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Request: Will the Spiritually Evolved Beings Please Stop Feeding the Egos

 
Least Servant (OP)

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If you don't have Jesus, you are not spiritually evolved.
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I don't know what this means.

Can you explain it to me in as sophisticated terms as you can (I'm pretty smart usually)?

Thanks! hf
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Yes, I've noticed exactly what you're talking about in several threads lately. Poor souls who claim to be The One - blinded by ego, they don't realize that making such a claim cancels out the possibility.
 Quoting: Da Purple Chicken


So true. There are also those who infer that they are "the one" by posting such things as consciousness testing. This implies that they themselves are more advanced than others so they have some special ability to test how enlightened someone else is. One such soul seemed quite genuine but the other picked up his game and copied it. This person incessantly posted in one older, completely unrelated thread about how enlightened he/she surely must be. Then, when someone would attack that person and point out their flaw, he/she would vigorously attack back. Didn't sound too enlightened to me.
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Enjoying your thread Least!


AC,
Are you speaking about me? There are not that many LOC testing threads here that I have seen. If not, please disregard. It is not my nature to attack so I will look for other threads as I only thought there were a couple!

I have a thread that tests consciousness levels based on the Map of Consciousness which David Hawkins established decades ago. On my thread I encourage everyone to learn to use the method and test for themselves or test my testing. Everyone has that ability and can do it. It just takes practice and confidence. It's not a privilege or something that only enlightened people can do. A 6 year old can test. The attractor fields are available for everyone to tap into. No enlightenment required! ;)

I am in constant awe of people here. I learn from EVERYONE!
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Even yourself?
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That's it. Bye bye financial security. I talked to my GF and she actually supports me in opening a Reiki practice. It seems crazy that I'm quitting a good paying job, but it has to be done. :)
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It is through the day to day realization of the nature of the STRUGGLE, that the mind can acheive the peace it needs to give the spirit the power required to make the first infant steps on the way to the permanent relieving of suffering that comes from evolution.

 Quoting: Least Servant


Isn't it kind of egotistical for you to suggest you know anything about Self Realization?
 Quoting: orb


I don't know, is it? Why don't you tell me so you can be the egotistical one here and that leaves me open to get blamed for something else. chuckle

Least can i ask you,don't know if you can help,but why would someone receive something they were not ready for,or even looking for,years ago i was lifted involuntary up out of my chair and on to my toes,then hit in the forehead by a hollow beam of golden metallic feeling light,which had a presence to it that started to rip through my body making me feel like i was turning to gold,i think my ego got in the way,as i related it to something i didn't believe in,as my arms were being lifted and stretched out to my sides,if you get the picture,and i said no,and the energy withdrew from me,and my movements went in reverse of how i was lifted up,plonking me back down in the chair,what I'm trying to say is,why would something like that happen,if you are not ready for it?
 Quoting: pauldamo


This sounds like a spontanous kundalini awaking, which are well documented occurances, like the one described by the poster below.

These can be quite disorienting if you are unfamiliar with the whole thing when it happens. hf

My blinders came off when my pineal gland activated and from then on, i knew i was on my way.....and this ride is just about over.......
Kinda sad that this whole WORLD is simply built on lies and keeping others down so others can use them for their dirty deeds, but i guess the ONE has his reasons .......
But anyway....soon ....there is going to be alot of cell-e-brating going on as many of us graduate from here......was fun knowing you guys.......peace and love to all!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!blwkss
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Longtime reader, first-time commenter: This is the very first thread that I have read to completion. What a wonderful discussion!

Expressing gratitude,

Shine Bright.
 Quoting: zendeviant


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It is also worth noting that while almost eveyone will claim to desire spiritual evolution, most people really desire safety, security, and certainty.

True spiritual evolution frequently requires giving up all three of these things, even for nearly an entire lifetime in some cases.
 Quoting: Least Servant


Aren't safety and security the same thing?
 Quoting: overmind


I think safety is the provision of all that is necessary and security is the assurance it's not going to be taken away. Admittedly, I gave into my poetic instinct in choosing my diction for this post over my desire of precise vocabulary. chuckle
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You know, if everything hadn't been hidden from the "common person" since the beginning, we would probably be in a completely different set of circumstances..

The truth is the truth, and should be available to every living soul from start to finish.

