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I make $85,000 a year and I am barely surviving in this economy

 
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$85k is pretty good money OP. Now that you've listed your grievances, why don't you list your true debt to income? Toys, loans, mortgage, credit cards, and we'll see how much you really are eroding.

Champagne lifestyle is a bitch once things get tough. Not saying this is you OP but it sure goes for the majority of the USA. People have no clue how to live within their means.
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Ok - I will.

I have one car (2007 hyundai tucson). I bought it used from Car max for $16,000 which I paid off in about 2 1/2 years.

I have $8200 on my credit card (mostly from my divorce in 2008). I ran out of money during the divorce and needed to put some of my lawyer fees on this card. I'm slowly paying this down, however, and hopefully can get it paid off by the end of the year (the original balance was much much higher).

I don't really have any "toys" like a boat, or fancy car, or something like that. I don't take any vacations.

I don't believe my lifestyle qualifies as excessive or outside my means. Just saying if things continue to increase in costs, eventually I will "erode away" ....
 Quoting: OP 1518917


If you are still single you might want to get a roommate. I take it you might not want to move since you lost value in your home so a roommate can help with that mortgage. Might even think about a couple of roommates depending on the size of your home.
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Glad you brought that up. I did rent out the downstairs of the home to a college student. She has been in the home since July and that has helped me pay down some of my debt, yes.
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Excellent!
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Re: I make $85,000 a year and I am barely surviving in this economy
You fellas who keep talking about the 85k is missing the point - which is - it doens't matter how much you make - they are taking away the middle class.



* Food prices going up
* I live in Illinois - my state raised taxes at the beginning of the year
* Gas prices in IL highest in the country (because of gas tax) - costs me $65 to fill my gas tank
* Tollways in Chicago Land - they just raised the rate (almost double)
* Obamacare made my healthcare costs go up - instead of taking the same coverage with a higher payment, I opted for the same cost with less coverage (sigh)
* Energy prices going up - to run my air conditioner to the house cost me $120/mo this year (2 years ago it was $80)
* Natural Gas - same the cost is going up. Will be expensive to heat the house this winter.
* Rewards for my debit card was taken away by Chase, after congress passed that law limiting banks on what they can charge merchants for VISA transactions. Bank talking of adding a monthly fee to use a debit card now.
* Even though Banks advertise low interest rates for mortgages, I don't qualify even though I have very good credit. I'm not complaining that much on this one, because I have a 4.5% now... which is pretty good.
* Cost of home owners insurance creeping up every year. Used to pay $700 a year, now pay nearly a $1000 a year.
* Value of my home down nearly $60,000 from what I bought it at in 2006. But my property taxes are higher now than when I bought it.

The list goes on and on... I AM "Middle America". I AM "Main Street". And I'm being eroded away slowly ....
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Jesus Christ rules!
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Re: I make $85,000 a year and I am barely surviving in this economy
* Food prices going up
* I live in Illinois - my state raised taxes at the beginning of the year
* Gas prices in IL highest in the country (because of gas tax) - costs me $65 to fill my gas tank
* Tollways in Chicago Land - they just raised the rate (almost double)
* Obamacare made my healthcare costs go up - instead of taking the same coverage with a higher payment, I opted for the same cost with less coverage (sigh)
* Energy prices going up - to run my air conditioner to the house cost me $120/mo this year (2 years ago it was $80)
* Natural Gas - same the cost is going up. Will be expensive to heat the house this winter.
* Rewards for my debit card was taken away by Chase, after congress passed that law limiting banks on what they can charge merchants for VISA transactions. Bank talking of adding a monthly fee to use a debit card now.
* Even though Banks advertise low interest rates for mortgages, I don't qualify even though I have very good credit. I'm not complaining that much on this one, because I have a 4.5% now... which is pretty good.
* Cost of home owners insurance creeping up every year. Used to pay $700 a year, now pay nearly a $1000 a year.
* Value of my home down nearly $60,000 from what I bought it at in 2006. But my property taxes are higher now than when I bought it.

The list goes on and on... I AM "Middle America". I AM "Main Street". And I'm being eroded away slowly ....
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1518917


In London that is a working class wage at 1pond to 2 dollars.

With a wife that doesnt work and kids and a mortgage im not surprised, in fact im surprised that your not starving.

