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| Hmmmmmmmmmmmm User ID: 1520501 United States09/09/2011 12:43 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Just reported on local LA KCAL Channel 9 news that the cause was an employee moving equipment...WTF???? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1071143 Really, that seems like a load of BS! What about the explosion reported by people near the Salton Sea? I doubt some dumb bonehead would accidentally move equipment on one of the hotter days of the year and it would take out the entire power grid extending into AZ and Mexico! Our best guess on page 4 of this other thread: Thread: Breaking -New York and DC Going Under HOMELAND SECURITY ALERT & Multi City Multi State Sudden Power Outage (Page 4) ...is that the massive power outage was initiated when there was a geothermal explosion in/near the Salton Sea. There were multiple witnesses who heard a very loud explosion in that location. The idea is that the geothermal explosion was so hot that the heat charged the grid up and blew it. The explosion came from what channel 3 (multiple viewers) said was the abandoned area near the Salton Sea that is on this video. This area is the southern tip of the San Andreas fault in the salton Seismic Zone, as well as the Cerro Prieto Geothermal area and the Brawley Seismic Zone and geothermal area. [link to earthquake.usgs.gov] Salton Sea explosion was very likely NOT geothermal but MILITARY they have a massive bomb range at Salton Sea, with many unexploded munitions, here is the full US Army report on the abandoned munitions, likelihood of their danger, and how to remove them... ftp://ftp.usace.army.mil/pub/spl/fuds/J09CA019001_01.09_0500_a.pdf And here is an excerpt from chapter 4: MUNITIONS AND EXPLOSIVES OF CONCERN FINDINGS 4.1 GENERAL INFORMATION This chapter details the overall Data Quality Objectives (DQOs), MEC history, and inspection activities for the site. Based on a review of historical records, previous studies, and current conditions at the Salton Sea BT #60 site, it was determined by the TPP Team that there is a potential for MEC and/or MD to be present at the site. The TPP Team agreed that the chemical composition of MEC and potential MC would be consistent for the evaluation of all Salton Sea water targets and would include all potential MEC currently identified for the individual Salton Sea water targets. 4.1.1 Qualitative Reconnaissance As agreed to at the TPP Meeting, no QR or MC sampling was conducted within MRS01 – Practice Bomb Range #1 or MRS02 – Practice Bomb Range #2 because both are under water.     ~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~* "All those who wander are not lost" - J.R.R. Tolkien ~ Occasionally I dig up some actually useful information. Good Karma Points are gratefully accepted! ~ "Why do people say 'grow some balls'? Balls are weak and sensitive. If you wanna get tough, grow a vagina. These things take a pounding." --Betty White Potential boyfriends: Please don't buy me flowers or Diamonds. Buy me more preps or backup Berkey filters. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1298967 United States09/09/2011 12:43 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Shonone, Calif Radiation monitoring site shows massive radiation spike at 10AM this morning. Quoting: Beanandginger Suggest everyone start looking at radiation levels. [link to cemp.dri.edu] Hour Wind Air Relative Barometric Gamma Total of Direction Gust Temperature Humidity Pressure Radiation Precip. Day mph mph Deg. F. Percent in. Hg. µR/h. inches 1 am 1.9 ENE 5.0 74.2 22 28.54 16.4 0.00 2 am 1.0 ENE 3.8 73.4 24 28.54 16.5 0.00 3 am 1.5 N 3.7 70.3 28 28.54 16.6 0.00 4 am 1.1 ENE 2.9 68.6 29 28.55 16.7 0.00 5 am 1.1 NE 2.9 66.6 32 28.55 17.0 0.00 6 am 0.7 E 3.4 67.8 30 28.56 16.8 0.00 7 am 0.5 ENE 2.3 75.1 26 28.58 16.8 0.00 8 am 1.2 ENE 3.4 82.4 18 28.58 16.9 0.00 9 am 1.3 E 3.4 88.6 14 28.58 29.4 0.00 10 am 1.3 S 4.2 94.5 12 28.58 20.0 0.00 11 am 1.9 S 5.4 98.9 11 28.55 14.9 0.00 12 pm 3.1 S 10.5 102.5 10 28.52 15.0 0.00 1 pm 4.3 SSW 11.5 104.6 11 28.49 15.0 0.00 2 pm 3.6 SSW 11.0 106.7 9 28.45 15.0 0.00 3 pm 6.2 S 17.2 105.0 10 28.43 15.0 0.00 4 pm 8.3 SSE 19.9 104.2 12 28.41 15.1 0.00 5 pm 5.2 SSE 16.7 102.7 12 28.39 15.0 0.00 6 pm 8.9 N 22.6 99.9 12 28.40 15.0 0.00  |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1531674 United States09/09/2011 12:44 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | There's only "one power line" that provides power to 1.4 million homes?? No redundancy at all at such a major junction? Is this incredibly bad design or is this made up? Quoting: TrixieMama Reminds me of the scene in the movie Airplane where the guy unplugs the runway lights and it is just a regular old plug in the wall....  No, we have an incredibly bad design. Between the aqueduct and the power grid, we are sitting time bombs just asking for trouble. That is correct. Which is why Americans are freaking OUT who understand our infrastructure but Aussies do not (see above). |
