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People are NOT born gay.

 
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God made us in His image. In the Bible God specifically says men shall not lay down with another man. that is not the way God intended people to be. and He also said women are not to be with other women in a sexual way. God made a woman for man so he was not alone, as a helpmate or companion.
 Quoting: sardinius



I agree with that above. But your thread title is a little miss leading. :)

Adam was the only man without sin. Till he ate the forbidden fruit, Then everyone after Adam was born in sin Read Gen. 3

So

If having sex with same gender is sin, and man is born a sinner then they are born gay, murder, lier and etc .... All follow there sinful desires.
Romans 1 18-32

We are all sinners and all fall short of Gods Glory and Goodness. How that sin manifest itself in the individual is the difference between people. People like to compare themselves to others, I am better than "jim" he killed someone but God said no Liar will enter Heaven. "IF" we only did one lie, would not enter Heaven. God is just,

If I lie to my kid, consequence no big deal
If I lie to my wife, end up sleeping on couch
If I lie to my boss, I get fired
If I lie to the Government, I go to jail

Same sin but the consequence is different, and God is infinitely more Good the the Government and the Consequence is infinitely more...Hell


God Hates sin BUT He loves the sinners

What did Jesus say, I came not for the righteous (good people) but for the sinner.... So what he was saying is, those that see them selves the way they are, a sinner, then they will see themselves needing a redeemer. Jesus

If you think you are good, then you will never "need" help from your sinful condition.

God Loves sinners, look in the mirror, If you can see? Repent (pray to Jesus for forgiveness of your sin's) look/ believe in Jesus and follow His Laws. John 14:15

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The condition of your heart at death is your choice, Heaven or Hell
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The OP seems like a guy who would cum fast if he dressed up in a pink skirt and matching bra was was penetrated by a friendly older tavern worker.
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For the love of dog, people... try to understand something beyond 2-dimensional scripture written and altered by man with an agenda. You just might learn something.

THE WAY OF THE TWO SPIRITED PEOPLE

Our Elders tell us of people who were gifted among all beings because they carried two spirits, that of male and female. It is told that women engaged in tribal warfare and married other women, as there were men who married other men. These individuals were looked upon as a third and fourth gender in many cases and in almost all cultures they were honoured and revered. Two-spirit people were often the visionaries, the healers, the medicine people, the nannies of orphans, the care givers. They were respected as fundamental components of our ancient culture and societies.

continued at [link to www.dancingtoeaglespiritsociety.org]

Someone please help me to understand why it's wise to follow the doctrine of such a bigoted, violent, hateful, and apparently fallible deity. Anyone?

I'm not necessarily doubting that such a being exists, just that such an entity OP describes is not the source of all that is.
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I am not interested in any religious doctrines about homosexuality. There is overwhelming evidence that there is a genetic factor in male homosexuals. Just google gay genes. You will find some scientific proof that the males have a chromosome differentiation that they get from their MOTHER.



This led him to compare the X chromosomes—which can be inherited only from the mother—in those same brothers. There he discovered a shared genetic marker, a patch of DNA called Xq28. Interviews with the subjects also revealed them to be either gay or straight. (In this respect, men are entirely different from women. [link to discovermagazine.com]

Mom's Genetics Could Produce Gay Sons [link to www.livescience.com]

There is 20/20 show on it - You tube

Again... behaviors of the child can come from fetal testosterone - the mother.
Regarding the testosterone levels in the mother....
Start at 8:18 on the following video...


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If there was a god, and he made us in his own image, we'd be a bunch of fucking fascists running around killing people, trying to get everyone else to worship us.
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sounds like the United States of America to me
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True, sadly.
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GOD has outlined what Sexual Immorality is and that is

Homosexual relations...Yes you can be forgives for acting on your sexual homosexual impulses, but GOD will never accept it..He will forgive you, he will not accept a behaviour that he Condemned starting in the Book of Genesis through out the Book of Revelation....
 Quoting: christian



if your GOD exists and he loves heterosexuals, why did he put your G-spot Up your arse..?? or haven't you figured out where it is yet???

lmfao!


