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Did the 911 jumpers go to Hell for killing themselves?

 
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Did the 911 jumpers go to Hell for killing themselves?
i'm curious as to the stance of hard line christians. i don't think these people who committed suicide went to hell, because i don't believe in hell. but i know fundamentalist christians believe suicide = hell. do these folks get a pass? i'd like to know.
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Re: Did the 911 jumpers go to Hell for killing themselves?
Jump off a tall building and ask em yourself.

How the fuck should WE know eh?
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Re: Did the 911 jumpers go to Hell for killing themselves?
Hell is an imagination of the church to keep people living in fear. Scaring them into obeying the religion.
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Re: Did the 911 jumpers go to Hell for killing themselves?
As much as the bible states that suicide is a fast ticket to hell, I would like to think God would forgive them for the act considering the circumstances. I'm sure any religious people jumping were praying for forgiveness on the way down and God says that as long as you're sincere in asking for his mercy (for any sin) that you'll be forgiven....but what do I know....hf
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Re: Did the 911 jumpers go to Hell for killing themselves?
Jump off a tall building and ask em yourself.

How the fuck should WE know eh?
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"we" who? i was asking for the opinions of the fundamentalist christians who rampage all over this internet pronouncing god's will. "they" definitely know because it is written in their book. i want to know what they have to say.
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Re: Did the 911 jumpers go to Hell for killing themselves?
Jump off a tall building and ask em yourself.

How the fuck should WE know eh?
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"we" who? i was asking for the opinions of the fundamentalist christians who rampage all over this internet pronouncing god's will. "they" definitely know because it is written in their book. i want to know what they have to say.
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Ive read the book.

It does not say anything about suicides leading to automatic hell.
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09/10/2011 08:14 PM
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Re: Did the 911 jumpers go to Hell for killing themselves?
There were no jumpers. They were holograms or remote controlled robots.
Pearl Harbor was an inside job.
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Re: Did the 911 jumpers go to Hell for killing themselves?
Jump off a tall building and ask em yourself.

How the fuck should WE know eh?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1543824


"we" who? i was asking for the opinions of the fundamentalist christians who rampage all over this internet pronouncing god's will. "they" definitely know because it is written in their book. i want to know what they have to say.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1431885


Ive read the book.

It does not say anything about suicides leading to automatic hell.
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i didn't say it did. but many fundamentalists believe it does. where are they? avoiding a tough question. that's where they are.
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Re: Did the 911 jumpers go to Hell for killing themselves?
There were no jumpers. They were holograms or remote controlled robots.
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haha +karma for the laugh....robotsabduct
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Re: Did the 911 jumpers go to Hell for killing themselves?
What a dumb fucking question
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Re: Did the 911 jumpers go to Hell for killing themselves?
no, they hit the ground pretty hard, but not hard enough to penetrate the asphalt.
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Re: Did the 911 jumpers go to Hell for killing themselves?
What a dumb fucking question
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^^^^^^
This, and an understatement.
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Re: Did the 911 jumpers go to Hell for killing themselves?
There were no jumpers. They were holograms or remote controlled robots.
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Way to go JarHead--trash the image of these poor souls on the anniversary of their deaths. You make me proud as puke.
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Re: Did the 911 jumpers go to Hell for killing themselves?
so none of the fundies here want to touch this? they have no opinion yea or nay? weird. they usually hit every thread hard, yet they evade an honest question. i'm not waiting with massive forum artillery to combat them. i just want to know what they think.
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Re: Did the 911 jumpers go to Hell for killing themselves?
There were no jumpers. They were holograms or remote controlled robots.
 Quoting: CrazyJarhead


i thought that but didnt want to say it...
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Re: Did the 911 jumpers go to Hell for killing themselves?
so none of the fundies here want to touch this? they have no opinion yea or nay? weird. they usually hit every thread hard, yet they evade an honest question. i'm not waiting with massive forum artillery to combat them. i just want to know what they think.
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I gave you my opinion on the matter...U mad bro? lol
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Re: Did the 911 jumpers go to Hell for killing themselves?
Hell is an imagination of the church to keep people living in fear. Scaring them into obeying the religion.
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This is such a cliche line, parroted by unbelievers incapable of their own original thought. Really, it doesn't make you guys look smart saying this day in and day out.

