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Message Subject TWO WITNESSES--What do They Witness About?
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Most bible scholars and church pastors, and Christians assume that the two witnesses must be witnessing about
Accepting Jesus as your saviour ("getting saved"), repentance, and the vengence of God for not accepting his Son as a saviour. But, does the bible Really Say That?

In Rev. Ch. 11, The Two Witnesses are called "The Two Olive trees and the two Lampstands" THAT STAND BEFORE THE LORD OF THE EARTH"

The story of the witnesses is set up in the previous chapter, Chapter 10:11--
Then I was told, "You must prophesy against many peoples, nations, languages and kings." -

Presently, Christianity is the most prevalent religion on Earth. According to this website
[link to www.adherents.com] it comprises 33% of all the people affiliated with religion.

During the Crusades, and the middle ages in Europe, (1095-1291) People were forced to accept Christianity at the Edge of a sword or DIE.
Over 3 Million people were slaughtered because they did not accept christianity.

[link to necrometrics.com]

John Robertson, A short History of Christianity estimates the death totals are more likely 9 Million people slaughtered because they would not accept a religion they didn't know.

Practically everyone alive today has at least 1 ancestor that were murdered, had property stolen, tortured, beheaded, or forced to accept religion of the Catholic Church. Even the smallest estimation of death equals more
people murdered than any genocide that has happened in the modern world. This history remains unwritten in school history books, it is not spoken of, and by ignoring it, we do a great diservice to ourselves and our and our ancestors, and our children, and so the cycle continues.

No where in revelation ch. 11 does it say that the two wittnesses are telling people "You better get saved, exept Jesus as your saviour now or you will burn in hell, you wicked sinners, alchoholics and theives and drug addicts".

As we approach the "end of the age", I believe that it will be a time of Judgement for sure, however "sinners" are not the Big problem in this world. The big problem is Tyranny, Domination, Coercion, cruelty, terrorism, totalitarianism, monocracies, and oligarchies, Oppression, intimidation, and menace.
" You must prophesy against many peoples, nations, languages and kings." Every power is given by the Creator..........
Could the two witness be speaking against Big World Religions and Governments who wage endless wars in the name of peace, harmony, and good will?????? The bible certainly does NOT say that they will be standing up for one big world religion, in fact, it says they will be speaking against the nations and kings.

“Question everything. Every stripe, every star, every word spoken. Everything.”(Gains)
“Who so neglects learning in his youth loses the past and is dead to the future.'” (Euripides)
The number of THE PEOPLE are greater than those in power!!!!!!!
 Quoting: Le Palma

In short, the two witnesses (the Olive tree and the Lampstand) are the gentile Church and the Jewish-Christian Church. They witness, they prophesy, they spread the glory of the gospel during the Tribulation.
This is why there is a debate about the rapture, it is unclear whether there will be one based on Revelation 11.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 967366

soo, your saying that the jewish and christian churches have the power to
cause plagues, shut the heavens so it doesnt rain, able to devour their enemies with fire that flows out of their mouths..? and finally a great earthquake after they ascend to heaven?...dont think so.
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