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why would a straight person chose to engage in gay sex and like it?
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God made us in His image. In the Bible God specifically says men shall not lay down with another man. that is not the way God intended people to be. and He also said women are not to be with other women in a sexual way. God made a woman for man so he was not alone, as a helpmate or companion.
 Quoting: sardinius


Please explain to me, then, why is there more than 1500 animal species that contain homosexuals. It kind of end the nature vs nurture debate. Were the animals not hugged enough? Did they watch the wrong tv as children? No. It is obviously an unconscious factor that makes them display this behavior. Sooooooooo.....what does that say about your bible? Was this mistake made by an almighty "god," or was it made by power-hungry men who did not yet know this? I think the answer is pretty obvious.
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no they aren't and AC 1544080
chose to be that way
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no they aren't and AC 1544080
chose to be that way
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if he wasn't born gay why would he chose it? not being gay certainly implies straight. why would a straight man enjoy sucking dick unless they are *not* straight?
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Oh shut up OP, there's more gayness in the fucking bible than there is on all the dyke talk shows on TV. Get over it.
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Oh shut up OP, there's more gayness in the fucking bible than there is on all the dyke talk shows on TV. Get over it.
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Before the homosexuals took over psychiatry, sodomites were classified as having mental illness.

They were given over to reprobate minds.
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Also because of rich benefactors promoting the gay agenda. We are stuck with a whole lot of fraudulent research.
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Why do you religitards always come on here claiming people aren't born gay? How would you know,are you gay?

I think would rather trust someone who really knows about the issue ( like an actual gay person) rather than some religious zealot who let's a book and bronze age morality do their thinking for them.
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:pickupsoap:
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Thank you for giving one of the best things to watch right after smoking in a long time lol. Watched it all.
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I think that was only part one...

charlie

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Oh don't worry I watched the second part too. Couldn't look away.
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Ahhh can you feel that good old Christian love? No?
That's right because you're all a bunch of fear-mongering hate filled parasites who live in complete delusion to anything remotely real.
Please take your religious dogma somewhere else, this forum is for people who can think for themselves.

Oh and by the way, people are born gay. Deal with it.
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...Is like saying 'people are not born stupid'....

...I think the 'tendency' to 'be' anything and everything is always there (inherent in all), but external factors play a v.v.v.large part in forming the individual.

lately I've noticed many gay boys and girls....much more than before...I don't believe they were 'born' gay, rather that media, technology, processed food and food packaging, soft drinks and scaler technology are alterning their hormone levels and the collective subconscious....

..Peace..
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Why do you religitards always come on here claiming people aren't born gay? How would you know,are you gay?

I think would rather trust someone who really knows about the issue ( like an actual gay person) rather than some religious zealot who let's a book and bronze age morality do their thinking for them.
 Quoting: The Myth


Yes. I had gay tendencies as a 5 or 6 year old.
My upbringing was good, I wasnt taken advantage of or exposed to anything that I shouldnt have been.
I have never once been sexually stimulated by a girl.

There was no choice to make. It is just how I was created.
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God made us in His image.
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Gay people ARE born gay, just like YOU were born stupid, and remain so to this day.




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well lets start simple, everyone here will agree that humans are not perfect. now, humans are kinda like a computer program, they are only as good as the person who programed them or created them. therefor the creators of humans were not perfect either. simple enough. u can try to deny it, you can try to explain it off, you can try to rationalize it but in the end you know its true no matter how much you dont want to believe it. even says in the bible, " and now WE will make human beings. they will be like US and resemble US."
 Quoting: THE SERCHER


yes, it does say that, but it also says God is perfect
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What God is perfect? YOu ones don't understand. YOu are altogether God beloveds as is nature. It's all GOD the Father, Son and HOly spirit as to trinity statements, all of it.