To answer the question though, suicide doesn't necessarily lead to Hell. It depends on each person's life and the state of their soul. Someone committing suicide to avoid punishment is different than someone doing it out of their own pain and suffering.
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Re: Did the 911 jumpers go to Hell for killing themselves?
so none of the fundies here want to touch this? they have no opinion yea or nay? weird. they usually hit every thread hard, yet they evade an honest question. i'm not waiting with massive forum artillery to combat them. i just want to know what they think.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1431885


I gave you my opinion on the matter...U mad bro? lol
tounge
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you're not a real fundie. fundies don't believe in what they'd "like to think God would" do. they know from scripture absolutely. stop posing. poseur.
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Re: Did the 911 jumpers go to Hell for killing themselves?
Hell is an imagination of the church to keep people living in fear. Scaring them into obeying the religion.
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devil6 Couldn't have said it better, myself!
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Re: Did the 911 jumpers go to Hell for killing themselves?
Hell is an imagination of the church to keep people living in fear. Scaring them into obeying the religion.
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devil6 Couldn't have said it better, myself!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1316900


yes, this is correct, but we're looking for the true fundie and his/her beliefs which definitely include an everlasting fire of hell for the damned.
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Re: Did the 911 jumpers go to Hell for killing themselves?
Hell is an imagination of the church to keep people living in fear. Scaring them into obeying the religion.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1536759


This is such a cliche line, parroted by unbelievers incapable of their own original thought. Really, it doesn't make you guys look smart saying this day in and day out.

To answer the question though, suicide doesn't necessarily lead to Hell. It depends on each person's life and the state of their soul. Someone committing suicide to avoid punishment is different than someone doing it out of their own pain and suffering.
 Quoting: Generation Doom

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Re: Did the 911 jumpers go to Hell for killing themselves?
so none of the fundies here want to touch this? they have no opinion yea or nay? weird. they usually hit every thread hard, yet they evade an honest question. i'm not waiting with massive forum artillery to combat them. i just want to know what they think.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1431885


I gave you my opinion on the matter...U mad bro? lol
tounge
 Quoting: Djinn


you're not a real fundie. fundies don't believe in what they'd "like to think God would" do. they know from scripture absolutely. stop posing. poseur.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1431885


I may not be a hardcore bible thumper but I do know the bible and I do know what my beliefs are. Just because I don't go around this forum shoving it down other peoples throats doesn't mean I don't know anything. I think you're confusing "fundies" with the cult like lunatics that frequent this place. You asked what people thought on the subject and I gave you a simple answer...just what you asked for.
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so none of the fundies here want to touch this? they have no opinion yea or nay? weird.
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Isn't it just ;-)
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Re: Did the 911 jumpers go to Hell for killing themselves?
Hell is an imagination of the church to keep people living in fear. Scaring them into obeying the religion.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1536759


devil6 Couldn't have said it better, myself!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1316900


yes, this is correct, but we're looking for the true fundie and his/her beliefs which definitely include an everlasting fire of hell for the damned.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1431885


Mat 13:39 "The enemy who sowed them is the devil, the harvest is the end of the age, and the reapers are the angels.


Mat 13:40 "Therefore as the tares are gathered and burned in the fire, so it will be at the end of this age.


Mat 13:41 "The Son of Man will send out His angels, and they will gather out of His kingdom all things that offend, and those who practice lawlessness,


Mat 13:42 "and will cast them into the furnace of fire. There will be wailing and gnashing of teeth.


Mat 13:43 "Then the righteous will shine forth as the sun in the kingdom of their Father. He who has ears to hear, let him hear!
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Re: Did the 911 jumpers go to Hell for killing themselves?
Thou shalt not murder....suicide is self murder.

Being forced to jump is not suicide.

Only God is a righteous Judge...the only one who knows the circumstances to any death.

As Christians we can not rightly say who goes to Heaven and who goes to hell.

