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It is astounding the music industry hasn't outright collapsed yet | |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1364022 United States09/08/2011 12:34 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | i have to laugh a little at your idea that bands don't need a major label, smaller label for that matter, to do promotion. you have to be kidding. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1539788 do you have any idea how much promotion a major label can get for a band? the amount of money spent on ads, booking them on jay leno or saturday night live, major festivals, radio airplay, tv, movie soundtracks. the power of major labels is huge. when was the last time you saw an independant band on tv, or one of their videos on mtv, or vh1. gimmie a break dude. they can promote a band,-----internationally for god sake. promoting a band with the internet very, very hard. you think some indie band with some web savvy is going to reach as many people as being booked on satuday night live? or playing on every radio station in the world 20 times a day 7 days a week. the guy from radiohead no longer needs a major label. his band is well known (because of all the money and promotion of being on a major label) now their contract is up and they can do it themselves because they are already rich and successful and can reach their fans themselves. his advicde is idiocy. a band should sign with a major label if for no other reason than they will get a huge advance, probably at least a million dollars, which they never have to pay back, even if their record bombs, which it likely will. they will also get more exposure and tour support than they could ever get with years, even decades of doing it on their own. bro, the bands i listen to now are different from the ones i listened to yesteryear and i learn about new bands via pandora, lastfm.com, slacker radio and grooveshark and then study up on them online. and folks don't turn to the TV for music like they used to. Sat. night live? Ok. still has a few viewers. but customized TV and customized radio are the way, bro, the way of the future. you can't deny that. all these things spell doom for the major label. now the small label, the mid-sized label, it may still be viable. but the big labels are definitely dinosaurs. pindulum is swinging back, bro, from the global to the local. soon it's going to only be local food in the stores (pricey gas will end the 100 mile salad), local solutions to local problems (big gubm't is doing all the budget cutting and laying off; no more federal response to the local flood), and local music to entertain. i'm envisioning a world where no band can fill a stadium b/c there are too, way too, many other options out there and folks are broke and it's just too damn expensive to drive a tour bus around the country. just sayin' between facebook, pandora, and an unemployed teenage generation, big bands and big labels are relics. yeah, there are exceptions to the rule now, but when the dollar crashes and people are broke for real, you'll see the world i'm describing. it'll be a local world. you'll be thankful to have a neighbor who can strum to sit by the fire with, that's the future of music  But the bands featured in that mode are making money through that same mode...pandora...somehow the bands are reaching an audience through that mode and gaining recognition and in turn are making money at shows...There are a massive amount of people who enjoy live shows.. especially the younger demographic you are speaking of. I on the other hand have already been had...I don't go to many shows anymore but I was a regular on the concert scene in my younger years...they made their money off of me already in concerts, cds and really expensive t-shirts that I would cut up and wear. OP, I know it's rude but how old are you? I am 44 so I am past my concert going era, unless it's at a small venue I am NOT GOING anymore, the barfing kids annoy me :) I really do think you have a point but you just may be on the outer edge of the concert going which indeed makes these bands money, and their merchandise as well.  |
| Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 1352525 United States09/08/2011 12:37 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | the music industry is in complete control; by a hidden to most, force.. most artist are very unoriginal and stick to predictable formats. the music industry has turned into something completely not about music to survive. the money from advertisements, tv endorsements, and other royalties feed the music industry. Quoting: RA 796398 royalties and the like can't prop up the whole damn industry. they HAVE to sell shit. and nobody is buying. nobody is advertising on radio. nobody is paying for music. and shows simply don't sell out anymore. the same economic forces that have pilloried the NFL are taking down the mainstream music labels. maybe not entirely just yet. but it's coming fast. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1364022 United States09/08/2011 12:41 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
| Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 1352525 United States09/08/2011 12:42 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I really do think you have a point but you just may be on the outer edge of the concert going which indeed makes these bands money, and their merchandise as well. Quoting: neptune2012 yeah i think you're prolly spot on that the last life raft for the labels is the concert-goer dollar. still, man, for how much longer. and shows simply don't sell out. and the demographic that goes is getting more and more broke ... etc. i'm not arguing too much with you here. i'm simply saying the trend is down down down and will continue that way for hte big labels and bands. yeah i'm older now but would still go to shows if they were affordable, which they aren't to me |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1238249  Germany09/08/2011 12:45 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
| Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 1352525 United States09/08/2011 12:47 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 796398 United States09/08/2011 12:52 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | royalties and the like can't prop up the whole damn industry. they HAVE to sell shit. and nobody is buying. nobody is advertising on radio. nobody is paying for music. and shows simply don't sell out anymore. the same economic forces that have pilloried the NFL are taking down the mainstream music labels. maybe not entirely just yet. but it's coming fast. royalties and the like do prop up the current industry and have for a long time.. live shows for mid size to major artist are very profitable, maybe you been on glp too long op. the music industry is just like the nfl, or any other bread and circus portion of this system. the music industry is a fractal image of the complete whole.. the bigger statement is.. What industry isn't on the brink of collapse? I'll tell ya, Mcdonalds and Charmin toilet paper! |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 802143  Canada09/08/2011 12:54 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1539788 United States09/08/2011 01:23 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | your point about gas prices...well it will have the opposite effect of the one you state. the cost of gas will make it impossible for smaller bands to tour...only the big acts will be able to go from city to city... if you think people go to small local shows you are kidding yourself. ask 100 people the last time they saw live music and see how many tell you they went to a local band and not a major concert venue. maybe two people at most. and i dont mean you and your freinds, but 100 strangers on the street. they will almost all mention the last big concert of ACDC or Lady Gaga or George Straight or whomever. one last thing, when the economy goes bad, people actually spend more on entertainment. not less. they are depressed and need to feel good. it happened in the depression, the entertainment industry boomed. i don't mean to piss you off or anything, but almost every point you have made is just wrong. you are thinking what you would do. and you are not the average person. your musical taste is better than the average person. most people like crappy music. they are not even aware of anything not mainstream |