You ones confuse God with Hierarchy of heaven too. You are going to have to redefine this simplistic concept of God. He is not just one person, but many. there is not just one boss and magic wand waver. God sits on his butt, so to speak and his SONS DO THE WORK. And you are his sons, and every thought you have is recorded and your actions affect the all. When man begins to understand and take responsibility for his actions, this world will grow up. hf

Now this is a post I made in one of my threads today. Please do click on the links before NaSA goes and changes them. It will give you an idea of how God's sons do the work, and how creation is managed in fact, and what you will do during your long eternal life, if you have chosen eternal life. but before you click below, understand planets are seeded with life by god's sons too. That you are made in the image of the father has nothing to do with your body, it has to do with your MIND. All that can REASON have GOD MIND. God is better defined as mind that a big boss person. That said, there are big boss persons in the hierarchy. All the creation is governed and nurtured by God's sons and daughters. god is not just a single being. there are 5.6 trillion inhabited planets plus those of heaven.
Now the post. Look at God's Sons doing the work and read my teaching. I happen to know of what I speak on this one. :blooming rose:
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Just for fun, heres a few more images of craft around the sun today. Esu (Jesus) told me yesterday they are working on sunspot #1289, and one pic I posted yesterday showed a small flare (with no apparent CME from it.)

Stereo Ahead sunspot 1289 on left. Also center of sun on left.

[link to stereo.gsfc.nasa.gov] This one has the big puppy that is in yesterdays. Upper right corner.

[link to stereo.gsfc.nasa.gov] big puppy and two smaller ones.

[link to stereo.gsfc.nasa.gov]

[link to stereo.gsfc.nasa.gov]

Stereo Behind sunspot 1289 on right as is the center of the sun. And you can see a whopper sunspot yet to come around about in the middle, I have no idea if this one will close up before it becomes earth facing or not.

[link to stereo.gsfc.nasa.gov] big puppy in view on this one too, about the same time frame as first images above. and a couple smaller ones.

[link to stereo.gsfc.nasa.gov] several in this one.

Ok at the later times I am only now and then seeing one in the images. do enlarge them, I selected 1024 size and on your computer you may get a plus sign to enlarge them to that.

For those more new to all sorts of stuff, this is HOW the Fathers work gets done. HIS SON"S (including each of you) do the work. These are speciality craft. BIG PUPPY is owned by the superuniverse management and is NOT from other planets similar to earth. Its from "heaven." Why is this important? Because beloveds, it is the Will of the Father that you become LIKE him, Knowing all things.

And as part of your eternal life, and knowing all things, you will FLY at some point on a Big Puppy helping or watching work being done on Suns and more. You might even become a commander of a BIG PUPPY. Big Puppies, can be several times the size of earth.

Eternity is a long long time and there are unlimited experiences to be obtained in your experiences to come.:its all good:

Now also, for good measure, here is an image from stereo last March, there are a LOT of those craft working on the sun. enlarge it.

:Craft on Stereo :
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God made us in His image.
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Gay people ARE born gay, just like YOU were born stupid, and remain so to this day.




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I'd like to know what God's image is. Who would know that? The NDEers don't even see God when they sense the presence after dying and returning.
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OP,
First of all, I seriously doubt that one gay adult reading this thread of yours even considers changing their sexuality,even if they could, because of what you have said. Gay people know they were born gay whether you know it or not.
Secondly, have you considered the fact that a young gay teenager, male or female, might actually take you seriously and be so upset by the hate that you spew, that they might actually take their own life? It happens every day because young gay people listen to people like you.
It is not your responsibility to pass judgement on others...tend to your own problems, please.
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People are born with a predisposition to be gay, just as they can be born with a predisposition for personality disorder, or just to be a "born again" closed minded religious fanatic like OP.
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People ARE born gay. We might not have exactly the location on the genome...but....people are definitely born gay.