Solution = get your wife to work. When are people going to realize that only those that are earning an upper middle class wage and above can sustain a housewife.
regards
Jules
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Re: I make $85,000 a year and I am barely surviving in this economy
Wait until the super committee eliminates the mortgage interest deduction, OP. Then you're really fucked, along with the rest of the middle class.
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Re: I make $85,000 a year and I am barely surviving in this economy
You fellas who keep talking about the 85k is missing the point - which is - it doens't matter how much you make - they are taking away the middle class.



* Food prices going up
* I live in Illinois - my state raised taxes at the beginning of the year
* Gas prices in IL highest in the country (because of gas tax) - costs me $65 to fill my gas tank
* Tollways in Chicago Land - they just raised the rate (almost double)
* Obamacare made my healthcare costs go up - instead of taking the same coverage with a higher payment, I opted for the same cost with less coverage (sigh)
* Energy prices going up - to run my air conditioner to the house cost me $120/mo this year (2 years ago it was $80)
* Natural Gas - same the cost is going up. Will be expensive to heat the house this winter.
* Rewards for my debit card was taken away by Chase, after congress passed that law limiting banks on what they can charge merchants for VISA transactions. Bank talking of adding a monthly fee to use a debit card now.
* Even though Banks advertise low interest rates for mortgages, I don't qualify even though I have very good credit. I'm not complaining that much on this one, because I have a 4.5% now... which is pretty good.
* Cost of home owners insurance creeping up every year. Used to pay $700 a year, now pay nearly a $1000 a year.
* Value of my home down nearly $60,000 from what I bought it at in 2006. But my property taxes are higher now than when I bought it.

The list goes on and on... I AM "Middle America". I AM "Main Street". And I'm being eroded away slowly ....
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What's so great about being middle class?
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Re: I make $85,000 a year and I am barely surviving in this economy
* Cost of home owners insurance creeping up every year. Used to pay $700 a year, now pay nearly a $1000 a year.

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Home insurance has started to skyrocket, 20-30% increases fairly common on upcoming renewals.

Live in IL - Chicago area here too, OP. The property taxes are beyond sane, and sure as hell not going down no matter how much your property has decreased in value. Gotta love that ethanol, sure helped hold down our foreign oil imports...!!!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1528287


All of my insurance went up 20% across the board this year. Health insurance has gone from $300/qtr to $1700/qtr in 10 years. With less coverage. That's a 20% increase every year for 10 years. And, that's not even family coverage.
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Re: I make $85,000 a year and I am barely surviving in this economy
I am one of the lucky ones because I still get massive amounts of overtime. I make 16.5 dollars an hour and within a 8 month strand I make about 100k a year. I made my first 100k on 11 dollars an hour but then again I made 11 dollars an hour from the minute I left my house till I walked back into the door. I'm used to being away from the house for months at a time and have been doing this for 15 years. I am spoiled though because I get so much time off now because of Obama. I used to stay busy all year but now I get laid off in november/december and don't go back to work till march.


Thanks from the bottom of my heart Obama I finally get to sit around this house with absolutely nothing to do and no money coming in.



Oh and for the cock sucking faggot whom is only making 20k a year fuck off You made Your bed now sleep in it. When the economy was good the offshore oil industry was begging for people. I mean seriously they would hire people straight out of prison because pussies like You didn't want to sacrifice. Now We haven't hired in three years so guess what You missed the train. As a matter of fact EVERY industry now is only hiring people that are skilled. So if You missed the train there is only one person to blame and that is yourself...

So go ahead and vote demoncrap but then again You probably are a demoncrap.
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Middle class is better than low class5a


You fellas who keep talking about the 85k is missing the point - which is - it doens't matter how much you make - they are taking away the middle class.



* Food prices going up
* I live in Illinois - my state raised taxes at the beginning of the year
* Gas prices in IL highest in the country (because of gas tax) - costs me $65 to fill my gas tank
* Tollways in Chicago Land - they just raised the rate (almost double)
* Obamacare made my healthcare costs go up - instead of taking the same coverage with a higher payment, I opted for the same cost with less coverage (sigh)
* Energy prices going up - to run my air conditioner to the house cost me $120/mo this year (2 years ago it was $80)
* Natural Gas - same the cost is going up. Will be expensive to heat the house this winter.
* Rewards for my debit card was taken away by Chase, after congress passed that law limiting banks on what they can charge merchants for VISA transactions. Bank talking of adding a monthly fee to use a debit card now.
* Even though Banks advertise low interest rates for mortgages, I don't qualify even though I have very good credit. I'm not complaining that much on this one, because I have a 4.5% now... which is pretty good.
* Cost of home owners insurance creeping up every year. Used to pay $700 a year, now pay nearly a $1000 a year.
* Value of my home down nearly $60,000 from what I bought it at in 2006. But my property taxes are higher now than when I bought it.