And those who don't think so are suffering from an egotistic "elite" position, whatever their reasons.
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Right on.. good observation and on EGO let's be clear.. ego is a survival instinct about as useful as knowing how to start a fire with two sticks..now a days not so much but a good TOOL to know just in case... "Drunken Monkey" is a form that is taught to the advanced student. It's purpose is to throw off the attacker with just enough amusement and bad form so when the attacker let's down their guard they can be defeated. So many "Masters" cannot or will not release Ego because it is all that props them up. To be truly in control you have to know how to be (or look) out of control. Try staggering like a drunk but be sober.. that will help with the imagery. Laughter too works to clear the system.. HO HO HO ... HO HO HO.. HO HO HO! Everyone now! HO HO HO!!!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1371470


Sounds like a page from the Sufi textbook. :)

They are the ones who taught me humor, starting first with the ability to genuinely and deeply laugh at myself, in all my most ridiculous.

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The truth is the truth, and should be available to every living soul from start to finish.
 Quoting: Celia D.


This is not how God built the Universe, and I suspect the reason is because this would simply program a bunch of clones who mimick enlightenment.

The lessons only write to your soul, when you hold the pen.

God knows this. Idol1

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The reason that most spiritual teachings have been sheltered away from the common person throughout the histroy of the world is twofold 1) the common person would gain little benefit from evolution systems in a base state lacking the prerequisite condition 2) to preserve the integrity of these systems against the possibility of a person lacking sufficient comprehension and understanding of the material yet with sufficient knowledge to contribute falsehoods and misunderstandings to the larger discourse.

The little known secret to all these practices is that they DO VERY LITTLE to NOTHING for the psychological neurosis of the mind. In fact, one of the traditional great dangers of all these systems and in the whole guru system in general is the danger of markers of spiritual progress being faked or counterfitted by the conscious mind (both with intention and without intention) and the energy freed by the various practices, instead of being applied with integrity to the system for the evolution of the spirit to meet the eternal soul, go to fuel any number of neurotic ego-driven pathologies so commonly noted in the modern world today.

With this in mind, the dangling of the promises of the spiritual systems of the world in the face of one who is suffering NOT with some greater metaphysical dilemna but in fact with the weight of their own mis-programmed (from the faults of society and family) mind DOES THE SUFFERER NO FAVORS but insteads performs the role of a spell in witchcraft to chain their emotional well-being to the attainment of some kind of magickal sigil (which can be a concept or a physical mark), depriving the person of their own power and empowering THE OTHER, whether this be a book, a meditation, an evoked diety, or the guru.

With this in mind, what the average person needs from the evolved souls is not a diatribe on spiritual evolution or the promises of the Great Work, but rather a framing of the issue of each and every person's unique life which makes their suffering SIGNFICANT and IMPORTANT to THEM, an exploration of the origins and causes of their day to day struggles and simple understandings which point to the reasons why the things which come up in the mind and in the world act the way they do upon the individual, both as a product of their own lives and a product of the larger evolutionary enterprise known as humanity.

It is through the day to day realization of the nature of the STRUGGLE, that the mind can acheive the peace it needs to give the spirit the power required to make the first infant steps on the way to the permanent relieving of suffering that comes from evolution.

Human children cannot be given a discourse on the nature of walking, they must instead be fed and protected so they can grow until they can observe enough of walking to have the ability to do it without thought, to walk towards the light as a reflex and unstoppable inate drive!
 Quoting: Least Servant


Seeing the being in our children (which includes adults) allows the truth to simply flow the way the individual shall grow in his or her own special way...it is through compassion that this is understood...patience, then, naturally leads the way...
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it is through compassion that this is understood
 Quoting: ctruth333


Compassion is wanting the limitless souls of the universe to never suffer.

Love is wanting the limitless souls of the universe to find happiness in their unique natures.


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The truth is the truth, and should be available to every living soul from start to finish.
 Quoting: Celia D.


This is not how God built the Universe, and I suspect the reason is because this would simply program a bunch of clones who mimick enlightenment.

The lessons only write to your soul, when you hold the pen.

God knows this. Idol1
 Quoting: Least Servant


We can't possibly know that.
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I am in constant awe of people here. I learn from EVERYONE!


Even yourself?


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Good question! Yes.... I learn that when I am having thoughts or take an action that does not serve me, or others in ways that are not constructive, I take a hit. By that I mean, could be my blood pressure rises, illness, trip and fall, bang my knee... etc. My lessons can be manifested that way - through the body and or mind. Little things that I can reflect back on that reminds me to make a change as I prefer to kind to myself as well as others. Very simplified, but I hope that makes sense.