To the OP. Did you know that animals are also born gay?

Take the time to expand your mind - try the book "Genome" by Matt Ridley. It has an excellent explanation.

From a genetics point of view you are wrong.

I am a member of a very conservative religion and my public opinion on this matter conflicted due to my knowledge of science and my love of God and Christ.

I believe that God will sort this out.

We were of course made in His image -- but what about people born with deformities? Are they not made in His image?

Expand your horizons and read a book.
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You are right, usually they are crying.
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If you feel you were born with an inbuilt obsession with sticking your cock into the shit inside other mens bumholes you are what is known as a "Genetic mutant"

If you feel like you were born normal but later became gay and developed the obsessive need to stick your cock into the shit inside other mens bumholes you are what is known and a "Twisted sick fuck"

Take your pick.

There are no other options.

Both are against what nature intended.

Therefore both are unnnatural.

BOTH are sickening.
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Nope, you're wrong. When a gay top guy gets ready to plow his bottom boi, his penis sprays out a substance call "pre-Cum", which is the slick clear liquid that carries sperm out during ejaculation. Pre-cum is emitted without ejaculation and carries no sperm. It's meant to lubricate the mangina before penetration. Heterosexual men do not have this ability since there is no need. The woman's vagina is self lubricating.
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God made us in His image. In the Bible God specifically says men shall not lay down with another man. that is not the way God intended people to be. and He also said women are not to be with other women in a sexual way. God made a woman for man so he was not alone, as a helpmate or companion.
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what is in the image of God is the soul. There are people born gay with abnormal brain chemicals. It is true however, that the sex is to be abhorred, not the people. People can love who they wish, it's the sex that is harmful and there is harmful sex all over this planet in all sorts of relationships. This IS the law.




15. YOU MUST OBEY THE WISDOM OF GOD FOR THE RESPONSIBLE AND BALANCED PROCREATION OF YOUR SPECIES.



We have written about the Commitment of Marriage by A MAN and A WOMAN To God as being one of the necessary components to also becoming a PARENT for God which means pro creating your species. (SEE Law # 8 "You Must Not Commit Adultery)."

Now the DIVINE and SACRED "act" which was created by GOD for the pro-creation of the species you ones call "sexual union". God created THIS DIVINE UNION to be performed between ONE man and ONE woman specifically for maintaining the balanced level of the species for each given planetary sys­tem. Now the "fallen" ones or adversaries of GODNESS have completely perverted and maligned this once "sacred" and "divine" act that at one time was DONE with complete LOVE and DEVOTION to THE FATHER within each partner, so that it (sex) is now called "a birthright" to be done often, with impunity and with MANY partners of either sex and without consideration of LOVE or responsible pro-creation. How we and THE FATHER weep for you! This ONE abuse of God's creation has nearly destroyed your species! Let us quote once again from, "AND THEY CALLED HIS NAME IMMANUEL. I AM SANANDA" - Pg. 55:

"The act of marriage and procreation must have the highest degree of pure intent and preparation, for upon these bonds and restrictions will rest the preservation of mankind as a species upon the planet. If everything is done and adhered to, justice and peace will come to all mankind, and life in the human form can be preserved.

"If man continues his selfish and imprudent behavior, he will sound his own death tariff. There reaches a point beyond which a planet cannot support the unbalanced system perpetrated by mankind. And yet, so shall it come to pass (Read this carefully!) that man will not listen and bring destruction upon his own species. It will come about in some two millennium that man will have reached the point of self destruction. (This is 1991 friends, have you fulfilled this prophecy of Jesus the Christ Immanuel and OTHER prophets before him?!?) And so is it projected by the prophets and shall it come to pass in its time of fulfillment and in my time of fulfillment." End of quote.