The list goes on and on... I AM "Middle America". I AM "Main Street". And I'm being eroded away slowly ....
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 Quoting: mrvdreamknight


What's so great about being middle class?
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Jesus Christ rules!
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Re: I make $85,000 a year and I am barely surviving in this economy
Sucks to be you.
"If you bring forth what is within you, what you have will save you. If you do not have that within you, what you do not have within you [will] kill you."

"Whoever has come to know the world has discovered a carcass, and whoever has discovered a carcass, of that person the world is not worthy."

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$85k is pretty good money OP. Now that you've listed your grievances, why don't you list your true debt to income? Toys, loans, mortgage, credit cards, and we'll see how much you really are eroding.

Champagne lifestyle is a bitch once things get tough. Not saying this is you OP but it sure goes for the majority of the USA. People have no clue how to live within their means.
Quoting: Sedi


Ok - I will.

I have one car (2007 hyundai tucson). I bought it used from Car max for $16,000 which I paid off in about 2 1/2 years.

I have $8200 on my credit card (mostly from my divorce in 2008). I ran out of money during the divorce and needed to put some of my lawyer fees on this card. I'm slowly paying this down, however, and hopefully can get it paid off by the end of the year (the original balance was much much higher).

I don't really have any "toys" like a boat, or fancy car, or something like that. I don't take any vacations.

I don't believe my lifestyle qualifies as excessive or outside my means. Just saying if things continue to increase in costs, eventually I will "erode away" ....
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OP you can save money on the credit card payment
just get a bank loan for the balance owing
..the interest rate will be far lower..
and you can pay off that debt more quickly.

you may also save money on the mortgage by shopping
around for a lower rate.

write down in a book or diary every cent you spend
per week fortnight monthly and look
at areas where you can save a few dollars..
simple things like turning off the hot water
heater when you arent home or needing hot water
can save you a lot of money over a year.
you might then be able to afford a holiday.
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Re: I make $85,000 a year and I am barely surviving in this economy
have you considered one of these?

[link to www.earthship.com]

Might be the answer...hf
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Re: I make $85,000 a year and I am barely surviving in this economy
If you cannot make ends meet on an 85k salary, then you have more serious personal problems than our broken economy.
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Sounds like someone has his own broken economy. Dude needs to scale back, sell some of his shit and buy a smaller house. I do just fine on my measly 40k.
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Wait until the super committee eliminates the mortgage interest deduction, OP. Then you're really fucked, along with the rest of the middle class.
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Not necessarily. A lot of people THINK they get a mortgage deduction when in fact they do not because they don't do their own taxes and don't see that they are just walking out with the standard deduction. I've been a homeowner for almost 20 years and have never paid enough interest to write it off. Even if you do pay enough to itemize and write it off, you are really only getting the advantage of the amount over the standard deduction.
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Wait until the super committee eliminates the mortgage interest deduction, OP. Then you're really fucked, along with the rest of the middle class.
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Thank you. I do fear this, as I've heard rumblings that they want to take away tax deductions. Just another chip away at what was once middle class america.
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Shit! what I could do with 85K a year! gasp
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this
i'm on 16k a year and cruisin' . Eat for 25euros a week, no prob
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You're doin it wrong.
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Shit! what I could do with 85K a year! gasp
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this
i'm on 16k a year and cruisin' . Eat for 25euros a week, no prob
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Ugh, eat what?