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| Tatlantis User ID: 1529265 United States09/09/2011 12:47 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | And so it begins.....Large rock thrown through a window of an animal hospital in Clarmont at Target shopping center. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1541419 tranquilizerlicious "What we do for ourselves dies with us. What we do for others and the world remains and is immortal." -Albert Pike • The smallest good deed is better than the grandest good intention. • “Your Majesty, please… I don’t like to complain, But down here below, we are feeling great pain. I know, up on top you are seeing great sights, But down here at the bottom we, too, should have rights. We turtles can’t stand it. Our shells will all crack! Besides, we need food. We are starving!” groaned Mack. “You hush up your mouth!” howled the mighty King Yertle. “You’ve no right to talk to the world’s highest turtle. I rule from the clouds! Over land! Over sea! There’s nothing, no, NOTHING, that’s higher than me!” |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1541400 United States09/09/2011 12:47 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Hey guess what everyone... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1537047 This just in: Power company employee caused massive blackout, utility says An Arizona power company said Thursday that a worker probably caused the power outage that left large parts of Southern California and the surrounding region in the dark. APS, which is Arizona’s largest electric utility said a power line was tripped near Yuma, Ariz., at 3:30 p.m. Thursday during maintenance work. "The outage appears to be related to a procedure an APS employee was carrying out in the North Gila substation, which is located northeast of Yuma," an APS press release said. "Operating and protection protocols typically would have isolated the resulting outage to the Yuma area. The reason that did not occur in this case will be the focal point of the investigation into the event, which already is underway." San Diego Gas & Electric said it is attempting to begin restoring power in some areas. But they said the outage might last into Friday evening in some areas. More than 1.4 million people in a large swath of Southern California and beyond were affected as a blackout brought normal life to a halt. [link to latimesblogs.latimes.com]  I don't believe it for a minute.....That makes TWO of us. Not one single solitary word of any of it do I believe, except the Salton Sea part. To the person trying to get a response about hackers....you got one here. They, unfortunately, can do just about anything. Who knows...do you feel a great unease about the whole thing? I do. |
| TrixieMama User ID: 1311280 United States09/09/2011 12:47 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | There's only "one power line" that provides power to 1.4 million homes?? No redundancy at all at such a major junction? Is this incredibly bad design or is this made up? Quoting: TrixieMama Reminds me of the scene in the movie Airplane where the guy unplugs the runway lights and it is just a regular old plug in the wall.... No, we have an incredibly bad design. Between the aqueduct and the power grid, we are sitting time bombs just asking for trouble. That is correct. Which is why Americans are freaking OUT who understand our infrastructure but Aussies do not (see above). Right! Not everyone understand the seriousness of this. If the grid goes down we go back to horse and buggy era. Everything comes to a stand still. No way to pay your bills online, no way to recharge cell phones, eventually you can't get gas for your car so you can't travel, you can't work because you don't have a computer and everything now is paperless for the most part and the list goes on and on. WE have a HORRIBLE design. It's totally flawed. I am surprised that we have gone this long without serious drama/doom. Really, it's awful. It's a wonder we have made it this long. "I can do ALL things through Christ who strengthens me" Phillipians 4:13 "I shall call upon the name of the Lord who is worthy to be praised; so shall I be saved from mine enemies" Psalm 18:2-4 "In God is my salvation and my glory; the rock of my strength, and my refuge, is in God." Psalm 62:6-8 "He must become greater; I must become less.” John 3:30 |
