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The reason that most spiritual teachings have been sheltered away from the common person throughout the histroy of the world is twofold 1) the common person would gain little benefit from evolution systems in a base state lacking the prerequisite condition 2) to preserve the integrity of these systems against the possibility of a person lacking sufficient comprehension and understanding of the material yet with sufficient knowledge to contribute falsehoods and misunderstandings to the larger discourse.

The little known secret to all these practices is that they DO VERY LITTLE to NOTHING for the psychological neurosis of the mind. In fact, one of the traditional great dangers of all these systems and in the whole guru system in general is the danger of markers of spiritual progress being faked or counterfitted by the conscious mind (both with intention and without intention) and the energy freed by the various practices, instead of being applied with integrity to the system for the evolution of the spirit to meet the eternal soul, go to fuel any number of neurotic ego-driven pathologies so commonly noted in the modern world today.

With this in mind, the dangling of the promises of the spiritual systems of the world in the face of one who is suffering NOT with some greater metaphysical dilemna but in fact with the weight of their own mis-programmed (from the faults of society and family) mind DOES THE SUFFERER NO FAVORS but insteads performs the role of a spell in witchcraft to chain their emotional well-being to the attainment of some kind of magickal sigil (which can be a concept or a physical mark), depriving the person of their own power and empowering THE OTHER, whether this be a book, a meditation, an evoked diety, or the guru.

With this in mind, what the average person needs from the evolved souls is not a diatribe on spiritual evolution or the promises of the Great Work, but rather a framing of the issue of each and every person's unique life which makes their suffering SIGNFICANT and IMPORTANT to THEM, an exploration of the origins and causes of their day to day struggles and simple understandings which point to the reasons why the things which come up in the mind and in the world act the way they do upon the individual, both as a product of their own lives and a product of the larger evolutionary enterprise known as humanity.

It is through the day to day realization of the nature of the STRUGGLE, that the mind can acheive the peace it needs to give the spirit the power required to make the first infant steps on the way to the permanent relieving of suffering that comes from evolution.

Human children cannot be given a discourse on the nature of walking, they must instead be fed and protected so they can grow until they can observe enough of walking to have the ability to do it without thought, to walk towards the light as a reflex and unstoppable inate drive!

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The reason that most spiritual teachings have been sheltered away from the common person throughout the histroy of the world is twofold 1) the common person would gain little benefit from evolution systems in a base state lacking the prerequisite condition 2) to preserve the integrity of these systems against the possibility of a person lacking sufficient comprehension and understanding of the material yet with sufficient knowledge to contribute falsehoods and misunderstandings to the larger discourse.

The little known secret to all these practices is that they DO VERY LITTLE to NOTHING for the psychological neurosis of the mind. In fact, one of the traditional great dangers of all these systems and in the whole guru system in general is the danger of markers of spiritual progress being faked or counterfitted by the conscious mind (both with intention and without intention) and the energy freed by the various practices, instead of being applied with integrity to the system for the evolution of the spirit to meet the eternal soul, go to fuel any number of neurotic ego-driven pathologies so commonly noted in the modern world today.

With this in mind, the dangling of the promises of the spiritual systems of the world in the face of one who is suffering NOT with some greater metaphysical dilemna but in fact with the weight of their own mis-programmed (from the faults of society and family) mind DOES THE SUFFERER NO FAVORS but insteads performs the role of a spell in witchcraft to chain their emotional well-being to the attainment of some kind of magickal sigil (which can be a concept or a physical mark), depriving the person of their own power and empowering THE OTHER, whether this be a book, a meditation, an evoked diety, or the guru.

With this in mind, what the average person needs from the evolved souls is not a diatribe on spiritual evolution or the promises of the Great Work, but rather a framing of the issue of each and every person's unique life which makes their suffering SIGNFICANT and IMPORTANT to THEM, an exploration of the origins and causes of their day to day struggles and simple understandings which point to the reasons why the things which come up in the mind and in the world act the way they do upon the individual, both as a product of their own lives and a product of the larger evolutionary enterprise known as humanity.