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Re: I make $85,000 a year and I am barely surviving in this economy
really?

i made 7200..7200 dollars...home paid off..97ford..life is ok.

got a backyard with veggies..sat tv..internet..phone and playstatiion/360..ya fuc-ing hoo
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Someone else is supporting you,

These people who claim to be doing fine on a few tens of thousands of dollars per year are bullshitting or they don't even know who really pays their bills.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1309528


really..? i have no mortgage, no credit cards, no car payment, no debt. i grow as much of my food and medicinal herbs as i can. so i need money for utilities, insurance, property taxes, gasoline and what food i can't raise. oh, and i only need a tank of gas about every two months. so why on earth could i not have lots of extra money????
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...living in an apartment doesn't count...
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i own my home outright. no apartment.
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Re: I make $85,000 a year and I am barely surviving in this economy
* Food prices going up
* I live in Illinois - my state raised taxes at the beginning of the year
* Gas prices in IL highest in the country (because of gas tax) - costs me $65 to fill my gas tank
* Tollways in Chicago Land - they just raised the rate (almost double)
* Obamacare made my healthcare costs go up - instead of taking the same coverage with a higher payment, I opted for the same cost with less coverage (sigh)
* Energy prices going up - to run my air conditioner to the house cost me $120/mo this year (2 years ago it was $80)
* Natural Gas - same the cost is going up. Will be expensive to heat the house this winter.
* Rewards for my debit card was taken away by Chase, after congress passed that law limiting banks on what they can charge merchants for VISA transactions. Bank talking of adding a monthly fee to use a debit card now.
* Even though Banks advertise low interest rates for mortgages, I don't qualify even though I have very good credit. I'm not complaining that much on this one, because I have a 4.5% now... which is pretty good.
* Cost of home owners insurance creeping up every year. Used to pay $700 a year, now pay nearly a $1000 a year.
* Value of my home down nearly $60,000 from what I bought it at in 2006. But my property taxes are higher now than when I bought it.

The list goes on and on... I AM "Middle America". I AM "Main Street". And I'm being eroded away slowly ....
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1518917


In London that is a working class wage at 1pond to 2 dollars.

With a wife that doesnt work and kids and a mortgage im not surprised, in fact im surprised that your not starving.

Solution = get your wife to work. When are people going to realize that only those that are earning an upper middle class wage and above can sustain a housewife.
regards
Jules
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He is divorced. But he does have a roommate now.

And having a wife that works is only good if you don't have daycare costs which can be astronomical. Well, unless she makes way more than the cost of daycare which these days in unlikely.
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Re: I make $85,000 a year and I am barely surviving in this economy
really?

i made 7200..7200 dollars...home paid off..97ford..life is ok.

got a backyard with veggies..sat tv..internet..phone and playstatiion/360..ya fuc-ing hoo
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1287579


Someone else is supporting you,

These people who claim to be doing fine on a few tens of thousands of dollars per year are bullshitting or they don't even know who really pays their bills.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1309528


really..? i have no mortgage, no credit cards, no car payment, no debt. i grow as much of my food and medicinal herbs as i can. so i need money for utilities, insurance, property taxes, gasoline and what food i can't raise. oh, and i only need a tank of gas about every two months. so why on earth could i not have lots of extra money????
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All I'm saying is you smoke at least 7200$ worth of pot annually and you are full of shit. Keep dreaming though its nice.
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don't smoke pot and if ye think i'm full of shit ye've got another shit coming. just because yer too damn stupid to figure out how to do it don't mean it can't be done. life is good for me. yer on yer own.
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Re: I make $85,000 a year and I am barely surviving in this economy
* Food prices going up
* I live in Illinois - my state raised taxes at the beginning of the year
* Gas prices in IL highest in the country (because of gas tax) - costs me $65 to fill my gas tank
* Tollways in Chicago Land - they just raised the rate (almost double)
* Obamacare made my healthcare costs go up - instead of taking the same coverage with a higher payment, I opted for the same cost with less coverage (sigh)
* Energy prices going up - to run my air conditioner to the house cost me $120/mo this year (2 years ago it was $80)
* Natural Gas - same the cost is going up. Will be expensive to heat the house this winter.
* Rewards for my debit card was taken away by Chase, after congress passed that law limiting banks on what they can charge merchants for VISA transactions. Bank talking of adding a monthly fee to use a debit card now.
* Even though Banks advertise low interest rates for mortgages, I don't qualify even though I have very good credit. I'm not complaining that much on this one, because I have a 4.5% now... which is pretty good.
* Cost of home owners insurance creeping up every year. Used to pay $700 a year, now pay nearly a $1000 a year.
* Value of my home down nearly $60,000 from what I bought it at in 2006. But my property taxes are higher now than when I bought it.

