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Request: Will the Spiritually Evolved Beings Please Stop Feeding the Egos

 
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We are so far advanced now. time is of essence, We have the internet and can reach those with ears to hear and eyes to see
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Our only advancement in the last few thousand years is that we have faster channels to spread ignorance and delusions.
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3) and Last, but not Least
 Quoting: Spike Spiegel 1520949


Yes, the Satan from western theosophy is the Adversary, Free Will.

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muahahah... damned
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......
But if its ones timing in the natal chart, it will not fail to take root and grow.

......
 Quoting: APOLLO ILLUMINAUGHTY




I have to agree 100% with this. I started my journey with no "guru". All the info Apollo and others share, is out on the internet for anyone to find.

You can start your journey without a "guru" or without "initiation". Not saying you will reach the "end" without an initiation/guru. But you can start your journey without one.
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Rev, I think you are missing Least's point. For some, yeah, no problem. But for others, it creates 'problems' that are further and further harder to resolve. It is like democrats. They spout promises of immediate solutions to their woe's, without looking at the long term consequences.
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Yes, I see his point. I am of the thinking better to "teach" 100 students in hope of reaching 1 or 2, then to teach no one and reach 0.

Not sure which is the lesser of two evils. Confusing the 98 to reach 2, or teaching 0.

Hard questions for sure.

Perhaps it is better to just let the folks that are ready to stumble along their learning path until they reach someone who can help them. As opposed to teaching many.

Tough questions, and a great thread.

:green: for you Servant!
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Wow that's quite a bit of ego talking, op
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Generally speaking, the ego is a tool.

Having shame over the ego is like having shame over your excrement.

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Your no fun at all. Everyone knows you go to college before kindergarten.

Beside those that knew forgot, and spirituality became an intellectual pursuit rather than a experiential one.


But we are beginning to remember. rken
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Not sure which is the lesser of two evils. Confusing the 98 to reach 2, or teaching 0.

Hard questions for sure.

Perhaps it is better to just let the folks that are ready to stumble along their learning path until they reach someone who can help them. As opposed to teaching many.
 Quoting: Revguard


Confusing one to teach another is the metaphysical equivalent of sacrifice.
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...


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But if its ones timing in the natal chart, it will not fail to take root and grow.

......
 Quoting: APOLLO ILLUMINAUGHTY




I have to agree 100% with this. I started my journey with no "guru". All the info Apollo and others share, is out on the internet for anyone to find.

You can start your journey without a "guru" or without "initiation". Not saying you will reach the "end" without an initiation/guru. But you can start your journey without one.
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Rev, I think you are missing Least's point. For some, yeah, no problem. But for others, it creates 'problems' that are further and further harder to resolve. It is like democrats. They spout promises of immediate solutions to their woe's, without looking at the long term consequences.
 Quoting: SickScent


Yes, I see his point. I am of the thinking better to "teach" 100 students in hope of reaching 1 or 2, then to teach no one and reach 0.

Not sure which is the lesser of two evils. Confusing the 98 to reach 2, or teaching 0.

Hard questions for sure.

Perhaps it is better to just let the folks that are ready to stumble along their learning path until they reach someone who can help them. As opposed to teaching many.

Tough questions, and a great thread.

:green: for you Servant!
 Quoting: Revguard


Rev, that is generally true, but there comes a time in which one breaks free from that traditional constraint and jumps in with the masses, Its what Jesus did

Maybe my crucifixion is coming up, lol

But its what I feel compelled to do, Results have been positive sofar.
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Your no fun at all. Everyone knows you go to college before kindergarten.

Beside those that knew forgot, and spirituality became an intellectual pursuit rather than a experiential one.


But we are beginning to remember. rken
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hf

I would say "experiential", but "experimental" means something VERY close! afro
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3) and Last, but not Least
 Quoting: Spike Spiegel 1520949


Yes, the Satan from western theosophy is the Adversary, Free Will.
 Quoting: Least Servant


Free will = Satan?

Sorry you will have to expand
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Honestly, many of us are doing what were preaching against.

Is it the Ego that acts like the High Priests in power with our noses high in the air while we are inside white washed graves with dead mans bones?

I re interpreted my Alchemy post with language in the everyday. Why not?

Many people are much more keen and ready then given credit for.

Least, I dont know why you made this post, but Ill play the role of Prometheus, thank you . Men and women both need the light.
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Free will = Satan?

Sorry you will have to expand
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The details of this relate to specific theurgic workings that are OT here. If you are interested from a technical perspective, investigate the relationship between the 5th sephira Gevurah, the geometry of the pentagram and the placement of the elements, and the angelic spirit of Mars.

