and Man

"and a scochyn to be made and tortured man has fainted—" he 1 1 scarce ride to day, though he has had his boots on." Douce says, "the torture of the boot was known in France, and, in all probability, imported from that country." He then gives a representation of it, copied from Millteus's Praxis criminis persequendi, Paris, l54l. The woodcut which we subjoin is from the same book; but we have restored a portion of the original engraving which Douce has omitted— the judges, or examiners, witnessing the torture, and prepared to record the prisoner's deposition under its endurance.

SOURCE: The comedies, histories, tragedies and poems of William Shakspere, ed. by C ...
By William Shakespeare
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