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SOUTH AFRIKA, WAS IT BETTER IN APARTHEID.

 
john
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09/09/2011 12:06 AM
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SOUTH AFRIKA, WAS IT BETTER IN APARTHEID.
you may think that the white people "tortured" black people during aparthied or that mandela was just fighting for a "better" south afrika but i'll tell you the SA was a first world country while apartheid was in motion until the "kindness" of nato turned SA into a third world country and that mandela wasnt fighting for freedom, he was a communist' terrorist and was trying to overthrow the SA government, he was a terrorist, worse than al-qeada.:
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09/09/2011 12:10 AM
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I love your country, but have only visited post Mandela.
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09/09/2011 12:11 AM
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I love your country, but have only visited post Mandela.
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thanks man, i'm not a racist, but it was better
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09/09/2011 12:12 AM
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ask me anything about aparthied
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09/09/2011 12:15 AM
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Yes, it was better according to the dozen or so people I've met who were there before and after. Of course the SA government launched a 'war on terror' and once that is unleashed all hell erupts. Mandella was in jail for a MASSIVE stash of 'blowin up people' ordinance.
Nice to see they can hardly keep their top of the line power distribution systems working today.
Listen to the old Robby Noel shows on RBN and he tells some great tales of Rhodesia and SA.

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Is the ANC still making plans to turn SOuth Africa into the same shit hole as Zimbabwe?


Last I heard the ANC were taking trips to Mugabe for courses on how to use communism to destroy everythign in sight
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09/09/2011 12:21 AM
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Re: SOUTH AFRIKA, WAS IT BETTER IN APARTHEID.
you may think that the white people "tortured" black people during aparthied or that mandela was just fighting for a "better" south afrika but i'll tell you the SA was a first world country while apartheid was in motion until the "kindness" of nato turned SA into a third world country and that mandela wasnt fighting for freedom, he was a communist' terrorist and was trying to overthrow the SA government, he was a terrorist, worse than al-qeada.:
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Yes, "better" for whites... duh

Here's more brilliant insight for you. Nazism was better for non-jewish people. American slavery was better for whites. Native Americans were better off before Columbus came.
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09/09/2011 12:24 AM
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you may think that the white people "tortured" black people during aparthied or that mandela was just fighting for a "better" south afrika but i'll tell you the SA was a first world country while apartheid was in motion until the "kindness" of nato turned SA into a third world country and that mandela wasnt fighting for freedom, he was a communist' terrorist and was trying to overthrow the SA government, he was a terrorist, worse than al-qeada.:
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Elon Musk is quoted as saying he left SA because he didn't want to wind up being a military conscript beating up blacks. That says it all right there.
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09/09/2011 12:25 AM
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you may think that the white people "tortured" black people during aparthied or that mandela was just fighting for a "better" south afrika but i'll tell you the SA was a first world country while apartheid was in motion until the "kindness" of nato turned SA into a third world country and that mandela wasnt fighting for freedom, he was a communist' terrorist and was trying to overthrow the SA government, he was a terrorist, worse than al-qeada.:
 Quoting: john 1540422


Yes, "better" for whites... duh

Here's more brilliant insight for you. Nazism was better for non-jewish people. American slavery was better for whites. Native Americans were better off before Columbus came.
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exactly, and since more than a majority are black in SA, the OP is an idiot.
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you may think that the white people "tortured" black people during aparthied or that mandela was just fighting for a "better" south afrika but i'll tell you the SA was a first world country while apartheid was in motion until the "kindness" of nato turned SA into a third world country and that mandela wasnt fighting for freedom, he was a communist' terrorist and was trying to overthrow the SA government, he was a terrorist, worse than al-qeada.:
 Quoting: john 1540422


Yes, "better" for whites... duh

Here's more brilliant insight for you. Nazism was better for non-jewish people. American slavery was better for whites. Native Americans were better off before Columbus came.
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exactly, and since more than a majority are black in SA, the OP is an idiot.
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So what? OP is not an idiot, fuck me the reservations in canada/US are worse off then ANYTHING under apartheid.
You obviously know nothing of history (more than 90% of the blacks MOVED to SA to BETTER their lives from their own crud countries). They had MASSIVE ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION...wake the fuck up and stop watching Biko for fuck sakes.