Let's begin with God's directive about marriage and Pro-cre ation between A MAN and A WOMAN. It is very clear that this DOES NOT say, marriage and "the sexual act" is OK between a man and a man, or a woman and a woman, or TWO men and ONE woman or THREE woman and ONE man, or etc. Again, the laws of balance are LOGICAL, meaning they were created specifically to maintain BALANCE within The Creation.

Because of the various degrees of deliberate, systematic and malevolently lewd and lascivious sexual behaviors, which are the corruption of this DIVINE UNION, and which have been and are practiced by most on your plane, the WARNING given above by our beloved Jesus Immanuel is transpiring before your very eyes in this time frame!

The sexual "act" was specifically designed to be performed by ONE man and ONE woman who had committed THEIR DIVINE LOVE AS ONE in the union of marriage, ordained by GOD. Through this union OF LOVE, the act of sexual intercourse between a husband and his wife for pro-creation was a most sacred and honored responsibility, an extension of their LOVE and COMMITMENT TO GOD in his service as PARENTS of HIS Children.

Now remember the law of "Cause and Effect". The EFFECTS of breaking this one directive of GOD are all about you today. Over-Population and the spread of fatal venereal and blood-borne diseases, such as Syphilis and AIDS, are proving to be YOUR self-punishment to the point of creating the nearly complete destruction of your human species on Earth.

So let there be NO misunderstanding. The following BEHAVIORS are specifically and undeniably AGAINST OR CONTRARY TO THE LAWS OF GOD AND THE CREATION:

1. Any Homosexual sexual activity between two or more men is strictly forbidden. (Candace: I am going to EXPLAIN THE WHYS at the end of this post).

2. Any Homosexual sexual activity between two or more women is strictly forbidden.

3. Any Bi-Sexual sexual activity between two or more men and women is strictly forbidden.

KEEP IN MIND WE ARE SPECIFICALLY REFERRING TO "SEXUAL" ACTIVITIES, NOT LOVE, INTIMACY (Sharing soul-deep closeness and specialness of the friendship), COHABITATION (Sharing living quarters/home together), AND FRIENDSHIP between members of the same sex. Meaning that it is the LEWD, LUSTFUL and IRRESPONSIBLE "SEXUAL ACT" THAT IS SPECIFICALLY AND STRICTLY AGAINST GOD and LIFE!

4. Any Anal (Sodomy) sexual intercourse performed between any persons, male or female, is strictly forbidden.

5. Any sexual activities performed with ANIMALS (Bestiality) by any human is strictly forbidden.

6. Any sexual activity performed by ones closely related within the same family line (Incest). For example: brother and sister, father and daughter, uncle and niece, aunt and nephew, cousin and cousin, mother and son, grandfather and granddaughter is strictly forbidden.

7. Any sexual activity performed by any (male or female) adult upon or with any child is strictly forbidden.

8. Prostitution--the act of offering oneself, man or woman, to another for sexual relations in exchange FOR PAYMENT of same--is strictly forbidden.

9. Any Sadistic or Masochistic sexual practices performed by anyone or ones upon self or others is strictly forbidden. Sadistic: "1. A tendency to take delight in being cruel. "Masochistic: "1. A condition in which sexual gratification depends largely on undergoing physical pain or humiliation. 2. A tendency to derive pleasure from one's own suffering."

10. Any voyeuristic (one who is sexually gratified by looking at sexual objects or acts) activity or any participation in pornographic (sexually explicit and obscene) materials, ie., movies, magazines, books, "artwork" and objects is strictly forbidden.


Please understand that it is this PREOCCUPATION with behavior of lustful and lascivious physical pleasure that YOU must each CHOOSE to avoid and rise above spiritually. The corruption and preoccupation with sexual thoughts, words and actions has become hypnotizingly OBSESSIVE and also terribly degrading to THE SPIRIT OF LIFE OF THE ONE! THIS IS NOT LOVE BY ANY DEFINITION. Can you not see this TRUTH before you and within you? Your sexual obsession MUST STOP if you are to reach beyond your mortal body and into THE KINGDOM OF GOD!