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it is through compassion that this is understood
 Quoting: ctruth333


Compassion is wanting the limitless souls of the universe to never suffer.

Love is wanting the limitless souls of the universe to find happiness in their unique natures.

 Quoting: Least Servant


Very nice, but that is, of course, your opinion.
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go within and stop this nonsense babbling.
bla bla bla bla bla bla bla.
conceptual prisoners.
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You know, if everything hadn't been hidden from the "common person" since the beginning, we would probably be in a completely different set of circumstances..

The truth is the truth, and should be available to every living soul from start to finish.

And those who don't think so are suffering from an egotistic "elite" position, whatever their reasons.
 Quoting: Celia D.


The Truth is also the Way.......
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You know, if everything hadn't been hidden from the "common person" since the beginning, we would probably be in a completely different set of circumstances..

The truth is the truth, and should be available to every living soul from start to finish.

And those who don't think so are suffering from an egotistic "elite" position, whatever their reasons.
 Quoting: Celia D.


The Truth is also the Way.......
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Probably. And the signposts would be clear to everyone.
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The truth is the truth, and should be available to every living soul from start to finish.
 Quoting: Celia D.


This is not how God built the Universe, and I suspect the reason is because this would simply program a bunch of clones who mimick enlightenment.

The lessons only write to your soul, when you hold the pen.

God knows this. Idol1
 Quoting: Least Servant


We can't possibly know that.
 Quoting: Celia D.


Well, when we don't try, we do know for sure that it is not possible.


it is through compassion that this is understood
 Quoting: ctruth333


Compassion is wanting the limitless souls of the universe to never suffer.

Love is wanting the limitless souls of the universe to find happiness in their unique natures.

 Quoting: Least Servant


Very nice, but that is, of course, your opinion.
 Quoting: Celia D.


It's actually a definition of terms in a technical system that is thousands of years old, but you can make this my opinion if you so desire.

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it is through compassion that this is understood
 Quoting: ctruth333


Compassion is wanting the limitless souls of the universe to never suffer.

Love is wanting the limitless souls of the universe to find happiness in their unique natures.

 Quoting: Least Servant


HAHA - I love how this thread morphed, naturally, into you you teaching... :)
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it is through compassion that this is understood
 Quoting: ctruth333


Compassion is wanting the limitless souls of the universe to never suffer.

Love is wanting the limitless souls of the universe to find happiness in their unique natures.

 Quoting: Least Servant


HAHA - I love how this thread morphed, naturally, into you you teaching... :)
 Quoting: Poster 8398


Umm... this is not even initiatory knowledge, just basic definition of terms in English.
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If you don't have Jesus, you are not spiritually evolved.
 Quoting: Lisa*Lisa


I don't know what this means.

Can you explain it to me in as sophisticated terms as you can (I'm pretty smart usually)?

Thanks! hf
 Quoting: Least Servant


I believe She is referring to the personal relationship aka communion with Jesus the Christ, God his Father and their Holy Spirit. They do adopt if one is willing to be adopted, and they do remove all unwanted spinal attachments (possessions) when willing to surrender to the will of God aka hitting human moral bottom and indicating to God what we have become.......it changes things between the believer and the Believed, the Lover and the Loved. A bond forms that is eternal, communion allows God to share his delight with the individual believer. It is FREE and it is sublime! Read the 4 Gospels of Jesus Christ and decide.
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it is through compassion that this is understood
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Compassion is wanting the limitless souls of the universe to never suffer.

Love is wanting the limitless souls of the universe to find happiness in their unique natures.

 Quoting: Least Servant


HAHA - I love how this thread morphed, naturally, into you you teaching... :)
 Quoting: Poster 8398


Umm... this is not even initiatory knowledge, just basic definition of terms in English.
 Quoting: Least Servant


I think you have spent too long in the way of learning, if you think "common" people see it that "basic" way.
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If you don't have Jesus, you are not spiritually evolved.
 Quoting: Lisa*Lisa


I don't know what this means.

Can you explain it to me in as sophisticated terms as you can (I'm pretty smart usually)?