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| UseLess RepEATER User ID: 1515478 United States09/09/2011 12:48 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | An unprecendented power outage led to controlled chaos Thursday throughout San Diego County and surrounding areas as 1.4 million residents coped with the sudden loss of electricity, and officials say power will be restored in waves through Saturday. The outage began at 3:38 p.m. after a 500-kilovolt high-voltage line from Arizona to California failed, triggering a cascade of events that then knocked the San Onofre nuclear power plant offline. Those are the two major power sources for the region. Besides the county, affected customers reside in eastern Arizona, Baja California and southern Orange County. The power failure led to school and business closures, suspended water service in some areas, flight cancellations, blacked-out traffic lights, silent radio stations and trapped elevator passengers. Public schools throughout the county and several high-education institutions will be closed Friday... Read the Rest Here: [link to www.signonsandiego.com] Real Eyes, Realize, Real Lies..... Every normal man must be tempted, at times, to spit on his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin slitting throats. ~H. L. Mencken~ We can easily forgive a child who is afraid of the dark; the real tragedy of life is when men are afraid of the light. ~Plato~ When a well-packaged web of lies has been sold gradually to the masses over generations, the truth will seem utterly preposterous and its speaker a raving lunatic. ~Dresden James~ |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1533774 United States09/09/2011 12:49 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | make the best of the situation and look at the stars, no lights to get in the way, I bet the show is fabulous!! Quoting: Watcher4All  I'm on east coast, just survived 5 1/2 days of no power, and believe it or not most of our food including meat made it through. Things were very peaceful, and my kids did something normal instead of staring at computer all day long. It was stressful but not altogether bad. |
| Tatlantis User ID: 1529265 United States09/09/2011 12:49 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | There's only "one power line" that provides power to 1.4 million homes?? No redundancy at all at such a major junction? Is this incredibly bad design or is this made up? Quoting: TrixieMama Reminds me of the scene in the movie Airplane where the guy unplugs the runway lights and it is just a regular old plug in the wall.... No, we have an incredibly bad design. Between the aqueduct and the power grid, we are sitting time bombs just asking for trouble. That is correct. Which is why Americans are freaking OUT who understand our infrastructure but Aussies do not (see above). Right! Not everyone understand the seriousness of this. If the grid goes down we go back to horse and buggy era. Everything comes to a stand still. No way to pay your bills online, no way to recharge cell phones, eventually you can't get gas for your car so you can't travel, you can't work because you don't have a computer and everything now is paperless for the most part and the list goes on and on. WE have a HORRIBLE design. It's totally flawed. I am surprised that we have gone this long without serious drama/doom. Really, it's awful. It's a wonder we have made it this long. Let's bring lynchings and cursive writing back!  Last Edited by Tatlantis on 09/09/2011 12:50 AM "What we do for ourselves dies with us. What we do for others and the world remains and is immortal." -Albert Pike • The smallest good deed is better than the grandest good intention. • “Your Majesty, please… I don’t like to complain, But down here below, we are feeling great pain. I know, up on top you are seeing great sights, But down here at the bottom we, too, should have rights. We turtles can’t stand it. Our shells will all crack! Besides, we need food. We are starving!” groaned Mack. “You hush up your mouth!” howled the mighty King Yertle. “You’ve no right to talk to the world’s highest turtle. I rule from the clouds! Over land! Over sea! There’s nothing, no, NOTHING, that’s higher than me!” |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1533774 United States09/09/2011 12:50 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Some could be without power until Saturday Quoting: UseLess RepEATER An unprecendented power outage led to controlled chaos Thursday throughout San Diego County and surrounding areas as 1.4 million residents coped with the sudden loss of electricity, and officials