Many of you, by now, are probably wondering about the act of masturbation: "Stimulation of sexual organs by oneself." First RE-read the above paragraph. Masturbation is a self-pleasure sexual act upon SELF AND it is also what most of you couples are doing when you have "sex" together and call it "making love". The only difference is that it is the "sharing" of MUTUAL Masturbation with your partner. Mutual Masturbation IS NOT DIVINE SEXUAL UNION FOR CELEBRATING PROCREATION. When one is an "adult" and does not wish to have children, the seeking of sexual pleasure by self or with another is a transgression upon self simply BECAUSE YOU ARE DENYING AND LIMITING YOUR SPIRITUAL CREATIVE POTENTIAL WITHIN.

The sexual desire, in this time on your place of extreme sexual preoccupation, begins for many youngsters at puberty. Many will have sexual release or dreams while they sleep. With the CAREFUL and LOVING guidance of the parents well before and during this time, the child will not be frightened of the changes in his/her body and will most likely occasionally in dulge in masturbation for either curious exploration or release of the physical body. Moderate or occasional masturbation done in privacy by any, either child or adult, is not harmful to or AGAINST life UNTIL it becomes an obsessive pre-occupation. Also masturbation can be a means of self-punishment and this is most harmful to THE SPIRIT OF GOD WITHIN. Remember this parents, it can also become very harmful to a child if through his "training", he is taught to fear or despise his genitalia, or be made to feel guilt for self-sexual exploration or mas­turbation. He must learn about his personal responsibility and must understand ALL THE LAWS OF GOD including those governing pro-creation. But if you make the child feel fearful, shameful or guilty about his own personal sexual exploration, you may actually be creating for him OBSESSIVE PRE-OC­CUPATION with sexuality. If the child is not exposed to con stant "sexually stimulating" media, he will quickly lose interest after initial self-exploration IF HIS CREATIVE potential is encourage, nurtured and supported by HIS PARENTS and TEACHERS. The more spiritually aware children and adults will either not have much interest in, or gradually lose interest in sexual exploration of any kind. It is much healthier for the spirit if this process of becoming detached from sexual feelings is natural and BY choice because of true spiritual UNDERSTANDING and awareness.

What you ones have labeled "sexual energy" or "libido" is actually a corruption of the creative and nuturing potential of The Spirit of GOD within YOU. LET US REPEAT THIS: YOUR "SEXUAL ENERGY/LIBIDO" IS ACTUALLY A CORRUP TION OF THE CREATIVE AND NURTURING POTENTIAL OF THE SPIRIT OF GOD WITHIN YOU! Let us see how your Funk & Wagnals Dictionary defines Libido: "1. Sexual desire or impulse. 2. The instinctual craving or drive behind all human activities." Did you read that clearly, friends? INSTINCTUAL CRAVING OR DRIVE BEHIND ALL HUMAN ACTIVITIES! The catch is, precious ones, SEX is not the INSTINCTUAL craving or drive that was created by GOD, THIS was your CREATIVE, nurturing drive TO KNOW and CELEBRATE GOD WITHIN YOU, TO CO-CREATE THE EVER-UNFOLDING EXPANSION AND ADVENTURE OF LIFE! The truly loving DIVINE UNION, that of male/female experiencing their creative potential through the sexual act for PROCREATION, was created to be a UNION OF DIVINE LOVING DEVOTION and CELEBRATION OF THE GIFTS OF ONENESS SHARED...AND OF NEW LIFE CREATED FROM GOD. Rarely do ones feel TRUE LOVE, caring friendship, affection and intimacy toward their mates on your plane. Most have simply forgotten what LOVE is. You think perhaps you and your mate are one of the "rare" exceptions? Here is a test for you. How long would your marriage and commitment last if today you completely STOPPED all sexual activity with one another? Think about this carefully. Do you truly give of yourself to your mate sexually and otherwise because you wish to please them? To please both of you?

