Request: Will the Spiritually Evolved Beings Please Stop Feeding the Egos

I understand what you are saying, although I have not read the texts for myself and cannot disagree or agree with the interpretation. What would you suggest as the book to begin with?

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I understand what you are saying, although I have not read the texts for myself and cannot disagree or agree with the interpretation. What would you suggest as the book to begin with?

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Will the Spiritually Evolved Beings Please Stop Feeding the Egos?

With that said, as a parent, it is impossible to forsake security and thrust my children into the frightening, vulnerable existence I once lived. They do understand there is a far greater force at work than that we percieve with our 5 senses; my eldest sees auras & the youngest senses other dimensional presences. I try to keep them open.

You fail to realize that true spiritually evolved do not have issues with egos. If you are observing ego issues across multitude of teachings/gurus out there, it means they are all crap. Results speak for themselves. You need to find another avenue and let go of all you think you know so far cause it doesn't work obviously.

If you are drawn to the Tantric path I would recommend A Guide to the Bodhisattva Way of Life by Santideva and Wheels of Life by Anodea Judith.

If you are drawn to Kabballah I would recommend The Tree of Life by Israel Regardie.

Regardless of which path you choose or none at all, I recommend reading everything you can find by the Sufi Idries Shah, his book The Sufis touches on a secret history of the world seldom discussed outside of places like the lodges of orders and GLP. Learning How to Learn, by Shah is also excellent and more to the point for those interested in Sufi metaphysical psychology.

If someone were to understand thoroughly 1% of what is in these books, he or she would truly be godlike in aspiration.

Just ordered "The Sufis" and "Seeker After Truth". Thank you.

Rev, I think you are missing Least's point. For some, yeah, no problem. But for others, it creates 'problems' that are further and further harder to resolve. It is like democrats. They spout promises of immediate solutions to their woe's, without looking at the long term consequences.

The reason that most spiritual teachings have been sheltered away from the common person throughout the histroy of the world is twofold 1) the common person would gain little benefit from evolution systems in a base state lacking the prerequisite condition 2) to preserve the integrity of these systems against the possibility of a person lacking sufficient comprehension and understanding of the material yet with sufficient knowledge to contribute falsehoods and misunderstandings to the larger discourse.

The little known secret to all these practices is that they DO VERY LITTLE to NOTHING for the psychological neurosis of the mind. In fact, one of the traditional great dangers of all these systems and in the whole guru system in general is the danger of markers of spiritual progress being faked or counterfitted by the conscious mind (both with intention and without intention) and the energy freed by the various practices, instead of being applied with integrity to the system for the evolution of the spirit to meet the eternal soul, go to fuel any number of neurotic ego-driven pathologies so commonly noted in the modern world today.

With this in mind, the dangling of the promises of the spiritual systems of the world in the face of one who is suffering NOT with some greater metaphysical dilemna but in fact with the weight of their own mis-programmed (from the faults of society and family) mind DOES THE SUFFERER NO FAVORS but insteads performs the role of a spell in witchcraft to chain their emotional well-being to the attainment of some kind of magickal sigil (which can be a concept or a physical mark), depriving the person of their own power and empowering THE OTHER, whether this be a book, a meditation, an evoked diety, or the guru.

With this in mind, what the average person needs from the evolved souls is not a diatribe on spiritual evolution or the promises of the Great Work, but rather a framing of the issue of each and every person's unique life which makes their suffering SIGNFICANT and IMPORTANT to THEM, an exploration of the origins and causes of their day to day struggles and simple understandings which point to the reasons why the things which come up in the mind and in the world act the way they do upon the individual, both as a product of their own lives and a product of the larger evolutionary enterprise known as humanity.

It is through the day to day realization of the nature of the STRUGGLE, that the mind can acheive the peace it needs to give the spirit the power required to make the first infant steps on the way to the permanent relieving of suffering that comes from evolution.

Human children cannot be given a discourse on the nature of walking, they must instead be fed and protected so they can grow until they can observe enough of walking to have the ability to do it without thought, to walk towards the light as a reflex and unstoppable inate drive!

I frequently had to take breaks from reading "The Sufis" because certain passages made me hallucinate.

It's awesome.

Good thread Least Servant!

I can see this possibility.

Looking forward to it. Have felt like I'm just drifting last 6 months, need to start moving forward again.

Poster, I think about this a lot nowadays. I am given information now, that I do not understand (symbolism and 'labels') that I find myself stepping back from. This is stuff that I am told I shouldn't say where I got it, or who gave it to me. It is supposedly powerful stuff, but I do not mess with it because I may be tempted to try something, yet might not know of the consequences...ie 'Black Majick'... I don't know, so I keep it at a distance until I 'understand it', and then I will make my decision.

Most people wouldn't give a shit, and just do it if presented with it, you know. Maybe not most, but you know what I mean.

Anyway, just wanted to give a personal experience concerning this 'idea'.

That was a tongue-in-cheek reference to the false prophets on this website.

LOL, honest, its not up to you to judge, I judge no one, I could be wrong about someone and who am I to say?

Watch yourself Least, Its all about thyself. remember

Wow that's quite a bit of ego talking, op

Wow that's quite a bit of ego talking, op

Buddhism was a radical anti-society philosophy when it was first established.

The buddhists frequently took soldiers from the army, farmers from the field, administrators from the courts, parents from their children and spouses from their others.

A renunciate gave up EVERYTHING, to the acknowledged detriment of society in many cases.

The idea that people can aspire to the same results sitting on a yoga mat at the YMCA for an hour on saturday morning is .

Like everything, the plastic version can not be distinguished from the real in 2011 except by those who have been given, earned, or born with the decoders.

I'm not tapping at egg shells for I have no desire to clean up yoke.

At least I see it and (Ooops damn) LOL


Best Wishes

Theres a print thats my favorite, the eggs crack and the yolk that comes out is the Sun. =) A initiate runs from the cracked egg, being born from it,

It has to crack sometime.

I totally agree with this.....and never thought of it this way.
But......had it not been for others who made it known to me (even though it was before i was ready for the info) i could not have stored the info for future reference.....so.....its kinda like splitting hairs!

The witches only fool themselves on their way to eternal destruction, hell.

There is only one true spirituality, all the rest are a lie from Satan.

As long as the Hermit isn't the one laying the eggs! hehe

Since there are few acknowledged masters, the potential student needs to be aware for himself. Really, this is an unfair position, previously one could give all faith to a guru because the process of being accepted into such a position where one would have a guru would vet both sides in the process... :\

Who was the Guru To Buddha or Jesus?

You do not NEED a Guru... in fact the GURU you can never attain.

You can only attain YOUR SELF!