say power will be restored in waves through Saturday. The outage began at 3:38 p.m. after a 500-kilovolt high-voltage line from Arizona to California failed, triggering a cascade of events that then knocked the San Onofre nuclear power plant offline. Those are the two major power sources for the region. Besides the county, affected customers reside in eastern Arizona, Baja California and southern Orange County. The power failure led to school and business closures, suspended water service in some areas, flight cancellations, blacked-out traffic lights, silent radio stations and trapped elevator passengers. Public schools throughout the county and several high-education institutions will be closed Friday... Read the Rest Here: [link to www.signonsandiego.com] Why is a simple power outage controlled chaos in S. California, but a much longer power outage coming from a hurricane and torrential rains does not cause chaos on the east coast? Is it cultural? |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1541246 United States09/09/2011 12:51 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | There's only "one power line" that provides power to 1.4 million homes?? No redundancy at all at such a major junction? Is this incredibly bad design or is this made up? Quoting: TrixieMama Reminds me of the scene in the movie Airplane where the guy unplugs the runway lights and it is just a regular old plug in the wall.... No, we have an incredibly bad design. Between the aqueduct and the power grid, we are sitting time bombs just asking for trouble. That is correct. Which is why Americans are freaking OUT who understand our infrastructure but Aussies do not (see above). Right! Not everyone understand the seriousness of this. If the grid goes down we go back to horse and buggy era. Everything comes to a stand still. No way to pay your bills online, no way to recharge cell phones, eventually you can't get gas for your car so you can't travel, you can't work because you don't have a computer and everything now is paperless for the most part and the list goes on and on. WE have a HORRIBLE design. It's totally flawed. I am surprised that we have gone this long without serious drama/doom. Really, it's awful. It's a wonder we have made it this long. Let's bring lynchings and cursive writing back!  Strangest. Sentence. Ever.  |
| TrixieMama User ID: 1311280 United States09/09/2011 12:51 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | And so it begins.....Large rock thrown through a window of an animal hospital in Clarmont at Target shopping center. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1541419 It won't take much for people to start looting/rioting. We could very well be on the verge of massive doom. I say that because August had no job growth, we have an usurper in the white house, global economic markets are on the verge of collapsing and we are on the verge of comet/rogue planet doom later this month. Now if one were to speculate on everything that is happening this month, one could *speculate* that if Bible prophecy is true, the stage is being set for total collapse, world war and the entrance of the AC. I'm NOT saying that is what is happening, just throwing out another doom scenario  "I can do ALL things through Christ who strengthens me" Phillipians 4:13 "I shall call upon the name of the Lord who is worthy to be praised; so shall I be saved from mine enemies" Psalm 18:2-4 "In God is my salvation and my glory; the rock of my strength, and my refuge, is in God." Psalm 62:6-8 "He must become greater; I must become less.” John 3:30 |
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| WiseManOnceSaid User ID: 828055 United States09/09/2011 12:51 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | No its purely because of the unknown reason. Obviously in the back of everyone's mind no one believes the story. I've been through many power outages and with or without phones you find out how it happened fairly fast. I have learned that the ambition of those who follow selfish precepts is no more than a chaotic waste, a finite gain that must be followed by infinite loss. For there is indeed a harmony in the universe, a concordant singing of common weal. To join that song one must find inner harmony, the notes that ring true. There is another point to that truth, that Evil does not sing. -Drizzt Do'Urden Gun control means using two hands. |