It is through the day to day realization of the nature of the STRUGGLE, that the mind can acheive the peace it needs to give the spirit the power required to make the first infant steps on the way to the permanent relieving of suffering that comes from evolution.

Human children cannot be given a discourse on the nature of walking, they must instead be fed and protected so they can grow until they can observe enough of walking to have the ability to do it without thought, to walk towards the light as a reflex and unstoppable inate drive!
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Have they??????????????????????????
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Have they??????????????????????????
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Yes, it was expected that any teacher worthwhile would reject far more students than accept, at least until the last century.

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Tapping into the allegory of their everyday lives works best, yes.

Its what Jesus did with his gospels and ministry

We are so far advanced now. time is of essence, We have the internet and can reach those with ears to hear and eyes to see

Sure there are casualties along the way of the teachings sparking just a neurosis or ego.

But if its ones timing in the natal chart, it will not fail to take root and grow.

Have to have faith it will work out.

Ive never disclosed the final techniques to anyone though, they will discover it when its ones time.
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Tapping into the allegory of their everyday lives works best, yes.

Its what Jesus did with his gospels and ministry

We are so far advanced now. time is of essence, We have the internet and can reach those with ears to hear and eyes to see

Sure there are casualties along the way of the teachings sparking just a neurosis or ego.

But if its ones timing in the natal chart, it will not fail to take root and grow.

Have to have faith it will work out.

Ive never disclosed the final techniques to anyone though, they will discover it when its ones time.
 Quoting: APOLLO ILLUMINAUGHTY


I am of the opinion that alchemy feeds neurosis without a thorough anaylitical exploration by the alchemist prior to initation.
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This is extremely well written Least. Thanks
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This is extremely well written Least. Thanks
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The farher I go into Kabballah the more I appreciate the rigorous training I received in western experimental psychology and my own explorations of Sufi metaphysical psychology.

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This is extremely well written Least. Thanks
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The farher I go into Kabballah the more I appreciate the rigorous training I received in western experimental psychology and Sufi metaphysical psychology.
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Honestly, this is absolutely brilliant.
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 Quoting: Least Servant


Tapping into the allegory of their everyday lives works best, yes.

Its what Jesus did with his gospels and ministry

We are so far advanced now. time is of essence, We have the internet and can reach those with ears to hear and eyes to see

Sure there are casualties along the way of the teachings sparking just a neurosis or ego.

But if its ones timing in the natal chart, it will not fail to take root and grow.

Have to have faith it will work out.

Ive never disclosed the final techniques to anyone though, they will discover it when its ones time.
 Quoting: APOLLO ILLUMINAUGHTY


I am of the opinion that alchemy feeds neurosis without a thorough anaylitical exploration by the alchemist prior to initation.
 Quoting: Least Servant


Least, chill. lol

Part of it requires training, and part of it just happens. I believe youre thinking through it too hard, lol
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The witches only fool themselves on their way to eternal destruction, hell.

There is only one true spirituality, all the rest are a lie from Satan.
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Rather lengthy. Can't you put this into one paragraph?
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The witches only fool themselves on their way to eternal destruction, hell.

There is only one true spirituality, all the rest are a lie from Satan.
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Rather lengthy. Can't you put this into one paragraph?
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Stop taking people's fucking money and making useless GLP posts that only confuse and dishearten people.
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 Quoting: Least Servant


......
But if its ones timing in the natal chart, it will not fail to take root and grow.

......
 Quoting: APOLLO ILLUMINAUGHTY




I have to agree 100% with this. I started my journey with no "guru". All the info Apollo and others share, is out on the internet for anyone to find.

You can start your journey without a "guru" or without "initiation". Not saying you will reach the "end" without an initiation/guru. But you can start your journey without one.
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Rather lengthy. Can't you put this into one paragraph?
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Stop taking people's fucking money and making useless GLP posts that only confuse and dishearten people.
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Yes, I've noticed exactly what you're talking about in several threads lately. Poor souls who claim to be The One - blinded by ego, they don't realize that making such a claim cancels out the possibility.
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......
But if its ones timing in the natal chart, it will not fail to take root and grow.