Thanks! hf
 Quoting: Least Servant


I believe She is referring to the personal relationship aka communion with Jesus the Christ, God his Father and their Holy Spirit. They do adopt if one is willing to be adopted, and they do remove all unwanted spinal attachments (possessions) when willing to surrender to the will of God aka hitting human moral bottom and indicating to God what we have become.......it changes things between the believer and the Believed, the Lover and the Loved. A bond forms that is eternal, communion allows God to share his delight with the individual believer. It is FREE and it is sublime! Read the 4 Gospels of Jesus Christ and decide.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1371470


Thanks for explaining it to me in these terms... sounds like the standard alchemical path to me, I think I've got this one covered in other ways! hf

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If you don't have Jesus, you are not spiritually evolved.
 Quoting: Lisa*Lisa


I don't know what this means.

Can you explain it to me in as sophisticated terms as you can (I'm pretty smart usually)?

Thanks! hf
 Quoting: Least Servant


I believe She is referring to the personal relationship aka communion with Jesus the Christ, God his Father and their Holy Spirit. They do adopt if one is willing to be adopted, and they do remove all unwanted spinal attachments (possessions) when willing to surrender to the will of God aka hitting human moral bottom and indicating to God what we have become.......it changes things between the believer and the Believed, the Lover and the Loved. A bond forms that is eternal, communion allows God to share his delight with the individual believer. It is FREE and it is sublime! Read the 4 Gospels of Jesus Christ and decide.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1371470


It's amazing how many people say the same thing in so many different ways.

Truely a mysterious feat of human ingenuity, if there ever was one!

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I think you have spent too long in the way of learning, if you think "common" people see it that "basic" way.
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Well, at a certain point you have to stop pretending like Western philosophy before Kant and Nietche that spending ALL your time twirling on the most basic epistemological issues is some how progressing. hmm

Would I have a better chance of getting through and getting this thread to 100 pages if I promised the secrets of the Sufic Gypsy Kings of Lemuria passed down through 1000 generations, presliced and ready for juicing? lmao
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The truth is the truth, and should be available to every living soul from start to finish.
 Quoting: Celia D.


This is not how God built the Universe, and I suspect the reason is because this would simply program a bunch of clones who mimick enlightenment.

The lessons only write to your soul, when you hold the pen.

God knows this. Idol1
 Quoting: Least Servant


We can't possibly know that.
 Quoting: Celia D.


Well, when we don't try, we do know for sure that it is not possible.


it is through compassion that this is understood
 Quoting: ctruth333


Compassion is wanting the limitless souls of the universe to never suffer.

Love is wanting the limitless souls of the universe to find happiness in their unique natures.

 Quoting: Least Servant


Very nice, but that is, of course, your opinion.
 Quoting: Celia D.


It's actually a definition of terms in a technical system that is thousands of years old, but you can make this my opinion if you so desire.
 Quoting: Least Servant

Of course. Well, you apparently already know all the answers to reality. So, how is your life fundamentally better than mine?
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Of course. Well, you apparently already know all the answers to reality. So, how is your life fundamentally better than mine?
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Better question, why do you care how my life is?
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Of course. Well, you apparently already know all the answers to reality. So, how is your life fundamentally better than mine?
 Quoting: Celia D.


Better question, why do you care how my life is?
 Quoting: Least Servant


I don't.

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I think you have spent too long in the way of learning, if you think "common" people see it that "basic" way.
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Well, at a certain point you have to stop pretending like Western philosophy before Kant and Nietche that spending ALL your time twirling on the most basic epistemological issues is some how progressing. hmm

Would I have a better chance of getting through and getting this thread to 100 pages if I promised the secrets of the Sufic Gypsy Kings of Lemuria passed down through 1000 generations, presliced and ready for juicing? lmao
 Quoting: Least Servant


1. I agree on this, and will watch for the cycle in myself.

2. I have absolutly no idea whatsoever, Let me read for a few years/decades and I'll get back to you. ;)

In all honestly, people find what they want to find, and leave the rest. It takes study, discipline, and a little bit of an epiphany to move past the basic human nature of it. Even more so in these days where almost everyting is at your finger tips, but still requires time and will.

Speaking of Western thought, I have some Native American text in relation to FreeMasonry to keep going through...

Not to self - Turn off computer. ;)

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Of course. Well, you apparently already know all the answers to reality. So, how is your life fundamentally better than mine?
 Quoting: Celia D.


Better question, why do you care how my life is?
 Quoting: Least Servant


I don't.
 Quoting: Celia D.


Then you can bugger off!
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"For the wisdom of this world is foolishness with God. For it is written, He takes the wise in their own craftiness." (1 Corinthians 3:19)
The false gospel: If you don't continually perform, you're out.

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