| TrixieMama User ID: 1311280 United States09/09/2011 12:52 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1531674 No, we have an incredibly bad design. Between the aqueduct and the power grid, we are sitting time bombs just asking for trouble. That is correct. Which is why Americans are freaking OUT who understand our infrastructure but Aussies do not (see above). Right! Not everyone understand the seriousness of this. If the grid goes down we go back to horse and buggy era. Everything comes to a stand still. No way to pay your bills online, no way to recharge cell phones, eventually you can't get gas for your car so you can't travel, you can't work because you don't have a computer and everything now is paperless for the most part and the list goes on and on. WE have a HORRIBLE design. It's totally flawed. I am surprised that we have gone this long without serious drama/doom. Really, it's awful. It's a wonder we have made it this long. Let's bring lynchings and cursive writing back! Strangest. Sentence. Ever. Where did that sentence come from? I wrote the paragraph above, not TAt. I'm so confused, LOL. "I can do ALL things through Christ who strengthens me" Phillipians 4:13 "I shall call upon the name of the Lord who is worthy to be praised; so shall I be saved from mine enemies" Psalm 18:2-4 "In God is my salvation and my glory; the rock of my strength, and my refuge, is in God." Psalm 62:6-8 "He must become greater; I must become less.” John 3:30 |
| WiseManOnceSaid User ID: 828055 United States09/09/2011 12:52 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I've been through many power outages and with or without phones you find out how it happened fairly fast. I have learned that the ambition of those who follow selfish precepts is no more than a chaotic waste, a finite gain that must be followed by infinite loss. For there is indeed a harmony in the universe, a concordant singing of common weal. To join that song one must find inner harmony, the notes that ring true. There is another point to that truth, that Evil does not sing. -Drizzt Do'Urden Gun control means using two hands. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1456495 United States09/09/2011 12:53 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Some could be without power until Saturday Quoting: UseLess RepEATER An unprecendented power outage led to controlled chaos Thursday throughout San Diego County and surrounding areas as 1.4 million residents coped with the sudden loss of electricity, and officials say power will be restored in waves through Saturday. The outage began at 3:38 p.m. after a 500-kilovolt high-voltage line from Arizona to California failed, triggering a cascade of events that then knocked the San Onofre nuclear power plant offline. Those are the two major power sources for the region. Besides the county, affected customers reside in eastern Arizona, Baja California and southern Orange County. The power failure led to school and business closures, suspended water service in some areas, flight cancellations, blacked-out traffic lights, silent radio stations and trapped elevator passengers. Public schools throughout the county and several high-education institutions will be closed Friday... Read the Rest Here: [link to www.signonsandiego.com] Why is a simple power outage controlled chaos in S. California, but a much longer power outage coming from a hurricane and torrential rains does not cause chaos on the east coast? Is it cultural? Well those rains are common and predicted. You expect them to happen. These power outages are sudden and people just don't know what's going on. I mean if you see a huge storm and the power goes out, ok the storm caused it. imagine you're at work and the power just completely goes out for no apparent reason. Phone lines are dead you can't get a hold of anyone. Its confusion and chaos, people over there probably thought "terrorism, aliens, nuclear explosion" you really just don't know what hit you. And ill chime in and say that its very hard to believe one person randomly knocked over a chord and shut down power for half the west coast. |
| UseLess RepEATER User ID: 1515478 United States09/09/2011 12:53 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Wait did someone say they are from Yuma? I am from Somerton, I didn't think I would have someone local here! Quoting: KaiserGX 1541479 My buddy is the financial director of your town. Real Eyes, Realize, Real Lies..... Every normal man must be tempted, at times, to spit on his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin slitting throats. ~H. L. Mencken~ We can easily forgive a child who is afraid of the dark; the real tragedy of life is when men are afraid of the light. ~Plato~ When a well-packaged web of lies has been sold gradually to the masses over generations, the truth will seem utterly preposterous and its speaker a raving lunatic. ~Dresden James~ |
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