......
 Quoting: APOLLO ILLUMINAUGHTY




I have to agree 100% with this. I started my journey with no "guru". All the info Apollo and others share, is out on the internet for anyone to find.

You can start your journey without a "guru" or without "initiation". Not saying you will reach the "end" without an initiation/guru. But you can start your journey without one.
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In the modern world, and probably in the ancient one too, most people are way too crazy and uneducated to make proper use of a guru other than sweeping his floors or filling his food bowl or wine cup, which of course a proper guru has no need for, and so there should be no relationship established along these parameters.

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 Quoting: Least Servant


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But if its ones timing in the natal chart, it will not fail to take root and grow.

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 Quoting: APOLLO ILLUMINAUGHTY




I have to agree 100% with this. I started my journey with no "guru". All the info Apollo and others share, is out on the internet for anyone to find.

You can start your journey without a "guru" or without "initiation". Not saying you will reach the "end" without an initiation/guru. But you can start your journey without one.
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Rev, I think you are missing Least's point. For some, yeah, no problem. But for others, it creates 'problems' that are further and further harder to resolve. It is like democrats. They spout promises of immediate solutions to their woe's, without looking at the long term consequences.
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Feed the ego, starve the delusions, or is it starve the ego, feed the delusions, I can never remember?
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It is also worth noting that while almost eveyone will claim to desire spiritual evolution, most people really desire safety, security, and certainty.

True spiritual evolution frequently requires giving up all three of these things, even for nearly an entire lifetime in some cases.

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It is also worth noting that while almost eveyone will claim to desire spiritual evolution, most people really desire safety, security, and certainty.

True spiritual evolution frequently requires giving up all three of these things, even for nearly an entire lifetime in some cases.
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A linear existence in an illusionary realm that's lasted 16.4billion years, is not something that is classed as a struggle, when that struggle isn't based on anything but the individuals inability to see the illusion for what it is... an illusion. It's not real.

There's no prize for achievement in this illusionary realm, and if your expecting one, i have bad news for you.

The whole idea was to keep your integrity, no matter what happens, otherwise, the illusionary game crafts you into what IT wants you to convert into. Then it's goodbye integrity.

This "struggle" you mention, is the process that a soul HAS TO become part of it's environment in order to be accepted.

No one said you HAD to do this in order to exist, hence everyone ends up killing everyone when these situations arise on this realm. You've seen it daily on the news.

Important advice (although the illusion is nearly finished anyway)

Keep your integrity, no matter what happens.
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It is also worth noting that while almost eveyone will claim to desire spiritual evolution, most people really desire safety, security, and certainty.

True spiritual evolution frequently requires giving up all three of these things, even for nearly an entire lifetime in some cases.
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Least, nothing wrong with that if you had kids..The whole goal is to create a world thats safe for our children. Its the whole prophecy of the Tikkun Olam and the Olam HaBah, Healing of the World to come under Moshiach, At least the jewish people know what people need

Weve already done the two thousand years of "this world is satans, your treasure is in heaven" teachings of Jesus. He was a Gnostic, but still, he didnt take on the example of the physical. He denied the Jewish throne.

Now is the time for the physical..thru a rehash of the spiritual again.

We went from Fishers of men to quenching their thirst thru Aquarius. We all require the means of survival.
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At first look,I was about to take offense, but then read on. You are correct, and anyone whom adopts anorther's journey as their own may be lost.

People often read my experiences and then compare it to movements or some author whom I have never heard of and that is the way I will keep it. Never enter into another mans definition or you won't realize the truth of your own. I have had two major visions of late that if I were in a group or church, they would go ape shit over, angels, God and all, but no, we find our own way.
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The reason that most spiritual teachings have been sheltered away from the common person throughout the histroy of the world is twofold 1) the common person would gain little benefit from evolution systems in a base state lacking the prerequisite condition 2) to preserve the integrity of these systems against the possibility of a person lacking sufficient comprehension and understanding of the material yet with sufficient knowledge to contribute falsehoods and misunderstandings to the larger discourse.