"Duh, hu, saws it on the tell-lie-vision and peter gabriel sayz it must be true"...wow what a bunch of malarkey from obviously uneducated, but highly edufuckated personages. Get oof the net and go to a library..."GET THEE TO A LIBRARY", you know...history books and such. But hey...you've got your own ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION scenario to deal with and WHEN YOU GET BOOTED FROM THE COUNTRY YOUR FOREFATHERS BUILT...you might have the time in a refugee camp to look into history.

What a bunch of bought out, politically correct morans. Send you negative karma my way becuase I don't give a fuck if I'm speaking truth and ya'll spouting Zio-nazi BS Bilderburger nonsense. Good luck, and as my First Nations friends (I'm named) "welcome to the Reservation"....
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09/09/2011 12:37 AM
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Of course things were better, the economy was much better and there was more to go around.

The question should be - would South Africa today be better if it were still under apartheid? Much more unclear.
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09/09/2011 12:52 AM
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The greatest fear of the Elite is the African continent... You will not believe the lengths they have went to destroy and Suppress the shit out of this continent. Had this continent of people maintained their foothold (which more than proves they were apart of every continent on the planet that the elite "DISCOVERED"). The Elite would not even be an existence. This continent that is ravaged by aids and warfare is the his-story literally every single person has been told in history books. This is richest continent in the world in terms of natural resources... Do you understand that. NATURAL RESOURCES. 100% profit for this continent. The Elite went to America and literally Decimated and genocided to dig the fucking gold out of the earth in the west and turn this place into literal shit infested matrix of pharmeceuticals, fast food, and death.

Do you think these people brought it upon themselves all the diseases and aids.... When the Italians invaded in the 1930s bringing their diseased cows causing massive famine throughout the land... You are never told this and most likely never will.....

Open your eyes people.......




These videos show the elites involvement in destroying the african continent. For centuries the elite have been doing this.

Remember the European Church missions in 1700s and 1800s Trying to convert their religion, and offer medicine... It was not out of the kindness of their heart, alot of artifacts, books of knowledge were taken from tribes and villages throughout the continent... so much of its history is gone, buried, never spoken of that no one will truly know how great the african continent is, and how it has been kept under strife since the beginning of time





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Thread: Uncovered Truth-The ELITES Conquest to Oppress Control a nd Strip the African Continent......
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09/09/2011 12:53 AM
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Re: SOUTH AFRIKA, WAS IT BETTER IN APARTHEID.
you may think that the white people "tortured" black people during aparthied or that mandela was just fighting for a "better" south afrika but i'll tell you the SA was a first world country while apartheid was in motion until the "kindness" of nato turned SA into a third world country and that mandela wasnt fighting for freedom, he was a communist' terrorist and was trying to overthrow the SA government, he was a terrorist, worse than al-qeada.:
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lol SA isn't a third world country.
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09/09/2011 08:13 AM
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you may think that the white people "tortured" black people during aparthied or that mandela was just fighting for a "better" south afrika but i'll tell you the SA was a first world country while apartheid was in motion until the "kindness" of nato turned SA into a third world country and that mandela wasnt fighting for freedom, he was a communist' terrorist and was trying to overthrow the SA government, he was a terrorist, worse than al-qeada.:
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lol SA isn't a third world country.
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how can it not be every 187 of 5000 people in south africa are murdered while in america its every 5 of 5000s226
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09/09/2011 08:17 AM
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There was more order and progress before. If freedom is freedom to rape and pillage, to drag ones country down in to the mire of chaos and tribalism,then I guess SA is better off now.