To please yourself? You ones think your sexual orgasm is ecstasy? YOU EVEN LIMIT ECSTASY!

You see, you are not your desires, you are not your emotions. YOU are THE SPIRIT of LIFE of GOD, and your spirit IS the MASTER over your desires and emotions. Don't you see that you have simply chosen, in your illusion of ignorance and confusion, TO MAKE your emotions and desires the MASTER over your SPIRIT...YOUR GODNESS?!?

This corruption of your creative potential WAS CREATED, CONDITIONED AND MOLDED BY THE ANTI-CHRIST. YOU SIMPLY BOUGHT THE LIE AS TRUTH AND HAVE BECOME ADDICTED TO YOUR DESIRE FOR "SEX". You don't believe your "sexual" desire is created? Look around you today. Your Advertising Media as well as your Magazines, Television and Movies ARE CREATING YOUR DESIRES FOR YOU by conditioning and molding you through false "IMAGES" of what is beauty, what is "sex appeal"--in other words, by directing your attention constantly to "how" you look physically, your athletic prowess, your sex appeal and attractiveness. Why does and has this "desire"-creating worked? Because the Anti-Christ first molds the "false images" and then plays upon your FEAR of being too unattractive, unworthy, unpopular and simply rejected BY OTHERS who YOU allow TO JUDGE YOU AS A HUMAN BEING! The ANTI-Christ keeps you BOUND by the "false" promises created by your desire TO BE WORTHY of LIFE so you are too busy trying to fit the "false" mold and therefore do not develop your creative spiritual potential within! How dare YOU feel UNWORTHY because of believing the nonsense of false "IMAGES"! PLEASE RE MEMBER THIS TRUTH! YOU ARE GOD'S TEMPLE!

Advertisers are always selling "their image" of what you ones call "romance" and you are encouraged to think it means passionate "sexual" fulfillment. Your dictionary describes romance as: "1. A love affair. 2. A kind of love between the sexes, characterized by high ideals of devotion, and strong ardor. 3. Adventurous, heroic, or exotic nature: romance of far away places." When you crave romance, whether you know it or not, it does not mean "sexual" affair, dear ones, it means LOVE AFFAIR, you are craving to experience within you GOD'S LOVE OF LIFE, you crave to feel "ALIVE", ie., warm and intense feelings, eagerness and zeal. WHY? Because you are bored and spiritually unfulfilled with the self-created "limits" of your life. (Limits which the "controlled" media has set you up for in the first place.) You are out of balance and you are seeking to ignite your CREATIVE POTENTIAL WITHIN. ROMANCE is the promise of ADVENTURE and JOY for experiencing THE SPIRIT OF LIFE, OF GOD, within you. You see, ROMANCE is not sexual adventure or a place to go; it is your desire to feel and KNOW GOD within you. You can experience romance through the sharing of devoted and adventurous LOVE of LIFE with your mate. Regardless of what your media "hype" tells you, remember this, your desire for romance is your desire for CHANGE from a limited and spiritually unfulfilling existence, to recognizing and EXPERIENCING your UNLIMITED Creative Spiritual Potential within.

The next time you have a "sexual" urge, look around you, what have you been watching, reading or participating in which created this desire? Men, when you see a physically "beautiful" woman, is your FIRST thought admiration and appreciation of this GIFT of loveliness and do you wonder about the loveliness and beauty of HER SPIRIT? OR, instead, do you first wonder about the pleasure you would receive if you could have "sexual union" with her? And the same holds true for you women who call yourselves "liberated" which usually first means, "sexually" liberated and same equal "rights" as men to have many "casual" sexual encounters.