The little known secret to all these practices is that they DO VERY LITTLE to NOTHING for the psychological neurosis of the mind. In fact, one of the traditional great dangers of all these systems and in the whole guru system in general is the danger of markers of spiritual progress being faked or counterfitted by the conscious mind (both with intention and without intention) and the energy freed by the various practices, instead of being applied with integrity to the system for the evolution of the spirit to meet the eternal soul, go to fuel any number of neurotic ego-driven pathologies so commonly noted in the modern world today.

With this in mind, the dangling of the promises of the spiritual systems of the world in the face of one who is suffering NOT with some greater metaphysical dilemna but in fact with the weight of their own mis-programmed (from the faults of society and family) mind DOES THE SUFFERER NO FAVORS but insteads performs the role of a spell in witchcraft to chain their emotional well-being to the attainment of some kind of magickal sigil (which can be a concept or a physical mark), depriving the person of their own power and empowering THE OTHER, whether this be a book, a meditation, an evoked diety, or the guru.

With this in mind, what the average person needs from the evolved souls is not a diatribe on spiritual evolution or the promises of the Great Work, but rather a framing of the issue of each and every person's unique life which makes their suffering SIGNFICANT and IMPORTANT to THEM, an exploration of the origins and causes of their day to day struggles and simple understandings which point to the reasons why the things which come up in the mind and in the world act the way they do upon the individual, both as a product of their own lives and a product of the larger evolutionary enterprise known as humanity.

It is through the day to day realization of the nature of the STRUGGLE, that the mind can acheive the peace it needs to give the spirit the power required to make the first infant steps on the way to the permanent relieving of suffering that comes from evolution.

Human children cannot be given a discourse on the nature of walking, they must instead be fed and protected so they can grow until they can observe enough of walking to have the ability to do it without thought, to walk towards the light as a reflex and unstoppable inate drive!
 Quoting: Least Servant


So say we all...

I am guilty of encouraging several people on this site to "tell us more", it has made me uneasy when I see the reactions of many to the threads of these humans with good intentions, but I still feel the human race needs pushing forward.
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Shit, shit shit it looked so easy, so good (to me). I have a good old friend that if he was to listen and watch what we had obtained would....destroy his whole psychie, if not kill his body, at his own hand.

But I believe the info should be made available to ANYONE who wants to know, learn and progress.

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The reason that most spiritual teachings have been sheltered away from the common person throughout the histroy of the world is twofold 1) the common person would gain little benefit from evolution systems in a base state lacking the prerequisite condition 2) to preserve the integrity of these systems against the possibility of a person lacking sufficient comprehension and understanding of the material yet with sufficient knowledge to contribute falsehoods and misunderstandings to the larger discourse.

The little known secret to all these practices is that they DO VERY LITTLE to NOTHING for the psychological neurosis of the mind. In fact, one of the traditional great dangers of all these systems and in the whole guru system in general is the danger of markers of spiritual progress being faked or counterfitted by the conscious mind (both with intention and without intention) and the energy freed by the various practices, instead of being applied with integrity to the system for the evolution of the spirit to meet the eternal soul, go to fuel any number of neurotic ego-driven pathologies so commonly noted in the modern world today.

With this in mind, the dangling of the promises of the spiritual systems of the world in the face of one who is suffering NOT with some greater metaphysical dilemna but in fact with the weight of their own mis-programmed (from the faults of society and family) mind DOES THE SUFFERER NO FAVORS but insteads performs the role of a spell in witchcraft to chain their emotional well-being to the attainment of some kind of magickal sigil (which can be a concept or a physical mark), depriving the person of their own power and empowering THE OTHER, whether this be a book, a meditation, an evoked diety, or the guru.