From a metaphysical perspective, the Satan from Western philosophy is almost directly analogous to the roll played by the untrained mind or Unpolished Stone from tantra, the comparison is easy to make with the cosmological system removed from consideration, which is no biggie since all cosmologies are externalized maps of the inner soul... as above so below, as without so within.

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Honestly, many of us are doing what were preaching against.

Is it the Ego that acts like the High Priests in power with our noses high in the air while we are inside white washed graves with dead mans bones?

I re interpreted my Alchemy post with language in the everyday. Why not?

Many people are much more keen and ready then given credit for.

Least, I dont know why you made this post, but Ill play the role of Prometheus, thank you . Men and women both need the light.
 Quoting: APOLLO ILLUMINAUGHTY


The truth is NO ONE here really knows what will or won't contribute to another person's life. Therefore presenting the matirial and allowing the individual to seek it out or not is a decision left to them.

The only thing we can know with any accuracy is thyself. To tell another where they are headed and what they are doing is wrong or right, is putting your nose in the air as if you know who that person is and where they are in their spiritual development.

Life is best treated as the fly on the wall. Doing little but observing life around us.

Hindu's would agree.
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The truth is NO ONE here really knows what will or won't contribute to another person's life. Therefore presenting the matirial and allowing the individual to seek it out or not is a decision left to them.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1520949


This is the role of Master, of which none are available to the common person.

Or I should say, none who say "I am a Master". There are many Masters who work under the radar, many of whom do not know who they are.

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when u talk of spiritually evolved beings

exactly what kind of spirituality are you referring to?

explian this spirituality?
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when u talk of spiritually evolved beings

exactly what kind of spirituality are you referring to?

explian this spirituality?
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That was a tongue-in-cheek reference to the false prophets on this website.

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Rather lengthy. Can't you put this into one paragraph?
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Stop taking people's fucking money and making useless GLP posts that only confuse and dishearten people.
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Fucking brilliant! Karma for you.
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Everyone's got their own idea of spirituality these days. When english is not your first language stick with easier vocabulary, your grammer gave me a migraine. True spiritual progress needs no affirmation from another human. pope2
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We are so far advanced now.


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so advanced to who or what?
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Free will = Satan?

Sorry you will have to expand
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The details of this relate to specific theurgic workings that are OT here. If you are interested from a technical perspective, investigate the relationship between the 5th sephira Gevurah, the geometry of the pentagram and the placement of the elements, and the angelic spirit of Mars.

From a metaphysical perspective, the Satan from Western philosophy is almost directly analogous to the roll played by the untrained mind or Unpolished Stone from tantra, the comparison is easy to make with the cosmological system removed from consideration, which is no biggie since all cosmologies are externalized maps of the inner soul... as above so below, as without so within.
 Quoting: Least Servant


Then to remove this cosmological sytem, then would I not need to also remove what it mirrors within?

So you are saying that a mind that would support free will is also untrained or unpolished? More like lead then gold?
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when u talk of spiritually evolved beings

exactly what kind of spirituality are you referring to?

explian this spirituality?
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That was a tongue-in-cheek reference to the false prophets on this website.
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basically you're just pulling things out of your arse?

i love all u spiritually advanced beings rofl

do all these spiritually advanced beings still have to work for a living? pay the bills? eat to stay alive? live under a roof?


you rejects are nothing but normal human beings, and what we all have in common is survival.....full fucking stop

im gonna let you all in a little secret, u knowwhat the meaning of life is? its living it

we live and die just like any other being on this planet
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This is a map of your struggle.

In this moment, you released the tension you build up trying to control everything. You are now one moment closer to total freedom.
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when u talk of spiritually evolved beings

exactly what kind of spirituality are you referring to?

explian this spirituality?
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That was a tongue-in-cheek reference to the false prophets on this website.
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basically you're just pulling things out of your arse?

i love all u spiritually advanced beings rofl

do all these spiritually advanced beings still have to work for a living? pay the bills? eat to stay alive? live under a roof?


you rejects are nothing but normal human beings, and what we all have in common is survival.....full fucking stop

im gonna let you all in a little secret, u knowwhat the meaning of life is? its living it

we live and die just like any other being on this planet
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1539289


A common misundertanding. The attempt to become spiritual awakened is not to put oneself on a pedastal. In fact, what it does is take onself off of the pedalstal. Rid onself of the EGO. Which it seems somewhere down the road your ego was hurt and thus you need to troll and tell others what life is, which is hypocritical is it not?

Think about this if life was simply to just live it, then why the suffering? If life was simply to just live it, then why opinion? If life was simply to just live it then why false value systems?
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So you are saying that a mind that would support free will is also untrained or unpolished? More like lead then gold?
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Ultimately, there is only True Will, which is Divine in origin.