And if you do try to judge such metters then you are an immature Christian who lacks understanding.
Galatians 2:20 I have been crucified with Christ, it is no longer I that live, but Christ now lives in me and the life I live in the flesh, I live by faith in the Son of God, who loved me and gave Himself for me.
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Re: Did the 911 jumpers go to Hell for killing themselves?
so none of the fundies here want to touch this? they have no opinion yea or nay? weird. they usually hit every thread hard, yet they evade an honest question. i'm not waiting with massive forum artillery to combat them. i just want to know what they think.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1431885


I gave you my opinion on the matter...U mad bro? lol
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 Quoting: Djinn


you're not a real fundie. fundies don't believe in what they'd "like to think God would" do. they know from scripture absolutely. stop posing. poseur.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1431885


I may not be a hardcore bible thumper but I do know the bible and I do know what my beliefs are. Just because I don't go around this forum shoving it down other peoples throats doesn't mean I don't know anything. I think you're confusing "fundies" with the cult like lunatics that frequent this place. You asked what people thought on the subject and I gave you a simple answer...just what you asked for.
loser
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no dude. you're just not a christian fundamentalist. i'm not saying you don't know anything. it's not your opinion i'm looking for.
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Re: Did the 911 jumpers go to Hell for killing themselves?
NO...avoiding uninevitable death...god would understand this
just don't give a ......
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Re: Did the 911 jumpers go to Hell for killing themselves?
Thou shalt not murder....suicide is self murder.

Being forced to jump is not suicide.

Only God is a righteous Judge...the only one who knows the circumstances to any death.

As Christians we can not rightly say who goes to Heaven and who goes to hell.

And if you do try to judge such metters then you are an immature Christian who lacks understanding.
 Quoting: daretospeak


they were not forced to jump. jump or not they would have probably died. they could have kneeled down in prayer and let god's plan unfold.
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Re: Did the 911 jumpers go to Hell for killing themselves?
Hell is an imagination of the church to keep people living in fear. Scaring them into obeying the religion.
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no ... hell is in slovenia living eternity with assholes kissing the ground with their arses up waiting 4 a shag
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Re: Did the 911 jumpers go to Hell for killing themselves?
Likw another poster said, the Bible doesn't say anywhere that suicide =hell. The Catholic church teaches that and the fact thatis is extrabiblical is par for the course with most of their teachings.

There is only one thing that sends someone to hell, that is rejecting jesus Christ as one's Lord and Savior.

Suicide is an act of desperation. It is also akin to "thou shalt not murder" it is a sin, but not an unforgiveable sin.

The ones that jumped we either saved before or during their ordel or else they weren't saved. That is in God's realm to sort that out.

That said I am sorry about all that died on that day.
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Re: Did the 911 jumpers go to Hell for killing themselves?
No they chose their manner of death they had already been delivered against their will.....they did not deliver death upon themselves the murdering attackers did ..they only chose how to die to the death forced upon them........judge not any human being for being a human being it was created to be....it bleeds and hurts...panics like an elk being stalked perused hunted...like a fox in a steel trap with no way out .....panic is not normal mentality it is brought on by hysteria...and nothing in this is ever to be looked upon with anything other than mercy be merciful.....for Gods sake it could be you some day some how it could be you....be merciful to your self by being merciful to those who have already received what we having no idea may be next to receive the same thing..


And the suicide issue is ridiculous...to even try and judge as it was with intention of reasoned mind...it is unreasonable to afflict yourself to death...it is going totally against your own instilled survival instincts that naturally instilled to naturally push us and well up in us to try and flight or fight our way ..away from harm and death ....not go running in glee to leap into it voluntarily ..

Suicide as a maneuver to murder is an act..a motive that is for bringing others death by your murdering actions upon them...it makes no difference if you had to go down with them to murder them .....murder was your motive..and intent-fully plotted and willfully carried out Sin...hideous Sin..Murder.

suicide of ones self with out murdering as the motive....is

Not a reasonable ...unsound ..unbalanced state of mind...and that could be pure chemical imbalance that the man its self is so in a state of mind so unrealistic in his perception he can not even tell what is rational from what is not rational..

This is a case even in geriatric patients with organic brain diseases dementia or just plain old sodium.. potassium...and other malfunctions of their metabolism....

Leave the people alone...dead ones and the living ones...if you can not have mercy for them leave them alone...


They did not jump out a window to kill themselves just to be able to kill you and maybe 1000 more living humans....they did not elect to die nor willfully seek it or request it..they did not want to die...they were not murdering no one....leave them alone..

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