With this in mind, what the average person needs from the evolved souls is not a diatribe on spiritual evolution or the promises of the Great Work, but rather a framing of the issue of each and every person's unique life which makes their suffering SIGNFICANT and IMPORTANT to THEM, an exploration of the origins and causes of their day to day struggles and simple understandings which point to the reasons why the things which come up in the mind and in the world act the way they do upon the individual, both as a product of their own lives and a product of the larger evolutionary enterprise known as humanity.

It is through the day to day realization of the nature of the STRUGGLE, that the mind can acheive the peace it needs to give the spirit the power required to make the first infant steps on the way to the permanent relieving of suffering that comes from evolution.

Human children cannot be given a discourse on the nature of walking, they must instead be fed and protected so they can grow until they can observe enough of walking to have the ability to do it without thought, to walk towards the light as a reflex and unstoppable inate drive!
 Quoting: Least Servant


Well said Least, I think the people who need to understand this will and those who wont well it wasn't for them, right?

To make sure I understand where you are coming from let me summerize my understanding of what you said and you can correct me if I am wrong.

1) There are people out there who draw alchemic circles or chant certain mantra to bring about things in their lives and to fulfill their ego. This is because they never had a sound base as to why they are suffering and wanted to make the change. Therefore they are bringing about an energy that now little about and they are misdirecting it which is potentially harmful.

2) Those who actually want to understand these "psuedosciences" must first be able to ask themselves why they are studying them and two need to do their own research instead of following the Youtube Guru.

3) and Last, but not Least



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Least, nothing wrong with that if you had kids..The whole goal is to create a world thats safe for our children.
 Quoting: APOLLO ILLUMINAUGHTY


Buddhism was a radical anti-society philosophy when it was first established.

The buddhists frequently took soldiers from the army, farmers from the field, administrators from the courts, parents from their children and spouses from their others.

A renunciate gave up EVERYTHING, to the acknowledged detriment of society in many cases.

The idea that people can aspire to the same results sitting on a yoga mat at the YMCA for an hour on saturday morning is cruise.

Like everything, the plastic version can not be distinguished from the real in 2011 except by those who have been given, earned, or born with the decoders.

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It is also worth noting that while almost eveyone will claim to desire spiritual evolution, most people really desire safety, security, and certainty.

True spiritual evolution frequently requires giving up all three of these things, even for nearly an entire lifetime in some cases.
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Yeah, so true ! I'm there right now. I don't think I will be able to continue being a slave (work) for long.

I have felt pressure on my forehead for 6 months non stop. My awakening is so fast and I feel stuck in the system. The concept of money is now ridiculous to my eyes.

I'm struggling with how to deal with this without hurting my loved ones who would not understand.
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09/07/2011 03:10 PM
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Re: Request: Will the Spiritually Evolved Beings Please Stop Feeding the Egos
So say we all...

But I believe the info should be made available to ANYONE who wants to know, learn and progress.

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So say we all. (Do you know Almos actualy ad-libbed this?! EPIC!!!)

The problem is that in this day and age almost everyone has heard the promises of this or that, it's all active in the mind, on a subconscious level. The knee-jerk reaction that everyone has to everything is to assume the attainment is FAR FAR away like the stars in hollywood, this is the root programming in our mind, to TVize everything into partipcant and audience.

So really asking someone to break down the basic psychology of their mind is too much to ask, much better for most people who go with an active-disputing scheme, which can be taught incrimentally, paired with single-point mediation for emotional control and to establish the "mediative pause" between stimulus and response, or cognition-emotive action (or just emotion)-physical action (or conscious alteration in cognition, which is an action).

To put it another way: it is very hard for someone to be spiritually evolved when they still respond to the memories of all the mean things their mom said to them when they were 6!
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09/07/2011 03:11 PM
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Re: Request: Will the Spiritually Evolved Beings Please Stop Feeding the Egos
Wow that's quite a bit of ego talking, op

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