Some peoples require a firmer hand than others.
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09/09/2011 08:27 AM
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Funny how the outside world think SA is this rosy coloured place.
Anyone not from SA have full burglar bars on their house,armed response security company and electric fence....
here in SA thats not the exection thats everyday life for us. When you go to a shack town and see that even the shacks have burgalr bars on their windows or barbed wire then you realize how bad it is. Sure every other country has the same issues with crime,what makes SA different is the voilent crime. They dont just rob you,they rape and kill you for a cell phone or a few cents.

Welcome to the new SA,Reverse apartheid against people that never took part in apartheid,if your born white your a racist pig that endorsed apartheid and you will suffer from BEE. And just to let you okes know,alot of black people in SA are now saying that it was better back in apartheid,they might not have had freedom but atleast they had a roof over their heads,food on the table and infrastrcuture was being built
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you may think that the white people "tortured" black people during aparthied or that mandela was just fighting for a "better" south afrika but i'll tell you the SA was a first world country while apartheid was in motion until the "kindness" of nato turned SA into a third world country and that mandela wasnt fighting for freedom, he was a communist' terrorist and was trying to overthrow the SA government, he was a terrorist, worse than al-qeada.:
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yes it was better...all that mandela movement was nothing but a lie.
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09/09/2011 08:43 AM
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Yes, Apartheid was mishandled, and there were many mistakes when power was transferred over to those who were neither educated nor qualified for the positions they took. But to say things were "better" before Apartheid is a very ignorant and slanted statement: Yes, it was much better for whites, who are a minority here, but there is more opportunity now for more of the population who are black, which is very important. As I am white, I also know that there are many opportunities here for me; I feel very confident in the future of SA.

SA is ripe with opportunity now more than ever and there is great movement all over the country for social upliftment and improvements. Blacks and whites are working together more and more.

Where there is disparity, there is always crime. As the middle class in the US and Europe continue to disappear, and the rich get richer, we will see a lot more crime in once "secure" places in the world. By the way, this same conversation is happening in the US regarding Mexicans, in Austria regarding Turks, in Germany regarding Serbs, etc etc....

If a person is racist, bitter and pessimistic about his or her country, then that is what he will see wherever he goes. If a person is optimistic and becomes part of the solution, then he or she will experience their life in a more positive way. So rather than moaning about SA, I recommend working to make it better.
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It makes me sad to hear that people that have never lived in South Africa make comments on things they know nothing about.
I don't remember much of the apartheid era but I do know that things have gotten really bad and that South Africa is no longer the boundless beautiful country that I love and call home.

From my personal experience I believe that South Africa is still caught up in apartheid (now just reversed) and it is doing irreversible damage to everything and everyone in it. Most people just want to move on and let South Africa grow to its full potential but as things are at the moment and with the people in control things may very well go the same way as Zimbabwe sooner than we think.
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It makes me sad to hear that people that have never lived in South Africa make comments on things they know nothing about.
I don't remember much of the apartheid era but I do know that things have gotten really bad and that South Africa is no longer the boundless beautiful country that I love and call home.

From my personal experience I believe that South Africa is still caught up in apartheid (now just reversed) and it is doing irreversible damage to everything and everyone in it. Most people just want to move on and let South Africa grow to its full potential but as things are at the moment and with the people in control things may very well go the same way as Zimbabwe sooner than we think.
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And it's only going to get worse the demons are drunk with power.
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It makes me sad to hear that people that have never lived in South Africa make comments on things they know nothing about.
I don't remember much of the apartheid era but I do know that things have gotten really bad and that South Africa is no longer the boundless beautiful country that I love and call home.