Recognize that this "sexual urge" is really your UNFULFILLED creative potential screaming to be released from the self-imposed "limit" or boundary of THE physical sexual ACT. Act: "1. To play the part of; impersonate. 2. To serve temporarily or as a substitute. To PRETEND." The sexual act is limiting, substituting and impersonating YOUR CREATIVE AND SPIRITUAL UNFOLDMENT TO KNOW GOD. When you truly understand and recognize this truth, your creative spiritual unfoldment can no longer BE FRUSTRATED AND LIMITED to the repetition of a silly and truly spiritually unfulfilling "sexual act".

Does this mean you are expected, by self and GOD, to STOP all sexual activity NOW? ONLY if it is YOUR choice made with the JOY of TRULY understanding and thus having the freedom of detachment from this "ADDICTION" and no desire to pro create. For most of you, especially adults, "sexual behavior" has now become addictive, so you must treat it as such. Remove as much of the "temptation" from your presence as possible, just as the alcoholic must remove himself from "bars" and must remove the alcohol from his home. Be gentle with self, carefully abide by the list of TEN items above which are "STRICTLY FORBIDDEN" sexual behaviors (including Adultery). If you are single or married and have addiction to the "sexual act", use occasional masturbation as the lessor of the evils "if you must". If you are happily married and both have "enjoyed" your addiction to the monogamous mutual masturbation of your sexual act, both partners will need to become detached for the addiction to be gone.

So be gentle with self and your mate, but be aware and responsible to "consequences" (such as pregnancy) and persistent in your goal (to self) to release and detach from ALL things of Physical Manifestation. Simply RECOGNIZE without punishing self with guilt and shame that this is a transgression against the Creative spirit of life within you. For a time accept that you will have desire because you are "addicted" and many of you understand it as an "extension" of your love. Do not punish self or other, let the "desire" dissolve naturally within each partner. As you begin the unfoldment and adventure of discovering YOUR creative spiritual potential, you will be surprised, because at some point you will find that the "sexual act" is no longer appealing to either of you. You will be detached and no longer have interest in it!


(Candace: and then see what happens when you find other wondrous ways of sharing that grow your spirit within! You might discover you are even great and best friends! and more.)

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Now, to my little promised lecture on Homosexual Sex and other sexual activities. They are against the lows of god because they harm soul and YOUR BODY TEMPLE. Anal sex, between man and woman, is the current leading cause of infertility in women, who are killing their husband's sperm! This is because Sperm IS foreign tissue. The Vagina accepts it, the rectum does NOT. It makes antibodies against sperm.

And ditto in male to male "anal sex." Your partners sperm is false to your body also. that you are male makes no difference. Thus some many who engage in this behavior suffer immune system issues in their bodies and this suppresses the immune system or makes it hyperactive. Lets you catch sexual diseases much easier.

Also, the vagina is TOUGH tissue, the rectum is NOT. It is easily torn by these acts and also by the insertion of various toys. This part applies also to women who engage in rectal sex. With this damaged, torn and swollen tissue comes infections and entry of such into your blood streams.

How about "oral sex" a big no no also, and of this I suffered. I do not like oral sex by I provided it as a service to a man I should have never invited into my bed anyway. I developed a serious small bowel yeast infection from that, and I will never know if it was my yeast, or somebody he cheated with on me. But I suffered two full years of diarrhea from it and developed a terrible case of leaky gut syndrome. Believe me, you ones do not want this and if you have it, you might ponder if this is one possible cause of such. And I dishonored my own god within, because I didn't LIKE it, and should not have done something I so disliked to please this person. This is what is behind Law number ONE to have no have NO OTHER GODS before you.

from Thread: Selections from the Phoenix Journals. (Page 8) and also all the laws of God are here that are needed for earth at this time.

These are also found here with more writings.

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Damn you...thats twice you made me have to scroll forever to get past that primitive bullshit.
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Re: People are NOT born gay.
people who think being gay is a choice, think that way because they themselves have chosen to live straight, even though they have gay desires.
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Some men are gay and some are bi and some are straight. All women are bisexual, at least in college.





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