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EPA Declares Hay a Pollutant in Effort to Antagonize Small and Mid-Sized U.S. Cattle Feeders

 
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has the EPA lost it's tiny little mind? this is another slap in the face, and wallet, to the american cattle rancher. this could possibly move to anyone who uses hay for any reason.

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EPA Declares Hay a Pollutant in Effort to Antagonize Small and Mid-Sized U.S. Cattle Feeders

September 1, 2011 Billings, Mont. – During his presentation on the status of the nation’s new country-of-origin labeling (COOL) law, and on behalf of the R-CALF USA COOL Committee, R-CALF USA member and Kansas cattle feeder Mike Callicrate was asked a non-COOL question that set convention goers on their heels during the 12th Annual R-CALF USA Convention held August 26-27 in Rapid City, S.D.

“Has the Environmental Protection Agency declared hay a pollutant?” an audience member asked. Callicrate responded affirmatively and explained that the Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) recently initiated a formal enforcement action against his Kansas feedlot for, among other things, failure to store his hay in a pollution containment zone. “Now that EPA has declared hay a pollutant, every farmer and rancher that stores hay, or that leaves a broken hay bale in the field is potentially violating EPA rules and subject to an EPA enforcement action,” Callicrate said. “How far are we going to let this agency go before we stand up and do something about it?”

this site also lists all products in crops the epa considers to have pesticide pollutants. an extremely interesting list.

EPA Pesticide Use Index Index of Pesticide Use Sites Corresponding Major Use Pattern(s) Crop Group

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the epa is doing everything it can to interfere in the smaller producers of everyones food.

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I think it was last few months that a lot on GLP that were involved with the cattle industry were saying that Hay was selling at record highs due to weather. Ranchers can't feed their herds so they are going to slaughter at a record pace.

This EPA ruling can't help them :/
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I think it was last few months that a lot on GLP that were involved with the cattle industry were saying that Hay was selling at record highs due to weather. Ranchers can't feed their herds so they are going to slaughter at a record pace.

This EPA ruling can't help them :/
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thanks sedi!hugs

the combo of the weather and the price of hay, plus this ruling are part of a greater plan to end small ranching and give it all to corporations who will then control our food.

if this sort of epa intervention keeps going we are all going to find ourselves living with codex alimentarious and agenda 21's fingers in everything we do.

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I think it was last few months that a lot on GLP that were involved with the cattle industry were saying that Hay was selling at record highs due to weather. Ranchers can't feed their herds so they are going to slaughter at a record pace.

This EPA ruling can't help them :/
 Quoting: Sedi


thanks sedi!hugs

the combo of the weather and the price of hay, plus this ruling are part of a greater plan to end small ranching and give it all to corporations who will then control our food.

if this sort of epa intervention keeps going we are all going to find ourselves living with codex alimentarious and agenda 21's fingers in everything we do.

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Good then, maybe they'll declare my area a federal disaster area and we can get some super fund clean up money to do away with hundreds of thousands of acres of hay. We're also inundated with a few hundred thousand cows which are known to cause serious ozone issues..right? another do
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Hay is an all natural product the EPA is the pollutant.
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I think it was last few months that a lot on GLP that were involved with the cattle industry were saying that Hay was selling at record highs due to weather. Ranchers can't feed their herds so they are going to slaughter at a record pace.

This EPA ruling can't help them :/
 Quoting: Sedi


thanks sedi!hugs

the combo of the weather and the price of hay, plus this ruling are part of a greater plan to end small ranching and give it all to corporations who will then control our food.

if this sort of epa intervention keeps going we are all going to find ourselves living with codex alimentarious and agenda 21's fingers in everything we do.

cdoom
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Bingo.
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yep
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Good then, maybe they'll declare my area a federal disaster area and we can get some super fund clean up money to do away with hundreds of thousands of acres of hay. We're also inundated with a few hundred thousand cows which are known to cause serious ozone issues..right? another do
What gives???
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help you?!? lmao oh, they don't want to super fund and clean up. they want to clean out the small ranchers and launch mega corporate ranches. then everything will be just fine.

we'll all be made to be vegans by that time. unless you want to pay $50 a pound for beef.
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thank you my dear. karma back at you.hf

this sort of nonsense government intervention needs to be stopped.

the EPA and the FDA are run by insane people. the types the government loves best.

and don't forget the corporate lobbys either. i smell their stink on this.
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As you said in my thread, TG- I'd laugh if it wasn't so tragic.
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Allow me:

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you go, snakeairlines. have fun with your bs flag. lmao
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As you said in my thread, TG- I'd laugh if it wasn't so tragic.
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thanks, woodstock. it's going to be a sad day for all of us if the epa runs out small ranchers.verysad
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As you said in my thread, TG- I'd laugh if it wasn't so tragic.
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thanks, woodstock. it's going to be a sad day for all of us if the epa runs out small ranchers.verysad
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Did you even bother to look up the actual letter from the EPA to Callicrate Feeding Company?

I did...

The BS Flag stands...

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more dirt on the rats that want to walk all over american farmers and ranchers....

As our precious few independent livestock producers and small processors continue their losing fight for survival, the USDA dreams up even more ways to make their lives more difficult. These are the people producing the safest, highest quality and most dependable food for our tables. As we sit here today at this listening session in Greeley, Colorado, considering the depressing possibility and cost of tracing back every healthy animal to its home of origin so Tyson, Cargill and JBS can export more, the farmer and rancher with the heaviest workload and the least income will pay – and down the road – consumers will also pay.