The list goes on and on... I AM "Middle America". I AM "Main Street". And I'm being eroded away slowly ....
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Your biggest problem is in BOLD. s226
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Re: I make $85,000 a year and I am barely surviving in this economy
violinviolinviolinviolinviolinviolinviolin

If you can't live VERY well on that salary (especially with no family to support)...there is something very wrong.
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You're doin it wrong.
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Bingo. 10$ says OP buys a lot of name brand shit, shops at walfart, and doesn't eat bulk foods. I bet if I went through OP's house I would find endless CRAP OP doesn't need, and I bet OP could take public transit much of the time when he drives.

Americans think "middle America" is some low end thing. NOPE> AMERICA WAS AND IS SPOILED and now you're realizing living this way was never sustainable to begin with. burnit
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Re: I make $85,000 a year and I am barely surviving in this economy
* Food prices going up
* I live in Illinois - my state raised taxes at the beginning of the year
* Gas prices in IL highest in the country (because of gas tax) - costs me $65 to fill my gas tank
* Tollways in Chicago Land - they just raised the rate (almost double)
* Obamacare made my healthcare costs go up - instead of taking the same coverage with a higher payment, I opted for the same cost with less coverage (sigh)
* Energy prices going up - to run my air conditioner to the house cost me $120/mo this year (2 years ago it was $80)
* Natural Gas - same the cost is going up. Will be expensive to heat the house this winter.
* Rewards for my debit card was taken away by Chase, after congress passed that law limiting banks on what they can charge merchants for VISA transactions. Bank talking of adding a monthly fee to use a debit card now.
* Even though Banks advertise low interest rates for mortgages, I don't qualify even though I have very good credit. I'm not complaining that much on this one, because I have a 4.5% now... which is pretty good.
* Cost of home owners insurance creeping up every year. Used to pay $700 a year, now pay nearly a $1000 a year.
* Value of my home down nearly $60,000 from what I bought it at in 2006. But my property taxes are higher now than when I bought it.

The list goes on and on... I AM "Middle America". I AM "Main Street". And I'm being eroded away slowly ....
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1518917

I make 3500 per year...
You should go to an island no civilisation no taxes no banks..
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Re: I make $85,000 a year and I am barely surviving in this economy
Lots of people keep telling me to "sell the house and get a cheaper one"... well it's not that easy. My house is worth less than what I paid for it. $60,000 less. Meaning if I sell the house, I would still owe the banks money - basically have to repay the difference. The money I put into the house is already gone.

I did consider walking away from the house and taking the Obama tax safe haven, where you can get off the hook from having the pay taxes on a short sale. I came very close to doing that in 2010. But being 40, I didn't want to take a hit to my credit - which is trashed during that process.

SO I opted to keep the house and refinance into a slightly better interest rate (from 6% to 4.5%). And took a roommate instead. This has helped a bit, yes.

But the point being of this thread is to show that, although I have worked hard to increase my delta (spendable cash), things are changing in the economy and the cost of living is slowly going up.

Most of my "spendable cash" goes towards paying off credit card debt right now (or other things like house repairs, or car repairs, etc etc...)
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Re: I make $85,000 a year and I am barely surviving in this economy
shut the fuck up you fag. i make 20,000 a year and am barely surviving. Last thing i want to see is you bragging about your 85k. go to hell.
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shut the fuck up you fag. i make 20,000 a year and am barely surviving. Last thing i want to see is you bragging about your 85k. go to hell.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1455907


Am I detecting some bitterness or envy here? Maybe I'm mistaken?

LOL
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I also wonder if making only $20K per annum how he affords a computer & internet? As much as we love our computers, they are a luxury when you have to budget every dime. That includes cable, cell phones, restaurants, etc.
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09/09/2011 05:06 PM
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Re: I make $85,000 a year and I am barely surviving in this economy
LOL, you've got it made in the shade compared to me slim.
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09/09/2011 05:07 PM
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Re: I make $85,000 a year and I am barely surviving in this economy
OP, why don't you itemize your monthly expses. Write it all down, what foods you buy, what you spend on EVERYTHING, and how much you make. THen the truth will hit you like a ton of bricks: You are full of CRAP. brickscow

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