Did Jesus really exist?

no, there never was any evidence for that
more religious stories

zetgeist 1 puts in nicely
and its not been debunked, you cant debunk the constellations

Great question OP. If you've read any of my posts here you'd say this guys is a die hard God-boy, which I am unashamedly. But if you'd met me 4 years ago, I was the biggest atheist on the planet (I'm 38). What changed it for me was a series of events that proved to me that the supernatural is real. Once you have that epiphany, everything you thought before has to be questioned.

Among what I've learnt in that time is this - God calls his people by faith. Sure He can give you some encouragement and what I call 'markers' along the way, but truth is He is not trying to prove His existence to you right now (or He would do it and nothing could stop Him). He might give people the 'tap on the shoulder', but ultimately He's looking for people who want to find Him.

Not a scientific answer as such, but this is how I look at it now. I saw a vid that was posted somewhere here recently that debunked the theory of evolution brilliantly. There is evidence, but you have to want to look to find it.

Matthew 7:7 Ask, and it shall be given you; seek, and ye shall find; knock, and it shall be opened unto you:

It doesn't say 'play X-Box and you shall find'. Good luck friend

Jesus was a dude that had no fear. Had some real fucking ideas and some bastards say fuck this dude he speaks too much real shit. Lets kill the guy. So Jesus has no Fear okay.
Lets just say Jesus was just an average guy like us,but he had no FEAR he pretty much can roam the land like he is the shit. Except he is like ya know I need to tell people not to FEAR shit. Perhaps he smoked some good shit saw something and fell in LOVE with the world an wanted to help it. Except they called him crazy and delusional.

When they stuck him on that so called cross he was in a meditative mind stay,he had no fear. He thus rose from the state and continued on to spread the message of LOVE. The book? Jesus was just chilling tell people some real shit,some people listed and some people twisted it.

Jesus/God they do exist
For we talk about them
The concept
Of the Book
Tells you from the beginning to end
Birth Upon the earth
Growth of the Tree of your own knowledge
Do not eat the SIN ful apple of emptiness
We not need fight each other for religious views
The mind is the god we all should seek
The peace state the OH PLEASE see it
The words
The sound
Them earthshake rumbling the ground
No reason to FEAR
Do not get caught up with it like a DEER in the lights
Open please
For the LOVE of yourself
The love of Humans
Just move the earth
With your own
Mind Shake
Walk with a Jesus Mind
FEAR erase
LOVE it's a state,a place,a heaven
No dream
REAL
REALITY
The gravity pulling you down
Doesn't want you to evolve into a higher state
Do not let them mind rape you
Taste No FEAR
No WHINE
Just peace of FUCKING MIND

I had to jump in and let the OP know that not all Australians are religious nutjobs. The two on this thread sound like born-again Christians. Oh how I can't stand born-agains. If the whole thing is really so wonderful, why haven't you always believed it??? Fools.

I've learnt some interesting stuff here, cheers. I've always thought that a person called Jesus probably did exist, but he was some sort of confidence trickster. Seriously, why have humans always needed to worship something? Are some of us so feeble minded that we are unable to form our own opinions and need to be told what to think?

Religion = mind control for the masses. That goes for all religions, nothing special about christianity.

1) Is that your capacity for logical deduction? FAIL!

2) Did the Gospel of Christ focus on "worshiping" Christ? Did Christ make everyone kiss his feet? NO! You know nothing of Christ's message.

This thread has clearly shown there is proof of Christ outside of the NT.

If Christ lived, he also died on the Cross, and was resurrected.

i actually believe there might be some truth in the above based on my research...if you read between the lines of the canonical gospels....and if you research the group at Qumran, the historical pieces start coming together.

yes.

The historian Josephus mentions Jesus the cristos

Thanks for your reply OP.


But, to imply that 'religious' people don't care for the truth seems to be a stretch.

Humble opinion: There is some incredible wisdom with the words attributed to Jesus.

Wouldn't you at least agree with that?

Is there some harm caused to you by following His teaching?





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It is my considered belief that Jesus of the first century who is depicted in the gospels did not actually exist, but that the story in the gospels is a composite god/savior who was put together by the Romans in the 4th century to be the man-god-savior-central figure of the new Universal (Catholic) religion. There is some historical evidence that a Hebrew/Jewish prophet did exist in the 100 BCE era, and he could be part of the composite we call Jesus.
But it was the Romans under Emperor Constantine who actually created Jesus and forced him to be worshipped world-wide. No surprise the religion is so widespread today. Any religion would if it was forced on people by a powerful empire such as Rome and its successor the Roman Catholic Church.

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The Historical Evidence for Jesus
by G.A. Wells

In this thoroughly researched study, G.A. Wells has squarely faced the question of whether a man named Jesus lived, preached, healed, and died in Palestine during the early years of the first century of the Christian era - or indeed, at any time.

Building on the biblical studies of Christian theologians, Dr. Wells soberly demonstrates that we have no reliable eyewitnesses to the events depicted in the New Testament. He publicizes a fact known to theological scholars but little-known in the average Christian congregation: that the order of books of the New Testament is not an accurate chronological arrangement. Indeed, Paul, who never saw Jesus, wrote his epistles to early Christian congregations before the Gospels of Matthew, Mark, and John were written.

It may come as a great surprise to Christians and other monotheists, to agnostics, atheists, and humanists alike, that "the earliest references to the historical Jesus are so vague that it is not necessary to hold that he ever existed; the rise of Christianity can, from the undoubtedly historical antecedents, be explained quite well without him; and reasons can be given to show why, from about A.D. 80 or 90, Christians began to suppose that he had lived in Palestine about fifty years earlier."

[link to www.blavatskyarchives.com]