Today, USDA, in protecting the biggest and dirtiest meat plants, continues to block trace-back of pathogens to the source plant, a very easy and inexpensive measure that could improve food safety tomorrow – and you say instead you want to track healthy animals back to the farm! Where USDA’s farm-to-kill plant NAIS ends, contamination and food degradation begins. What do you call an agency that actively undermines a nation’s ability to feed itself? What term defines an agency that sells out its mission to serve and protect the people in favor of serving higher profits of multinational agribusiness corporations? Stupid would be a kind choice of words

[link to farmwars.info]
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Did you even bother to look up the actual letter from the EPA to Callicrate Feeding Company?

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yeah- it's full of the usual bureaucratese
eg "failures to meet the requirements of the Nutrient Management Plan"
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Did you even bother to look up the actual letter from the EPA to Callicrate Feeding Company?

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yeah- it's full of the usual bureaucratese
eg "failures to meet the requirements of the Nutrient Management Plan"
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Much less than 50%:

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A.J. Jones, d/b/a Callicrate Feeding Company, St. Francis, Kan. – An inspection in February 2011 identified significant NPDES permit violations, including failure to maintain adequate wastewater storage capacity, failure to meet Nutrient Management Plan requirements, failure to conduct operations within areas that are controlled in a manner capable of preventing pollution, and failure to maintain adequate records. The order requires the operation to comply with all terms of the Clean Water Act and its NPDES permit, and to coordinate with the Kansas Department of Health and Environment on its compliance. The order requires the operation to comply with the terms of its Nutrient Management Plan, including sampling and recordkeeping requirements. The feedlot has a permitted capacity of 12,000 cattle and was confining approximately 3,219 cattle at the time of the inspection.

Nowhere does it state "Hay" is the issue...

What it says is:

"failure to conduct operations within areas that are controlled in a manner capable of preventing pollution"

Sounds like they have a runoff issue with manure...
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As you said in my thread, TG- I'd laugh if it wasn't so tragic.
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thanks, woodstock. it's going to be a sad day for all of us if the epa runs out small ranchers.verysad
 Quoting: tinygreen


Did you even bother to look up the actual letter from the EPA to Callicrate Feeding Company?

I did...

The BS Flag stands...

hi
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i want to see the actual letter the epa sent callicrate, not a rehash on another website. okay?

i really would like to see the letter. i've been searching for quite a while and can't find an actual letter.

it's quite possible that there were violations.

what about large feedlots that have many thousands of animals and are not held to the same standard?

callicrate states, ' Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) recently initiated a formal enforcement action against his Kansas feedlot for, among other things, failure to store his hay in a pollution containment zone. since when does hay need to be in a pollution containment zone.

half the freakin country would be in violation of that. me included. i have 3 acres of hay growing right damn now.
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Black is white and white is black, up is down and down is up - it seems to be the way these days. Sad indeed. In rural Texas where I live, I've not heard of any of these crazy laws implemented against anyone yet. Anyone in Texas had such problems?
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Black is white and white is black, up is down and down is up - it seems to be the way these days. Sad indeed. In rural Texas where I live, I've not heard of any of these crazy laws implemented against anyone yet. Anyone in Texas had such problems?
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i haven't seen anything on texas yet. i'm sure we will though.
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um, thanks for the bump?hf
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i want to see the actual letter the epa sent callicrate, not a rehash on another website. okay?

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I misspoke...If there is a letter, it has not been made public that I can find...

What I erroneously called a 'letter' (and posted), was the EPA's, "Administrative Compliance Order" publicly issued to Callicrate Feeding Company, by the EPA Region 7 Office...

Nowhere does it mention 'hay'...

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i want to see the actual letter the epa sent callicrate, not a rehash on another website. okay?

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I misspoke...If there is a letter, it has not been made public that I can find...

What I erroneously called a 'letter' (and posted), was the EPA's, "Administrative Compliance Order" publicly issued to Callicrate Feeding Company, by the EPA Region 7 Office...

Nowhere does it mention 'hay'...

[link to www.epa.gov]
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likewise it does not state manure. it states wastewater.
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i want to see the actual letter the epa sent callicrate, not a rehash on another website. okay?

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I misspoke...If there is a letter, it has not been made public that I can find...

What I erroneously called a 'letter' (and posted), was the EPA's, "Administrative Compliance Order" publicly issued to Callicrate Feeding Company, by the EPA Region 7 Office...

Nowhere does it mention 'hay'...

[link to www.epa.gov]
 Quoting: SnakeAirlines


likewise it does not state manure. it states wastewater.
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Ever actually been on a feedlot?

'Wastewater' is runoff from the 'yard', as in where the cattle shit and piss...

It has nothing to do with 'hay', as the last thing you want is your hay getting wet...
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Hello TG, hi

So growing grass for the purpose of feeding cattle has now become a pollutant..

Hmmmm, seems like the EPA administrators should be checked to see if they are growing any "grass" of their own--and perhaps, smoking it.

This is ludicrous--more dismantling of the USA.....

Will I get in trouble when I use hay bundles for my outdoor Fall display?
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Will I get in trouble when I use hay bundles for my outdoor Fall display?
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Yah...

They're cummin'ta git'chee...

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