In Kabballah the Kether of the Yechida is the fountainhead of God's energy pouring into the Tree of Life that is the unique expression of every human soul, like a snowflake prism for the Light of All. In tantra, this would be kundalini energy which is seen as inherent to the dharma (path or way) of the Very Subtle Consciousness, the eternal aspect of the soul which acts on the karmic wheel of Samsara and will be the final refined product to "escape" as output.

I said that it is like the Unpolished Stone and the Untrained Mind because in tantra the goal is to defeat the ego utterly, and make it indistinguishable from the rest of conscious reality. So Will and Ego are synonmous in tantra.

Western magick, which is the home of the term Adversary (Satan), sees Will as also the product of Divine expression, however, the Will and Ego are seen as separate entities. The goal in this system is to connect the expression of human will to the Divine Will so as to refine the Ego as a tool for acting as God intends. The Will remains an adversary so long as it is seen apart from the Divine.

Understanding this thoroughly involves rejecting the duality that would presuppose the Satan as an Adversary to be working in opposition to evolution, instead it is necessary to see opposing forces as required for any kind of progress.
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basically you're just pulling things out of your arse?
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as usual :)
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when u talk of spiritually evolved beings

exactly what kind of spirituality are you referring to?

explian this spirituality?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1539289


That was a tongue-in-cheek reference to the false prophets on this website.
 Quoting: Least Servant


basically you're just pulling things out of your arse?

i love all u spiritually advanced beings rofl

do all these spiritually advanced beings still have to work for a living? pay the bills? eat to stay alive? live under a roof?


you rejects are nothing but normal human beings, and what we all have in common is survival.....full fucking stop

im gonna let you all in a little secret, u knowwhat the meaning of life is? its living it

we live and die just like any other being on this planet
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1539289


A common misundertanding. The attempt to become spiritual awakened is not to put oneself on a pedastal. In fact, what it does is take onself off of the pedalstal. Rid onself of the EGO. Which it seems somewhere down the road your ego was hurt and thus you need to troll and tell others what life is, which is hypocritical is it not?

Think about this if life was simply to just live it, then why the suffering? If life was simply to just live it, then why opinion? If life was simply to just live it then why false value systems?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1520949


the meaning of life is just to live it
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So you are saying that a mind that would support free will is also untrained or unpolished? More like lead then gold?
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Ultimately, there is only True Will, which is Divine in origin.

In Kabballah the Kether of the Yechida is the fountainhead of God's energy pouring into the Tree of Life that is the unique expression of every human soul, like a snowflake prism for the Light of All. In tantra, this would be kundalini energy which is seen as inherent to the dharma (path or way) of the Very Subtle Consciousness, the eternal aspect of the soul which acts on the karmic wheel of Samsara and will be the final refined product to "escape" as output.

I said that it is like the Unpolished Stone and the Untrained Mind because in tantra the goal is to defeat the ego utterly, and make it indistinguishable from the rest of conscious reality. So Will and Ego are synonmous in tantra.

Western magick, which is the home of the term Adversary (Satan), sees Will as also the product of Divine expression, however, the Will and Ego are seen as separate entities. The goal in this system is to connect the expression of human will to the Divine Will so as to refine the Ego as a tool for acting as God intends. The Will remains an adversary so long as it is seen apart from the Divine.

Understanding this thoroughly involves rejecting the duality that would presuppose the Satan as an Adversary to be working in opposition to evolution, instead it is necessary to see opposing forces as required for any kind of progress.
 Quoting: Least Servant


I understand what you are saying, although I have not read the texts for myself and cannot disagree or agree with the interpretation. What would you suggest as the book to begin with?

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go within and stop this nonsense babbling.
bla bla bla bla bla bla bla.
conceptual prisoners.
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It is also worth noting that while almost eveyone will claim to desire spiritual evolution, most people really desire safety, security, and certainty.
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True spiritual evolution frequently requires giving up all three of these things, even for nearly an entire lifetime in some cases.
 Quoting: Least Servant


For many of us who grew up in poverty, the unusual life is the one we now live of abundance. Having experienced both and agreeing that when stripped to the bare essence of day to day existence it is then when one can really make contact with their higher spiritual element.

With that said, as a parent, it is impossible to forsake security and thrust my children into the frightening, vulnerable existence I once lived. They do understand there is a far greater force at work than that we percieve with our 5 senses; my eldest sees auras & the youngest senses other dimensional presences. I try to keep them open.

There are some who are not intended to be awake in this lifetime. Perhaps their role is for us to learn perserverance, I do not know. I try to gently nudge people in a manner that if they awaken they do not realize it was from my nudging but attribute it to their own journey. Not knowing the inner workings of another's mind or soul makes it impossible to determine the path they are on.

Like you, I appreciate the Three Initiates and do believe the teacher will appear when the student is ready.


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Nice post,and what I try to strive for every day I wake up, which is NOT always easy...the old adage
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