From my personal experience I believe that South Africa is still caught up in apartheid (now just reversed) and it is doing irreversible damage to everything and everyone in it. Most people just want to move on and let South Africa grow to its full potential but as things are at the moment and with the people in control things may very well go the same way as Zimbabwe sooner than we think.
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+1
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09/10/2011 10:56 AM
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don't get me wrong, i don't have a thing against black people, its the south african youth leageu and their leader , juilus malemma i am worried about, they want to make SA a communistic land burnit
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you may think that the white people "tortured" black people during aparthied or that mandela was just fighting for a "better" south afrika but i'll tell you the SA was a first world country while apartheid was in motion until the "kindness" of nato turned SA into a third world country and that mandela wasnt fighting for freedom, he was a communist' terrorist and was trying to overthrow the SA government, he was a terrorist, worse than al-qeada.:
 Quoting: john 1540422


yes it was better...all that mandela movement was nothing but a lie.
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stfu
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you may think that the white people "tortured" black people during aparthied or that mandela was just fighting for a "better" south afrika but i'll tell you the SA was a first world country while apartheid was in motion until the "kindness" of nato turned SA into a third world country and that mandela wasnt fighting for freedom, he was a communist' terrorist and was trying to overthrow the SA government, he was a terrorist, worse than al-qeada.:
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yes it was better...all that mandela movement was nothing but a lie.
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clappa
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(ps. people thanks for the allright ratings)

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Op: are you white or black?
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The blacks are doing the same thing over here in the USA.

Just wait until they rid the planet of all us white people
and see how much better their lives will be.






As slaves to their own people again.

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south africa is a human breeding zone for aliens it;s never been good













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I am an ex South African .... I'm white and left 12 years ago

I grew up in the apatheid era, spent over 30 years of my life there, and was concripted to 2 years national service (army) ...

and frankly, I don't give a fucking shit about that dump now, but do feel sorry for the white people who are stuck there with the wrong passports and cannot get out ... they live in fear

most of the white people who could get out, already have, and have taken their families to europe, UK, australia or the US .... ask any heathrow airport official ... even the black people are trying to flee the country and get caught out at heathrow airport

those white people who can get out, but remain to stay there, do so as they are making good money, but I can promise that many have plans and 'nest eggs' in other countries

I recently visited .... the place stinks ... you even have to get your luggage clingwrapped at airports ... the roads are full of potholes .... and many properties owned by white people have electric fences, armed response alarm systems, bullterriers and rotweilers and burgular bars on all windows and doors (god help if there is a home fire)

corruption is rife within the government/police force, crime is the highest in the world, aids and poverty is high, and the country has a baboon for a president who was convicted of fraud, and who commited rape ...

educated white people cannot get work as they have 'affirmative action' .... i.e. they hire 5 baboons to do the same job as 1 qualified competant white person

these my friends, are facts, and I speak from the heart
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I am an ex South African .... I'm white and left 12 years ago

I grew up in the apatheid era, spent over 30 years of my life there, and was concripted to 2 years national service (army) ...

and frankly, I don't give a fucking shit about that dump now, but do feel sorry for the white people who are stuck there with the wrong passports and cannot get out ... they live in fear

most of the white people who could get out, already have, and have taken their families to europe, UK, australia or the US .... ask any heathrow airport official ... even the black people are trying to flee the country and get caught out at heathrow airport

those white people who can get out, but remain to stay there, do so as they are making good money, but I can promise that many have plans and 'nest eggs' in other countries

I recently visited .... the place stinks ... you even have to get your luggage clingwrapped at airports ... the roads are full of potholes .... and many properties owned by white people have electric fences, armed response alarm systems, bullterriers and rotweilers and burgular bars on all windows and doors (god help if there is a home fire)

corruption is rife within the government/police force, crime is the highest in the world, aids and poverty is high, and the country has a baboon for a president who was convicted of fraud, and who commited rape ...

educated white people cannot get work as they have 'affirmative action' .... i.e. they hire 5 baboons to do the same job as 1 qualified competant white person

these my friends, are facts, and I speak from the heart
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Once again,
Sounds like what's happening in the USA.
Shoulda followed the signs but didn't
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The dumbfuck liberals only ever see what they want to see.

As Jack Nicholson said. "You can't handle the truth"

[link to www.timesonline.co.uk]

How about that for a dose of mostly unreported truth.

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